Yes rodemy, the condition hes claiming is either ***** or fake
This is a bad reason for someone to be scum.
Rod: Jack, then you, then sloth/dbs if I had choices of those. In that order. I guess you would be second best to Jack since I wouldn't be able to choose him
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Jack probably is just the correct lynch here, I think on a macro level a lot of his thoughts can be wolfy
I think on a micro-level there are certain things that are weird from wolf!Jack
the only thing really keeping this alive is the Sloth/Jack probably being wolf/wolf world
given I'd rather be on a top train then off vote: Jackrito L1
given this site, someone will unvote, and then we continue to wait
its w/e at this point, I just want to get into night 3 with hopefully a mafia flip
Ok I got what I wanted. That was me trying an reaction test as my final act as town.
Not something I normally do but annoyed with how this game went so wanted to try something. Properly shoukd of waited longer but don't want to waste peoples time in a fake world for too long
Yes rodemy, the condition hes claiming is either ***** or fake
This is a bad reason for someone to be scum.
Rod: Jack, then you, then sloth/dbs if I had choices of those. In that order. I guess you would be second best to Jack since I wouldn't be able to choose him
that isn’t what I asked.
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Ok I got what I wanted. That was me trying an reaction test as my final act as town.
Not something I normally do but annoyed with how this game went so wanted to try something. Properly shoukd of waited longer but don't want to waste peoples time in a fake world for too long
******* ... what..
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Ok I got what I wanted. That was me trying an reaction test as my final act as town.
Not something I normally do but annoyed with how this game went so wanted to try something. Properly shoukd of waited longer but don't want to waste peoples time in a fake world for too long
Your final act should be what you got out of your reaction test. The mod hasn't even announced twilight yet.
Yes rodemy, the condition hes claiming is either ***** or fake
This is a bad reason for someone to be scum.
Rod: Jack, then you, then sloth/dbs if I had choices of those. In that order. I guess you would be second best to Jack since I wouldn't be able to choose him
that isn’t what I asked.
I answered your question. I just gave you more than you asked for.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Within a local day they were standing on some worryingly open webbing high over more giant orange building-trees, at the lofty seam between two vast bubbles, in the half-kilometre-long shadow of a sleekly bulbous spaceship nestling in the open air of the valley formed by the two giant blisters.
They were greeted by a Morthanveld who introduced herself as Liaison Officer Chilgitheri.
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They were carried for nearly thirty days on the “Fasilyce, Upon Waking”. It was a less pleasant journey than that on the Nariscene ship; they had to don suits to investigate the vast majority of the mostly water-filled ship, their quarters were smaller and, worst of all, the ship kept increasing its gravity field, to prepare them for wherever it was they were going. The Morthanveld, being aquatic, seemed rather to scorn gravity, but were gradually ramping up the apparent effect of that force felt on the ship to acclimatise their human guests. They were the only non-Morthanveld aboard and, as Holse said, they should have felt flattered to be so indulged, but it was hard to feel much gratitude when your feet and back and almost everything else ached so much.
Yes rodemy, the condition hes claiming is either ***** or fake
This is a bad reason for someone to be scum.
Rod: Jack, then you, then sloth/dbs if I had choices of those. In that order. I guess you would be second best to Jack since I wouldn't be able to choose him
that isn’t what I asked.
I answered your question. I just gave you more than you asked for.
I thought you could only kill people with votes?
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Hey I told you all I was town and gave you reasons why. I put a fair amount of work into this game. I just wanted to try something so calm down with the hate we would have had nothing to talk about anyway. Its not like you all would believe me if I just said I was town it did not work in day so why would it in twlight. I wanted to see if any of the reactions felt unnatural because I find scum struggle with curveballs and adapting to them. Nobody really stood out though I still think Vaimes is scum though. Really confused by KJ this game as well.
Had assignments to do and left forum stuff on the backburner until today. Looks like I'm too late?
I don't see why Jack was on the table, unless it was because of playing martyr? Not really following Jack's thought process, but it doesn't look scum-indicative either. NAI at best.
Looks like nobody had questions to ask me. Was my slot resolved already? I did say people could ask me questions.
Killjoy is a townlean to me, for the record. Last seems to be a townlean too. Vaguely remember Rodemy was questionable, but that could be because of a different playstyle (at least from my memory).
Nice profile picture by the way @Last
Please go into detail about these townleans because KJ is far from one. Your slot is also far from clear the only thing that cleared you was me being scum but sadly for you I am town. Or good for you if scum I guess.
I could try and pretend I'm town still but no point. Having 2 scum games at once on 2 new sites. Was a bit too much for me mentally
. Really annoyed at how much my scum game has fell.
Oh wow, so you're scum? I guess town is doing fine without me.
Actually this is the sort of reaction I would expect from scum more then town to what I did. But It's Phraze so who the hell knows if this means anything.
I have never seen a game say so consistently hammers early every day.
Is it 'cause the Days are so long? I don't get it.
Ugh. Wtf Jack.
This is embarrassing for me because right up till he admitted it I was townreading him and was furious at Rod for not letting me say something before Hammer, it's not like we were short on time...and apparently we didn't even save any time at all because twilight was extended to be longer?
The only time I waffled was when he gave his case on me that he VERY OBVIOUSLY did not believe in (yet Tom described as "By quantity and content of pushes i would guess hes scumreading sloth way harder than hes scumreading umami" in a response that makes no sense regardless of Jack's flip.)
Needless to say, while I want #2958 to be true 'cause it'll be super satisfying (0-2 on those wrong reads, tom), it feels like it's just scum trolling. Unless he comes back with something substantial - but even then I'll disregard it till the actual flip.
Clearly I can't read Jack, also did not expect him to just give up here
Wisp reaction also bothers me since he clearly thought I was scum before this. he sounds really surprised by me admitting it here though. I also know he would not expect me to do something like this so was interested in his reaction the most.
I waffled on you pretty hard, all this did was open up anyone to vote you, it was bad play, and whether you would or wouldn't do this, doesn't really matter to me, there is absolutely no reason for me to not believe that wasn't real
I waffled on you pretty hard, all this did was open up anyone to vote you, it was bad play, and whether you would or wouldn't do this, doesn't really matter to me, there is absolutely no reason for me to not believe that wasn't real
What are you talking about here, I was already hammered so why does it matter if I opened myself up to be voted. Well the scum team would know it was not real and would have a weird reaction to it or just try to force an over the top happy reaction. So your last point is not really true.
I didn't even know u were hammered, I was wondering what people were waiting for at this point, Ive been at work all day, when I made that post, I did not know u were hammered
I didn't even know u were hammered, I was wondering what people were waiting for at this point, Ive been at work all day, when I made that post, I did not know u were hammered
Jack probably is just the correct lynch here, I think on a macro level a lot of his thoughts can be wolfy
I think on a micro-level there are certain things that are weird from wolf!Jack
the only thing really keeping this alive is the Sloth/Jack probably being wolf/wolf world
given I'd rather be on a top train then off vote: Jackrito L1
given this site, someone will unvote, and then we continue to wait
its w/e at this point, I just want to get into night 3 with hopefully a mafia flip
man I haven't seen or used these kind posts in forever
My point still stands, this site always wants to avoid a no Lynch, and whenever someone gets to L1 someone will just unvote, it's just so frustrating
I didn't even know u were hammered, I was wondering what people were waiting for at this point, Ive been at work all day, when I made that post, I did not know u were hammered
@killjoy
do you only get to kill in actual trains?
like in this situation, if we didnt lynch Jack, you would have to kill Vaimes?
this post 9 hours ago shortly after I hammered makes me think that first post is a lie
Huh. My initial gut reaction was right. Good catch, Rod.
I suppose in a world where Last is scum, I have to take a step back from KJ being scum. Umami...probably not scum in that world, given the situation with Tubba and Last, unless 3 of the scum thought it'd be fun to do some weird ass theater early game.
Actually, is there even a point to further speculation until we have the flip?
Yeah, don't think so.
I'll be around to answer basic questions but for the most part I'm just going to wait for the flip.
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**** it, I've thought Jack was town literally all game, and his progression since his claimed gambit has strengthened that belief. If the flip makes me wrong/gullible/stupid, well, I'm still hot.
So. In a world where Jack flips town, and assuming no deep wolves in the conf-PRs:
Last is outed scum, regardless of Jack's flip. ...also if anyone will want to make an argument why scum!Jack screws over his scummate like this, all ears.
Umami is a POE light-town read based on her debacle with Tubba/Last, cause...all 3 scum doing that seems super unlikely? I look forward to one day correctly scumreading Umami.
Rodemy is Light-town because of his role outing last. Could be bus but why now? Perhaps cause someone else might have noticed and he figured he'd capitalize in the potential townclear? Possible. Unlikely, though, doesn't sound like Rodemy. I almost put him as hard-town but these musings stopped me. I'm still not voting him any time soon, since I was already townreading him anyway.
Killjoy...I know I said earlier that KJ might not be scum if Last is, but...I don't remember why that is. It...may just have been the Tubba thing? I think KJ still can't be scum with Grape, but I'll have to deep dive again to see if there's an actual reason for being unaligned with Last, or if it was just an extension of the Tubba thing. Until then, KJ remains heavily scummy on his own, so he stays in the black. Anyone wanna chip with their opinion on them?
Leaving Vaimes and Phraze. One I'm scumreading, one I have literally no opinion on. We lynch these two (and Killjoy, possibly before either, or before Phraze).
I could try and pretend I'm town still but no point. Having 2 scum games at once on 2 new sites. Was a bit too much for me mentally
. Really annoyed at how much my scum game has fell.
Oh wow, so you're scum? I guess town is doing fine without me.
Actually this is the sort of reaction I would expect from scum more then town to what I did. But It's Phraze so who the hell knows if this means anything.
Can you talk more about this before Twilight ends?
Because of my post just now, it's obviously highly relevant info while you can still give it.
It upsets me. :[
Rod: Jack, then you, then sloth/dbs if I had choices of those. In that order. I guess you would be second best to Jack since I wouldn't be able to choose him
Not something I normally do but annoyed with how this game went so wanted to try something. Properly shoukd of waited longer but don't want to waste peoples time in a fake world for too long
that isn’t what I asked.
******* ... what..
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Killjoy - 1 (Slothful)
Vaimes - 1 (Jackrito)
Not Voting - 3 (DawningBlueSky, Gentleman Johnny, Killjoy)
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I thought you could only kill people with votes?
If this is real, it will be exactly as effective as when but did it in horsemen (that is to say not at all). And if it’s fake it’s dumb.
Please go into detail about these townleans because KJ is far from one. Your slot is also far from clear the only thing that cleared you was me being scum but sadly for you I am town. Or good for you if scum I guess.
Actually this is the sort of reaction I would expect from scum more then town to what I did. But It's Phraze so who the hell knows if this means anything.
Is it 'cause the Days are so long? I don't get it.
Ugh. Wtf Jack.
This is embarrassing for me because right up till he admitted it I was townreading him and was furious at Rod for not letting me say something before Hammer, it's not like we were short on time...and apparently we didn't even save any time at all because twilight was extended to be longer?
The only time I waffled was when he gave his case on me that he VERY OBVIOUSLY did not believe in (yet Tom described as "By quantity and content of pushes i would guess hes scumreading sloth way harder than hes scumreading umami" in a response that makes no sense regardless of Jack's flip.)
Needless to say, while I want #2958 to be true 'cause it'll be super satisfying (0-2 on those wrong reads, tom), it feels like it's just scum trolling. Unless he comes back with something substantial - but even then I'll disregard it till the actual flip.
Does this mean I'm scum now, @Last?
Wisp reaction also bothers me since he clearly thought I was scum before this. he sounds really surprised by me admitting it here though. I also know he would not expect me to do something like this so was interested in his reaction the most.
I don't plan on posting anymore in twilight unless stuff comes up
No idea, if Jack flips town I was more of a believer of V/V wagons, so we will see
What are you talking about here, I was already hammered so why does it matter if I opened myself up to be voted. Well the scum team would know it was not real and would have a weird reaction to it or just try to force an over the top happy reaction. So your last point is not really true.
Yeah which is why it was a test, just wanted to try something different and see what happens.
this post 9 hours ago shortly after I hammered makes me think that first post is a lie
My point still stands, this site always wants to avoid a no Lynch, and whenever someone gets to L1 someone will just unvote, it's just so frustrating
I just assumed he was giving up because he wasn't going to get out of this
I suppose in a world where Last is scum, I have to take a step back from KJ being scum. Umami...probably not scum in that world, given the situation with Tubba and Last, unless 3 of the scum thought it'd be fun to do some weird ass theater early game.
Actually, is there even a point to further speculation until we have the flip?
Yeah, don't think so.
I'll be around to answer basic questions but for the most part I'm just going to wait for the flip.
Woops
/shrug
Sorry
...and probably wrong on KJ? Thoughts for later.
@vaimes: ...You serious right now?
Yeah have fun in it, I may be wrong on you but still fine with my read tbh based off everything.
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Umami
Rodemy
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Gentleman Johnny
shadowlancerx
ZeDorkSlipeur
tomsloger
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Axelrod
Rhand
TubbaFett
Lastwhisper
**** it, I've thought Jack was town literally all game, and his progression since his claimed gambit has strengthened that belief. If the flip makes me wrong/gullible/stupid, well, I'm still hot.
So. In a world where Jack flips town, and assuming no deep wolves in the conf-PRs:
Because of my post just now, it's obviously highly relevant info while you can still give it.