What does being his cellmate have to do with his alignment?
Last few posts, every time I saw a vaimes post, it just felt like he was talking but nothing relevent was being said. I don't remember being super impressed with him either on my last few skims either.
It makes knowledge of his alignment more valuable to me because of the game mechanics?
I’ll post more later just keeping up with reading.
I definitely didn’t remember KCCs vote was RVS. I’m also feeling less confident KCC is town.
Tom is either really good at reads or scum going for points because “he knew” I’m town. I’m going with town and really good.
Jack wanting to Lynch Flarg for info was bad. I was even kind of second guessing going in on my last post but I figured it was already done and totally valid. Still is. My whole point was that hedging and lack of commitment isn’t necessarily and indicator of alignment. I also wanted to see how players responded. I still think he could be scum but less so now.
Also feeling better about Last whisper and Laser Letters given recent posts. I prefer the walls occasionally.
Grape seemed to drop Jack kinda fast, felt he was going harder than I was. I’m less confident in Grape now.
I think I should barn Tom on Vaimes because I’ve consistently liked his posts the most. Then later actually read Vaimes to see if it’s a good bet to run up. But with players like sloth hung up on me it might be worth running myself up just to get it over with.
But yes, now the thread is getting juicy.
I actually can't believe how much you have backtracked on this and it bothers me. This looks like you just gave into peer pressure then actual belief, which is not normal for town to do.
Also stop flipping on reads for no reason explain to me how you did not know KCC was a RVS vote when it was their first post, also what about them was town, and what changed. I need to understand the logic here. Since the same flip happened with Grape.
Post about Tom knowing you are town bothers me because it just comes across as a way to try and tell people you are town indirectly rather then add anything. I know I also did this in regards to KCC but I'a hypocrite like I said.
I'm started to get annoyed with this Flarge info thing as well, since it lasted a total of 20 mins and I never even went anywhere with it, how much people bring it up makes it seem like I voted him and still want him dead. I explained why I said what I did and stand by it even if wrong.
Also what makes me less scum and why did Wisp and lazer go up as well don't throw at blank statements with no reasons. Also you are doing same thing you want to scumread grape on.
Finally surely you should have own reasons to vote Vaimes instead of following Tom and what posts did you like by Tom in the first place, I'm also not letting last part which is a slight ATE pass about being run up by sloth so.
Vote : Zionite
You are being even more hedgey then me in this post, and backtracking far too much.
Jacks vote puts Zion at 4 when id been working pretty hard to dismantle the wagon and he didnt engage with that at all. Comes in response to a 3rd vaimes vote (me/gj/zion)
Hm. Maybe Flarg is a wolf vig. I don't know, but 15 players is an odd number for only 3 wolves unless they have some power. 15 is also a rough game for 4 wolves.
You know, I don’t think last is genuine in his frustration. He could have jumped to Zion at any point after Tom and Zion jumped off me, but he didn’t.
Curious.
It could be a vaimes Last GJ team. And I would Be not surprised tbh.
Derp clear denied.
Vote Rodemy
rod derping is always NAI
Whst you think of vaimes?
Would have came in on him if Flarg made an intelligent shot. I don't know how he shoots Zionite over Rodemy. Exact same situation except Zionite actually posts content and analysis.
Hm. Maybe Flarg is a wolf vig. I don't know, but 15 players is an odd number for only 3 wolves unless they have some power. 15 is also a rough game for 4 wolves.
think just based on claim, 15 players, and 4 known town PRs. and trying to keep my mind blank on flargs play
Im at:
3 scum + SKflarg
3 scum with wolfvigflarg
4 scum with townvigflarg
Like, this isn't even Rod missing that, it's that he legitimately doesn't care who the other mason is. When you see town mason, you mostly expect two people, who know each other as town. It makes no sense for the other one (in this case, two if the reveal didn't spoil it).
It's that Rod doesn't give a *****, or have any curiosity about who gets eliminated from his own PoE. For me, Tubba being cleared is huge. LW was great for my sanity. What if one of the flips was another relevant PR? What if it was a cop, and you could look at their posting history to see who if any they were softing.
That's what bothers me about his missing that post, not the fact that he actually missed it. For instance, if he asked the other mason to claim, it would have still been a facepalm for him not reading, but at least it would have meant he was thinking about solving.
Your point about rod is that he could clearly miss that as town. I get that. I explained why his mindset doesn't reflect even a remote curiosity to solve.
I don't know what's richer, Rod doing whatever it takes to survive despite barely reading the game, or him trying to act like he can casually drop the scumteam and yeah dude, I wouldn't be surprised at all if I was 100% correct.
KJ (8): Tubba, Vaimes, Tom, GJ, Grape, Zion, Rhand, KCCodemy Zion (3): sloth, Jack, YWF grape (1): KJ
Not Voting (3): ZDS, Last, Flarg
Rod (6): Last, Vaimes, YWF, Zion, GJ, Jack Zion (4): Tubba, ZDS, Flarg, Rhand
Rhand (2): tom, rod
Tom (1): Sloth
Probably just no zds in this world. Bussing happens but like
Yeah
(Actually ive been eliminating zds from most worlds. Noted)
I guess vaimes could have been bussing kccslot?
He could be with rhand or flarg (partner or SK?) but both feels excessive. Flarg awkward around him. Really its all iffy out of that cell. Idk.
A cell being two wolves + SK seems OP...
3 wolves maybe in a chosen setup but OP says random and
Moving on
Just talked about jacks Zion vote. Bit of a vaimes chainsaw for sure.
Vaimes and gj could be distancing that went nowhere?
Like, this isn't even Rod missing that, it's that he legitimately doesn't care who the other mason is. When you see town mason, you mostly expect two people, who know each other as town. It makes no sense for the other one (in this case, two if the reveal didn't spoil it).
It's that Rod doesn't give a *****, or have any curiosity about who gets eliminated from his own PoE. For me, Tubba being cleared is huge. LW was great for my sanity. What if one of the flips was another relevant PR? What if it was a cop, and you could look at their posting history to see who if any they were softing.
That's what bothers me about his missing that post, not the fact that he actually missed it. For instance, if he asked the other mason to claim, it would have still been a facepalm for him not reading, but at least it would have meant he was thinking about solving.
Lynch this.
Your representation of me is wrong though. Stop trying to discredit me.
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Your representation of me is wrong though. Stop trying to discredit me.
Like 90% of your gameplay has been Im Not wrONg YoU aRe!!!
You're not reading the game....someone so much as breaths in your direction and they're scumlocked...no one has to discredit you when you just keep being wrong.
Your point about rod is that he could clearly miss that as town. I get that. I explained why his mindset doesn't reflect even a remote curiosity to solve.
Like, he clearly knew Zionite died.
i mean maybe but like
Occams is he just didnt open spoilers and maybe thats cuz he already knew both were town but like whatever man.
Theres lots of reasons to scumread his slot. Most of them from before he replaced into it but he certainly has done nothing to help.
This doesnt seem like a thing that should change hearts and minds to me.
Do you not want to talk about vaimes?
Your representation of me is wrong though. Stop trying to discredit me.
Like 90% of your gameplay has been Im Not wrONg YoU aRe!!!
You're not reading the game....someone so much as breaths in your direction and they're scumlocked...no one has to discredit you when you just keep being wrong.
Bye Felcia.
because this slot has been the target since d2. And I know it’s alignment. Easy mislynch. KCC did a ***** job (no offense) and I literally replaced into fire.
If I was scum I’d push this slot HARD.
so yeah, people pushing me hard are my top scumspects.
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I think ywf over last tbh but last could be with that eod yesterDay.
Stop discrediting me.
How are you still doing this when multiple people have told you to read the flips for a reason. Also just because someone could be wrong on you does not make them scum. I don't understand how you can be so one track minded.
The only reason I can see this being real is if he just assumes that Sloth flipped BP, but even that is a stretch and he should of checked by now anyway.
How are you still doing this when multiple people have told you to read the flips for a reason. Also just because someone could be wrong on you does not make them scum. I don't understand how you can be so one track minded.
It's not even just that Jack. I'm supposedly one of his scum reads....ergo you'd think he'd be reading things I post to actually discredit them beyond "she's pressuring me kill her"....I already addressed the flips townfirming C to you and he somehow missed that too. There's no spoiler in my post. It's just right there.
The only reason I can see this being real is if he just assumes that Sloth flipped BP, but even that is a stretch and he should of checked by now anyway.
Assuming he flipped BP isn't even a reasonto make this real. A town player who assumes the BP just died would without question check cause it means scum has a way to get around BP. That's info we 10000% need to consider when we're looking for scum.
How are you still doing this when multiple people have told you to read the flips for a reason. Also just because someone could be wrong on you does not make them scum. I don't understand how you can be so one track minded.
It's not even just that Jack. I'm supposedly one of his scum reads....ergo you'd think he'd be reading things I post to actually discredit them beyond "she's pressuring me kill her"....I already addressed the flips townfirming C to you and he somehow missed that too. There's no spoiler in my post. It's just right there.
Yeah that is true, he has being like this all all game though including in the cell chat just stuck in his own world of injustice and everything around him is wrong and he is being framed by everyone. I don't even think he bothers to read what others say anymore.
what the hell, dont post unless you have caught up, this is common, don't just in here with your conspiracy theories. You need to know current game state to comment on it
The only reason I can see this being real is if he just assumes that Sloth flipped BP, but even that is a stretch and he should of checked by now anyway.
Assuming he flipped BP isn't even a reasonto make this real. A town player who assumes the BP just died would without question check cause it means scum has a way to get around BP. That's info we 10000% need to consider when we're looking for scum.
Wait are bullet proof just always death proof here, I assumed it was one shot only and he claimed yesterday he got shot. That was why they was only one death, unless I missed something here. I mean that was clearly false off his claim but my understanding yesterday was that he said that he got shot..
what the hell, dont post unless you have caught up, this is common, don't just in here with your conspiracy theories. You need to know current game state to comment on it
I do. But multiple people are posting at once. Your frustration is unneeded.
I know sloth claimed bp. And I was questionOmg why he told his cell n1. So yeah, back the **** off me right now and solve the game.
it’s frustrating when I am still the focus of a lynch. I am trying not to Die and solve. Truth be told flarg probably kills me toNight. Scum won’t stop him. They haven’t stopped him at all. They knew the. Wagons were all town. So they have nothing to worry about with him. But if we mislynch today we are ****ed.
Gj, vaimes, ywf. Kill
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This is my first game on this site. I've seen BP as a one shot ability and I've seen it as just one through the game. Again...something a towns person would CHECK to confirm on flip because it gives us info on the scum team. The only people that info doesn't matter to is the scum team.
I'm 99% sure he addressed it at some point Tom. I could be wrong ad I'll go back and look but I feel like he's definitely been told
im over it
At a certain point its willful ignorance regardless
I concede he has no drive to (mechanically) solve
Not really that much solving behaviorally either
Could be scum steering into reactionary indignant ignorance
Could be town... prolly doing about the same but like meh
Feel a little better about vaimes flipping scum aorn, and still want to talk about rod/rhand unalignment, and possible gj unalignment with both
Vaguely think rod is too soft a target with only you and kind of me/sloth actually taking a stance against kcc and everyone else just voting rod because hes useless
what the hell, dont post unless you have caught up, this is common, don't just in here with your conspiracy theories. You need to know current game state to comment on it
I do. But multiple people are posting at once. Your frustration is unneeded.
I know sloth claimed bp. And I was questionOmg why he told his cell n1. So yeah, back the **** off me right now and solve the game.
it’s frustrating when I am still the focus of a lynch. I am trying not to Die and solve. Truth be told flarg probably kills me toNight. Scum won’t stop him. They haven’t stopped him at all. They knew the. Wagons were all town. So they have nothing to worry about with him. But if we mislynch today we are ****ed.
Gj, vaimes, ywf. Kill
frustration is reasonable when multiple people told you to look at flips and you didnt even wonder what we were talking about
You also had no votes before you started posting...
Lynch me. If you think I can replace into a game with 30+ pages near deadline and try and figure this ***** out, you gravely overestimate me.
Lose the ******* game and never see me again. This is not the mtg I grew up with and it’s sad that all this frustration and anger is being massively shown.
It’s a ******* game guys. Calm down.
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Lynch me. If you think I can replace into a game with 30+ pages near deadline and try and figure this ***** out, you gravely overestimate me.
Lose the ******* game and never see me again. This is not the mtg I grew up with and it’s sad that all this frustration and anger is being massively shown.
It’s a ******* game guys. Calm down.
my dude, you pushed confirmed town and got 2 votes for it and annoyed people.
Now youve read the flip, move on dont quit. You telling me you wouldnt be annoyed by someone doing that?
also I am town
also clearly you arent reading, and just blowing smoke
Jacks vote puts Zion at 4 when id been working pretty hard to dismantle the wagon and he didnt engage with that at all. Comes in response to a 3rd vaimes vote (me/gj/zion)
Flarg stuff is just awk
One of Jack/Rhand in that box I think.
tom might be a wolf, but I don't think I buy it.
Hm. Maybe Flarg is a wolf vig. I don't know, but 15 players is an odd number for only 3 wolves unless they have some power. 15 is also a rough game for 4 wolves.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Whst you think of vaimes?
Would have came in on him if Flarg made an intelligent shot. I don't know how he shoots Zionite over Rodemy. Exact same situation except Zionite actually posts content and analysis.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
wat m8?
Go read Sloth's flip please
Im at:
3 scum + SKflarg
3 scum with wolfvigflarg
4 scum with townvigflarg
Most to least likely
I ain’t trying to be derpcleared. Lol gj I guess you are scum. Pushing that argument.
Well look at that. You and Rhand have something in common: You both OMGUS when you feel even an iota of pressure.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
It's that Rod doesn't give a *****, or have any curiosity about who gets eliminated from his own PoE. For me, Tubba being cleared is huge. LW was great for my sanity. What if one of the flips was another relevant PR? What if it was a cop, and you could look at their posting history to see who if any they were softing.
That's what bothers me about his missing that post, not the fact that he actually missed it. For instance, if he asked the other mason to claim, it would have still been a facepalm for him not reading, but at least it would have meant he was thinking about solving.
Lynch this.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
But i def dont think hes town so whatevs
Your point about rod is that he could clearly miss that as town. I get that. I explained why his mindset doesn't reflect even a remote curiosity to solve.
Like, he clearly knew Zionite died.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Read....the....god....damn....flips.....
Yea I'm sorry Tom Imma let your lynch finish eventually but I gotta say Rod is the scummiest person in this game
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KJ(8): Tubba, Vaimes, Tom, GJ,Grape, Zion, Rhand, KCCodemyZion(3):sloth, Jack, YWFgrape(1):KJNot Voting (3): ZDS, Last, Flarg
Rod (6): Last, Vaimes, YWF,
Zion, GJ, JackZion(4): Tubba, ZDS, Flarg, RhandRhand (2): tom, rod
Tom (1):
SlothProbably just no zds in this world. Bussing happens but like
Yeah
(Actually ive been eliminating zds from most worlds. Noted)
I guess vaimes could have been bussing kccslot?
He could be with rhand or flarg (partner or SK?) but both feels excessive. Flarg awkward around him. Really its all iffy out of that cell. Idk.
A cell being two wolves + SK seems OP...
3 wolves maybe in a chosen setup but OP says random and
Moving on
Just talked about jacks Zion vote. Bit of a vaimes chainsaw for sure.
Vaimes and gj could be distancing that went nowhere?
Your representation of me is wrong though. Stop trying to discredit me.
Like 90% of your gameplay has been Im Not wrONg YoU aRe!!!
You're not reading the game....someone so much as breaths in your direction and they're scumlocked...no one has to discredit you when you just keep being wrong.
Bye Felcia.
I think ywf over last tbh but last could be with that eod yesterDay.
Stop discrediting me.
Occams is he just didnt open spoilers and maybe thats cuz he already knew both were town but like whatever man.
Theres lots of reasons to scumread his slot. Most of them from before he replaced into it but he certainly has done nothing to help.
This doesnt seem like a thing that should change hearts and minds to me.
Do you not want to talk about vaimes?
because this slot has been the target since d2. And I know it’s alignment. Easy mislynch. KCC did a ***** job (no offense) and I literally replaced into fire.
If I was scum I’d push this slot HARD.
so yeah, people pushing me hard are my top scumspects.
Is he real? I smell toast. I think I'm having a stroke from reading this.
Read. The. Flips.
But i buy "rod didnt open a spoiler" as either alignment
Might be just scum anyway
How are you still doing this when multiple people have told you to read the flips for a reason. Also just because someone could be wrong on you does not make them scum. I don't understand how you can be so one track minded.
It's a surprising turn unless you knew he was gonna be dead before the Day began.
It's not even just that Jack. I'm supposedly one of his scum reads....ergo you'd think he'd be reading things I post to actually discredit them beyond "she's pressuring me kill her"....I already addressed the flips townfirming C to you and he somehow missed that too. There's no spoiler in my post. It's just right there.
Sorry.
I’m gonna go now
Assuming he flipped BP isn't even a reasonto make this real. A town player who assumes the BP just died would without question check cause it means scum has a way to get around BP. That's info we 10000% need to consider when we're looking for scum.
bye guys. Back lyer
Im already over defending him not sure why i started
My only shareable thoughts about sloths flip is a slight background <why the **** would johnny want a massclaim>
Yeah that is true, he has being like this all all game though including in the cell chat just stuck in his own world of injustice and everything around him is wrong and he is being framed by everyone. I don't even think he bothers to read what others say anymore.
what the hell, dont post unless you have caught up, this is common, don't just in here with your conspiracy theories. You need to know current game state to comment on it
Wait are bullet proof just always death proof here, I assumed it was one shot only and he claimed yesterday he got shot. That was why they was only one death, unless I missed something here. I mean that was clearly false off his claim but my understanding yesterday was that he said that he got shot..
We could be in psuedo mislynch and lose.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I do. But multiple people are posting at once. Your frustration is unneeded.
I know sloth claimed bp. And I was questionOmg why he told his cell n1. So yeah, back the **** off me right now and solve the game.
it’s frustrating when I am still the focus of a lynch. I am trying not to Die and solve. Truth be told flarg probably kills me toNight. Scum won’t stop him. They haven’t stopped him at all. They knew the. Wagons were all town. So they have nothing to worry about with him. But if we mislynch today we are ****ed.
Gj, vaimes, ywf. Kill
At a certain point its willful ignorance regardless
I concede he has no drive to (mechanically) solve
Not really that much solving behaviorally either
Could be scum steering into reactionary indignant ignorance
Could be town... prolly doing about the same but like meh
Feel a little better about vaimes flipping scum aorn, and still want to talk about rod/rhand unalignment, and possible gj unalignment with both
Vaguely think rod is too soft a target with only you and kind of me/sloth actually taking a stance against kcc and everyone else just voting rod because hes useless
You also had no votes before you started posting...
Lynch me. If you think I can replace into a game with 30+ pages near deadline and try and figure this ***** out, you gravely overestimate me.
Lose the ******* game and never see me again. This is not the mtg I grew up with and it’s sad that all this frustration and anger is being massively shown.
It’s a ******* game guys. Calm down.
Tom (2): Vaimes, Tubba
Rod (2): GJ, YWF
Not Voting (2): Jack, Flarg, Last
Now youve read the flip, move on dont quit. You telling me you wouldnt be annoyed by someone doing that?