tom/kcc/z/{dork/flarg}
clearly we can remove Z
not removing Flarg, could still be evil, and I dont think mechanics give me a reason to remove him as a wolf, despite Vaimes' thoughts
definitely isnt townie
but I wouldnt vote him today
Actually, I take that back, you're right. Depending on the full setup, a scum vig kind of makes sense with three Masons floating around in addition to whatever other roles are out there. Especially since scum got an extra kill in the smaller setup.
@Jackrito
so uhhm idk why I had to ask you to vote near EoD?
I dont really believe you not knowing the lynch mechanics of this site, really makes a difference?
@Jackrito
so uhhm idk why I had to ask you to vote near EoD?
I dont really believe you not knowing the lynch mechanics of this site, really makes a difference?
It does to a degree but the bigger issue was more me not realizing the time, but I'm not here to make excuses the embarrassment is bad enough. host was leient enough to let my vote pass though.
Nah, that vote was garbage, if you are town then I am disgusted
This has nothing to do with timezones
i mean i thought it was another hour to eod because timezones.
I set an alarm for eod while in MST snowboarding, flew home to PST saturday.
So half hour after eod, i showed up amd started catching up thinking i had 30 minutes
Its no excuse. I was just ******* around playing videogames.
tbh I didnt even know either which kinda annoys me
but placing your vote on a wagon two? instead of Rod? or Zion?
nah you are a wolf, and even if not, stops me from building teams around you
which sorta is a big blunt of my thoughts right now
Unless I'm missing something here which is possible so sloth was not Bulletproof and just a mason? So what the hell was night one about if that is true.
That aside sloth dies kills my paranoia of him being a deep wolf which was disscussed in my cell last night at length and Zion being gone gets rid of the issue of that slot. Just sucks I was so wrong on that day one but at least was semi right day 2.
I'm fine with Tom I guess slight worry that it is a set up because part of me thinks if he would open wolf that hard,but my view on this gamestate is so wrong by now I don't trust myself. The play should be Tom today though hope we are correct then Rod next I guess but that is getting too ahead of things.
On that though since not used to meta and this setup what are the chances that all of the masons are town, because that seems like a bit much of a confirm off one death.
KJ (8): Tubba, Vaimes, Tom, GJ, Grape, Zion, Rhand, KCCodemy Zion (3): sloth, Jack, YWF grape (1): KJ
Not Voting (3): ZDS, Last, Flarg
Hard to imagine scun not soreading out on v/v wagons just naturally, but zion wagon looks town here. Note to check an earlier/bigger one
Whole team on kj possible but not likely i imagine. Even in an eod shuffle...
Rod (6): Last, Vaimes, YWF, Zion, GJ, Jack Zion (4): Tubba, ZDS, Flarg, Rhand
Rhand (2): tom, Rod
Tom (1): Sloth
Like my gut says if rod was town hed have gotten lynched even without me
But who really knows
Still looking for some input on whether rodslot and rhand can be w/w. It did seem like kcc pocketing rhand and im still thinking no.
Right thats what i ****ed up he should be dead and we should know im sorry
Rod was townier than rhand i guess but not actually towny.
But I cant see a world without one of them?
tbh I didnt even know either which kinda annoys me
but placing your vote on a wagon two? instead of Rod? or Zion?
nah you are a wolf, and even if not, stops me from building teams around you
which sorta is a big blunt of my thoughts right now
i mean yes its super bad if i knew deadline was an hour closer but im maybe missing how its wolfy otherwise
Unless you think i came in to move my vote to purposely cause a no lynch which
Ok
So off my game here, anyway like someone said before with 3 confirmed town, I really doubt we have a multi shot town vig as well, that seems like too easy of a way to shorten the POE.
So off my game here, anyway like someone said before with 3 confirmed town, I really doubt we have a multi shot town vig as well, that seems like too easy of a way to shorten the POE.
For whats it worth Rod spend most of our night chat trying to shade sloth and Wisp. Also trying to convience us that Tom never voted him to frame him somehow. Tbh he sounded a bit panicked in my point of view and trying to shade as many people as possible, but thats my view Espically since he was shadeing Wisp for not moving to zion eod like that was the issue for the no lynch.
tbh I didnt even know either which kinda annoys me
but placing your vote on a wagon two? instead of Rod? or Zion?
nah you are a wolf, and even if not, stops me from building teams around you
which sorta is a big blunt of my thoughts right now
i mean yes its super bad if i knew deadline was an hour closer but im maybe missing how its wolfy otherwise
Unless you think i came in to move my vote to purposely cause a no lynch which
Ok
Question, who are the wolves?
and IDK, but I need to carry on Sloth's legacy
I don't think ZDS is scum especially if Flarg is, both nights in our chat he has came off pretty townie as well, actually trying to work the game out and also work out if I'm town. Possible he is good at faking, but it feels really natrual so I would lynch him last out of the possible suspects.
Question, who are the wolves?
and IDK, but I need to carry on Sloth's legacy
i dare you to read sloths case on me and tell me he wouldnt scumread me regardless of my alignment but you do you i guess
I think rhand and kcc slot are wolfiest but i dont think theyre scum together.
Im kinda gonna try to teambuild from each and see which makes more sense overall but the actual answer is one should have flipped yesterday but im an idiot
I think i understand you and vaimes being NAI pissed at me (with good reason) and would like to understand if thats turning into a wolfread or its just an excuse (but youre town so just vaimes and maybe you can help with that)
Everyone else i generally feel good about so obviously i need due diligence.
Zds, jack, ywf, gj are all people prolly playing pretty well as either alignment?
Flarg im <grumble grumble claim>
I don't think ZDS is scum especially if Flarg is, both nights in our chat he has came off pretty townie as well, actually trying to work the game out and also work out if I'm town. Possible he is good at faking, but it feels really natrual so I would lynch him last out of the possible suspects.
ya don't really care about things I can't see, sorry not sorry
I don't think ZDS is scum especially if Flarg is, both nights in our chat he has came off pretty townie as well, actually trying to work the game out and also work out if I'm town. Possible he is good at faking, but it feels really natrual so I would lynch him last out of the possible suspects.
ya don't really care about things I can't see, sorry not sorry
Yeah that is fair, sadly we don't all have the luck to have cells of confirmed town. I'm stuck in the most scummy cell in general, so hard to take anything from it on face value.
I don’t know ***** about this game, all of my reads have been busts. PoE getting tighter, think Rod pretty much has to be a wolf, and Tom parking his vote off either wagon is a bad look. I’d also like Sloth to speak to me again, and if any of you guys would like that as well, you need to dunk Tom here. Vote Tom
KCC positioning within her cell (pushing zds but only doing for jack at first?) means shes alone in there if shes a wolf.
And with rhand still feels unlikely but no one wants to talk about it...
So maybe the team for rod has to be like
Vaimes or flarg and ywf or gj?
Rhand...
I mean no real unalignments except kcc...
But if its him and vaimes with SK flarg would be a crazy chat...
Less weird if hes town vig
I guess if hes scum he works with rhand or vaimes
4 man teams all seem impossible short of ywf AND gj because these weirdnesses in D and E
So 3 or 3 + SK
Latter seems more balanced tbh, but theres no real difference for this particular solving except flarg gets included as scumvig instead basically?
Theyd need something for straight 3v12
Ok guess thats pretty important
Kcc not scum with zds
Not 3 nontown in E
Are surest things i think
Kcc not scum with rhand?
Flarg?
Ywf/gj town?
Are biggest questions
And if that first one is yes which is it?
Worlds where theyre both town are like
Tubba at least talk to me about kcc/rhand or something.
I think you know how bad sloths case was and if you can believe im more likely a stoner that uses alarms and changed timezones i think you can at least pretend to work with me til i die for it
I mean you mostly work on the basis of not showing TMI
like if you can push someone you will, but like you arent stupid
you know you have to buss at some points
Yeah if both masons want me dead its def inevitable.
So im putting my foot down we have to figure out those unalignments.
I think kcc/zds is not a thing.
Kcc/rhand feels like if its w/v yall have no chance after im gone unless we figure that out
Vaimes/rhand seems awkward balance-wise with flarg as sk OR town vig.
I mean you mostly work on the basis of not showing TMI
like if you can push someone you will, but like you arent stupid
you know you have to buss at some points
its also not fine
thats my point theres no reason to leave if i was bussing
Id have known rod not getting lynched doesnt do anything for me
Or him
Like
Sorry this doesnt matter
Im going to flip town. Help me leave a real legacy i need help from you especially to figure out peoples chanfes on me think logically please missing eod is the worst thing ive done in awhile but its not wolfy
Like, in chat ywf wouldnt even talk to me until i was just
Oog chatting about coronavirus
Idk maybe its a guilty conscience for torpedoing the game but she felt like that terse kind of livid
Youre mad, i get it.
Vaimes too id like to hear more from him
But jack was just.
Vote tom because thats what you do when someone ****s up la dee dah
at least we'd be in a somewhat better game state if we had killed Rodemy regardless of his alignment
but here we are
I didn't want you dead, but your vote pissed me off
and solving you, opens up this game
but I'd hope you continue to try to figure out this game, so we have a legacy to go off of
i get it
Be pissed at me
I deserve it
Not a wolf.
Wolves possibly using this as an excuse?
Jack doesnt seem mad at all is that a thing?
I did the same thing to a degree so not really fair for me to be mad. The lack of lynch came because this game is split. I'm also not as sold you are scum as everyone else here, since I don't see you doing that on purpose as a wolf since it had no benefit the lynch may of still happened if zion voters swapped as well. They was another chances to confirm the lynch yesterday so we all need to share blame a bit.
I still think you need to die since 3 confirmed town think you are scum, the way rod talked about you last night made it sound like he knows you are flipping red as well, but this lynch bothers a bit still since it is all a bit easy,
@Tom
I have a question, what was the point of your vote change to Rhand
its hard to tell the exact time of your vote because I all see is, "2 days"
all I know is you did comment afterwards
ZDS/Flarg
being W/W means that ZDS pushed the mafia vig forcing him to claim, because profit?
Like I understand distancing but this is just stupid
I wish Jack would stop being so woe is me right now, cause my town read is fading, and I am confused
@Tom
I have a question, what was the point of your vote change to Rhand
its hard to tell the exact time of your vote because I all see is, "2 days"
all I know is you did comment afterwards
ZDS/Flarg
being W/W means that ZDS pushed the mafia vig forcing him to claim, because profit?
Like I understand distancing but this is just stupid
I wish Jack would stop being so woe is me right now, cause my town read is fading, and I am confused
I'm more just frustrated then woe is me, but I can see how it comes across that way.
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Vote Tom
B. Killjoy
B. Zionite
C. Slothful
E. Vaimes
C. Lastwhisper
C. Tubba Fett
D. ZeDorkSlipeur
A. YWFMLF
E. FlargBlarg
E. Rhand
D. Jackrito
B. Gentleman Johnny
D. Rodemy r KittyCupCake
A. Tomsloger
Whatever Flarg is, he isn't mafia, so he's off the hook for now.
Kind of super hated Jack's "I didn't know the lynch mechanic worked that way" and contributed to the No Lunch. We're not on Day 1 anymore.
Slightly insulted anyone thinks not showing up is ever a purposeful thing from me as any alignment but whatever
I prolly torpedoed this game. Especially if i get lynched over it
Still dont know who i think is scum
This has nothing to do with timezones
Jesus Christ people
Narrator: And then he didn't.
Also why is Flarg not a wolf here?
fair I guess? in regards to Flarg
clearly we can remove Z
not removing Flarg, could still be evil, and I dont think mechanics give me a reason to remove him as a wolf, despite Vaimes' thoughts
definitely isnt townie
but I wouldnt vote him today
so uhhm idk why I had to ask you to vote near EoD?
I dont really believe you not knowing the lynch mechanics of this site, really makes a difference?
It does to a degree but the bigger issue was more me not realizing the time, but I'm not here to make excuses the embarrassment is bad enough. host was leient enough to let my vote pass though.
I set an alarm for eod while in MST snowboarding, flew home to PST saturday.
So half hour after eod, i showed up amd started catching up thinking i had 30 minutes
Its no excuse. I was just ******* around playing videogames.
but placing your vote on a wagon two? instead of Rod? or Zion?
nah you are a wolf, and even if not, stops me from building teams around you
which sorta is a big blunt of my thoughts right now
That aside sloth dies kills my paranoia of him being a deep wolf which was disscussed in my cell last night at length and Zion being gone gets rid of the issue of that slot. Just sucks I was so wrong on that day one but at least was semi right day 2.
I'm fine with Tom I guess slight worry that it is a set up because part of me thinks if he would open wolf that hard,but my view on this gamestate is so wrong by now I don't trust myself. The play should be Tom today though hope we are correct then Rod next I guess but that is getting too ahead of things.
On that though since not used to meta and this setup what are the chances that all of the masons are town, because that seems like a bit much of a confirm off one death.
KJ(8): Tubba, Vaimes, Tom, GJ,Grape, Zion, Rhand, KCCodemyZion(3):sloth, Jack, YWFgrape(1):KJNot Voting (3): ZDS, Last, Flarg
Hard to imagine scun not soreading out on v/v wagons just naturally, but zion wagon looks town here. Note to check an earlier/bigger one
Whole team on kj possible but not likely i imagine. Even in an eod shuffle...
Rod (6): Last, Vaimes, YWF,
Zion, GJ, JackZion(4): Tubba, ZDS, Flarg, RhandRhand (2): tom, Rod
Tom (1):
SlothLike my gut says if rod was town hed have gotten lynched even without me
But who really knows
Still looking for some input on whether rodslot and rhand can be w/w. It did seem like kcc pocketing rhand and im still thinking no.
Right thats what i ****ed up he should be dead and we should know im sorry
Rod was townier than rhand i guess but not actually towny.
But I cant see a world without one of them?
Unless you think i came in to move my vote to purposely cause a no lynch which
Ok
I don't know who it was recently that tried to argue the possibility of scum masons, but we're not doing that again.
Are you not reading flips and mods posts?
ok fair just not used to games where the masons are confirmed alignments and having 3 of them at once. I did not see the town only part my bad.
he's either an SK, or a mafia vig
and IDK, but I need to carry on Sloth's legacy
A. YWFMLF
B. Gentleman Johnny especially if Tom flips red
C. Lastwhisper
C. Tubba Fett
D. Jackrito (idk what to think anymore, I need to review him)
D. KittyCupCake
D. ZeDorkSlipeur
E. FlargBlarg evil, which evil is the question
E. Rhand depends a lot on Tom also
E. Vaimes
7/3/1
lets go with this for now
I also didnt read the whole flip
I thought 1 (unclaimed) mason partner and was assuming tubba
Ok
I think rhand and kcc slot are wolfiest but i dont think theyre scum together.
Im kinda gonna try to teambuild from each and see which makes more sense overall but the actual answer is one should have flipped yesterday but im an idiot
I think i understand you and vaimes being NAI pissed at me (with good reason) and would like to understand if thats turning into a wolfread or its just an excuse (but youre town so just vaimes and maybe you can help with that)
Everyone else i generally feel good about so obviously i need due diligence.
Zds, jack, ywf, gj are all people prolly playing pretty well as either alignment?
Flarg im <grumble grumble claim>
I dont have good answers
Yeah that is fair, sadly we don't all have the luck to have cells of confirmed town. I'm stuck in the most scummy cell in general, so hard to take anything from it on face value.
Vote Tom
Grapefuit21A. Tomsloger
A. YWFMLF
B. Gentleman Johnny
B.
KilljoyB. Zionite
C. Lastwhisper
C.
SlothfulC. Tubba Fett
D. Jackrito
D. KittyCupCake>rod
D. ZeDorkSlipeur
E. FlargBlarg
E. Rhand
E. Vaimes
So we know C is blue.
KCC positioning within her cell (pushing zds but only doing for jack at first?) means shes alone in there if shes a wolf.
And with rhand still feels unlikely but no one wants to talk about it...
So maybe the team for rod has to be like
Vaimes or flarg and ywf or gj?
Rhand...
I mean no real unalignments except kcc...
But if its him and vaimes with SK flarg would be a crazy chat...
Less weird if hes town vig
I guess if hes scum he works with rhand or vaimes
4 man teams all seem impossible short of ywf AND gj because these weirdnesses in D and E
So 3 or 3 + SK
Latter seems more balanced tbh, but theres no real difference for this particular solving except flarg gets included as scumvig instead basically?
Theyd need something for straight 3v12
Ok guess thats pretty important
Kcc not scum with zds
Not 3 nontown in E
Are surest things i think
Kcc not scum with rhand?
Flarg?
Ywf/gj town?
Are biggest questions
And if that first one is yes which is it?
Worlds where theyre both town are like
Prolly unwinnable because of me
I think you know how bad sloths case was and if you can believe im more likely a stoner that uses alarms and changed timezones i think you can at least pretend to work with me til i die for it
If i put that much effort into bussing id have never left the wagon in the first place for my idiocy to come into play
But THATS FINE
like if you can push someone you will, but like you arent stupid
you know you have to buss at some points
its also not fine
So im putting my foot down we have to figure out those unalignments.
I think kcc/zds is not a thing.
Kcc/rhand feels like if its w/v yall have no chance after im gone unless we figure that out
Vaimes/rhand seems awkward balance-wise with flarg as sk OR town vig.
but here we are
I didn't want you dead, but your vote pissed me off
and solving you, opens up this game
but I'd hope you continue to try to figure out this game, so we have a legacy to go off of
Id have known rod not getting lynched doesnt do anything for me
Or him
Like
Sorry this doesnt matter
Im going to flip town. Help me leave a real legacy i need help from you especially to figure out peoples chanfes on me think logically please missing eod is the worst thing ive done in awhile but its not wolfy
Be pissed at me
I deserve it
Not a wolf.
Wolves possibly using this as an excuse?
Jack doesnt seem mad at all is that a thing?
Oog chatting about coronavirus
Idk maybe its a guilty conscience for torpedoing the game but she felt like that terse kind of livid
Youre mad, i get it.
Vaimes too id like to hear more from him
But jack was just.
Vote tom because thats what you do when someone ****s up la dee dah
I did the same thing to a degree so not really fair for me to be mad. The lack of lynch came because this game is split. I'm also not as sold you are scum as everyone else here, since I don't see you doing that on purpose as a wolf since it had no benefit the lynch may of still happened if zion voters swapped as well. They was another chances to confirm the lynch yesterday so we all need to share blame a bit.
I still think you need to die since 3 confirmed town think you are scum, the way rod talked about you last night made it sound like he knows you are flipping red as well, but this lynch bothers a bit still since it is all a bit easy,
I have a question, what was the point of your vote change to Rhand
its hard to tell the exact time of your vote because I all see is, "2 days"
all I know is you did comment afterwards
ZDS/Flarg
being W/W means that ZDS pushed the mafia vig forcing him to claim, because profit?
Like I understand distancing but this is just stupid
I wish Jack would stop being so woe is me right now, cause my town read is fading, and I am confused
I'm more just frustrated then woe is me, but I can see how it comes across that way.