Ok by level of crypticness im guessing you think hes vezoks mason partner?
(Probably not a bad town read on me i definitely havent cared at all to figure that out)
If thats the case i think: >vezok/grape w/w
>theyre some kind of complicated season-based neighbors and vezok thinks her role PM makes grape town
>vezok is FPSing in some way
Combine to be more likely than actual masons itg
I was trending this way a little without thinking about potential partners but even moreso if its grape
First of all Unvote because, while I still think he's behaviorally scummy he did claim Watcher and we will see about that I guess but he gets a pass today.
I think fulcrum soft CCing KCC likely means they aren't aligned.
I still think KCC's reaction to Nacho's whateverthe**** was odd for town. There was no inquisitiveness, no combativeness, just nothing that tells me "I have this role, is this for real?" Honestly, it feels like KCC thinks she was caught. It feels almost gleeful, which I don't quite understand. I wanna say there's no reason for her not to fight Nacho though, at least try to get him lynched... unless she maybe didn't wanna create antialignments but is that really worth a scum life? Damn this is hard.
Still haven't seen anything that says "I'm town" from dk. Someone talk to me about him. Might be willing to go here.
Also someone tell me why Grape is town? I don't trust him.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
First of all Unvote because, while I still think he's behaviorally scummy he did claim Watcher and we will see about that I guess but he gets a pass today.
I think fulcrum soft CCing KCC likely means they aren't aligned.
I still think KCC's reaction to Nacho's whateverthe**** was odd for town. There was no inquisitiveness, no combativeness, just nothing that tells me "I have this role, is this for real?" Honestly, it feels like KCC thinks she was caught. It feels almost gleeful, which I don't quite understand. I wanna say there's no reason for her not to fight Nacho though, at least try to get him lynched... unless she maybe didn't wanna create antialignments but is that really worth a scum life? Damn this is hard.
Still haven't seen anything that says "I'm town" from dk. Someone talk to me about him. Might be willing to go here.
Also someone tell me why Grape is town? I don't trust him.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I do not have the ability to target. During three different seasons, I see someone who took an action, I see the name of an action that was taken, and I see two abilities that could have been taken during that abilities' season.
I don't think that was intended as a soft CC because I don't see what in this role is parallel to KCC's role. Like pretty much only the seasonality is similar.
I didn't say she was town tom. I said she wasn't scum with KCC. Did you just TMI KCC as scum? lol
fonti getting towncred for her bad CC of axel too. At least from silver
Im saying that in zero worlds should she get any cred at all for any part of her setupgaming
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I do not have the ability to target. During three different seasons, I see someone who took an action, I see the name of an action that was taken, and I see two abilities that could have been taken during that abilities' season.
I don't think that was intended as a soft CC because I don't see what in this role is parallel to KCC's role. Like pretty much only the seasonality is similar.
thats her CC of axel, not whatever kj is talking about
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I do not have the ability to target. During three different seasons, I see someone who took an action, I see the name of an action that was taken, and I see two abilities that could have been taken during that abilities' season.
I don't think that was intended as a soft CC because I don't see what in this role is parallel to KCC's role. Like pretty much only the seasonality is similar.
thats her CC of axel, not whatever kj is talking about
I know what KJ's talking about, I quoted the role to show how it doesn't seem parallel to KC's role outside of having different roles in different seasons, which I thought was expected given the setup description, sample role, etc.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
bruh were an hour from deadline and top wagons are 6 votes from a lynch
Aggro gets things done
So does powerwolfing.
I talked about this before but tom is not power wolfing, his reads are too close ~everyone elses for that
If he's a wolf his partners are in his scum reads and he's just not pushing them, or a whole stack of competent town players are wrong about everything
I think Nacho is scum. His reason for changing to summer is very weak and then we get that daykill. I think whoever did that daykill was a lynch candidate and Nacho went yolo with the season change.
vote Nacho
choochoo, we have 1 hour.
If I don’t fall asleep, I will switch to whoever is in lynch range.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
bruh were an hour from deadline and top wagons are 6 votes from a lynch
Aggro gets things done
So does powerwolfing.
I talked about this before but tom is not power wolfing, his reads are too close ~everyone elses for that
If he's a wolf his partners are in his scum reads and he's just not pushing them, or a whole stack of competent town players are wrong about everything
what reads do the stack of competent town players have?
i'd like to sheep them.
I don't see fulcrum inventing that role or that role being a wolf tbh
I guess it could be wolf role cop and she redacted all the targeting bits but meeeh
wtf are you talking about how is that role not more useful for a wolf than town even as claimed?
Especially with minor alterations that wolf fonti would totally make to make it less scummy
bruh were an hour from deadline and top wagons are 6 votes from a lynch
Aggro gets things done
So does powerwolfing.
I talked about this before but tom is not power wolfing, his reads are too close ~everyone elses for that
If he's a wolf his partners are in his scum reads and he's just not pushing them, or a whole stack of competent town players are wrong about everything
what reads do the stack of competent town players have?
i'd like to sheep them.
Better yet who are the competent town players?
I'd like to sheep them also.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I think Nacho is scum. His reason for changing to summer is very weak and then we get that daykill. I think whoever did that daykill was a lynch candidate and Nacho went yolo with the season change.
vote Nacho
choochoo, we have 1 hour.
If I don’t fall asleep, I will switch to whoever is in lynch range.
this is you avoiding responsibility for placing an actual vote.
the lynch candidates before i torched everything were dk and kitty, who are both viable wagons now.
you aren't voting one of those two because...?
Yeah Rhand now is not the time for voting the middle of nowhere. We need to find a scum wagon with some consensus. Even if Nacho is scum, he doesn't have that consensus.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I mean we were pretty much all town reading each other for most of the phase at various strengths it seemed like?
Me/Nacho/Gemma/Killjoy/Vaimes~ish and a bunch of people have had the same wolf reads for literally the entire phase, that's why we're locked in like we are on dk/Axel/KCC lmao
I think Nacho is scum. His reason for changing to summer is very weak and then we get that daykill. I think whoever did that daykill was a lynch candidate and Nacho went yolo with the season change.
vote Nacho
choochoo, we have 1 hour.
If I don’t fall asleep, I will switch to whoever is in lynch range.
this is you avoiding responsibility for placing an actual vote.
the lynch candidates before i torched everything were dk and kitty, who are both viable wagons now.
you aren't voting one of those two because...?
The dumb read I have on you being town is that you're still pushing him, for the record
I don't want to lynch Axel, but I'm definitely not putting a vote on grape
(Probably not a bad town read on me i definitely havent cared at all to figure that out)
If thats the case i think:
>vezok/grape w/w
>theyre some kind of complicated season-based neighbors and vezok thinks her role PM makes grape town
>vezok is FPSing in some way
Combine to be more likely than actual masons itg
I was trending this way a little without thinking about potential partners but even moreso if its grape
I think fulcrum soft CCing KCC likely means they aren't aligned.
I still think KCC's reaction to Nacho's whateverthe**** was odd for town. There was no inquisitiveness, no combativeness, just nothing that tells me "I have this role, is this for real?" Honestly, it feels like KCC thinks she was caught. It feels almost gleeful, which I don't quite understand. I wanna say there's no reason for her not to fight Nacho though, at least try to get him lynched... unless she maybe didn't wanna create antialignments but is that really worth a scum life? Damn this is hard.
Still haven't seen anything that says "I'm town" from dk. Someone talk to me about him. Might be willing to go here.
Also someone tell me why Grape is town? I don't trust him.
Feels kinda bad but in a way im comfortable with
What?
I see the nonsense has continued.
The BG claim is probably legit but it's also pretty low value.
Tom is almost certainly town and I'm disappointed I didn't make his "read him in gimmick" list.
I'd kill nacho today for sure even though I can see town paranoia I can also see scum fps.
Cool
Fonti is better than her interaction with mechanics this game. It doesnt make her scum but it sure as hell doesnt make her town
I didn't say she was town tom. I said she wasn't scum with KCC. Did you just TMI KCC as scum? lol
I'm going to have to go find this, because her claim wasn't anywhere remotely near mine
vote KCC
Still sitting here with my finger on the "hammer dkings" button
Im saying that in zero worlds should she get any cred at all for any part of her setupgaming
Looking through ISO now
Shes probably not scum with axel
Okay, I'm not understanding these at all with what she ended up claiming
Use your votes people
dkings (3): Asta, Grape, Nacho
Axel (3): vezok, Rhand, fulcrum
Wasted votes (8): kcc, vaimes, silver, last, axel, proph, keldeo, kj
Aggro gets things done
Fulcrum seemed legitimately confused by my handling of her which is townish I guess.
Yeah, I cannot see an explanation beyond just wanting to shade my claim there
It's certainly more than anything else I have
vote fulcrum
Meh. KCC's bus drive can be used at any time now, I think? And I think dk's bodyguard can also be applied at any time now? Was unclear.
By lynching we'd be giving up full watcher for a "names of abilities" watcher, which is kinda useless as a deterrent.
I don't know what to do. I don't think I believe strongly in the dk case.
Maybe not.
Walk me through it
I guess it could be wolf role cop and she redacted all the targeting bits but meeeh
I also don't really see the utility of that role on a wolf but major shrug about that being not-wolf-indicative.
If he's a wolf his partners are in his scum reads and he's just not pushing them, or a whole stack of competent town players are wrong about everything
vote Nacho
choochoo, we have 1 hour.
If I don’t fall asleep, I will switch to whoever is in lynch range.
But yes if im a wolf every person im pushing rn is likely town
Vote KCC. That's my best read right now that I have time to explore.
i didn't think that kcc's bus drive could be used at any time and dk specifically said he "chose during the night" of summer
what reads do the stack of competent town players have?
i'd like to sheep them.
Especially with minor alterations that wolf fonti would totally make to make it less scummy
I'd like to sheep them also.
this is you avoiding responsibility for placing an actual vote.
the lynch candidates before i torched everything were dk and kitty, who are both viable wagons now.
you aren't voting one of those two because...?
Me/Nacho/Gemma/Killjoy/Vaimes~ish and a bunch of people have had the same wolf reads for literally the entire phase, that's why we're locked in like we are on dk/Axel/KCC lmao
...I’m hoping I can get your wagon going.