KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I am celebrating my own birthday, so probably not on for deadline.
I’m starting to think I’m wrong about KCC and Cantrip seems to be in his town meta, so I am wrong about someone else.
Not KJ for sure, and I think my vote on tubba is in the right place.
I hope to see tomorrow to re-evaluate. I have people over for my birthday, so can’t do it now.
@Cantrip: you’re comparing a micro to a mini, which play very differently.
Also, you’re continually overlooking the fact that I’ve explained why my read on you is the way it is; and as much as I would love to say it’s something different, it’s not. If you’re town, you’re omgusing.
@Cantrip & Tom, sell me on Shadow. I don’t see the solving I’d expect, but nothing screams scum at me. Why you want him so bad?
I seriously don't expect anyone to feel as strongly about this as I do, because I don't think anyone has the history I've had with Shadow. He and I almost always try to figure each other out, early on, and usually with quite a bit of fun. This game he just...didn't. He default rubbish-binned me.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
@Cantrip & Tom, sell me on Shadow. I don’t see the solving I’d expect, but nothing screams scum at me. Why you want him so bad?
I seriously don't expect anyone to feel as strongly about this as I do, because I don't think anyone has the history I've had with Shadow. He and I almost always try to figure each other out, early on, and usually with quite a bit of fun. This game he just...didn't. He default rubbish-binned me.
Oh, it feels personal. I think I kind of get why you feel low level irritated now.
DAY ONE FINAL VOTE COUNT "'Do it?' Dan, I'm not a Republic serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my masterstroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago." Rhand (4): KCC, Tubba, Shadow, Cantrip
Shadow (1): Tom
Tubba (1): Rhand
Cantrip (1): Killjoy
Rhand has been lynched!
Ozymandias (Adrien Veidt)
"I'm trying to improve the world.
Rhand was Vanilla Town
Unfortunately for Ozymandias, in this timeline the outcome was affected.
It is now Night One. Night will last for about 48 hours, clock starting from this post.
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Can we have Megiddo removed from the forum forever please?
i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
WATCHMEN WANTED - DAY 2 Malcolm, I'm warning you! You let yourself get drawn towards another heap of somebody else's grief, I don't want to see you again!
Killjoy has been killed!
Dr. Malcolm Long
"It's the world. I can't run from it."
Killjoy was Vanilla Town
Gloria... did not see Malcolm again.
It is now Day 2. With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch!
Day will last 6 days, so deadline is 11:59PM Eastern time on Saturday, Nov. 24
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i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
I love micros! They’re fun and fast, and everything is on a razor’s edge
If you want to know how easily this game could have gone the other way, Tubba correctly watched Killjoy and saw KCC kill him N1!
I came into Today fully expecting a KCC lynch and Cantrip to have to fight it out in F3, but the quickhammer off of a Tom vote was a spectacular finish.
Here is where I give props to the scumteam. After weathering solid pressure through all of D1 and slipping out of it, they made excellent use of their Night to strategize and plan specifically for the quickhammer (you can see the scum chat for how they did this). In a game like this all decisions are really important due to the compressed timeline and I think they made the most of it.
Shoutouts again to Tubba for correctly calling the NK. Unfortunately the game ended literally before he could tell the thread about it. Rhand also had great reads early on, correctly calling the scum team on page, like, 2.
HOLY CROW, we only scraped this win out by the skin of our teeth because the watcher was late to the D2 party.
Really good job, Rhand, at sussing KCC so quickly and figuring the game out.
Shadow, really good job to you, too. Sorta frustrating to get that initial scum read because I wasn't active over the weekend, but them's the breaks, I guess.
KJ, I was way impressed that you called me out on Silver Rage (which I got caught on once before, but it had been a while, so I forgot). This wasn't quite the same, as you mentioned, but I think you correctly connected the dots. (I was aiming for a joking tone, but obviously it didn't come off as such.)
This was a fun game, and I'm not sure where people who recently said micros don't feel like mafia are coming from. It very much felt like mafia. Would welcome a conversation about why people feel that way.
Tom... really? You’ve hosted so many micro’s and now you come in with a lylo vote? Sad and hilarious at the same time
I’m pretty proud at my early reads and should have stuck with them.
Great job @KCC of shading me to the point it became my lynch.
And bad, bad town for deadline lynching me when I for once really spewed town.
Sorry, Tubba. I legit thought Tom was the watcher, had gotten a non-result on someone else, and was risking things trying to spin it into getting Shadow to confess.
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If you want to know how easily this game could have gone the other way, Tubba correctly watched Killjoy and saw KCC kill him N1!
Considering it was Tom who voted shadow here, I'm guessing Cantrip would most likely have won that F3 anyway, but I like this way better
I want to give points to Tom for how many times he said "Your defense is reasonable, but I still want to lynch you," that was really making me nervous
The early game was brutal with rolling scum in my first micro. It's hard to act town when I don't know what my town game even looks like. Very nice catches on that
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Cantrip: I'm looking for that post but can't find it.
Also, you’re continually overlooking the fact that I’ve explained why my read on you is the way it is; and as much as I would love to say it’s something different, it’s not. If you’re town, you’re omgusing.
Bah.
I wish I wasn't at d&d rn so I could focus here now.
If I get NK'd, grill Shadow and Tubba. They're my best guess.
Just in case
Glgl
I’m VT.
Please stop posting and stand by for EOD.
"'Do it?' Dan, I'm not a Republic serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my masterstroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago."
Rhand (4): KCC, Tubba, Shadow, Cantrip
Shadow (1): Tom
Tubba (1): Rhand
Cantrip (1): Killjoy
Rhand has been lynched!
"I'm trying to improve the world.
Rhand was Vanilla Town
It is now Night One. Night will last for about 48 hours, clock starting from this post.
Malcolm, I'm warning you! You let yourself get drawn towards another heap of somebody else's grief, I don't want to see you again!
Killjoy has been killed!
"It's the world. I can't run from it."
Killjoy was Vanilla Town
It is now Day 2. With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch!
Day will last 6 days, so deadline is 11:59PM Eastern time on Saturday, Nov. 24
I haven't reread yet, but I'm still strongly at Shadow + Tubba. I'm going to wait until everyone checks in before exerting too much effort, though.
I still don't think you make sense as scum with Rhand being town
I'll do another quick reread, but it's probably just cantrip/Tubba here
Will get around to explaining this better in a bit
Yaaaaaasssss. Please tell me you're the watcher and you caught Shadow.
Seriously.
If Shadow's scum.
Don't keep us in suspense!
vote shadow
Observant as always
I’ll keep you in suspense for a bit... still at work.
“No.”
Shadow (3): Tom, KCC, Cantrip
Not voting: Shadow, Tubba
Shadowlancerx has been lynched!
"There. Did what had to be done."
Shadow was Vanilla town
Tubba Fett (The Comedian, Town Hyper Watcher) and Tomsloger (Silk Spectre, Vanilla Town) along with the rest of the town were defeated.
Thanks to everybody for playing! Spec and Scum chats with some brief mod commentary in the next post.
If you want to know how easily this game could have gone the other way, Tubba correctly watched Killjoy and saw KCC kill him N1!
I came into Today fully expecting a KCC lynch and Cantrip to have to fight it out in F3, but the quickhammer off of a Tom vote was a spectacular finish.
Here is where I give props to the scumteam. After weathering solid pressure through all of D1 and slipping out of it, they made excellent use of their Night to strategize and plan specifically for the quickhammer (you can see the scum chat for how they did this). In a game like this all decisions are really important due to the compressed timeline and I think they made the most of it.
Shoutouts again to Tubba for correctly calling the NK. Unfortunately the game ended literally before he could tell the thread about it. Rhand also had great reads early on, correctly calling the scum team on page, like, 2.
Scum chat: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/Uu5uXPTMMjKC
Spec chat (mostly me tbh): https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/XatwVDrUXK3Dr
Thanks everybody! I had fun hosting.
Really good job, Rhand, at sussing KCC so quickly and figuring the game out.
Shadow, really good job to you, too. Sorta frustrating to get that initial scum read because I wasn't active over the weekend, but them's the breaks, I guess.
KJ, I was way impressed that you called me out on Silver Rage (which I got caught on once before, but it had been a while, so I forgot). This wasn't quite the same, as you mentioned, but I think you correctly connected the dots. (I was aiming for a joking tone, but obviously it didn't come off as such.)
This was a fun game, and I'm not sure where people who recently said micros don't feel like mafia are coming from. It very much felt like mafia. Would welcome a conversation about why people feel that way.
Thanks, Megiddo, for being willing to run!
And thanks, KCC, for scumming with me!
I’m pretty proud at my early reads and should have stuck with them.
Great job @KCC of shading me to the point it became my lynch.
And bad, bad town for deadline lynching me when I for once really spewed town.
Dont get wake and bake while playing multiple games.
Sorry
Sorry, Tubba. I legit thought Tom was the watcher, had gotten a non-result on someone else, and was risking things trying to spin it into getting Shadow to confess.
Considering it was Tom who voted shadow here, I'm guessing Cantrip would most likely have won that F3 anyway, but I like this way better
I want to give points to Tom for how many times he said "Your defense is reasonable, but I still want to lynch you," that was really making me nervous
The early game was brutal with rolling scum in my first micro. It's hard to act town when I don't know what my town game even looks like. Very nice catches on that