If you're town, I think you made a decent decision in holding it.
If you're scum, this is pretty well done.
What were your initial feelings on the role when you read your PM?
Well Like I said I initially misread the active part of my ability. But I was meh'd. I'm very unlikely to be a doc target so I didn't feel like it would be a big deal.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
We honestly just might have to kill KJ here regardless of his alignment. We are going to lose if he’s town and makes it to endgame. He can’t be cop checked, and depending on Cantrip’s role/specifications, he might not even be viggable.
One vote on Az in RVS. Switched to shadow sometime day 1 and hammered Az when it was a done deal.
You voted Last day 2 and didn't move your vote at all.
And you voted tom day 3 and have not moved at all.
For me this seems like scum who doesn't know what to do with their vote and just leaves it on a possible counter wagon.
Town usually isn't afraid of having their voting patterns checked later so they are more free to move their vote, but you"ve been extremely cautious about it and I don't like it. Especially from a player who snap voted in 3p LyLo.
Like seriously, I don't understand why the kj wagon isn't more popular.
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Town usually isn't afraid of having their voting patterns checked later so they are more free to move their vote, but you"ve been extremely cautious about it and I don't like it. Especially from a player who snap voted in 3p LyLo.
I don't get this point or how it's relevant to his alignment. Isn't the snapvote in LyLo thing a point towards explaining why he's being more cautious now?
Town usually isn't afraid of having their voting patterns checked later so they are more free to move their vote, but you"ve been extremely cautious about it and I don't like it. Especially from a player who snap voted in 3p LyLo.
Town usually isn't afraid of having their voting patterns checked later so they are more free to move their vote, but you"ve been extremely cautious about it and I don't like it. Especially from a player who snap voted in 3p LyLo.
What game are you referring to with this?
Wait, how am I scum, and Tom town? You literally said that 2248 was the tipping point, but you apperently didn't read it because I answered this in it?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
First "read" he gives is grape town, but he fairly quickly goes from there to grape/kj scummiest but not together, and then adds kcc and focuses on that pretty much exclusively for awhile.
He does claim to iso everyone here. Saying megs "lacks substance"
Points against osi not knowing about the claim for action purposes
When grape claims he abandons the read completely and only cares its confirmable.
This is where he begins trying to counterwagon me and (as i remembered) its entirely role related/setupgaming.
I already know this transitions into trying to policy lynch me and gross speculation about game bastardness that all just seems like an excuse since he skipped the whole "actually scumreading me" thing and abandoned his actual scumreads for it.
Hard for me to see it as anything but needing to lynch me
Overall i think my biggest issue (besides kitchen sinking to get me killed, which is technically in his townrange) is that while theres a lot of words about everything, all reads are based on singular things.
Like, grape claimed and the role is confirmable so ignore all i said before. Tom and cantrip are both vigs cant both be town (unless convenient). Kcc bussed. Megs slot didnt do anything.
Theyre all one note no matter how much he harps on them. Kcc push is the worst for this its literally just saying wolfy with no explanation til moving on when noone bites
Theres a fair amount of scum motivation to his d2 posting if kj is also a wolf. Came to grape/kj but not both and then found ways to push elsewhere. A bit less so if kj is town but he still went away from grape in favor of kcc then me.
Can definitely see scum osi playing this "distancing but still powerwolfing" game.
Theres a fair amount less substance than i thought i guess proof by verbosity works *on* me too, not just for me...
Would vote here too tbh. Not sold on a kj/osi team atm, but theyve got individual scum equity
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
We could lynch Osie, and have KJ target Cantrip and Cantrip Target Tom. Thinking...
Popping in for a moment to say that I think any plan that tries to coordinate night actions, especially concerning my ability, is a bad one, for multiple reasons, but if we don't lunch KJ, I support him using his one-shot on me toNight (and having that be public info so that no one wastes other abilities on me).
I feel like I'm holding the thread hostage a little. I don't have the posts marked to back this up, but it felt to me like Az was trying to push KJ without committing while simultaneously going on record as not really wanting to lunch him. I also feel like he gave one-shot "reads" on both Grape and KJ, then stuck them both near the top of his T/S list, and I don't think he'd do that with TWO buddies. I know there was more, but that's a lot of my (probably really bad) reasons for thinking KJ isn't scum.
I don't quite know what to make of this 3-way Tom/KJ/Osie wagon situation. Osie feels like he's flopping between the other two wagons, but everyone else feels super content to just park their votes, which is...weird.
From my perspective, lunching Tom has a good chance of hitting scum, and even if he flips town, it'll confirm the presence of a redirect ability that's almost certainly from scum.
I don't know, though. I really need to take the time to play the game, and I suddenly just don't have time. This weekend is going to be PACKED, and next week probably isn't going to be much better. So I'll do what I can when I can, and my apologies for any frustrations.
Wait, how am I scum, and Tom town? You literally said that 2248 was the tipping point, but you apperently didn't read it because I answered this in it?
What even is going on here?
2848, not 2248. I was talking about tom's posts. You were never really not in the POE.
Town usually isn't afraid of having their voting patterns checked later so they are more free to move their vote, but you"ve been extremely cautious about it and I don't like it. Especially from a player who snap voted in 3p LyLo.
What game are you referring to with this?
NVM, after ISOing Killjoy due to his confusing as heck #2865, I see that Chris likely mentioned it as Death in the Family in #1889.
We honestly just might have to kill KJ here regardless of his alignment. We are going to lose if he’s town and makes it to endgame. He can’t be cop checked, and depending on Cantrip’s role/specifications, he might not even be viggable.
I think in the end I kinda agree here in a sense. Not the "regardless of alignment" element, but Killjoy is a necessary lynch. I'm not sure what the follow-up is... Sir Chris?
Did the whole scum team connect themselves awkwardly together?
I sincerely don't know what loony toons world you live in if grape/kj is scum I am suddenly scum with them.
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I sincerely don't know what loony toons world you live in if grape/kj is scum I am suddenly scum with them.
I don't know. I think you're a possibility based on your positioning on them, and others have expressed this even more so, but I also think that it's too easy.
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So just looking at chris through pushes and it doesnt look like either alignment...
Hes not this wrong as either alignment. Too good as town and bussy as scum
So you can pretty much just narrow it down to town that had a pretty bad couple of days there... or scum deciding to powerwolf and having it go hilariously wrong.
Clearly both possible, moving on
The bit that i feel should be more conclusive is the wifom posts.
Started before az flipped. Making multiple posts about how, if az is scum, why am i the only one defending him. And speculating that if hes wrong az was being bussed.
Kicked into wifom gear day 2
>Az didnt play well enough for me not to bus him
>If i didnt know i was town id kill me
>You dont think scumme would have seen the sinking ship?
...
My conclusion here is that if chris is powerwolfing scum his posts are hilarious in retrospect which makes this game more fun if he is.
Would be a (dare i say) tom-like scum performance.
It will be a bit sad, in retrospect, if all the remaining scum are squarely contained in Tom/Osie/Killjoy/Chris, and the going around in circles is more or less wasting time trying to be unnecessarily perfect.
But if there is a scum not in there, we could actually end up in trouble.
I am very paranoid.
From a practical standpoint, is it possible maybe we should not lynch Tom today? On the grounds that, if scum, he's done his thing already and almost has to be vanilla at this point, whereas other scum could still have abilities to mess with us? Like, Osie could just be straight up lying with how he claimed he used his ability.
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From a practical standpoint, is it possible maybe we should not lynch Tom today? On the grounds that, if scum, he's done his thing already and almost has to be vanilla at this point, whereas other scum could still have abilities to mess with us? Like, Osie could just be straight up lying with how he claimed he used his ability.
This is a good point about Tom. As for Osie, maybe, though claiming that watch result is risky if he doesn't have it
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hmm I dont know what to add to this game state
so I just poke at posts on this page that I dont agree with
@Axelrod
I am hoping that at least one wolf isnt in that grouping, so this game becomes interesting again, I think all this focus on the same people with no lynch as of yet is what's bogging me down
We could lynch Osie, and have KJ target Cantrip and Cantrip Target Tom. Thinking...
I mean, what's to stop cantrip from being killed tonight if Killjoy does, in fact, asceticize (is this even a word) him? its just going to lead to wifom
nothing Chris has done is out of his scum range, and I don't even believe that the associations he has with Grape are even as good as he seems to believe
Killjoy hasn't made any hard pushes, most of his posts are just commentary, and analysis that could easily be faked, so ya he will always be a good lynch, but #2854 is just a garbage excuse to vote anyone
also, Tom's posts are nice
Vote pattern is a bad reason, sure you can probably pull statistics out of somewhere that prove wolves vote less, but Ive seen a lot of town on this site hold their votes, including the likes of Tubba, don't know if necessarily means that killjoy as a wolf, I think its more likely that people who throw their votes around are +town, but I don't think it works vice versa, that's just my two cents
if Killjoy is scum, I think I've expressed that it's unlikely that Chris is the last wolf with him based on his play last day phase
to be more clear, if Killjoy is town, I still highly suspect Chris is a wolf based on his play yesterday
I think the effort that Osie went into to call me out on my tom read was a lot of effort, now is it wolf or town effort?
Creating the hypothetical that Osie/Killjoy is a team probably the closet we will get to it ever being a thing, because in that world, wolf!Osie who is hard tunneling Tom for reasons he believes to be correct, just gives up after a few good posts from Tom and votes killjoy his partner? if killjoy is a wolf, this re-evaluation is more likely to come from town!Osie, if killjoy is town, idk, Osie's flipflopping on Tom looks bad in a bubble, if Tom is mechanically caught then no amount of analytical posts should change that, which is why I am still struggling on that slot
I think Killjoy's explanation of his reasoning on why he would of targeted Grape if he did not die, is really sufficient
and I feel like there is less of an agenda coming from him than there is Osie
From a practical standpoint, is it possible maybe we should not lynch Tom today? On the grounds that, if scum, he's done his thing already and almost has to be vanilla at this point, whereas other scum could still have abilities to mess with us? Like, Osie could just be straight up lying with how he claimed he used his ability.
I would be a bit surprised if Osi is scum because day 2 was a very strange day if Osi is scum.
Guess we'll see what my years of mafia experience are worth shortly.
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Still strongly in favor of KJ btw, His using his mess up at final 3 to cover for his play here is extremely scummy. Also I have no way to check him at night which annoys me.
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If people want me lynched, I'm fine with voting myself right now since it seems like there's not likely any discussion actually happening about Killjoy, tom, Chris or others, just "Oh, they could be scum."
My thought change on tom has very little to do with level of work or analysis, and a lot to do with perspective focus. Wolf!tom doesn't analyze people more than anyone else in the thread. Killjoy's been OMGUSy in his questions on top of his superficiality.
This post probably doesn't mean anything to anyone, but take a close look at Axel, KCC, and Shadow, since I highly doubt that town fragments off like that. Last's vote also isn't great, but Last is just Zero-Escape-level Last this game anyways, so whatever.
I'll give it an hour and then vote myself if votes haven't moved off of me.
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How does self voting help your win condition, Osie?
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If people want me lynched, I'm fine with voting myself right now since it seems like there's not likely any discussion actually happening about Killjoy, tom, Chris or others, just "Oh, they could be scum."
My thought change on tom has very little to do with level of work or analysis, and a lot to do with perspective focus. Wolf!tom doesn't analyze people more than anyone else in the thread. Killjoy's been OMGUSy in his questions on top of his superficiality.
This post probably doesn't mean anything to anyone, but take a close look at Axel, KCC, and Shadow, since I highly doubt that town fragments off like that. Last's vote also isn't great, but Last is just Zero-Escape-level Last this game anyways, so whatever.
I'll give it an hour and then vote myself if votes haven't moved off of me.
vote osie
I'd otherwise miss the one hour deadline and I want my ability goddamn it.
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If people want me lynched, I'm fine with voting myself right now since it seems like there's not likely any discussion actually happening about Killjoy, tom, Chris or others, just "Oh, they could be scum."
My thought change on tom has very little to do with level of work or analysis, and a lot to do with perspective focus. Wolf!tom doesn't analyze people more than anyone else in the thread. Killjoy's been OMGUSy in his questions on top of his superficiality.
This post probably doesn't mean anything to anyone, but take a close look at Axel, KCC, and Shadow, since I highly doubt that town fragments off like that. Last's vote also isn't great, but Last is just Zero-Escape-level Last this game anyways, so whatever.
I'll give it an hour and then vote myself if votes haven't moved off of me.
vote osie
I'd otherwise miss the one hour deadline and I want my ability goddamn it.
How does self voting help your win condition, Osie?
The threat of self-voting gives reactions. Vezok's was a reasonable thought process, and Last is just Last and throwing his vote out without thinking, so scum after Killjoy is likely between Axel/KCC/Shadow.
I will miss you, Osie. I don't understand you, but thank you for defending me when I needed it.
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I am definitely interested in solving shadow’s/KCC’s questionable vote positions.
I’d be very surprised if Axel is scum. The whole “surely tom is vanilla now because he used his only ability” thing worried me a bit, but that’s about it.
I will miss you, Osie. I don't understand you, but thank you for defending me when I needed it.
Chris, explain to me what exactly is going through your head please.
"Osie is very likely town who came into the thread day 2 and champed me. I appreciate that."
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Feel free to read my rationale for not targeting anyone. Trying to say that retroactively my ability would have been a good idea isn't helpful.
And I have been voting. I don't think I ever vote a lot in a game, actually. But I don't avoid voting.
One vote on Az in RVS. Switched to shadow sometime day 1 and hammered Az when it was a done deal.
You voted Last day 2 and didn't move your vote at all.
And you voted tom day 3 and have not moved at all.
For me this seems like scum who doesn't know what to do with their vote and just leaves it on a possible counter wagon.
Town usually isn't afraid of having their voting patterns checked later so they are more free to move their vote, but you"ve been extremely cautious about it and I don't like it. Especially from a player who snap voted in 3p LyLo.
Like seriously, I don't understand why the kj wagon isn't more popular.
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The last page, in particular 2848, did it for me. I'm no longer convinced that tom is scum (even if I still don't like his playstyle).
Any chance that is related to this:
Nah, I read that after I posted anyways, and even if I had read it beforehand, people have been throwing an Osie lynch out there for a while now.
What game are you referring to with this?
What even is going on here?
First "read" he gives is grape town, but he fairly quickly goes from there to grape/kj scummiest but not together, and then adds kcc and focuses on that pretty much exclusively for awhile.
He does claim to iso everyone here. Saying megs "lacks substance"
Points against osi not knowing about the claim for action purposes
When grape claims he abandons the read completely and only cares its confirmable.
This is where he begins trying to counterwagon me and (as i remembered) its entirely role related/setupgaming.
I already know this transitions into trying to policy lynch me and gross speculation about game bastardness that all just seems like an excuse since he skipped the whole "actually scumreading me" thing and abandoned his actual scumreads for it.
Hard for me to see it as anything but needing to lynch me
Overall i think my biggest issue (besides kitchen sinking to get me killed, which is technically in his townrange) is that while theres a lot of words about everything, all reads are based on singular things.
Like, grape claimed and the role is confirmable so ignore all i said before. Tom and cantrip are both vigs cant both be town (unless convenient). Kcc bussed. Megs slot didnt do anything.
Theyre all one note no matter how much he harps on them. Kcc push is the worst for this its literally just saying wolfy with no explanation til moving on when noone bites
Theres a fair amount of scum motivation to his d2 posting if kj is also a wolf. Came to grape/kj but not both and then found ways to push elsewhere. A bit less so if kj is town but he still went away from grape in favor of kcc then me.
Can definitely see scum osi playing this "distancing but still powerwolfing" game.
Theres a fair amount less substance than i thought i guess proof by verbosity works *on* me too, not just for me...
Would vote here too tbh. Not sold on a kj/osi team atm, but theyve got individual scum equity
But i havent seen anything pointing to it and think vaimes is town for az interactions
I feel like I'm holding the thread hostage a little. I don't have the posts marked to back this up, but it felt to me like Az was trying to push KJ without committing while simultaneously going on record as not really wanting to lunch him. I also feel like he gave one-shot "reads" on both Grape and KJ, then stuck them both near the top of his T/S list, and I don't think he'd do that with TWO buddies. I know there was more, but that's a lot of my (probably really bad) reasons for thinking KJ isn't scum.
I don't quite know what to make of this 3-way Tom/KJ/Osie wagon situation. Osie feels like he's flopping between the other two wagons, but everyone else feels super content to just park their votes, which is...weird.
From my perspective, lunching Tom has a good chance of hitting scum, and even if he flips town, it'll confirm the presence of a redirect ability that's almost certainly from scum.
I don't know, though. I really need to take the time to play the game, and I suddenly just don't have time. This weekend is going to be PACKED, and next week probably isn't going to be much better. So I'll do what I can when I can, and my apologies for any frustrations.
2848, not 2248. I was talking about tom's posts. You were never really not in the POE.
NVM, after ISOing Killjoy due to his confusing as heck #2865, I see that Chris likely mentioned it as Death in the Family in #1889.
I think in the end I kinda agree here in a sense. Not the "regardless of alignment" element, but Killjoy is a necessary lynch. I'm not sure what the follow-up is... Sir Chris?
Did the whole scum team connect themselves awkwardly together?
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I don't know. I think you're a possibility based on your positioning on them, and others have expressed this even more so, but I also think that it's too easy.
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Hes not this wrong as either alignment. Too good as town and bussy as scum
So you can pretty much just narrow it down to town that had a pretty bad couple of days there... or scum deciding to powerwolf and having it go hilariously wrong.
Clearly both possible, moving on
The bit that i feel should be more conclusive is the wifom posts.
Started before az flipped. Making multiple posts about how, if az is scum, why am i the only one defending him. And speculating that if hes wrong az was being bussed.
Kicked into wifom gear day 2
>Az didnt play well enough for me not to bus him
>If i didnt know i was town id kill me
>You dont think scumme would have seen the sinking ship?
...
My conclusion here is that if chris is powerwolfing scum his posts are hilarious in retrospect which makes this game more fun if he is.
Would be a (dare i say) tom-like scum performance.
But if there is a scum not in there, we could actually end up in trouble.
I am very paranoid.
From a practical standpoint, is it possible maybe we should not lynch Tom today? On the grounds that, if scum, he's done his thing already and almost has to be vanilla at this point, whereas other scum could still have abilities to mess with us? Like, Osie could just be straight up lying with how he claimed he used his ability.
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Killjoy (4): tomsloger, Sir Chris, vezokpiraka, osieorb18
tomsloger (3): Vaimes, Killjoy, Cantripmancer
osieorb18 (3): Axelrod, KittyCupCake, shadowlancerx
Abstain (1): Lastwhisper
With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
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vote osi
so I just poke at posts on this page that I dont agree with
@Axelrod
I am hoping that at least one wolf isnt in that grouping, so this game becomes interesting again, I think all this focus on the same people with no lynch as of yet is what's bogging me down
@Osie
so what happened to Occam's razor, hmm?
I mean, what's to stop cantrip from being killed tonight if Killjoy does, in fact, asceticize (is this even a word) him? its just going to lead to wifom
nothing Chris has done is out of his scum range, and I don't even believe that the associations he has with Grape are even as good as he seems to believe
Killjoy hasn't made any hard pushes, most of his posts are just commentary, and analysis that could easily be faked, so ya he will always be a good lynch, but #2854 is just a garbage excuse to vote anyone
also, Tom's posts are nice
Vote pattern is a bad reason, sure you can probably pull statistics out of somewhere that prove wolves vote less, but Ive seen a lot of town on this site hold their votes, including the likes of Tubba, don't know if necessarily means that killjoy as a wolf, I think its more likely that people who throw their votes around are +town, but I don't think it works vice versa, that's just my two cents
if Killjoy is scum, I think I've expressed that it's unlikely that Chris is the last wolf with him based on his play last day phase
to be more clear, if Killjoy is town, I still highly suspect Chris is a wolf based on his play yesterday
I think the effort that Osie went into to call me out on my tom read was a lot of effort, now is it wolf or town effort?
Creating the hypothetical that Osie/Killjoy is a team probably the closet we will get to it ever being a thing, because in that world, wolf!Osie who is hard tunneling Tom for reasons he believes to be correct, just gives up after a few good posts from Tom and votes killjoy his partner? if killjoy is a wolf, this re-evaluation is more likely to come from town!Osie, if killjoy is town, idk, Osie's flipflopping on Tom looks bad in a bubble, if Tom is mechanically caught then no amount of analytical posts should change that, which is why I am still struggling on that slot
and I feel like there is less of an agenda coming from him than there is Osie
vote: Osie
Tell me when you think we should end the day or you are going to vote scum KJ.
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Guess we'll see what my years of mafia experience are worth shortly.
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My thought change on tom has very little to do with level of work or analysis, and a lot to do with perspective focus. Wolf!tom doesn't analyze people more than anyone else in the thread. Killjoy's been OMGUSy in his questions on top of his superficiality.
This post probably doesn't mean anything to anyone, but take a close look at Axel, KCC, and Shadow, since I highly doubt that town fragments off like that. Last's vote also isn't great, but Last is just Zero-Escape-level Last this game anyways, so whatever.
I'll give it an hour and then vote myself if votes haven't moved off of me.
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vote osie
I'd otherwise miss the one hour deadline and I want my ability goddamn it.
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Congrats, you got a town lynch!
My role and actions are exactly as claimed.
The threat of self-voting gives reactions. Vezok's was a reasonable thought process, and Last is just Last and throwing his vote out without thinking, so scum after Killjoy is likely between Axel/KCC/Shadow.
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:disgust:
The next time you want to waste your time, don’t make us collateral damage.
You didn't have to leave your vote on someone objectively townier than Killjoy.
I’d be very surprised if Axel is scum. The whole “surely tom is vanilla now because he used his only ability” thing worried me a bit, but that’s about it.
"Osie is very likely town who came into the thread day 2 and champed me. I appreciate that."
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