If you don’t really believe wisps role, then you shouldn’t believe there is a role blocker blocking him.
[b] vote grapefruit[\b]
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My point is that either:
Wisp is telling the truth and once the RB is dead he clears himself
or
Wisp is lying and is scum
The risk vs reward on killing someone who could clear themselves eventually is wrong. I don't really believe him and have him at above random to be scum but not by enough that I'm going to ignore his role toDay.
It isn't inconceivable that Wisp is the roleblocker.
There are reasons to not lunch him, like the fact that he claimed way early and probably actually isn't lying, but if you don't believe the claim I'd be hard pushing him.
I'm not hard pushing anything yet. I may wind up back on him. The strength of my disbelief isn't so strong that it overrides the fact that if I'm wrong he can be cleared mechanically.
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@Cantrip, how do you think I felt? I didn't even start with a faction.
@tom, is your character some sort of Marilyn Monroe type? Because I am pretty sure that's the only way I will read it after your "big brute" comment lol
@Silver, please don't do what Last did in GoT.
@GF, why do you think people haven't been reading you as towny lately?
Is rule of 5 a thing? I'd guess exactly 1 buddy is included in this scattershot. Rhand>>Cantrip~=Shadow would be my guess.
Agreeing with Silver that Tubba looks pretty great from the interactions.
@grape
Doubt, u are so focused on Rhand, I've already pointed out that some interactions make Rhand/grr unlikely
Tell me why shadow looks bad?
I found them completely lacking in persuasion. Giving a read based on mechanical speculation (which is the strongest thing you pointed to) is the exact easiest type of read to fake on a buddy.
As for why Shadow looks bad take a look at 331. I think it's very likely that 1 of Will, Shadow, or Rhand is a buddy. I obviously have Rhand as most likely but it's also a weird defense of Shadow.
I found them completely lacking in persuasion. Giving a read based on mechanical speculation (which is the strongest thing you pointed to) is the exact easiest type of read to fake on a buddy.
As for why Shadow looks bad take a look at 331. I think it's very likely that 1 of Will, Shadow, or Rhand is a buddy. I obviously have Rhand as most likely but it's also a weird defense of Shadow.
And no, at this point I'm probably just going to advocate for a Lynch on you, since I've already taken back my meta read of shin, and your slot has done nothing since
And no, at this point I'm probably just going to advocate for a Lynch on you, since I've already taken back my meta read of shin, and your slot has done nothing since
And no, at this point I'm probably just going to advocate for a Lynch on you, since I've already taken back my meta read of shin, and your slot has done nothing since
So now tell me what the slip is
No.
cause posts like this save no one, u can pretend not to care, or you can point us to the slip, so we can give our thoughts on it, or you are just total bull*****
I don't see why you wouldn't if you were town actively trying to find wolves
Because engaging with you when you're behaving like this is a chore.
When someone wants to have a nice reasonable discussion, I'll cooperate.
behaving like what, I'm asking you to explain the slip, and now your backpedaling, do you want me to praise behavior that does nothing for this dead game state, or do you wanna point us to something that will invoke conversation
I found them completely lacking in persuasion. Giving a read based on mechanical speculation (which is the strongest thing you pointed to) is the exact easiest type of read to fake on a buddy.
As for why Shadow looks bad take a look at 331. I think it's very likely that 1 of Will, Shadow, or Rhand is a buddy. I obviously have Rhand as most likely but it's also a weird defense of Shadow.
Other than Rodemy do you have any other wolf reads?
Also, I skimmed Rodemy's posts on page 20 and nothing really jumped out at me other than him talking about a roleblocker a lot. Hopefully it's something better than that because if that's the slip I'm... underwhelmed.
In other news, I think Vaimes is a villager. Probably my PoE is wrong unless it's exactly shadow/Cantrip or something. While I'm thinking about that...
The perfect quote from Chris
"I know how to push my wolf buddies without them getting lynched" also let's be honest, and also let me quote Tom, "don't think im every lynching top posting silver today"
I'm still holding strong to that view, but I don't honestly think you have to be town, your pushes have been lack luster overall
I think I am taking Rhand vs Chris in that war. That is partially due to Chris's bombast and overall pomposity.
Also...
Vote Tubba
I liked Rhand's catch on the RB/JK post. That is such a weirdly specific comment to make, early on in a game, and not considering whether it was scum or town before outing feels off.
I think I am taking Rhand vs Chris in that war. That is partially due to Chris's bombast and overall pomposity.
Also...
Vote Tubba
I liked Rhand's catch on the RB/JK post. That is such a weirdly specific comment to make, early on in a game, and not considering whether it was scum or town before outing feels off.
@Shin, so... was your Tom vote RVS or not?
You honestly think I should have a locked in alignment read on a tinfoil theory? On page 2? Yecch.
Locked in a read? No. But why out that then?
@Tom, funny, you vote me for "blowing my load"... yet don't call out Tubba for the RB comment?
So, Tom, Shadow, Chris scum team? *shrug* Eh, probably not that easy.
Tubba isn't even on his scumteam.
Shadow and Chris are though.
Which tbh i think clears them.
Maybe chris more than shadow tbh.
Because of chrises tenacity towards silver becaaause
Silver.
*is deliberately not pushing LnGrrr while voting him*
That was his entire stance towards Grr yesterDay.
Top that with Grr's weird specificities towards him with abo****ley no resolve (asking him why he thought nobody wanted to lynch Ruma for example. It felt very forced and beneficial to solidifying Silver as a townie. Kind of helpful in a way. It didn't feel self serving or specifically alignment hunting)
Grr also BARELY interacted with him besides that one question. He said something to him in RVS, @'d him once and then mentioned tubbas reply to his question. I feel like that is distancing. Silver was very talkative D1. So to barely touch him sounds like he was playing it safe. That's my theory with what little i can gather from Grr's iso (a whole TWO pages)
Vote silver
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Tho: Shadow and Chris are though.
Which tbh i think clears them.
Reads like this aren't strong, there's way too much wine from would he or would he not put a wolf in his scum team, so I usually don't take those into any account when looking for interactions
Okay, I'm just going to put this to bed because the paranoia surrounding me for not... I don't even know what you expected me to do, push someone strongly when that isn't a thing I do without solid evidence that LnG didn't leave behind?
Anyway, I'm a JoAT and I had a 1-shot watch that I used on Chris last night.
Not claiming results unless someone really wants them because it gives wolves more info than I think they should have but if a bunch of people want them, I will. Gonna keep my other two abilities under wraps but they aren't that strong and I thought Chris would be the kill.
Ok holy ***** getting flashbacks. Scum claimed watcher on me day 2 in a game and also didnt reveal info.
Fully claim. Scum is down. Now is when town pounces.
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Ok holy ***** getting flashbacks. Scum claimed watcher on me day 2 in a game and also didnt reveal info.
Fully claim. Scum is down. Now is when town pounces.
Gonna need more than just your say so, sorry. The other two abilities are provable but I'd rather not claim them yet since as of right now they have to pick between letting my role be confirmed or Wisp's, which is ~fine especially if they shoot me and roleblock him.
Okay, I'm just going to put this to bed because the paranoia surrounding me for not... I don't even know what you expected me to do, push someone strongly when that isn't a thing I do without solid evidence that LnG didn't leave behind?
Anyway, I'm a JoAT and I had a 1-shot watch that I used on Chris last night.
Not claiming results unless someone really wants them because it gives wolves more info than I think they should have but if a bunch of people want them, I will. Gonna keep my other two abilities under wraps but they aren't that strong and I thought Chris would be the kill.
Oof. Didn’t target the only claimed PR. Not lookin good buddy.
Sorry having trouble sleeping
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Really thought Chris would be the kill if it wasn't me, and if it was me it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
Also thought there was okay odds I'd be roleblocked over Wisp anyway since I actually crumbed to Chris that I had a role when he was pushing me earlier when I said he couldn't get me lunched.
Wasn't super sure how to handle him just blowing past it when he did but I still think he's a villager and my PoE is probably wrong.
Really thought Chris would be the kill if it wasn't me, and if it was me it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
Also thought there was okay odds I'd be roleblocked over Wisp anyway since I actually crumbed to Chris that I had a role when he was pushing me earlier when I said he couldn't get me lunched.
Wasn't super sure how to handle him just blowing past it when he did but I still think he's a villager and my PoE is probably wrong.
C'est la vie.
What in the world made you think Chris was gonna be the kill?
I’m just baffled tbh. You do not make a play like that as town and I think that is obvious.
You watch the only claimed pr if you thought there was a role blocker, not try and catch the kill. You have a higher chance of catching the RB. Targeting Chris isn’t even townie. It does nothing for town UNLESS he was the kill.
Targeting LW would have provided so much more information, especially if you made your move thinking there was an RB out there.
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I mean, I didn't actually think you'd be roleblocked, either. Your role isn't all that strong all it does is remove you from the PoE and they can't be planning on roleblocking you every night until you get lunched because that's ludicrous.
Why wouldn't the person who was the only one to claim, who has a role that completely removes them from any possibility of being lynched in the case of the person they targeted being town, be roleblocked lmao
Unless there was some insane soft somewhere that I missed, but that's mute because I was roleblocked anyways
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My point is that either:
Wisp is telling the truth and once the RB is dead he clears himself
or
Wisp is lying and is scum
The risk vs reward on killing someone who could clear themselves eventually is wrong. I don't really believe him and have him at above random to be scum but not by enough that I'm going to ignore his role toDay.
It isn't inconceivable that Wisp is the roleblocker.
There are reasons to not lunch him, like the fact that he claimed way early and probably actually isn't lying, but if you don't believe the claim I'd be hard pushing him.
My 2c I guess.
Anyway finally getting to this D1 reread.
Is rule of 5 a thing? I'd guess exactly 1 buddy is included in this scattershot. Rhand>>Cantrip~=Shadow would be my guess.
Agreeing with Silver that Tubba looks pretty great from the interactions.
331 is not a great look for Rhand or Shadow.
Doubt, u are so focused on Rhand, I've already pointed out that some interactions make Rhand/grr unlikely
Tell me why shadow looks bad?
I found them completely lacking in persuasion. Giving a read based on mechanical speculation (which is the strongest thing you pointed to) is the exact easiest type of read to fake on a buddy.
As for why Shadow looks bad take a look at 331. I think it's very likely that 1 of Will, Shadow, or Rhand is a buddy. I obviously have Rhand as most likely but it's also a weird defense of Shadow.
Am I really the only one that saw the scumslip? Like actually?
Also confirms LW is town, which isn't anything mindblowing but still nice.
-checks timestamps-
one minute.
Go get that bread.
Please adjust.
Good compromise/CFD/do-not-pass-endgame lunch.
So now tell me what the slip is
I don't see why you wouldn't if you were town actively trying to find wolves
When someone wants to have a nice reasonable discussion, I'll cooperate.
I could be way worse tbh
The slip is one page further back, on page 20.
Have fun.
I'll look for it after work
Why do you have rhand as least likely?
Other than Rodemy do you have any other wolf reads?
Also, I skimmed Rodemy's posts on page 20 and nothing really jumped out at me other than him talking about a roleblocker a lot. Hopefully it's something better than that because if that's the slip I'm... underwhelmed.
In other news, I think Vaimes is a villager. Probably my PoE is wrong unless it's exactly shadow/Cantrip or something. While I'm thinking about that...
vote: shadowlancerx
No thanks
Cute tinfoil tho, if vaimes isn't a wolf
I was thinking more along the lines of you and Chris
"I know how to push my wolf buddies without them getting lynched" also let's be honest, and also let me quote Tom, "don't think im every lynching top posting silver today"
I'm still holding strong to that view, but I don't honestly think you have to be town, your pushes have been lack luster overall
*Frodo Meme*
It appears i play better as scum than i do town.
Vaimes not pointing it out is sketch. Why would you hide that sort of information?
unvote
I am okay with Grape for now.
Here he votes tubba but in his next post
Tubba isn't even on his scumteam.
Shadow and Chris are though.
Which tbh i think clears them.
Maybe chris more than shadow tbh.
Because of chrises tenacity towards silver becaaause
Silver.
That was his entire stance towards Grr yesterDay.
Top that with Grr's weird specificities towards him with abo****ley no resolve (asking him why he thought nobody wanted to lynch Ruma for example. It felt very forced and beneficial to solidifying Silver as a townie. Kind of helpful in a way. It didn't feel self serving or specifically alignment hunting)
Grr also BARELY interacted with him besides that one question. He said something to him in RVS, @'d him once and then mentioned tubbas reply to his question. I feel like that is distancing. Silver was very talkative D1. So to barely touch him sounds like he was playing it safe. That's my theory with what little i can gather from Grr's iso (a whole TWO pages)
Vote silver
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Best post u made all game
Why do you think LnG wouldn't put a partner in his wolf team at all? The Rule of Three exists (though isn't always accurate of course).
Shadow and Chris are though.
Which tbh i think clears them.
Reads like this aren't strong, there's way too much wine from would he or would he not put a wolf in his scum team, so I usually don't take those into any account when looking for interactions
Anyway, I'm a JoAT and I had a 1-shot watch that I used on Chris last night.
Not claiming results unless someone really wants them because it gives wolves more info than I think they should have but if a bunch of people want them, I will. Gonna keep my other two abilities under wraps but they aren't that strong and I thought Chris would be the kill.
Fully claim. Scum is down. Now is when town pounces.
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*Chris/silver vibes intensify*
For real tho, idk how to react to that claim as of yet, doesn't change much about how I feel, and the lack of full claim isn't helping
And Chris' response definitely isn't helping
Oof. Didn’t target the only claimed PR. Not lookin good buddy.
Sorry having trouble sleeping
But I guess I'm just as bad since I targeted him
To be fair I didn't reread before doing my action lmao
Also thought there was okay odds I'd be roleblocked over Wisp anyway since I actually crumbed to Chris that I had a role when he was pushing me earlier when I said he couldn't get me lunched.
Wasn't super sure how to handle him just blowing past it when he did but I still think he's a villager and my PoE is probably wrong.
C'est la vie.
On another note it feels good to say that to someone else, after people have been doing it to me
Ironic that even with the mishaps in my claim, my claim is still townier than silver's :joy:
What in the world made you think Chris was gonna be the kill?
I’m just baffled tbh. You do not make a play like that as town and I think that is obvious.
You watch the only claimed pr if you thought there was a role blocker, not try and catch the kill. You have a higher chance of catching the RB. Targeting Chris isn’t even townie. It does nothing for town UNLESS he was the kill.
Targeting LW would have provided so much more information, especially if you made your move thinking there was an RB out there.
TLDR; if you think there was an RB, you target the person most likely to get RB’d.
Don’t throw chances at trying to catch the kill.
To be fair if I was a wolf and not with either Tom or Chris, I would kill them 100% of the time
Why wouldn't the person who was the only one to claim, who has a role that completely removes them from any possibility of being lynched in the case of the person they targeted being town, be roleblocked lmao
Unless there was some insane soft somewhere that I missed, but that's mute because I was roleblocked anyways
*Laughs in Portuguese*