and Nobody else is chiming in so that's not my fault.
I'm sorry YOU are triggered but that doesn't mean you get to be a dick to me. You will come across many different types of players. I am actually trying to understand your claim. Trying to switch myself to seeing you as town. But there are just little things that are hard to let go of.
You have to understand it isn't NORMAL for town to throw away an OP PR (like the one you thought you were claiming) just for the sake of MAYBE it will take the RB hit IF there is a roleblocker.
For you to assume i am going to take that situation and go "Oh okay" is not fair at all.
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LnGrrrR (7) - tomsloger (#144), shadowlancerx (#353), Lastwshisper (#487), Sir Chris (#839), Silvercrys3467 (#843), Rodemy (#858), LnGrrrR (#888)
Grapefruit21 (1) - Rhand (#751),
Silvercrys3467 (1) - Tubba Fett (#732)
Sir Chris (1) - Cantripmancer (#818)
Rhand (1) - Grapefruit21 (#880)
Not Voting: Vaimes
THATS A LYNCH! LnGrrrrR was Perry Winkle, Nexus Goon!
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Well. "Soap" might be a stretch. It's more of an improv group that does flash mobs and such. But you're pretty well known in most of all the towns in your state! (Of Rhode Island)
You’ve been trying to make the papers for a while now. Now’s your chance! Money, power, fame… it’s all right at your fingertips!
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Look at Grr's role pm. His Night actions aren't flavored.
You claimed yours were flavored (saying "strike up a conversation"). Can you see where my mind is at?
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yikes and k
you think my play is bad fine, I'm entitled to the same opinion on your play
u can talk about my flavor once you see my flip until then I can't really argue more on the subject without just straight up pasting my role card haha
it isn't NORMAL for a player with probably decades of experience on me to think the way he does
i would expect some level of thinking that isnt straight up level-0, that's what I expect, but clearly I expect too much
If either of you would like to comment on LnGrrr spew or something, feel free. I'm not particularly interested in lunching either of you at the moment and your present arguments fail to sway me.
I'm about to go back and look at the Tubba stuff, so that would be particularly relevant if you want to compare notes or whatever.
If either of you would like to comment on LnGrrr spew or something, feel free. I'm not particularly interested in lunching either of you at the moment and your present arguments fail to sway me.
I'm about to go back and look at the Tubba stuff, so that would be particularly relevant if you want to compare notes or whatever.
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Rereading LnGrrrR's iso, I thought he talked about the Grape meta thing more than he did... it's still a really weird line of questioning if he's doing that to a partner though so, eh? Like, he'd be asking other people about stuff that might get his partner caught, etc. I feel like it was just something safe he had that he could push for a while without having to actually formulate reads if that makes sense.
Also yeah I don't think Tubba is a partner either. Reading the whole push he made there seemed more like him pushing a villager who did something that's "objectively" wolfy rather than something that he actually thought made Tubba a wolf, if that makes sense. This ~might~ be colored by my pre-existing Tubba read but yeah.
Cantrip / shadow still plausible partners though I'm kind of iffy on that ending bit with Cantrip. Not sure I agree with Rhand that it's more likely they're partners there... Hrm.
If either of you would like to comment on LnGrrr spew or something, feel free. I'm not particularly interested in lunching either of you at the moment and your present arguments fail to sway me.
I'm about to go back and look at the Tubba stuff, so that would be particularly relevant if you want to compare notes or whatever.
uhhm ill get back to you on that, from reading page 1 it doesnt sway me either way
also shin is back on the table, apparently I was quite disconnected from this game, more so than I thought
I think I am taking Rhand vs Chris in that war. That is partially due to Chris's bombast and overall pomposity.
Also...
Vote Tubba
I liked Rhand's catch on the RB/JK post. That is such a weirdly specific comment to make, early on in a game, and not considering whether it was scum or town before outing feels off.
@Shin, so... was your Tom vote RVS or not?
dont think Lng gives this kind of read on his partner
rhand is probably town just based off this post
I took a look at the game where I was scum woth Lngrr.
I think you’re right about Grape: Lngrr only interacted with me early game because I forced him to. I think he doesn’t naturally interact with scum partners.
This is a funny accidental scum claim I wouldn't have noticed if I wasn't tunneling Rhand.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
id be disappointed if this is another game where Rodemy is wolf, and so is my brother
i believe my Rhand town read off that small interaction enough Rhand (4) - Silver (#209), vaimes (#299), grape (#300), will (#329) LnGrr (1) - tom (#144)
which means there is probably at least one other wolf on this train, alongside Grr
Rhand (3) - Vaimes (#299), Grapefruit21 (#300), Will-98 (#329)
LnGrrrR (3) - tomsloger (#144), Silvercrys3467 (#348), shadowlancerx (#353)
this movement makes me feel a lot better about Silver and Shadow
im back to square one on Shin, his posts are a lot better than in GoT, less agenda, but there still wasn't much focus on anything in particular, and if Vaimes cant show even an ounce of towniness today, then we probably should just lynch him
this group, Shadow,Me,Silver
shouldn't be voted today, unless substantial reasons come up, we all actively voted and pushed Grr, we can humor the whole wolves going for the bus cover later, not on day 2, especially me and Silver, Silver who has been driving this game, and if he's a deep wolf, he's pretty damn deep right now, and shouldn't be on anyone's radar outside just paranoia
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Shin's thoughts feel more natural
liked his early questions, doesn't feel like he's playing commentary to the thread this game, and doesn't seem to be manipulative
(seems like he got replaced by vaimes though)
probably at least one wolf in between Grr/Rhand, I think Rhand's early pushes on people feel towny (/barn toms early read on Rhand), Grr feels jumpy with his votes, and a lot of his early posts were fluffy, and just commentary and Grape will come in with, "I don't think that read works early game", and I will still say I have a scum lean on Grr
also since Grr wants to continue the Stuttgart memes, First game he started off with the question and was a wolf, second game Rhand started off with the question and was a wolf, and now its Grr again, a coincidence? I think not
vote: Grr
This post is for good in case people still don't believe I am town, idk how you can argue this comes from wolf/wolf
Tubba overall hasn't pushed an agenda, and I don't believe his Jk/RB comment comes from a wolf, even now that I know that a RBer exists, its just the kind of point that puts the spotlight on wolves that they don't want, especially Tubba
Chris is also asking questions, poking at players, and actively moving the game forward, he's also voted all over the place, something I don't see coming from a wolf, over a town just trying to actively pressure people
Rhand had early interactions that I doubt come from wolf/wolf with Grr, also "I bet theres one wolf between Grr/Rhand", How do I do it? idk save the applause for end game
id be disappointed if this is another game where Rodemy is wolf, and so is my brother
i believe my Rhand town read off that small interaction enough Rhand (4) - Silver (#209), vaimes (#299), grape (#300), will (#329) LnGrr (1) - tom (#144)
which means there is probably at least one other wolf on this train, alongside Grr
Where are you on these vote counts?
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why Not shadow toDay? He hasn’t posted at alll. And his d1 is bland
his vote seems less bussy, if we talking about the strength of that list, it would go Me>silver>Shadow
and his thoughts day 1 weren't all bad, he is on v/la which should end today, so I want more before I proceed
the vote counts are from Killjoys iso? I just copy/pasted the sections that stood out
id be disappointed if this is another game where Rodemy is wolf, and so is my brother
i believe my Rhand town read off that small interaction enough Rhand (4) - Silver (#209), vaimes (#299), grape (#300), will (#329)
which means there is probably at least one other wolf on this train, alongside Grr
Where are you on these vote counts?
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there was a mistake in that vote count
so correction, I doubt all 4 people on that train are town if Rhand is town, and since I think Rhand is a miss, at least one is probably scum
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Cantrips interaction with Lng cant easily be faked
Grape's pity party doesn't help me think he is town, tho I believe Silver might be correct with
that read on Grape based on Lng's posts on his meta, just seems like a weird conversation to push in the thread
if they are wolves together
Cantrips interaction with Lng can easily be faked
Grape's pity party doesn't help me think he is town, tho I believe Silver might be correct with
that read on Grape based on Lng's posts on his meta, just seems like a weird conversation to push in the thread
if they are wolves together
I have returned. Pretty tired, but some quick thoughts:
Last v rod is both irritating to read, and seems more likely tvt, not even taking claims into consideration.
I’m kind of not sure why literally no one is talking about Chris today, his position on Lng and pseudo trying to push the lynch anywhere else while also not really defending him is eyebrow raising.
@Shadow
I guess that is another good interpretation of his play this game, referring to Chris
and I'm trying to avoid conversations like the one with Rodemy, but I still cant help myself
I have returned. Pretty tired, but some quick thoughts:
Last v rod is both irritating to read, and seems more likely tvt, not even taking claims into consideration.
I’m kind of not sure why literally no one is talking about Chris today, his position on Lng and pseudo trying to push the lynch anywhere else while also not really defending him is eyebrow raising.
What makes Chris's position on LnG different from mine? I barely talked about him, basically just voted him a few times. In fact at EoD I tried to make counterwagons more than anyone else did, so why Chris instead of me?
I have returned. Pretty tired, but some quick thoughts:
Last v rod is both irritating to read, and seems more likely tvt, not even taking claims into consideration.
I’m kind of not sure why literally no one is talking about Chris today, his position on Lng and pseudo trying to push the lynch anywhere else while also not really defending him is eyebrow raising.
What makes Chris's position on LnG different from mine? I barely talked about him, basically just voted him a few times. In fact at EoD I tried to make counterwagons more than anyone else did, so why Chris instead of me?
Here is a fun take: why would I push a counterwagon on Chris when grr was about to be lynched? If you think Chris is scum... and I am scum... you are wrong.
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I honestly hate #1037 with a passion and the chances of him flipping wolf after that post just skyrocketed
Rodemy has a good point, if he did actually vote Chris at that point, would have to look back
Rodemy/Chris/Lng
is super unlikely for the reason he just defined
I honestly hate #1037 with a passion and the chances of him flipping wolf after that post just skyrocketed
Rodemy has a good point, if he did actually vote Chris at that point, would have to look back
Rodemy/Chris/Lng
is super unlikely for the reason he just defined
would be if thats true*
gotta watch out for those contradictions kek
@Rod I really don't believe Wisp's role is true but the risk/reward is out of whack if we're wrong and it is. The second we find and kill the RB he can clear himself if it's true. But for now I'm not touching him even though I have these niggling doubts in the back of my mind.
I honestly hate #1037 with a passion and the chances of him flipping wolf after that post just skyrocketed
Rodemy has a good point, if he did actually vote Chris at that point, would have to look back
Rodemy/Chris/Lng
is super unlikely for the reason he just defined
So I'm a wolf because I pointed out that I look worse after LnGrrr's flip than Chris did so I could ask shadow why he thinks Chris is a wolf and I'm not?
Also, you seem to have misplaced your vote if you actually think I'm a wolf. This is getting pretty old, though. If you have paranoia about me that's fine, but mud slinging isn't "it," chief.
The people I actually want to talk to / about are posting much more slowly than either of us so I'm just drive by commenting until they come back.
@Rodemy: Please go read LnG's iso and tell me why he said the stuff he said to/about his partner, Grape.
and Nobody else is chiming in so that's not my fault.
I'm sorry YOU are triggered but that doesn't mean you get to be a dick to me. You will come across many different types of players. I am actually trying to understand your claim. Trying to switch myself to seeing you as town. But there are just little things that are hard to let go of.
You have to understand it isn't NORMAL for town to throw away an OP PR (like the one you thought you were claiming) just for the sake of MAYBE it will take the RB hit IF there is a roleblocker.
For you to assume i am going to take that situation and go "Oh okay" is not fair at all.
Look at Grr's role pm. His Night actions aren't flavored.
You claimed yours were flavored (saying "strike up a conversation"). Can you see where my mind is at?
you think my play is bad fine, I'm entitled to the same opinion on your play
u can talk about my flavor once you see my flip until then I can't really argue more on the subject without just straight up pasting my role card haha
it isn't NORMAL for a player with probably decades of experience on me to think the way he does
i would expect some level of thinking that isnt straight up level-0, that's what I expect, but clearly I expect too much
Quit getting all hissy and just breathe
I'm about to go back and look at the Tubba stuff, so that would be particularly relevant if you want to compare notes or whatever.
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Also yeah I don't think Tubba is a partner either. Reading the whole push he made there seemed more like him pushing a villager who did something that's "objectively" wolfy rather than something that he actually thought made Tubba a wolf, if that makes sense. This ~might~ be colored by my pre-existing Tubba read but yeah.
Cantrip / shadow still plausible partners though I'm kind of iffy on that ending bit with Cantrip. Not sure I agree with Rhand that it's more likely they're partners there... Hrm.
also shin is back on the table, apparently I was quite disconnected from this game, more so than I thought
vote: Vaimes
also, I am not getting this "Newbie feel" from Wills posts, so idk what you are seeing? just a lot of coasting, same as with Grr
rhand is probably town just based off this post
*makes screeching noises*
Silver talked about it but Cantrip looks bad based on the flip.
Anyway working on my catchup now.
This is a funny accidental scum claim I wouldn't have noticed if I wasn't tunneling Rhand.
Vote count will come when I'm at a computer
Definitely not seeing scum Rod in this exchange fwiw. This feels like his town game I remember.
Going to go ISO LnG again in a bit.
i want more day 2 content
#339
from Will is really pure, idk
nothing is super pinging me atm
i believe my Rhand town read off that small interaction enough
Rhand (4) - Silver (#209), vaimes (#299), grape (#300), will (#329) LnGrr (1) - tom (#144)
which means there is probably at least one other wolf on this train, alongside Grr
LnGrrrR (3) - tomsloger (#144), Silvercrys3467 (#348), shadowlancerx (#353)
this movement makes me feel a lot better about Silver and Shadow
Shadow,Me,Silver
shouldn't be voted today, unless substantial reasons come up, we all actively voted and pushed Grr, we can humor the whole wolves going for the bus cover later, not on day 2, especially me and Silver, Silver who has been driving this game, and if he's a deep wolf, he's pretty damn deep right now, and shouldn't be on anyone's radar outside just paranoia
This post is for good in case people still don't believe I am town, idk how you can argue this comes from wolf/wolf
Tubba overall hasn't pushed an agenda, and I don't believe his Jk/RB comment comes from a wolf, even now that I know that a RBer exists, its just the kind of point that puts the spotlight on wolves that they don't want, especially Tubba
Chris is also asking questions, poking at players, and actively moving the game forward, he's also voted all over the place, something I don't see coming from a wolf, over a town just trying to actively pressure people
Rhand had early interactions that I doubt come from wolf/wolf with Grr, also "I bet theres one wolf between Grr/Rhand", How do I do it? idk save the applause for end game
1. Vaimes Shinichi
2. Cantripmancer
3. Grapefruit21
4. RodemyWill-98
My lynch list today would probably be in the above, and honestly im pretty sure its exactly the same as Silver's
if there is a deep wolf here, then Im more inclined to believe it is Silver over anyone else
Im hoping for more from Shadow soon
Where are you on these vote counts?
and his thoughts day 1 weren't all bad, he is on v/la which should end today, so I want more before I proceed
the vote counts are from Killjoys iso? I just copy/pasted the sections that stood out
EDWOP
there was a mistake in that vote count
so correction, I doubt all 4 people on that train are town if Rhand is town, and since I think Rhand is a miss, at least one is probably scum
Vaimes (2) - Silvercrys3467 (#907), Lastwhisper (#1011)
Cantripmancer (1) - Rhand (#905)
Lastwhisper (1) - Rodemy (#955)
Not Voting: shadowlancerx, Cantripmancer, Sir Chris, Tubba Fett, Vaimes, Grapefruit21
Grape's pity party doesn't help me think he is town, tho I believe Silver might be correct with
that read on Grape based on Lng's posts on his meta, just seems like a weird conversation to push in the thread
if they are wolves together
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V/LA until Monday, hopefully Monday during the day, otherwise Monday night.
Last v rod is both irritating to read, and seems more likely tvt, not even taking claims into consideration.
I’m kind of not sure why literally no one is talking about Chris today, his position on Lng and pseudo trying to push the lynch anywhere else while also not really defending him is eyebrow raising.
I guess that is another good interpretation of his play this game, referring to Chris
and I'm trying to avoid conversations like the one with Rodemy, but I still cant help myself
Shadow is... back and pushing a Chris lynch. Interesting.
Tell me what about his push on grr is Psuedo, shadow?
Here is a fun take: why would I push a counterwagon on Chris when grr was about to be lynched? If you think Chris is scum... and I am scum... you are wrong.
Hell no. Scum would have bussed the ***** out of him
Rodemy has a good point, if he did actually vote Chris at that point, would have to look back
Rodemy/Chris/Lng
is super unlikely for the reason he just defined
gotta watch out for those contradictions kek
If you don’t really believe wisps role, then you shouldn’t believe there is a role blocker blocking him.
[b] vote grapefruit[\b]
Also, you seem to have misplaced your vote if you actually think I'm a wolf. This is getting pretty old, though. If you have paranoia about me that's fine, but mud slinging isn't "it," chief.
The people I actually want to talk to / about are posting much more slowly than either of us so I'm just drive by commenting until they come back.
@Rodemy: Please go read LnG's iso and tell me why he said the stuff he said to/about his partner, Grape.