While at least 50% of the starting players are alive:
That player’s actions (including factional) cannot be interfered with (they can be observed, but not stopped, redirected, or prevented; killing abilities will not pierce protection), and they have two votes the following day.
I am not really a jailer in concept. If Shini read my role correctly, he would know that tom would only have been roleblocked IF he was actually targeted for kill. If I hit a blank, it's just a normal doctor shot.
Also, roleblocked for the last two nights (I am assuming). Targeted Shini this night.
tom should be clearing me based on this discussion.
I literally lose the game if I vote town today, so no. My only hope at winning is to cooperate with wolves to remove all the non-Stark/NW, if they're really at overrun like they say. (and if this is a gambit of some kind, Rhand is a wolf anyways so...)
Tbh, it's starting to look like I literally couldn't kill many wolves, so is what it is. I did have Rhand selected at one point all 3 nights but moved my shot off him for various reasons.
I feel like you missed pretty much half the posts today.
Where Rhand outed himself as a wolf and threatened me to cooperate or get nk'd. My options are a tad limited, and it's probably only way I could actually win the game with my actual win condition anyways.
Was fun I guess, but does remind me why I rarely play specialties.
Ugh, I wish we had lynched Rhand D1. But like... two real Days for a 19 player game is... weird.
So Rhand definitely. KJ probably due to vote counts. Then Shin or Tom. There have to be at least 2 Stark scum or else I don't think they could guarantee a win.
Hm. Shin or Tom. Shin claimed role cop, but he also gets faction info? Plus, given the scum team KNOWS that we cant win, Shin has probably copped people.
Vaimes, X, I invite you to speculate with me on this side por while we mindlessly wait for the game to end.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I guess while we are waiting, does anyone have unfulfilled wincons? Maybe other people can rack up wins. Not me though. I am a Targ and um... I don't think there are Baratheons left to kill.
My kills were Highroller, Tubba, Hunger, if you wanted to go look from that.
I only have one win con, which is 'win and leave the game (it still continues) when the only players remaining are starks/night's watch. then a redacted win con which is almost definitely "if all starks/night's watch die, win if you are last player standing", I'd bet like. legit money on that.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Hm. Shin or Tom. Shin claimed role cop, but he also gets faction info? Plus, given the scum team KNOWS that we cant win, Shin has probably copped people.
Vaimes, X, I invite you to speculate with me on this side por while we mindlessly wait for the game to end.
Given the game doesn’t seem to mechanically be over, I’m assuming either Winds is still lying about his win con and/or the scum team/Rhand are bluffing about being able to win 100% through any set of night actions?
Dunno, it kinda feels we should probably take the scum claimed Rhand lynch and then allow scum/Winds to screw up. Unless the difference is literally whether Winds solo wins or scum do, in which case meh.
I mean, technically Winds could not follow scum plans and shoot somewhere else, but... uhm he hasn't been helping us a great deal already plus it would be throwing away a win so...
They're laughing at us! All across the Riverlands... right down to King's Landing, they're laughing at us. I hear it in my sleep! I'm not dead yet, unfortunately for you. And I'll not leave this world until they all choke on that laughter.
Not Voting (4): Shinichi, Cantripmancer, Hunger, Grapefruit21
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I guess while we are waiting, does anyone have unfulfilled wincons? Maybe other people can rack up wins. Not me though. I am a Targ and um... I don't think there are Baratheons left to kill.
Not Voting (5): Gentleman Johnny, XequalsY, tomsloger, Vaimes, Shinichi
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is June 8th at 1200 MST.
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I’m starting to think that this play may require too much trust and town cooperation.
Maybe we should go for no lynch and let you shoot scum while we shoot town.
I guess while we are waiting, does anyone have unfulfilled wincons? Maybe other people can rack up wins. Not me though. I am a Targ and um... I don't think there are Baratheons left to kill.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
figured that was ur win con, it wouldnt make sense for an sk to have any alt win con besides just eliminating everyone.
does he tho?
?
Lynch a scum, another one outs, but it's basically too late?
Meh.
I got my wincon, Starks can get theirs, sooo. I don't vote here, so that they can? Or something.
Killjoy, at least 50% of the players are dead. Extra vote fizzles.
Intention to vote Rhand.
I am not really a jailer in concept. If Shini read my role correctly, he would know that tom would only have been roleblocked IF he was actually targeted for kill. If I hit a blank, it's just a normal doctor shot.
Also, roleblocked for the last two nights (I am assuming). Targeted Shini this night.
tom should be clearing me based on this discussion.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I have a feeling that Winds is just goingto vote town anyways. Good game guys.
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Scum can vote him of they are going to win this way.
Lol "townsiding" Winds
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I guess we could at least go into Night and see what happens.
Vote Rhand
I guess I can take some pride in forcing the only true scum lynch?
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Tbh, it's starting to look like I literally couldn't kill many wolves, so is what it is. I did have Rhand selected at one point all 3 nights but moved my shot off him for various reasons.
So obviously all of these aren't scum, because I am town. Rod is probably town.
KJ is scum Stark.
Tom, you are too right?
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Where Rhand outed himself as a wolf and threatened me to cooperate or get nk'd. My options are a tad limited, and it's probably only way I could actually win the game with my actual win condition anyways.
Was fun I guess, but does remind me why I rarely play specialties.
So Rhand definitely. KJ probably due to vote counts. Then Shin or Tom. There have to be at least 2 Stark scum or else I don't think they could guarantee a win.
The other scum is probably GJ?
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And Tom, your explanation of putting me in Poe just feels all sorts of fake.
Honestly, is giving up more than one scum something that even matters now? You guys control the vote.
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Vaimes, X, I invite you to speculate with me on this side por while we mindlessly wait for the game to end.
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Rhand outed himself. Everyone should vote him.
Also winds wincon absolutely means there's scum in Stark.
What did shin claim again?
I guess while we are waiting, does anyone have unfulfilled wincons? Maybe other people can rack up wins. Not me though. I am a Targ and um... I don't think there are Baratheons left to kill.
Hey did Chris shoot any Baratheons? Lol
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So, Rhand, Shin, GJ, Tom?
That would make two scum Starks. That makes sense. Weirdly enough, no scum Lannister. Unless Vaimes is ultra deep wolf. (Please don't be.)
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My kills were Highroller, Tubba, Hunger, if you wanted to go look from that.
I only have one win con, which is 'win and leave the game (it still continues) when the only players remaining are starks/night's watch. then a redacted win con which is almost definitely "if all starks/night's watch die, win if you are last player standing", I'd bet like. legit money on that.
Tom - Stark, night Watch
GJ - Night Watch
Vaimes, me - Lannisters
Winds - Wolf
KJ, Shin - Starks
Rhand - Frey
X=Y - Targ
2 of 4 Starks as scum? Hm.
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Actually... Does Winds wincon make tom more likely scum? To balance the neutral, havin a scum on both NW and Stark might be a thing.
Given the game doesn’t seem to mechanically be over, I’m assuming either Winds is still lying about his win con and/or the scum team/Rhand are bluffing about being able to win 100% through any set of night actions?
Dunno, it kinda feels we should probably take the scum claimed Rhand lynch and then allow scum/Winds to screw up. Unless the difference is literally whether Winds solo wins or scum do, in which case meh.
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@KJ, if there's only one scum in Starks, where are the other two?
x=y, me, Vaimes and GJ are the only other options. Do you think there are two scum in us four?
Also, can someone find the Rhand wagon?
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There you go darling
Maybe xy is scum by Poe. He never shot scum.
IDK still thinking.
How town was supposed to win with a 5 scum AND a kinda-sorta SK is beyond my comprehension, aside from "play perfectly or die lol".
Small victories.
-Tyrion Lannister
Rhand (3): Killjoy, Thousand_Winds, LnGrrrR
LnGrrrR (1): Rhand
Not Voting (5): Gentleman Johnny, XequalsY, tomsloger, Vaimes, Shinichi
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Now that all of the benefits are gone and it's just pure vanity.
Vote quickly muahahaha
Interesting?
Especially when if that's the team, 3 of them I literally couldn't shoot, and a fourth is bulletproof.
Are there seriously no Tyrells in this game? shadow, you dick.
Maybe we should go for no lynch and let you shoot scum while we shoot town.
A dwarf.
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Also me for the throne! I might be a reviver or something.