@Riku: I know LW is scum, so with him proposing, that mission would auto-fail.
Since you rejected it when Lngr proposed it and accepted when LW did, I think you’re scum with LW.
Cool, Last is town. Last/Lng/Ruma as an exact team is basically impossible.
So skip Rhand, and go from there.
Game is probably just Cantrip/Rhand/Lng at this point.
can you explain to the class why this is? the me being town because of this mission part? cause even I dont know why?
If you were scum, it’s a winning move for scum to approve your mission, and since Ruma voting yes (and almost certainly town) means a scum team with you could have won outright, by not doing that, you are just town.
If cantrip declined, means only one scum on the accept mission.
Means wisp isnt scum either.
Means you are scum.
well I knew all of those
The person that I was gunna dummy was the only one who passed outside me and you is confirmed in my eyes
Hilariously I think that actually would have been the right call; especially since you were kind of antsy with both myself and KJ, I could see scum Lng trying to slip under the radar.
KJ, ultimately it's up to whether or not you believe Shadow or I is scum. At this point in the game, i think Cantrip/Rhand are confirmed scum. I think my posts speak for themselves as far as my towniness, plus, ya know, my votes. But look back at the missions with at least a Rhand/Cantrip scum mindset so you can make the best decision.
@Lng: if I’m scum, explain why I wouldn’t have just voted yes on pasta proposal and sailed off to victory?
Also, cantrip’s yes vote here would have lost him the game if I were scum with him and Rhand:
3.2 (KJ)
Proposed: KJ, LnGrrrR, Wisp, Riku
Yes (2): Cantrip, LnG
No (5): KJ, Rhand, Riku, Shadow, Wisp
KJ, ultimately it's up to whether or not you believe Shadow or I is scum. At this point in the game, i think Cantrip/Rhand are confirmed scum. I think my posts speak for themselves as far as my towniness, plus, ya know, my votes. But look back at the missions with at least a Rhand/Cantrip scum mindset so you can make the best decision.
@Lng: if I’m scum, explain why I wouldn’t have just voted yes on pasta proposal and sailed off to victory?
Also, cantrip’s yes vote here would have lost him the game if I were scum with him and Rhand:
3.2 (KJ)
Proposed: KJ, LnGrrrR, Wisp, Riku
Yes (2): Cantrip, LnG
No (5): KJ, Rhand, Riku, Shadow, Wisp
Not saying you're scum, just you're 'hilariously, etc' comment irked me. I think the way you phrased it was off.
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I am also called Riku. I tend to prefer being called riku.
LW faked a fail on me
Cantrip: see my vote analysis. He can’t be town.
Riku: because he accepted LW’s mission.
Sure, I know you think LW is scum. But show the rest of us. Why did Cantrip choose the team he did? Do you think he dummied Shadow? If so, why? Is Riku's vote the only thing, just process of elimination?
@Lngr: I think he chose the team because there were exactly 2 scum on it and he could dummy a townie to generate the 2 fails.
It is possible that there was a third scum (Shadow) on there and he dummied him to be sure there’s not a third fail, but I think it makes more sense for Riku to be scum 3 because a team with 2 fails would be under a lot of scrutiny, and it’s better not to have the third scum on it.
I am sure Cantrip is scum because I am sure you and KJ are town (see my vote analysis for why)
I’m still not 100% sure about Riku/Shadow, but Riku just makes more sense.
I also think the way Riku is treating me now as “exposed scum” without explaining why is very telling.
He wants to shut me up and take away my credibility.
No, I meant *****ty as. If ya ain't ever heard that expression, that ain't my fault. Why are you equating me and wisp, is the problem. Explain to me the relation between me and wisp, beyond the fact I've played with wisp before.
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I am also called Riku. I tend to prefer being called riku.
@Riku, I've answered the Shadow thing before, just ISO me. I don't have any smoking gun.
I have been. I'm concerned as you and Shadow have some pretty *****ty ISO's if the scum team is rhand/cantrip one of you.
Not sure what you mean by this. You mean that both Shadow and myself look bad, individually, if Rhand and Cantrip are the other two scum? Feel free to tell me which posts you don't like. If it's siding with Rhand after mission 2, I didn't trust Last at the time. Rhand felt pretty towny to me through the first 3 missions or so, but yeah, pretty sure now that I was wrong.
@Riku: apart from the 2 missions where you didn’t vote, you have voted in tandem with LW on EVERY mission.
What are you trying to prove here?
5his right here is why your logic isnt to be trusted. -_-
You’re using the non-connection between you and LW to convince me that you’re not scum together and make me look at the votecounts, and when I do, it turns out you always voted for/against the same thing.
These one-liners without depth of yours convince me I’m right.
And why are you even trying to convince me that I’m wrong if you believe this strongly that i’m scum?
I'll probably do Last's last proposal. I think me last and Riku are town. Shadow probably isn't scum with the people he'd have to be scum with.
That leaves Rhand, LnGrrrR, Cantrip.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I’m amazed Cantrip declined. He must have thought Lngr wouldn’t accept.
I’ve been saying for a long time that this is the mission I was going to propose.
Means wisp isnt scum either.
Means you are scum.
5.3 Rhand, Lngr, KJ, Shadow, Riku
You have 24 hours to vote. Please vote by PM.
Since you rejected it when Lngr proposed it and accepted when LW did, I think you’re scum with LW.
The person that I was gunna dummy was the only one who passed outside me and you is confirmed in my eyes
@rhand
Rip
Because you, Riku and I voted yes, and I feel confident enough in KJ given that he helped pass mission 1 and 2.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Honestly there is one post, an interaction between you and Rhand, that if it did not happen, I would seriously think it's shadow...
See if you can find the post, even if you could I don't you could quell my thoughts on you being scum over shadow
Why?
@Lng: if I’m scum, explain why I wouldn’t have just voted yes on pasta proposal and sailed off to victory?
Also, cantrip’s yes vote here would have lost him the game if I were scum with him and Rhand:
3.2 (KJ)
Proposed: KJ, LnGrrrR, Wisp, Riku
Yes (2): Cantrip, LnG
No (5): KJ, Rhand, Riku, Shadow, Wisp
Not saying you're scum, just you're 'hilariously, etc' comment irked me. I think the way you phrased it was off.
I think i know what you mean... i had the same feeling after his comment, "it was KJ wasnt it", after the mission where I dummied Rhand
Riku, walk me through your 903. Not sure how you arrive at your conclusion.
I think we’ve lost this. I know my proposal will be rejected and I doubt KJ is going to propose correctly.
Well played LW.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Cantrip: see my vote analysis. He can’t be town.
Riku: because he accepted LW’s mission.
5.3 proposed by Rhand has been declined.
5.3 Rhand, Lngr, KJ, Shadow, Riku
Yes(1): Rhand
No(6): Cantrip, Last, LnG, KJ, Riku, Shadow
It is now KJ's turn to propose he has 72 hours.
Sure, I know you think LW is scum. But show the rest of us. Why did Cantrip choose the team he did? Do you think he dummied Shadow? If so, why? Is Riku's vote the only thing, just process of elimination?
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
It is possible that there was a third scum (Shadow) on there and he dummied him to be sure there’s not a third fail, but I think it makes more sense for Riku to be scum 3 because a team with 2 fails would be under a lot of scrutiny, and it’s better not to have the third scum on it.
I am sure Cantrip is scum because I am sure you and KJ are town (see my vote analysis for why)
I’m still not 100% sure about Riku/Shadow, but Riku just makes more sense.
He wants to shut me up and take away my credibility.
@Killjoy, I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
@Shadow: Why are you town over Lngrrr?
@Lngrrr: Why are you town over shadow.
@Cantrip: Why aren't you scum?
@Rhand: Give me a logical reason I'm scum, rather than your *****ty as VCA.
Knew I forgot somebody. Yolo.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
I have been. I'm concerned as you and Shadow have some pretty *****ty ISO's if the scum team is rhand/cantrip one of you.
What are you trying to prove here?
5his right here is why your logic isnt to be trusted. -_-
Not sure what you mean by this. You mean that both Shadow and myself look bad, individually, if Rhand and Cantrip are the other two scum? Feel free to tell me which posts you don't like. If it's siding with Rhand after mission 2, I didn't trust Last at the time. Rhand felt pretty towny to me through the first 3 missions or so, but yeah, pretty sure now that I was wrong.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
You’re using the non-connection between you and LW to convince me that you’re not scum together and make me look at the votecounts, and when I do, it turns out you always voted for/against the same thing.
These one-liners without depth of yours convince me I’m right.
And why are you even trying to convince me that I’m wrong if you believe this strongly that i’m scum?
The only one that it heavily using associations to call out people as scum, is you
That leaves Rhand, LnGrrrR, Cantrip.
So Last's prop is probably the way to go.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
make sure you propose
in case this passes... best of luck.
KJ, Last, LnG, Riku, and Shadow
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