Highroller, you gotta look at more shades of grey dude. Things just aren't as black and white as you make them out to be.
Like, ever.
A reason isn't bad just because its wrong.
A wagon can be good or bad while also being on town or scum.
Most posts in a mafia game can come from either alignment.
Etc
This is how you always are, and i think its playstyle not alignment but I don't know what to do with it I live entirely in shades of gray
I have been reading, just so everyone knows. I like to re-read and think.
Also I don't have too much self esteem, I am literally one of the best players around as voted by my peers numerous times over the years. It'd be weird if I didn't know I was good!
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Anyway I have never seen a town Vaimes this useless so I am going to decide that Scum Vaimes is floundering.
##vote: Vaimes
He just has nothing and if he is town he needs to die now at any rate because there's no way he survives this game playing how horribly he is so best to learn now!
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To my eye, Highroller is painfully obvious town who is not very good at the game. Their reads on Osi felt VERY pure to me even as they trashed them over and over and over again. In contrast, Tom's read of Osi felt like a misrep generator and one of the many reasons I am not a fan of Tom in general. But seeing as I am not going anywhere tonight, I don't mind the fact letting Tom slide another day and consolidating the game around a Vaimes lynch as he hasn't had a single ounce of fire.
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In kinda leaning to say Chris is correct about Highroller. He feels tunnely. In the way that says he probably actually doesn't know that I'm not Mafia.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
In kinda leaning to say Chris is correct about Highroller. He feels tunnely. In the way that says he probably actually doesn't know that I'm not Mafia.
I have to agree with Chris tbh. I remember vaimes in Secret Neighbors and this is NOT him. At all.
Lets lynch vaimes.
His play this game isn't far off of my recollection of his play. How is he different?
He posted a LOT more and added a LOT of info in that game. I remember because i was scumreading him for him being all: I am SO town because of my post count.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Anyway I have never seen a town Vaimes this useless so I am going to decide that Scum Vaimes is floundering.
##vote: Vaimes
He just has nothing and if he is town he needs to die now at any rate because there's no way he survives this game playing how horribly he is so best to learn now!
Yeah, that's not how that works.
I kinda lost motivation to read after you and tom started fighting and haven't really felt well today, so. I'll try again after I sleep.
You've been losing motivation for different reasons for a month now lol.
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I wouldn't go so far as to townread LnGrrrR, but I see no reason to proclaim LnGrrrR more suspicious/in need of a lynch than KamikazeArchon, Vaimes, Vezok, or Killjoy.
In fact, it as of right now it pretty much goes in that order.
I haven't analyzed that angle yet mostly because work has once more consumed my soul more than I'd like.
But yeah Vaimes yet again pulling the "oh this thing made me not care about catching up" for at least the third time is uh... pretty epic <_<.
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2 things: Amsterdam is amazing, compact with tons of stuff to do, and I wish I had time for two extra days there. Maybe when we drive to Belgium I will add a day or two to head up there and see some stuff we missed. Beautiful city.
2) Need to look at vote counts, but considering Vaimes is on every one of them so far (except Anak I think lulx) he is a pretty easy choice. Vote Vaimes
Also, it would be pretty awesome if the other 2 scum are in Vezok and re or tau, but given I am usually wrong it will probably be harder than that sadly.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
BTW i looked at Three little pigs. Three little pigs Vaimes doesn't feel like this game Vaimes.
I feel like the issue with Vaimes in this game is his time constraints.
Chris, Vezok, Rod: Can anyone of you tell me something actually scummy Vaimes has done? I feel like people are all voting him because he's "not as town as usual" which feel bad given we have other, scummier players.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Instead of giving timely opinions he has now three times given the excuse of "not being into the game" or somesuch and given this has been over a one month period if he had such bothersome time restraints perhaps he should stop playing Mafia. I have time restraints. When time restraints are used to not give insightful content on a meaningful basis it becomes problematic.
Also the fact that you think I have a greater chance of being scum than Vaimes is kind of a bad joke.
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Also it is easy for someone to not have done something really scummy when they don'd do anything at all. Like yeah, he hasn't really taken a hard line bad stance to my memory because... he hasn't really engaged. He's had plenty of opportunity to do so.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
If that's the case with Vaimes, then what about Re?
I don't think you're more likely scum than Vaimes specifically. It's more I'm town reading Vaimes, and not you. And this you're farther down.
We are about one day away from LyLo. Not voting for someone because they haven't done anything actively scummy (which I disagree, just Vaimes popins when he says nothing are scummy by themselves, not to mention the horrible changes of heart on voting anak or me) is a good day 1 reason, but not endgame reason.
If you want to lynch someone else you'll either have to make a really strong case that the person is scum, explain how having Vaimes in LyLo would not be a problem and give a semblance of a town case on Vaimes.
Simply put, "He hasn't done anything incredibly scummy" is a bad defense for such a late stage of the game.
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If that's the case with Vaimes, then what about Re?
I don't think you're more likely scum than Vaimes specifically. It's more I'm town reading Vaimes, and not you. And this you're farther down.
We are about one day away from LyLo. Not voting for someone because they haven't done anything actively scummy (which I disagree, just Vaimes popins when he says nothing are scummy by themselves, not to mention the horrible changes of heart on voting anak or me) is a good day 1 reason, but not endgame reason.
If you want to lynch someone else you'll either have to make a really strong case that the person is scum, explain how having Vaimes in LyLo would not be a problem and give a semblance of a town case on Vaimes.
Simply put, "He hasn't done anything incredibly scummy" is a bad defense for such a late stage of the game.
iirc there's ten players ability, which means tomorrow is lylo unless we hit scum today. I'll work up a town case if I can soon.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
It's really pissing me off that I can't nail down why.
I would be very happy to stab Tom repeatedly if you like.
Btw KJ honest question. Why are you not town reading me? It's really strange because we even share the 'Hmm, Tom is pinging me' thing! You specifically should love me.
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Also it is easy for someone to not have done something really scummy when they don'd do anything at all. Like yeah, he hasn't really taken a hard line bad stance to my memory because... he hasn't really engaged. He's had plenty of opportunity to do so.
Kinda how I feel, though I understand lack of interest. Otherwise would have pushed him harder long ago.
If that's the case with Vaimes, then what about Re?
You think Vaimes has done more than I have since I replaced in? I'm playing at like half strength but Vaimes has been completely unimpressionable to me.
I haven't been able to get any kind of read off him. Sorry if I missed it - why do you think he's town?
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It's really pissing me off that I can't nail down why.
I would be very happy to stab Tom repeatedly if you like.
Btw KJ honest question. Why are you not town reading me? It's really strange because we even share the 'Hmm, Tom is pinging me' thing! You specifically should love me.
Well I have two top scum reads, but I'm not sure Tom is scum with them. There was one instance that he was voting with literally both of them. Back to back.
My gut feelings about Tom aren't actually based in anything he's done so much (there's this inking where when he says that he would never bus Anak so substantially and my head responds "That's true until it stops being true." And feels a bit like Iso's "I wouldn't claim VT") but ultimately (and this I suppose applies to Vaimes as well) I'd rather persue people who have done things to make them scummy than people who haven't done enough to make them town.
I suppose all your bravado is throwing me. I feel like you try to take credit you don't deserve and it makes me distrust you.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Also it is easy for someone to not have done something really scummy when they don'd do anything at all. Like yeah, he hasn't really taken a hard line bad stance to my memory because... he hasn't really engaged. He's had plenty of opportunity to do so.
Kinda how I feel, though I understand lack of interest. Otherwise would have pushed him harder long ago.
If that's the case with Vaimes, then what about Re?
You think Vaimes has done more than I have since I replaced in? I'm playing at like half strength but Vaimes has been completely unimpressionable to me.
I haven't been able to get any kind of read off him. Sorry if I missed it - why do you think he's town?
It's a very strong tone read.
You're both having trouble getting motivated. Vaimes I feel has a decent amount of content to analyze. I keep forgetting you're in the game.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Like, ever.
A reason isn't bad just because its wrong.
A wagon can be good or bad while also being on town or scum.
Most posts in a mafia game can come from either alignment.
Etc
This is how you always are, and i think its playstyle not alignment but I don't know what to do with it I live entirely in shades of gray
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vezokpiraka (3): tomsloger, Vaimes, Killjoy
KamikazeArchon (2): Highroller, RE1031
Vaimes (2): vezokpiraka, Rodemy
tomsloger (1): Sir Chris
Not Voting (2): LnGrrrR, KamikazeArchon
V/LA: LnGrrrR (April 14th)
With 10 alive, it’s 6 to lynch. Deadline is on April 18th.
The idea is he is trying to sound town? Idk. Best i can explain is:
makes joke about the exchange, but also in the same joke says he hasn't read the exchange.
Idk, it's a gut thing.
Also I don't have too much self esteem, I am literally one of the best players around as voted by my peers numerous times over the years. It'd be weird if I didn't know I was good!
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##vote: Vaimes
He just has nothing and if he is town he needs to die now at any rate because there's no way he survives this game playing how horribly he is so best to learn now!
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To my eye, Highroller is painfully obvious town who is not very good at the game. Their reads on Osi felt VERY pure to me even as they trashed them over and over and over again. In contrast, Tom's read of Osi felt like a misrep generator and one of the many reasons I am not a fan of Tom in general. But seeing as I am not going anywhere tonight, I don't mind the fact letting Tom slide another day and consolidating the game around a Vaimes lynch as he hasn't had a single ounce of fire.
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Lets lynch vaimes.
His play this game isn't far off of my recollection of his play. How is he different?
He posted a LOT more and added a LOT of info in that game. I remember because i was scumreading him for him being all: I am SO town because of my post count.
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<3 aww.
Wat? That doesn’t make sense.
Thought i explained it pretty well
Question though: Vaimes: can I see a couple of your scum games?
I kinda lost motivation to read after you and tom started fighting and haven't really felt well today, so. I'll try again after I sleep.
I have some recent games offsite on DLP, but the ISO feature there is *****. I (or tom) can give you the links if you really want to look at them.
Kinda wanna vote Chris for swinging hard at tom and backing down.
Kinda wanna vote LnGR and everyone suddenly townreading him.
Kinda wanna sleep.
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In fact, it as of right now it pretty much goes in that order.
No one has even asked why i think they're solidly unaligned
But yeah Vaimes yet again pulling the "oh this thing made me not care about catching up" for at least the third time is uh... pretty epic <_<.
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2) Need to look at vote counts, but considering Vaimes is on every one of them so far (except Anak I think lulx) he is a pretty easy choice.
Vote Vaimes
Also, it would be pretty awesome if the other 2 scum are in Vezok and re or tau, but given I am usually wrong it will probably be harder than that sadly.
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LngrrR: Why do you think Vaimes is scum?
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I feel like the issue with Vaimes in this game is his time constraints.
Chris, Vezok, Rod: Can anyone of you tell me something actually scummy Vaimes has done? I feel like people are all voting him because he's "not as town as usual" which feel bad given we have other, scummier players.
Instead of giving timely opinions he has now three times given the excuse of "not being into the game" or somesuch and given this has been over a one month period if he had such bothersome time restraints perhaps he should stop playing Mafia. I have time restraints. When time restraints are used to not give insightful content on a meaningful basis it becomes problematic.
Also the fact that you think I have a greater chance of being scum than Vaimes is kind of a bad joke.
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I don't think you're more likely scum than Vaimes specifically. It's more I'm town reading Vaimes, and not you. And this you're farther down.
If people don't want to Lynch Vezok, we can Lynch Lngrrr.
Vote Lngrrr
Or you can vote Vaimes....
Answer my question please.
It's really pissing me off that I can't nail down why.
We are about one day away from LyLo. Not voting for someone because they haven't done anything actively scummy (which I disagree, just Vaimes popins when he says nothing are scummy by themselves, not to mention the horrible changes of heart on voting anak or me) is a good day 1 reason, but not endgame reason.
If you want to lynch someone else you'll either have to make a really strong case that the person is scum, explain how having Vaimes in LyLo would not be a problem and give a semblance of a town case on Vaimes.
Simply put, "He hasn't done anything incredibly scummy" is a bad defense for such a late stage of the game.
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Talk to me about his position on you.
I would be very happy to stab Tom repeatedly if you like.
Btw KJ honest question. Why are you not town reading me? It's really strange because we even share the 'Hmm, Tom is pinging me' thing! You specifically should love me.
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I haven't been able to get any kind of read off him. Sorry if I missed it - why do you think he's town?
My gut feelings about Tom aren't actually based in anything he's done so much (there's this inking where when he says that he would never bus Anak so substantially and my head responds "That's true until it stops being true." And feels a bit like Iso's "I wouldn't claim VT") but ultimately (and this I suppose applies to Vaimes as well) I'd rather persue people who have done things to make them scummy than people who haven't done enough to make them town.
I suppose all your bravado is throwing me. I feel like you try to take credit you don't deserve and it makes me distrust you.
You're both having trouble getting motivated. Vaimes I feel has a decent amount of content to analyze. I keep forgetting you're in the game.
Also tone is bleh.