@tom and vaimes: Can you put your heart into it and try to get someone lynched? I don't want another no lynch.
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Zdts is like 90% scum
>Role isnt likely as claimed, probable protection from ghostbuster kills, possible the delayer with the marshmallow cocoon flavor
>Target n1 doesnt make sense. Fuwa top townreads grape and vaimes.
>Freely claiming targets makes zero sense from any perspective except trying town read. And just a lot of the way hes dribbled out the full claim reeks of "but wait theres more"
>position on rod wagon, just as it became clear that was happening basically. And following what looks like a super awkward distancing attempt and no vote til he got called out on it.
>also spent several posts trying to connect people to rod while not *actually* talking about rod himself
>zdt going all in on dv. Circular reasoning since best point for dv town is zdt being scum but like man look at it in that world and tell me its not scummy af
I kinda agree with all your points and I'm down to lynch ztd as I was yesterday.
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Because you were a common denominator on both bandwagons, and on neither of them did you give an adequate rationale for your blatant bandwagoning.
No actually Tom was.
Exactly that: what possible reason could you have for performing such an inexplicable action as taking a bullet for Riku, especially when you were so willing to vote him earlier in the day?
Yeah exactly. You haven't really answered the question now have you.
Look. I didn't really hammer vote Terry. I remember even when you forced my name onto that list as approval as wanting to say something then. I didn't, that is my bad. That whole thing is just a mess for my own play. Really I just let myself get talked into it and then I just sort of capitulated. I shouldn't have.
There is some truth to the rest of what you said. I think you are entirely over confidant in your own assessment of the game. Rhand flips and you go "I'll give you that one, but I'm still using the same logic." It just strikes me as someone who wants to hear themselves talk more than think about the game. Maybe you are persona posting and I've got the wrong assessment of you, hell the part that everyone thinks is offensive is probabally the least offensive thing I've seen ever and makes me feel better about you as a person. Funny that.
Also, just as an aside I don't think HR said anything to get feathers ruffled over. I'm really surprised people are taking issue with that as being offensive. HR if anyone gives you ***** for that ignore them cause I don't really think you flamed me much(Maybe that last sentence, but there is some truth to that so LOL).
@Tom see Playstation also @DV see playstation see how right you were but LOL nobody listened now why was that.
In the interest of explaining more of what I mean HR.
Let me point to two things.
First, I think a lot of your analysis on me is bad, because its very myopic. I've produced copious amounts of content, and you've really only focused on the Terry thing. Really at the end of the day that's all you've got. It just seems absurd to me. When I call it bad, what I mean is it doesn't take the scope of what I'm posting, you don't seem to be interested in analyzing anything else. You just seem to want to straw man my arguments, reduce them down to making me only having made ad homs, which I have done, but I've done a lot more as well. So to me, it seems that you are way more interested in puffing out your own chest and claiming to be right, then actually doing the work to be right. Terry is a good example of this, I'm still unsure why you voted Terry, you've given some reasons, but I hope even you realize that they are weak.
But secondly, the way you argue is bad to me. Take for example the band wagon argument, you sort of repeated what had already been said and this had already been addressed. You wanted to argue that the band wagon is scummy, and you just sort of throw up that premise with no backing, and then on top of that ignore that the premise has already been proven largely false. You then make a sort of legitimate argument that I was on both wagons, but so were others as well. You skate past that fact and I'm not sure why. I think this is a lot of conformation bias, where you think Tom is town and so are ignoring that. I think that's wrong. Vez I think was also on both of the "Band wagons" and you skate past that as well. You just say "DV was on the band wagon so DV was scummy." Its a farce, you don't back the premise up and you just sort of state it as fact. It doesn't even really make any sense.
To me you seem like an intelligent enough person that you should know you are making these arguments. And that you are largely trying to force them in. So it seems to me that you care much more about appearing right, then actually being right. If I've gotten this wrong I'm sorry. I just feel like you are not interested in trying to solve the game, and that you just want to claim victory. I'd also point to the flavor gaming. Like I just feel like you want to speak and be heard and don't want to actually work on solving the game. Additionally the fact that you have apparently flavor gamed before and I assume were told how bad it was at the end of the game makes me have these thoughts on you even more. It just seems like a pattern to me.
@highroller: you are trying to pin the blame of terry's death when you were the one pushing it. It wasn't a hammer vote, it was a discussion about who is willing to defend terry and nobody got up to the task.
No, you have it backwards. I've never denied that I share responsibility for Terry's death. Every one of the seven people who gave the OK on Terry did. I maintain that there were valid reasons for voting for him at the time, but we were wrong and we mistakenly killed a town. This is true.
But D_V has been running around trying to claim himself as some sort of Cassandra figure, a prophet no one listened to saying Terry was town. "I was right about Terry!" he cries, "Look at how much better I am at the game than you!"
Except, he also put Terry on his mafia list and said he was totally fine with Terry's daykill, and was the 7th vote in that regard. You can't enter a binary scenario in which someone is either town or not town, take up both positions, and then say you were right when he turned out to be town. To claim he was right on Terry is ridiculous.
It also makes him extraordinarily suspicious because he was really the only one besides Terry himself who defended Terry, yet within two pages he goes from - his words - "hardclearing" Terry to being the hammervote in Terry's daykill. So when he runs around saying there was no reason to kill Terry, the immediate response is, "Ok, then WHY DID YOU THINK IT WAS FINE TO KILL HIM?" D_V had even less reason to kill Terry than anyone else on that wagon, because none of the other six of us was running around claiming to have hardcleared him.
Dv is certainly not the last scum so you can use your powers to find the other people in the scum team.
What are you talking about? "Use my powers"?
Also, what do you mean "other people in the scum team?" If you agree D_V is mafia, why aren't you trying to lynch him?
Also, what do you mean "other people in the scum team?" If you agree D_V is mafia, why aren't you trying to lynch him?
If you fundamentally think that Vezok thinks I'm scum you have not been reading the game.
I didn't clear Terry its like you are just ignoring anything I have said at all. This is what I mean about you winning the argument. You fundamentally refuse to take any evidence at all and strong arm all arguments used to pursue a single goal. Like come on man you know what Vez means with that statement, you know Vez doesn't think I'm scum. Yet you take this ludicrous straw man argument of his thoughts.
Stop being a "Its cold outside so how can global warming exists" arguer. Just stop man.
Also Vezok's implication is go elsewhere. But you seem uninterested in doing so. If you need me to help you understand any other basic logical conclusions I can help at any time.
Keep trying to win that argument bro. **** the truth make yourself feel big though.
I meant that as “I still kinda think DV is scum, but depending on my reread I may end up wanting to kill someone else.”
You really need to stop with the attitude. You may think it’s okay in games to call people bad or stupid or pick fights, but I’m not here for it and am more than happy to bow out if you insist on keeping it up.
I meant that as “I still kinda think DV is scum, but depending on my reread I may end up wanting to kill someone else.”
You really need to stop with the attitude. You may think it’s okay in games to call people bad or stupid or pick fights, but I’m not here for it and am more than happy to bow out if you insist on keeping it up.
That's my bad I automatically assumed the worst with the way the post was structured.
I wouldn't be opposed to a Riku vig or lynch either.
I'm town reading ETR for that push. Disliking Tubba's push.
@Vaimes why would randomly outing = town?
Also wouldn't be opposed to Fuwa either.
My town list looks something like
Tom
Highroller
Vaimes
Vezok
Rhand
ETR
KA
Terry
Tubba
FUWA
Re
RUMA
I'd be OK with going anywhere bellow ETR.
I'd prefer going bellow Terry
Do you need help in understanding context, wording, overall thoughts? Cause like with the Vez comments and other comments it just seems like English is a second language? I'm not trying to insult, it just seems like you don't understand context. Or how people talk. Or anything that could clue you in on what a person means.
In this scenario I was calling for anyone bellow Terry, I wasn't really calling for Terry. I was sort of permissively saying it wasn't the worst, but I wasn't advocating for it. I really don't know how else to explain this to you. Its just basic English.
I meant that as “I still kinda think DV is scum, but depending on my reread I may end up wanting to kill someone else.”
You really need to stop with the attitude. You may think it’s okay in games to call people bad or stupid or pick fights, but I’m not here for it and am more than happy to bow out if you insist on keeping it up.
That's my bad I automatically assumed the worst with the way the post was structured.
Actually I'm going to follow this up.
Vaimes I took frustration out on you that I shouldn't have. Sorry.
I'm working some really short shifts over the next few days so I'll use that time to try and slog through this game. Probably only gonna focus on the lynch candidates + meaningful interactions with other slots.
@Tom I didn’t have a great read on Tubba earlier. He felt kinda scummy and I didn’t love some of his wording. The back and forth with him brought up to null for me and I have a hard time seeing who he could be scum aligned with at this point.
I can’t reconcile in my head the fact that we have a cocoon person that keeps people cocooned and a slimmer that keeps people slimed.
I'm going to key you in of my thoughts thus far. I like highroller and think he is town. Based on my role his idea isn't bad. At least a mass name claim would make sense even if we don't go for the full role claim.
... is there something i don't know? Why just the names?
I just read the lore on my character and my ability confused me even more.
I'm Dana Barrett.
@Rodemy: Having the names out would help at least part of my role. Having all abilities on the table would be cool, but I doubt me and highroller could convince everyone.
I just read the lore on my character and my ability confused me even more.
I'm Dana Barrett.
@Rodemy: Having the names out would help at least part of my role. Having all abilities on the table would be cool, but I doubt me and highroller could convince everyone.
Which means it might benifit BOTH sides.
Maybe we shouldn't.
Also lol @highroller
Flavorgaming.
I think this is a good look for vezok.
There are other things sprinkled in his ISO that I think are +town, but I'm comfortable leaving him be.
In this scenario I was calling for anyone bellow Terry, I wasn't really calling for Terry. I was sort of permissively saying it wasn't the worst, but I wasn't advocating for it. I really don't know how else to explain this to you. Its just basic English.
And in your basic English, you condoned the kill of someone you hardcleared.
And now you're trying to run around saying how much smarter than everyone else you are that you were right about Terry.
So explain how you were right about Terry when you openly condoned a daykill of him?
Because you can't have it both ways. You can't say there was no reason to kill Terry when you openly condoned killing him, because that attempt to discredit people not only also applies to you, but applies to you doubly so, because no one else on the bandwagon thought Terry was hardcleared.
You should have been lynched as soon as Terry flipped town.
Zdt what you think of vez if dv were to flip town?
I think vez would be a lot more likely to be town if D_V flips town; a decent part of the SR I have for vezok is interactions with D_V.
But D_V flipping town is actually starting to look more likely.
Riku's vote on D_V makes me think D_V is town and Riku is trying to get a hang, but I am unsure. I seem to have had a pretty big case of confirmation bias though; looking back, D_V is scummy, but not so much as Riku or silver. Vote Rumanshi.
His initial reaction to the Gozer vote ("I wonder what happens if we don't vote for any of them") is a soft DV unalignment. Also the early elijah push.
Tried to link Fuwaslot to Rod.
His big vezok case did not age well.
If this slot is scum, I think it looks good for DV and zdtsd.
>Role isnt likely as claimed, probable protection from ghostbuster kills, possible the delayer with the marshmallow cocoon flavor
>Target n1 doesnt make sense. Fuwa top townreads grape and vaimes.
>Freely claiming targets makes zero sense from any perspective except trying town read. And just a lot of the way hes dribbled out the full claim reeks of "but wait theres more"
>position on rod wagon, just as it became clear that was happening basically. And following what looks like a super awkward distancing attempt and no vote til he got called out on it.
>also spent several posts trying to connect people to rod while not *actually* talking about rod himself
>zdt going all in on dv. Circular reasoning since best point for dv town is zdt being scum but like man look at it in that world and tell me its not scummy af
1. There is no reason that the role should protect from daykills, and it still could, if cantrip didn't say it could to keep them secret.
2. I agree target n1 doesn't make sense. But I can read too; I know who Fuwa TRed, so this is NAI.
3. I didn't "dribble out" the claim; people kept asking me for clarification. Plus, I claimed the targets because it has very limited downside, with potentially lots of upside.
4. No response to this, IDK why fuwa did this
5. same as 4
6. My going all-in on D_V was a case of confirmation bias, but D_V is still scummy.
You should have been lynched as soon as Terry flipped town.
LOL ok your conformation bias or what ever is really showing here.
Your insecurities are showing. I'm not saying I'm smarter about Terry. I'm saying the town didn't have a good reason to lynch him. I just don't know what the case was on him. I've talked about why I started to have my own doubts about Terry, I'm sorry that you are incapable of remembering or reading them or what ever your problem is. I did sort of condone, but not in the way that you are suggesting, I advise reading that post. You keep repeating yourself and keep showing how insecure you are that you lead to this and you did campaign HEAVILY for killing Terry. This falls more in your lap than it does in mine, so just calm down man. You ****ed up, IDK Why you ****ed up, IDK if it was personal or there was a good reason or what. But you did campaign HEAVILY for it. I sort of just gave in and begrudgingly at that. I didn't know that he was hard cleared, I've explained that wasn't the best usage of the word and I only used it once. I talked MULTIPLE times about being worried I was FPSING.
Unless someone thinks they have a big flip or something I'm not seeing it. I think everyone's reasoning on Terry was weak so I don't see a rhyme or reason why one person would be scummy over another. I'm sure that at least one scum got on with weak reasons, but who it is is beyond me. Ish.
Your bad at this game and I'm done talking about Terry at this point. I'm sorry that makes you feel so small, but I really just don't care.
But D_V flipping town is actually starting to look more likely.
6. My going all-in on D_V was a case of confirmation bias, but D_V is still scummy.
AHHHH IDK what to think with this guy.
@Tom the one thing I can say is FUWA isn't exactly always the strongest player and may have just picked someone at random for protection. Its not beyond the scope of Fuwa's play.
Zdt what you think of vez if dv were to flip town?
I think vez would be a lot more likely to be town if D_V flips town; a decent part of the SR I have for vezok is interactions with D_V.
But D_V flipping town is actually starting to look more likely.
Riku's vote on D_V makes me think D_V is town and Riku is trying to get a hang, but I am unsure. I seem to have had a pretty big case of confirmation bias though; looking back, D_V is scummy, but not so much as Riku or silver. Vote Rumanshi.
Why would DV flipping town make me more likely town? From a townie perspective, it makes to sense to put your neck out for other townies unless you have confirmation, because if they flip scum you get put under a lot of pressure. Meanwhile doing the same as scum links you to a town person so that when you die, they get under pressure.
Dv alignment has no correlation to my alignment. Even if DV flips scum, that doesn't make me more probable scum. It would make no sense to try to defend my buddy who is actively trying to get himself lynched when an ability that would reveal our former buddy's role is about to go off because of him.
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God I wish there was a way to take notes or save drafts directly on the forum. I'm way too lazy to use Google Docs or a QT.
Just keep using the forum then I'm enjoying reading the live journal format.
Its making your reads at least concrete so I'm a fan of that. I'm really just a fan of players throwing a lot of their opinions into the thread in general.
And yet you went from thinking Terry was hardcleared to condoning his killing. Fascinating.
You keep repeating yourself and keep showing how insecure you are that you lead to this and you did campaign HEAVILY for killing Terry. This falls more in your lap than it does in mine, so just calm down man. You ****ed up, IDK Why you ****ed up, IDK if it was personal or there was a good reason or what. But you did campaign HEAVILY for it. I sort of just gave in and begrudgingly at that. I didn't know that he was hard cleared, I've explained that wasn't the best usage of the word and I only used it once. I talked MULTIPLE times about being worried I was FPSING.
Way too much tryhard right here.
Why would I be insecure about daykilling Terry? So what?
And yet you went from thinking Terry was hardcleared to condoning his killing. Fascinating.
Dude I never thought this
I used the word ONCE AFTER he had been killed.
Get your timeline straight. Look at me talking about Fpsing Terry look at me talking about Terry not behaving how I expected. Just look.
I really do need to be done with this because its just frustrating how pig headed you are about this. I can't wait for this game to be over so your smug face can see how wrong you are and I know you won't take any blame then either. But you are so off base and so tunneled and so conformation biased I just can't help it. And for your information I wanted to put you on ignore for this. You're a jerk, and I know you are going to laugh at that, but you don't care about anything you just want to be right. You don't care if you are you just want to force it and that is all you are doing here. You are not listening to facts at all ignoring all context all analysis all everything. And you are insecure as **** that you killed Terry stop projecting onto me.
I claimed to prevent terry from being strung up. I saw it as a hard clear that he was town.
Yes, you did use that word once after Terry died... Specifically to describe what you thought prior to his being killed, claiming specifically that it was the impetus for you claiming in the first place.
Alright.
So Highroller, D_V is never going to admit what you seem to want him to. Just not ever going to happen. Everyone has seen the point you’re trying to make. Constantly hashing over the same territory just makes your point weaker. It’s basically all either of you have done/talked about this game. I get that you think you’ve caught D_V, but you can’t lynch him by yourself and what you’re doing now isn’t convincing (imo).
D_V, calling Highroller bad isn’t going to get him to stop going after you. It just makes the game feel bad. I understand you disagree with his findings, but we’re all operating with less than perfect information. If you think he’s town, than you need to move on and just accept that he’s either right town or wrong town. Continuing to engage with them over this point is a drag, and it’s not producing useful content.
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I kinda agree with all your points and I'm down to lynch ztd as I was yesterday.
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D_V (4): Highroller, KamikazeArchon, zdtsd, Rumanshi
zdtsd (3): tomsloger, EtR, vezokpiraka
Silvercrys3467 (1): D_V
Rumanshi (1): Silvercrys3467
Not Voting (2): Tubba Fett, Vaimes
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I feel like several players have already chimed in on this, but name calling and personal attacks are NOT acceptable. Please keep it civil.
No actually Tom was.
Yeah exactly. You haven't really answered the question now have you.
Look. I didn't really hammer vote Terry. I remember even when you forced my name onto that list as approval as wanting to say something then. I didn't, that is my bad. That whole thing is just a mess for my own play. Really I just let myself get talked into it and then I just sort of capitulated. I shouldn't have.
There is some truth to the rest of what you said. I think you are entirely over confidant in your own assessment of the game. Rhand flips and you go "I'll give you that one, but I'm still using the same logic." It just strikes me as someone who wants to hear themselves talk more than think about the game. Maybe you are persona posting and I've got the wrong assessment of you, hell the part that everyone thinks is offensive is probabally the least offensive thing I've seen ever and makes me feel better about you as a person. Funny that.
Also, just as an aside I don't think HR said anything to get feathers ruffled over. I'm really surprised people are taking issue with that as being offensive. HR if anyone gives you ***** for that ignore them cause I don't really think you flamed me much(Maybe that last sentence, but there is some truth to that so LOL).
@Tom see Playstation also @DV see playstation see how right you were but LOL nobody listened now why was that.
Let me point to two things.
First, I think a lot of your analysis on me is bad, because its very myopic. I've produced copious amounts of content, and you've really only focused on the Terry thing. Really at the end of the day that's all you've got. It just seems absurd to me. When I call it bad, what I mean is it doesn't take the scope of what I'm posting, you don't seem to be interested in analyzing anything else. You just seem to want to straw man my arguments, reduce them down to making me only having made ad homs, which I have done, but I've done a lot more as well. So to me, it seems that you are way more interested in puffing out your own chest and claiming to be right, then actually doing the work to be right. Terry is a good example of this, I'm still unsure why you voted Terry, you've given some reasons, but I hope even you realize that they are weak.
But secondly, the way you argue is bad to me. Take for example the band wagon argument, you sort of repeated what had already been said and this had already been addressed. You wanted to argue that the band wagon is scummy, and you just sort of throw up that premise with no backing, and then on top of that ignore that the premise has already been proven largely false. You then make a sort of legitimate argument that I was on both wagons, but so were others as well. You skate past that fact and I'm not sure why. I think this is a lot of conformation bias, where you think Tom is town and so are ignoring that. I think that's wrong. Vez I think was also on both of the "Band wagons" and you skate past that as well. You just say "DV was on the band wagon so DV was scummy." Its a farce, you don't back the premise up and you just sort of state it as fact. It doesn't even really make any sense.
To me you seem like an intelligent enough person that you should know you are making these arguments. And that you are largely trying to force them in. So it seems to me that you care much more about appearing right, then actually being right. If I've gotten this wrong I'm sorry. I just feel like you are not interested in trying to solve the game, and that you just want to claim victory. I'd also point to the flavor gaming. Like I just feel like you want to speak and be heard and don't want to actually work on solving the game. Additionally the fact that you have apparently flavor gamed before and I assume were told how bad it was at the end of the game makes me have these thoughts on you even more. It just seems like a pattern to me.
I’m probably gonna end up back on DV but I’ll at least not be lazy about it.
zdtsd slot should not endgame but I’m meh about lynching the only protective claim. I need to look at the slot’s body of work as a whole.
But D_V has been running around trying to claim himself as some sort of Cassandra figure, a prophet no one listened to saying Terry was town. "I was right about Terry!" he cries, "Look at how much better I am at the game than you!"
Except, he also put Terry on his mafia list and said he was totally fine with Terry's daykill, and was the 7th vote in that regard. You can't enter a binary scenario in which someone is either town or not town, take up both positions, and then say you were right when he turned out to be town. To claim he was right on Terry is ridiculous.
It also makes him extraordinarily suspicious because he was really the only one besides Terry himself who defended Terry, yet within two pages he goes from - his words - "hardclearing" Terry to being the hammervote in Terry's daykill. So when he runs around saying there was no reason to kill Terry, the immediate response is, "Ok, then WHY DID YOU THINK IT WAS FINE TO KILL HIM?" D_V had even less reason to kill Terry than anyone else on that wagon, because none of the other six of us was running around claiming to have hardcleared him.
What are you talking about? "Use my powers"?
Also, what do you mean "other people in the scum team?" If you agree D_V is mafia, why aren't you trying to lynch him?
If you fundamentally think that Vezok thinks I'm scum you have not been reading the game.
I didn't clear Terry its like you are just ignoring anything I have said at all. This is what I mean about you winning the argument. You fundamentally refuse to take any evidence at all and strong arm all arguments used to pursue a single goal. Like come on man you know what Vez means with that statement, you know Vez doesn't think I'm scum. Yet you take this ludicrous straw man argument of his thoughts.
Stop being a "Its cold outside so how can global warming exists" arguer. Just stop man.
How do you know you'll end up on me? Before you've put any work in?
Can you replace so we can get IDK TappingStones? Cause like I'd take that over what ever this attitude is.
You were directing the scum team and we were following duh.
You clearly thought you did.
Sorry.
I didn't clear him to be mowed down.
Also Vezok's implication is go elsewhere. But you seem uninterested in doing so. If you need me to help you understand any other basic logical conclusions I can help at any time.
Keep trying to win that argument bro. **** the truth make yourself feel big though.
You really need to stop with the attitude. You may think it’s okay in games to call people bad or stupid or pick fights, but I’m not here for it and am more than happy to bow out if you insist on keeping it up.
That's my bad I automatically assumed the worst with the way the post was structured.
That's equivocally not true.
Do you need help in understanding context, wording, overall thoughts? Cause like with the Vez comments and other comments it just seems like English is a second language? I'm not trying to insult, it just seems like you don't understand context. Or how people talk. Or anything that could clue you in on what a person means.
In this scenario I was calling for anyone bellow Terry, I wasn't really calling for Terry. I was sort of permissively saying it wasn't the worst, but I wasn't advocating for it. I really don't know how else to explain this to you. Its just basic English.
Actually I'm going to follow this up.
Vaimes I took frustration out on you that I shouldn't have. Sorry.
That's how bad it is.
I'm working some really short shifts over the next few days so I'll use that time to try and slog through this game. Probably only gonna focus on the lynch candidates + meaningful interactions with other slots.
I can’t reconcile in my head the fact that we have a cocoon person that keeps people cocooned and a slimmer that keeps people slimed.
I laughed pretty hard at this.
Been there thought the same things. After the game then and alignments are revealed.
That's a good place as any to park my vote while I'm weighing options.
There are other things sprinkled in his ISO that I think are +town, but I'm comfortable leaving him be.
I absolutely cannot remember.
Yes Vezok is town I've been screaming this for almost a month IRL now.
VEZOK IS TOWN PEOPLE. Listen to Vaimes if you won't listen to me.
And now you're trying to run around saying how much smarter than everyone else you are that you were right about Terry.
So explain how you were right about Terry when you openly condoned a daykill of him?
Because you can't have it both ways. You can't say there was no reason to kill Terry when you openly condoned killing him, because that attempt to discredit people not only also applies to you, but applies to you doubly so, because no one else on the bandwagon thought Terry was hardcleared.
You should have been lynched as soon as Terry flipped town.
I think vez would be a lot more likely to be town if D_V flips town; a decent part of the SR I have for vezok is interactions with D_V.
But D_V flipping town is actually starting to look more likely.
Riku's vote on D_V makes me think D_V is town and Riku is trying to get a hang, but I am unsure. I seem to have had a pretty big case of confirmation bias though; looking back, D_V is scummy, but not so much as Riku or silver. Vote Rumanshi.
Deal with it.
His initial reaction to the Gozer vote ("I wonder what happens if we don't vote for any of them") is a soft DV unalignment. Also the early elijah push.
Tried to link Fuwaslot to Rod.
His big vezok case did not age well.
If this slot is scum, I think it looks good for DV and zdtsd.
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EtR, why is tom your top townread?
1. There is no reason that the role should protect from daykills, and it still could, if cantrip didn't say it could to keep them secret.
2. I agree target n1 doesn't make sense. But I can read too; I know who Fuwa TRed, so this is NAI.
3. I didn't "dribble out" the claim; people kept asking me for clarification. Plus, I claimed the targets because it has very limited downside, with potentially lots of upside.
4. No response to this, IDK why fuwa did this
5. same as 4
6. My going all-in on D_V was a case of confirmation bias, but D_V is still scummy.
Deal with it.
I'm begging anybody with firepower, please. Flip it.
LOL ok your conformation bias or what ever is really showing here.
Your insecurities are showing. I'm not saying I'm smarter about Terry. I'm saying the town didn't have a good reason to lynch him. I just don't know what the case was on him. I've talked about why I started to have my own doubts about Terry, I'm sorry that you are incapable of remembering or reading them or what ever your problem is. I did sort of condone, but not in the way that you are suggesting, I advise reading that post. You keep repeating yourself and keep showing how insecure you are that you lead to this and you did campaign HEAVILY for killing Terry. This falls more in your lap than it does in mine, so just calm down man. You ****ed up, IDK Why you ****ed up, IDK if it was personal or there was a good reason or what. But you did campaign HEAVILY for it. I sort of just gave in and begrudgingly at that. I didn't know that he was hard cleared, I've explained that wasn't the best usage of the word and I only used it once. I talked MULTIPLE times about being worried I was FPSING.
Unless someone thinks they have a big flip or something I'm not seeing it. I think everyone's reasoning on Terry was weak so I don't see a rhyme or reason why one person would be scummy over another. I'm sure that at least one scum got on with weak reasons, but who it is is beyond me. Ish.
Your bad at this game and I'm done talking about Terry at this point. I'm sorry that makes you feel so small, but I really just don't care.
AHHHH IDK what to think with this guy.
@Tom the one thing I can say is FUWA isn't exactly always the strongest player and may have just picked someone at random for protection. Its not beyond the scope of Fuwa's play.
Why would DV flipping town make me more likely town? From a townie perspective, it makes to sense to put your neck out for other townies unless you have confirmation, because if they flip scum you get put under a lot of pressure. Meanwhile doing the same as scum links you to a town person so that when you die, they get under pressure.
Dv alignment has no correlation to my alignment. Even if DV flips scum, that doesn't make me more probable scum. It would make no sense to try to defend my buddy who is actively trying to get himself lynched when an ability that would reveal our former buddy's role is about to go off because of him.
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Just keep using the forum then I'm enjoying reading the live journal format.
Its making your reads at least concrete so I'm a fan of that. I'm really just a fan of players throwing a lot of their opinions into the thread in general.
DVa lol. Just can't help yourself.
Give me like 2 anime recommendations I'm determining your alignment based on that.
Way too much tryhard right here.
Why would I be insecure about daykilling Terry? So what?
Why?
Dude I never thought this
I used the word ONCE AFTER he had been killed.
Get your timeline straight. Look at me talking about Fpsing Terry look at me talking about Terry not behaving how I expected. Just look.
I really do need to be done with this because its just frustrating how pig headed you are about this. I can't wait for this game to be over so your smug face can see how wrong you are and I know you won't take any blame then either. But you are so off base and so tunneled and so conformation biased I just can't help it. And for your information I wanted to put you on ignore for this. You're a jerk, and I know you are going to laugh at that, but you don't care about anything you just want to be right. You don't care if you are you just want to force it and that is all you are doing here. You are not listening to facts at all ignoring all context all analysis all everything. And you are insecure as **** that you killed Terry stop projecting onto me.
Highschool DxD
Black Clover
Acchi Kocchi
zdtsd (4): tom, EtR, vezok, ruma
Rumanshi (3): Silver, vaimes, zdtsd
DV (2): Highroller, Kami
Silver (1): DV
Not Voting (1): Tubba
Yes, you did use that word once after Terry died... Specifically to describe what you thought prior to his being killed, claiming specifically that it was the impetus for you claiming in the first place.
Oh no, you did. You said so yourself.
Did someone just get caught lying to the town? Tsk tsk.
That's three.
But these are all decent, yet a random assortment.
Town.
But really because that wagon is gross as ****.
Unvote Vote zdtsd
So Highroller, D_V is never going to admit what you seem to want him to. Just not ever going to happen. Everyone has seen the point you’re trying to make. Constantly hashing over the same territory just makes your point weaker. It’s basically all either of you have done/talked about this game. I get that you think you’ve caught D_V, but you can’t lynch him by yourself and what you’re doing now isn’t convincing (imo).
D_V, calling Highroller bad isn’t going to get him to stop going after you. It just makes the game feel bad. I understand you disagree with his findings, but we’re all operating with less than perfect information. If you think he’s town, than you need to move on and just accept that he’s either right town or wrong town. Continuing to engage with them over this point is a drag, and it’s not producing useful content.