If it's actually going to be a problem, anyone reading your iso knows you don't check me. You defended me at one point. You asked to be checked yourself.
I also heavily hinted at being the gunsmith yesterday. It wasn't ideal, but that's what it came to. And I definitely stated clearly you were my preferred target for the check.
Even if I were scum, my claim means I risked checking someone who wasn't the gunsmith which would instantly frame myself as scum. So.
I lie ***** tonne. Anyone who knows e would know RE is who check. you hinted a power role = Scum is a power role. Dont fall for this guys trap
I didn't just hint power role. I hinted specifically gunsmith. Hence me asking not to be shot. You not realizing this or not caring at the time = you not gunsmith.
No trap. You didn't even have an original scumread yesterday, let alone a scumread on me. I caught you first, and now your only way of escaping a lynch is by counter claiming me.
HHinting ggunsmit is hinting vig. It's a matter of protection. I assumed u were hunting gunsmith to take the night shot.
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HHinting ggunsmit is hinting vig. It's a matter of protection. I assumed u were hunting gunsmith to take the night shot.
No? I hinted at it because I was put at L-1 like twice. I asked people if I was their top suspect to make sure they would take responsibility for outing me. Ideally I wouldn't have had to hint at it, but it was better than wasting the vig shot when I could have been confirmed easily.
It's not the same, especially since there was some agreement over shooting me at night. I wouldn't have requested to not be shot if I had control over the shot.
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HHinting ggunsmit is hinting vig. It's a matter of protection. I assumed u were hunting gunsmith to take the night shot.
No? I hinted at it because I was put at L-1 like twice. I asked people if I was their top suspect to make sure they would take responsibility for outing me. Ideally I wouldn't have had to hint at it, but it was better than wasting the vig shot when I could have been confirmed easily.
It's not the same, especially since there was some agreement over shooting me at night. I wouldn't have requested to not be shot if I had control over the shot.
WINE territory. it's totally likely for all the scenarios ur saying wouldn't be done if u weren't gunsmith would be something to do as u were under suspicion. Everything you did can be from either power role, a vanilla or scum. Justthe reasoning changes.
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WINE territory. it's totally likely for all the scenarios ur saying wouldn't be done if u weren't gunsmith would be something to do as u were under suspicion. Everything you did can be from either power role, a vanilla or scum. Justthe reasoning changes.
No, it doesn't. A vanilla wastes a lynch that way. Scum draws unnecessary attention towards themselves.
And if you really suspected me, you would have pushed me for the claim. Otherwise you're admitting you checked me while well aware that the check might have been wasted had I been successful in eating this night kill.
I mean, really, it should be obvious that you are scum in this situation. I claimed first. I claimed the check on the person I said I would check. That person was someone I had been suspecting well before night began. Your claim is convenient for yourself and has nothing to back it up.
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WINE territory. it's totally likely for all the scenarios ur saying wouldn't be done if u weren't gunsmith would be something to do as u were under suspicion. Everything you did can be from either power role, a vanilla or scum. Justthe reasoning changes.
No, it doesn't. A vanilla wastes a lynch that way. Scum draws unnecessary attention towards themselves.
And if you really suspected me, you would have pushed me for the claim. Otherwise you're admitting you checked me while well aware that the check might have been wasted had I been successful in eating this night kill.
I mean, really, it should be obvious that you are scum in this situation. I claimed first. I claimed the check on the person I said I would check. That person was someone I had been suspecting well before night began. Your claim is convenient for yourself and has nothing to back it up.
Says the pot calling the kettle black
Please, save yoursel the trouble and waitfor the others
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vote: Rum
I trust RE over Rum, also the earlier pocketing on me, reminds me of token mafia, where he called me town for similiar reasons... If I was the gunsmith, Id check him over anyone else as well
Hmm, I hadn't realized Slave's vote put me at L-1 range.
@Shattiel @Slave
Am I your top suspect right now?
I asked this because unless there was actually intent to hammer me, I didn't want to claim since it would mean I automatically die at night and lose a chance at catching scum or clearing someone.
I'm with RE, their version of events is consistent, believable, and natural, while Rumanshi's is anything but. I don't see any particular need to drag this out, ready to hammer if you guys are good with that
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Keep smokin and my face numb, windows down, smokin loud, like ***** say somethin
smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
I'm with RE, their version of events is consistent, believable, and natural, while Rumanshi's is anything but. I don't see any particular need to drag this out, ready to hammer if you guys are good with that
What, no. I am wild no matter what. Consistency does not = Town.
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I'm with RE, their version of events is consistent, believable, and natural, while Rumanshi's is anything but. I don't see any particular need to drag this out, ready to hammer if you guys are good with that
What, no. I am wild no matter what. Consistency does not = Town.
When it comes to claims, consistency is absolutely necessary.
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Keep smokin and my face numb, windows down, smokin loud, like ***** say somethin
smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
"And why would you want to kill me? I can complete the Kessel run in und---"
*SNAP*
*GURGLE*
"GREEDO SHOT FIRST, YA DWEEB!!!"
Rumanshi has been lynched.
He was... Mafia Goon.
Town has won the game.
Welcome to the game, Rumanshi. You are a Mafia Goon. You just bought a new Colt 45-70 Peacemaker and just want to test it out on some unsuspecting individuals. They owe you money anyways, and you're tired of having to hunt them down and threaten them. It's time for them to pay up. THIS MEANS WAR.
You have a factional kill which can be used each night to blow another player out of the game. Get your mind out of the gutter. That player will be eliminated. For great justice.
You also have access to factional chat here. Use it wisely.
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Willkommen im Spiel, Lastwhisper. Ihre Rolle PM ist humorlos. Du bist ein Vanille-Städter.
Du hast keine Fähigkeiten.
Du gewinnst, wenn die Mafia eliminiert wird.
Bestätigen Sie den Eingang dieser Rolle PM, indem Sie hier antworten.
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You have no abilities.
You win if the Mafia is eliminated.
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You have no abilities.
I hope it isn't too confusing. Maybe this is a first for you. Have you ever had a Role PM written partially backwards? You are a Vanilla Townie. Welcome to the game, Slave of Bezos.
Welcome to the game.
You're a Vanilla Townie,
O13livion_IX.
No surprises here,
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It's such a twist, right?
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Welcome to the game, Iso. You are a Vanilla Townie. You got left at home by your parents, since you just turned 12 and are now old enough. But you are a little scared. You heard gunshots from outside, and they seem to be getting closer. You're holding your favorite Magic card, Chosen of Markov, closely, as it reminds you of your crush.
And the gunshots get closer.
And you hug the card to your chest.
And closer.
And you curl up with the card underneath the bed. That always works in the movies, right?
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Welcome to the game, RE1031. You are the Town 1-shot Gunsmith. You have only ever sold two guns in your lifetime, but you do not remember to whom you sold them. But you would recognize those two guns. And you are willing to climb through someone's bedroom window to do so to prevent the senseless waste of human life. Creepy curmudgeon.
Your abilities are:
I have a bad feeling about this (1-shot): Once per game, as a Night action, you may sneak through another player's window and check to see if they have one of your guns.
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Welcome to the game, Shattiel. You are the Town 1-Shot Vigilante. Usually you stay home polishing anything metal that you can get your hands on. Gotta have that blindingly bright sheen on your belt buckles, door handles, bullets, artificial legs, bottle openers… Sometimes your guns go off when you are polishing them, though. All in good fun. Not like you would ever hurt someone, right?
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Shoot them in the face (1-shot): Once per game, as a Night action, you may shoot another player in the face. Yes, you are that brutal.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
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Good job, guys. I may not have gotten the mafia, but my actions led to the gamesolving sequence of events, so yay?
I know this is a bit tongue in cheek, but I think you'd get a lot further in Mafia (and life in general) if you had more humility and ability to put your hands up and say "Whoops, I got it totally wrong this time, sorry for being overconfident. Looks like I can learn some lessons here", instead of trying to be the focus and take as much credit as you can.
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So I think the scum rarely wants to shoot at night unless they're pretty sure about the gunsmith.
I don't really like the idea of a Mafia game where the correct play is usually for the scum to not shoot (since that's one half of the point of there being mafia at all), but it seemed like a better Dethy-type game where there are puzzle elements, but also space to actually play the behavioral game.
Good job, guys. I may not have gotten the mafia, but my actions led to the gamesolving sequence of events, so yay?
I know this is a bit tongue in cheek, but I think you'd get a lot further in Mafia (and life in general) if you had more humility and ability to put your hands up and say "Whoops, I got it totally wrong this time, sorry for being overconfident. Looks like I can learn some lessons here", instead of trying to be the focus and take as much credit as you can.
If you know it's tongue-in-cheek, then isn't it kind of moot to make this point?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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HHinting ggunsmit is hinting vig. It's a matter of protection. I assumed u were hunting gunsmith to take the night shot.
It's not the same, especially since there was some agreement over shooting me at night. I wouldn't have requested to not be shot if I had control over the shot.
WINE territory. it's totally likely for all the scenarios ur saying wouldn't be done if u weren't gunsmith would be something to do as u were under suspicion. Everything you did can be from either power role, a vanilla or scum. Justthe reasoning changes.
And if you really suspected me, you would have pushed me for the claim. Otherwise you're admitting you checked me while well aware that the check might have been wasted had I been successful in eating this night kill.
I mean, really, it should be obvious that you are scum in this situation. I claimed first. I claimed the check on the person I said I would check. That person was someone I had been suspecting well before night began. Your claim is convenient for yourself and has nothing to back it up.
Says the pot calling the kettle black
Please, save yoursel the trouble and waitfor the others
I am waiting, but... Nothing wrong with countering you in the meanwhile.
I trust RE over Rum, also the earlier pocketing on me, reminds me of token mafia, where he called me town for similiar reasons... If I was the gunsmith, Id check him over anyone else as well
where did you hint at it?
smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
What, no. I am wild no matter what. Consistency does not = Town.
@013livion
Hammer away
Im ready
@RE
glad that Tainted didnt shoot you instead xD, sorry RE
smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
@Besos
@Iso
sorry my friends...
Rumanshi has been lynched.
He was... Mafia Goon.
Town has won the game.
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Du hast keine Fähigkeiten.
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Welcome to the game, Lastwhisper. This Role PM is humourless. You are Vanilla Townie.
You have no abilities.
You win if the Mafia is eliminated.
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You win if the Mafia is eliminated.
You have no abilities.
I hope it isn't too confusing. Maybe this is a first for you. Have you ever had a Role PM written partially backwards? You are a Vanilla Townie. Welcome to the game, Slave of Bezos.
You're a Vanilla Townie,
O13livion_IX.
No surprises here,
You have got no abilities.
It's such a twist, right?
Your win condition:
Eliminating those who
Are the Mafia.
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And the gunshots get closer.
And you hug the card to your chest.
And closer.
And you curl up with the card underneath the bed. That always works in the movies, right?
You have no abilities. You win if the Mafia is eliminated.
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Your abilities are:
You win if the Mafia is eliminated.
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Your abilities are:
You win if the Mafia is eliminated.
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Thank you for playing! Follow-up thoughts to follow.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Town wants to coordinate but not enough that they lose the gunsmith advantage.
All in all, this seems like it's reasonably balanced.
I know this is a bit tongue in cheek, but I think you'd get a lot further in Mafia (and life in general) if you had more humility and ability to put your hands up and say "Whoops, I got it totally wrong this time, sorry for being overconfident. Looks like I can learn some lessons here", instead of trying to be the focus and take as much credit as you can.
I don't really like the idea of a Mafia game where the correct play is usually for the scum to not shoot (since that's one half of the point of there being mafia at all), but it seemed like a better Dethy-type game where there are puzzle elements, but also space to actually play the behavioral game.
Why wouldn't the scum want to shoot? Does this gunsmith only detect people who have actually killed someone or something?
Lol what? Yeah I guess that's a thing. Huh.
If you know it's tongue-in-cheek, then isn't it kind of moot to make this point?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player