Think the overall tenor of his early interaction with tom, pressing tom over the Nacho/Manasi connection, is pretty classic "pushing something that looks wolfy vs. pushing on something that actually makes someone likely to flip wolf." 44, for example, is pretty level 0 shade, and I struggle to think DV actually believes the question he's asking is a good one.
53 is a somewhat better post; it reads a lot more like he's actually trying to understand tom than just mindlessly shading him. What bothers me tonally about it is the sheer, like... blustery, patronizing tonality of it, but from some comments tom has made it seems like this is kinda par for the course with DV, so it's probably more of a "not a fan of this" feeling than a "this is wolfy" feeling.
This insistence on his incorrect PoV, continuing to argue the semantics in 58 kinda smells like a wolf latching on to something NAI they can argue about. Like wolves that get all up in arms D1 about mafia theory so they can have good tone/passion talking about something that's true from their POV and not one of the lies wolves are forced to make when they start actually talking about the game.
Similarly, the interaction with Nacho around 63 is either a villager who has a... rather rigid idea of How Town Should Play, or a wolf who's latching on to something that's easy to attack. Nacho's kind of bemused "yes I did this, why is it a problem?" line is an invitation to examine Nacho's mindset with some degree of nuance/depth that DV just doesn't seem to be interested in, instead continuing to hammer home his "you asked a question and didn't wait for a response before you voted, that is BAD" type reasoning, which is... yeah.
Not a fan of 71 - the shade at Nacho is blunted by the "I can't decide if this is true", but plants the idea that Nacho's question was a (implied wolfy) reaction to pressure. Instead of actually accusing Nacho of that, it's just, like... this floating idea that DV can just merrily whistle his way away from at his leisure.
I think a potential villagery angle to his early tom interaction is that, if DV is indeed a villager, there's not just a "I don't get this", it's a "this is pointless" kind of frustration, which you can see in posts like 97. If that's the case, it's exactly the kind of hypocrisy (frustrated that something is X, but contributing to it being X by continuing to pole at it) that I associate with villagers. It's a bad look, but I see that kind of semi-contradiction coming from villagers more often than rand.
Then we get to like, 10+ posts about psychology and it's just zzzzzzzzzzz. Think this meshes nicely into the whole tom/nacho thing I talked about earlier, where it's a wolf smokescreen (talking about things he believes to be true as either alignment to avoid having to fake real thoughts), or just a villager with some, ah, strong opinions Think the key to differentiating this is what he's doing and not doing outside of that. The general level of activity / prodding people to post thoughts is a decent surface level look on that front.
Pretty heavily dislike his read on me, shown in 365 and 647. It's like... dude is calling me probably a villager and then finding like 392929 tiny ways to swipe at me, and it doesn't feel like "I'm town and I have some doubts on this read," it feels like "I'm a wolf and I want this person to go away but I'm either afraid of going for the pocket, or I'm genuinely frustrated I can't mislynch this".
After reading Newcomb I think their conclusion on me is pretty bad/minimalist/what ever. But, I think it looks like catch up posts and I think I get where he's coming from. I'd mark him somewhere in the light town reads.
Like, that's almost exactly what I post as a wolf to people I don't want to deal with. In villager!DV worlds, I'd like to think there'd be a little more depth and nuance to this - calling something bad/minimalist/what ever and then slapping a light village read on it isn't bad in and of itself, but the fact that there's no, like... I don't see him actually working through the read, I just see him slapping some duct tape over it and hoping it holds.
Kiiiiinda think this is villagery frustration? Can understand the exasperation here, at least.
I'm not in love with 526, specifically the bit where he goes "There is a very good response you can make, be interesting to see what your response is." If that's an actual thought - like, town!DV is looking for something specific, why tip your hand? Does a villager really go, "hey, person whose alignment I don't know, answer me this question, and by the way, there's a good answer I'll townread you for." It's... ehh, I suppose I could see a villager doing it, and just not really thinking about it in those terms? Would fit with DV's general level of, idk, "it's DV's world, we're all just living in it" vibe that he's giving off.
The wallpost has some decent stuff in it. Tilting my head at stuff like the Nacho read, which just feels....
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I’m town reading Nacho for the moment. The way he answered my pressure on him felt town to me. My only pause with Nacho is once again, I’m not 100% on how he feels on the thread at large. I think he is pretty town right now in the way that he is posting and thinking.
... like, almost entirely empty. "Good response to pressure, but he hasn't done a lot." Like, this is almost at the level of "Nacho is town because he feels town." I'm not super opposed to reads like that, as long as they don't pretend to be anything other than they are, but this feels dressed up enough to ring my bell on that front, at least a bit.
I dig the read on Visor; I mean, sure, surface level could say " They talk in a way that seems as though they are town to themselves" is kind of a TMI thing, but if you're a wolf I think you don't even really think to point this out? Because most of the people in the thread are kinda doing that from your PoV. It's also a read on Visor this game that I somewhat agree with, so.
You're going to have to quote that to back that up. Because I've never been freaking out about anything Tom has been posting.
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Pretty happy with my vote where it is; I'm not coming out of this thinking DV's a lock wolf or anything, but overall I see a pretty bad ratio here of words:meaningful words. Like, his recent 4-5 post on manasi are just pounce, pounce, pounce, you're not reading the thread, you're a lurker, you're bad at the game, blah blah blah. There's very little substance to it and the questions he's asking her don't really strike me as sorting, they seem more like pushing an angle.
Kinda doubt we lynch this slot toDay with the amount of lurkers ITT, and I don't think I'm sold enough on the wolf read to shove in on it, but I'm definitely not coming out of his ISO with a village read.
This post cannot be surmised by what you claim DV. There are multiple avenues of attack and you outright dismissed them and raged at newcomb.
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Think the overall tenor of his early interaction with tom, pressing tom over the Nacho/Manasi connection, is pretty classic "pushing something that looks wolfy vs. pushing on something that actually makes someone likely to flip wolf." 44, for example, is pretty level 0 shade, and I struggle to think DV actually believes the question he's asking is a good one.
53 is a somewhat better post; it reads a lot more like he's actually trying to understand tom than just mindlessly shading him. What bothers me tonally about it is the sheer, like... blustery, patronizing tonality of it, but from some comments tom has made it seems like this is kinda par for the course with DV, so it's probably more of a "not a fan of this" feeling than a "this is wolfy" feeling.
This insistence on his incorrect PoV, continuing to argue the semantics in 58 kinda smells like a wolf latching on to something NAI they can argue about. Like wolves that get all up in arms D1 about mafia theory so they can have good tone/passion talking about something that's true from their POV and not one of the lies wolves are forced to make when they start actually talking about the game.
Similarly, the interaction with Nacho around 63 is either a villager who has a... rather rigid idea of How Town Should Play, or a wolf who's latching on to something that's easy to attack. Nacho's kind of bemused "yes I did this, why is it a problem?" line is an invitation to examine Nacho's mindset with some degree of nuance/depth that DV just doesn't seem to be interested in, instead continuing to hammer home his "you asked a question and didn't wait for a response before you voted, that is BAD" type reasoning, which is... yeah.
Not a fan of 71 - the shade at Nacho is blunted by the "I can't decide if this is true", but plants the idea that Nacho's question was a (implied wolfy) reaction to pressure. Instead of actually accusing Nacho of that, it's just, like... this floating idea that DV can just merrily whistle his way away from at his leisure.
I think a potential villagery angle to his early tom interaction is that, if DV is indeed a villager, there's not just a "I don't get this", it's a "this is pointless" kind of frustration, which you can see in posts like 97. If that's the case, it's exactly the kind of hypocrisy (frustrated that something is X, but contributing to it being X by continuing to pole at it) that I associate with villagers. It's a bad look, but I see that kind of semi-contradiction coming from villagers more often than rand.
Then we get to like, 10+ posts about psychology and it's just zzzzzzzzzzz. Think this meshes nicely into the whole tom/nacho thing I talked about earlier, where it's a wolf smokescreen (talking about things he believes to be true as either alignment to avoid having to fake real thoughts), or just a villager with some, ah, strong opinions Think the key to differentiating this is what he's doing and not doing outside of that. The general level of activity / prodding people to post thoughts is a decent surface level look on that front.
Pretty heavily dislike his read on me, shown in 365 and 647. It's like... dude is calling me probably a villager and then finding like 392929 tiny ways to swipe at me, and it doesn't feel like "I'm town and I have some doubts on this read," it feels like "I'm a wolf and I want this person to go away but I'm either afraid of going for the pocket, or I'm genuinely frustrated I can't mislynch this".
After reading Newcomb I think their conclusion on me is pretty bad/minimalist/what ever. But, I think it looks like catch up posts and I think I get where he's coming from. I'd mark him somewhere in the light town reads.
Like, that's almost exactly what I post as a wolf to people I don't want to deal with. In villager!DV worlds, I'd like to think there'd be a little more depth and nuance to this - calling something bad/minimalist/what ever and then slapping a light village read on it isn't bad in and of itself, but the fact that there's no, like... I don't see him actually working through the read, I just see him slapping some duct tape over it and hoping it holds.
Kiiiiinda think this is villagery frustration? Can understand the exasperation here, at least.
I'm not in love with 526, specifically the bit where he goes "There is a very good response you can make, be interesting to see what your response is." If that's an actual thought - like, town!DV is looking for something specific, why tip your hand? Does a villager really go, "hey, person whose alignment I don't know, answer me this question, and by the way, there's a good answer I'll townread you for." It's... ehh, I suppose I could see a villager doing it, and just not really thinking about it in those terms? Would fit with DV's general level of, idk, "it's DV's world, we're all just living in it" vibe that he's giving off.
The wallpost has some decent stuff in it. Tilting my head at stuff like the Nacho read, which just feels....
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I’m town reading Nacho for the moment. The way he answered my pressure on him felt town to me. My only pause with Nacho is once again, I’m not 100% on how he feels on the thread at large. I think he is pretty town right now in the way that he is posting and thinking.
... like, almost entirely empty. "Good response to pressure, but he hasn't done a lot." Like, this is almost at the level of "Nacho is town because he feels town." I'm not super opposed to reads like that, as long as they don't pretend to be anything other than they are, but this feels dressed up enough to ring my bell on that front, at least a bit.
I dig the read on Visor; I mean, sure, surface level could say " They talk in a way that seems as though they are town to themselves" is kind of a TMI thing, but if you're a wolf I think you don't even really think to point this out? Because most of the people in the thread are kinda doing that from your PoV. It's also a read on Visor this game that I somewhat agree with, so.
You're going to have to quote that to back that up. Because I've never been freaking out about anything Tom has been posting.
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Pretty happy with my vote where it is; I'm not coming out of this thinking DV's a lock wolf or anything, but overall I see a pretty bad ratio here of words:meaningful words. Like, his recent 4-5 post on manasi are just pounce, pounce, pounce, you're not reading the thread, you're a lurker, you're bad at the game, blah blah blah. There's very little substance to it and the questions he's asking her don't really strike me as sorting, they seem more like pushing an angle.
Kinda doubt we lynch this slot toDay with the amount of lurkers ITT, and I don't think I'm sold enough on the wolf read to shove in on it, but I'm definitely not coming out of his ISO with a village read.
This post cannot be surmised by what you claim DV. There are multiple avenues of attack and you outright dismissed them and raged at newcomb.
Vezo, there's no point in arguing with DV about my case on him. He's not gonna admit he has a wolf role PM, etc.
Like, what do you expect him to do? "Gee golly, you got me, well played good sir."
He either has to just OMGUS me (already tried it, didn't work), try to handwave it away (in progress), or village read me and try to appeal to my reasonableness (I'm excited for this one!).
The thing he's not doing, which would be the villagery thing to do when you're up for lynch D1 and the counterwagon that you've been trying to get lynched claims PR, is to re-evaluate reads / question assumptions / start pushing a "wagons are v/v, wolves are doing X" narrative that's based on a genuine re-assessment of the gamestate.
The thing he's not doing, which would be the villagery thing to do when you're up for lynch D1 and the counterwagon that you've been trying to get lynched claims PR, is to re-evaluate reads / question assumptions / start pushing a "wagons are v/v, wolves are doing X" narrative that's based on a genuine re-assessment of the gamestate.
The thing he's not doing, which would be the villagery thing to do when you're up for lynch D1 and the counterwagon that you've been trying to get lynched claims PR, is to re-evaluate reads / question assumptions / start pushing a "wagons are v/v, wolves are doing X" narrative that's based on a genuine re-assessment of the gamestate.
That sounds like something townnewcomb would do
Doesn't sound like DV of any alignment
Alright, tom, what alignment is DV when his reaction to his counterwagon claiming uncc'd PR is "my team thinks this is a wolf fakeclaiming, no, wait they don't anymore. Vote: nobody"?
The thing he's not doing, which would be the villagery thing to do when you're up for lynch D1 and the counterwagon that you've been trying to get lynched claims PR, is to re-evaluate reads / question assumptions / start pushing a "wagons are v/v, wolves are doing X" narrative that's based on a genuine re-assessment of the gamestate.
That sounds like something townnewcomb would do
Doesn't sound like DV of any alignment
Alright, tom, what alignment is DV when his reaction to his counterwagon claiming uncc'd PR is "my team thinks this is a wolf fakeclaiming, no, wait they don't anymore. Vote: nobody"?
Also I'd prefer lynching DV to vigging him, because wagon analysis would be a lot more helpful and a vig shot can be tampered with.
@tom thoughts on this post?
i hate that his shot is so impersonal to him. "A vig shot" not "my shot"
And DV is right that vez isn't the type to do wagon analysis, so this seems a little like regurgitating Things Town Says
I'm just ***** posting till mod kills, and waiting for Vezo to bullet point Newcomb's case. Because I legit only see that DV is aggressive with like a couple really minor meh points mixed in.
Also I'd prefer lynching DV to vigging him, because wagon analysis would be a lot more helpful and a vig shot can be tampered with.
@tom thoughts on this post?
i hate that his shot is so impersonal to him. "A vig shot" not "my shot"
And DV is right that vez isn't the type to do wagon analysis, so this seems a little like regurgitating Things Town Says
Its... a pretty scummy post
Just because I don't do wagon analysis doesn't mean other people can't do it.
How is this even a point of questioning?
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Also I'd prefer lynching DV to vigging him, because wagon analysis would be a lot more helpful and a vig shot can be tampered with.
@tom thoughts on this post?
i hate that his shot is so impersonal to him. "A vig shot" not "my shot"
And DV is right that vez isn't the type to do wagon analysis, so this seems a little like regurgitating Things Town Says
Its... a pretty scummy post
Just because I don't do wagon analysis doesn't mean other people can't do it.
How is this even a point of questioning?
no it's not a point of questioning it already happened and it is noted.
You ain't gonna care when others do wagonalysis, so it just looks like saying words
Also I'd prefer lynching DV to vigging him, because wagon analysis would be a lot more helpful and a vig shot can be tampered with.
@tom thoughts on this post?
i hate that his shot is so impersonal to him. "A vig shot" not "my shot"
And DV is right that vez isn't the type to do wagon analysis, so this seems a little like regurgitating Things Town Says
Its... a pretty scummy post
I mean at that point he's literally just said "We can do wagon analysis on the wagon
Just because I don't do wagon analysis doesn't mean other people can't do it.
How is this even a point of questioning?
no it's not a point of questioning it already happened and it is noted.
You ain't gonna care when others do wagonalysis, so it just looks like saying words
Shoot scum and all will be forgiven
I mean he has literally just said "Someone can do wagon analysis on a wagon". But why is my wagon better than anyone else's wagon? Its the same thing Shnichi said. Why does him claiming Vig make me scum?
Etc etc.
I'm baffled by the logic he is using. Lets do these things to DV because we can do "Insert Generic Reason Here".
i hate that his shot is so impersonal to him. "A vig shot" not "my shot"
And DV is right that vez isn't the type to do wagon analysis, so this seems a little like regurgitating Things Town Says
Its... a pretty scummy post
I mean at that point he's literally just said "We can do wagon analysis on the wagon
Just because I don't do wagon analysis doesn't mean other people can't do it.
How is this even a point of questioning?
no it's not a point of questioning it already happened and it is noted.
You ain't gonna care when others do wagonalysis, so it just looks like saying words
Shoot scum and all will be forgiven
I mean he has literally just said "Someone can do wagon analysis on a wagon". But why is my wagon better than anyone else's wagon? Its the same thing Shnichi said. Why does him claiming Vig make me scum?
Etc etc.
I'm baffled by the logic he is using. Lets do these things to DV because we can do "Insert Generic Reason Here".
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I'll need to think on this, but I guess Vez has become miss lynch bait in the last year somehow.
What do you mean by "become"? I've mislynched day 1 more times than I can count since I started playing this game.
And you don't see this as a problem?
Dear god man.
Why are you assuming your a mislynch when you havent even flipped? Also why are u so afraid of dieing to a vig shot or even a lynch if your town you would help eliminate the poe. Sure we would risk losing a good player if you're town, but in the end its not like the game ends with ur death or something along those loines.
The thing he's not doing, which would be the villagery thing to do when you're up for lynch D1 and the counterwagon that you've been trying to get lynched claims PR, is to re-evaluate reads / question assumptions / start pushing a "wagons are v/v, wolves are doing X" narrative that's based on a genuine re-assessment of the gamestate.
That sounds like something townnewcomb would do
Doesn't sound like DV of any alignment
Alright, tom, what alignment is DV when his reaction to his counterwagon claiming uncc'd PR is "my team thinks this is a wolf fakeclaiming, no, wait they don't anymore. Vote: nobody"?
This post doesn't even make any sense.
I'm rethinking things. Calm your jets.
All I see is pounce pounce pounce.
Wait a minute that's your case on me.
LOL.
Now it kinda does seem like ur just trying to discredit peoples post, since vezo is off the market who do u want to see lynched beside manasi i know u would rather her be shot.
I'm just ***** posting till mod kills, and waiting for Vezo to bullet point Newcomb's case. Because I legit only see that DV is aggressive with like a couple really minor meh points mixed in.
I would be down with seeing you lynched then because i am pretty sure the mod kill wont happen till the phase ends becaiuse a mod kill in the middle of the game as of right now would just disrupt the EOD which i would rather avoid.
Curious as to why Vezo who doesnt do VCA wants to analys a wagon.
@kanji WHy vote tom? Do u actually see him as scum or do u just want the game to be chaotic?
A wagon on someone with a lot of activity and good opinions offers better data points than a wagon on a lurker.
Also you're not pushing any other wagons. Your wagon is more valuable because it's the only one right now.
A lurker should never be lynched on day 1 anyways so thats pretty common sense, idk what you are trying to get at with this post. Also you said if DV gets lynched your fine with shooting an inactive which is the equivalent of lynching a lurker on day 1 so its actually quite contradictory.
A wagon on someone with a lot of activity and good opinions offers better data points than a wagon on a lurker.
Also you're not pushing any other wagons. Your wagon is more valuable because it's the only one right now.
A lurker should never be lynched on day 1 anyways so thats pretty common sense, idk what you are trying to get at with this post. Also you said if DV gets lynched your fine with shooting an inactive which is the equivalent of lynching a lurker on day 1 so its actually quite contradictory.
Lynching a lurker or vigging a lurker are two completely different things.
You can't solve lurkers because they don't post. Cantrip, nacho and beeboy are simply non-existant in this game. Vigging them removes them from the lynch pool which makes it harder for scum to mislynch.
A wagon on a lurker will give almost no information and rarely ends with a scum lurker lynch.
Idk. how to explain better. It's basic mafia theory.
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It's been a while since I've played on MTGS and looks like I haven't played with anyone in this game.
I'm on page 6 right now, I have some notes but I got bored so instead I'll probably just shoot from the hip until I'm in the thick of it.
As far as players I like /don't like (Based on the content to page 6).
I really don't trust anyone so far.
I absolutely can't stand shin's response to cantrips mass claim proposal: "Regardless of my alignment which i am town, i wont partcipate in any mass claims." Combine that with the massive quote walls, it just feels like someone is trying to hard to come across as town.
D_V seems like logical and aggressive town, except when he started talking about "every post is alignment telling". I don't believe that at all and this felt like he was trying to convince himself when he was trying to explain it, which reads kinda scummy.
Anak feels a bit off. I don't really have much to talk about cause it's more of a gut feeling.
I have no idea if Kanji is town or scum but the yolo dope swag persona is annoying.
I kinda liked Nacho and wasn't really sure why he was getting crap early. I know at one point he said something that made him sound serious about winning as town. He also voted shin which would have been my choice early, but then there were other parts where he seemed kind of disinterested or scattered with answering.
Tom seems kind of weird but I think he is having fun with a new play style.
Mostly everyone else I have no read on yet. I'll get there.
Anyways, I've requested replacement good luck guys.
I'm pretty sure the scum is in the lurkers. I'm not going to play a game where the rules were clearly written to remove lurker problems, and reward teams with slots like beeboys that have posted zero content getting a third bite at the apple.
Also I'm not lynching DV after this. I really don't see scum DV replacing out and I feel his frustration on lurkers getting a pass.
Mod : Can we vote on what happens with the non-existent slots?
I'm down for a modkill on both beeboy and nacho. I don't really feel like playing a game between me, tom and DV (who replaced out). Either modkill them now and give us a 24 hour extension or find a replacement in the next 24 hours and give us a week deadline extension. I don't really feel like playing when I could just not.
Like for ****'s sake. Nacho hasn't posted in a week and the beeboy slot hasn't posted since the game began. That's an insult to the game.
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Wagon analysis on ******* what?
Have you ever even done this in your entire mafia career?
What do you mean by "become"? I've mislynched day 1 more times than I can count since I started playing this game.
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And you don't see this as a problem?
Dear god man.
This post cannot be surmised by what you claim DV. There are multiple avenues of attack and you outright dismissed them and raged at newcomb.
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Well, I'm not lynching myself.
My job as town is to find and lynch scum. It's not my fault that 95% of people can't read my town game as town.
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I'm waiting for the modkills to give me info.
Right now Cantrip and Cantrip.
Manasi is the other one I'd like vigged.
Bullet point them for me.
Cause I ain't seeing *****.
Like, what do you expect him to do? "Gee golly, you got me, well played good sir."
He either has to just OMGUS me (already tried it, didn't work), try to handwave it away (in progress), or village read me and try to appeal to my reasonableness (I'm excited for this one!).
The thing he's not doing, which would be the villagery thing to do when you're up for lynch D1 and the counterwagon that you've been trying to get lynched claims PR, is to re-evaluate reads / question assumptions / start pushing a "wagons are v/v, wolves are doing X" narrative that's based on a genuine re-assessment of the gamestate.
Doesn't sound like DV of any alignment
Alright, tom, what alignment is DV when his reaction to his counterwagon claiming uncc'd PR is "my team thinks this is a wolf fakeclaiming, no, wait they don't anymore. Vote: nobody"?
@tom thoughts on this post?
This post doesn't even make any sense.
I'm rethinking things. Calm your jets.
All I see is pounce pounce pounce.
Wait a minute that's your case on me.
LOL.
Let's make it funnier
Vote: tomslover
And DV is right that vez isn't the type to do wagon analysis, so this seems a little like regurgitating Things Town Says
Its... a pretty scummy post
REEEEEEEEEE
I'm just ***** posting till mod kills, and waiting for Vezo to bullet point Newcomb's case. Because I legit only see that DV is aggressive with like a couple really minor meh points mixed in.
Just because I don't do wagon analysis doesn't mean other people can't do it.
How is this even a point of questioning?
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You ain't gonna care when others do wagonalysis, so it just looks like saying words
Shoot scum and all will be forgiven
I mean he has literally just said "Someone can do wagon analysis on a wagon". But why is my wagon better than anyone else's wagon? Its the same thing Shnichi said. Why does him claiming Vig make me scum?
Etc etc.
I'm baffled by the logic he is using. Lets do these things to DV because we can do "Insert Generic Reason Here".
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A wagon on someone with a lot of activity and good opinions offers better data points than a wagon on a lurker.
Also you're not pushing any other wagons. Your wagon is more valuable because it's the only one right now.
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Why shoot a lurker over someone u can accurately read?
Why shoot dv over anyone else for that matter?
Why are you assuming your a mislynch when you havent even flipped? Also why are u so afraid of dieing to a vig shot or even a lynch if your town you would help eliminate the poe. Sure we would risk losing a good player if you're town, but in the end its not like the game ends with ur death or something along those loines.
Now it kinda does seem like ur just trying to discredit peoples post, since vezo is off the market who do u want to see lynched beside manasi i know u would rather her be shot.
I would be down with seeing you lynched then because i am pretty sure the mod kill wont happen till the phase ends becaiuse a mod kill in the middle of the game as of right now would just disrupt the EOD which i would rather avoid.
Curious as to why Vezo who doesnt do VCA wants to analys a wagon.
@kanji WHy vote tom? Do u actually see him as scum or do u just want the game to be chaotic?
A lurker should never be lynched on day 1 anyways so thats pretty common sense, idk what you are trying to get at with this post. Also you said if DV gets lynched your fine with shooting an inactive which is the equivalent of lynching a lurker on day 1 so its actually quite contradictory.
Lynching a lurker or vigging a lurker are two completely different things.
You can't solve lurkers because they don't post. Cantrip, nacho and beeboy are simply non-existant in this game. Vigging them removes them from the lynch pool which makes it harder for scum to mislynch.
A wagon on a lurker will give almost no information and rarely ends with a scum lurker lynch.
Idk. how to explain better. It's basic mafia theory.
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Nachomamma8, after discussing it with the other mods, will not be force replaced at this point, for the health of the game.
beeboy's post is being considered a prod dodge, and the search for a replacement is ongoing.
At this point, no extensions are in order.
Votecount #8:
D_V - 4 (Newcomb, Manasi, vezokpiraka, randwolfsubout)
tomsloger - 1 (Kanji)
vezokpiraka - 1 (Anaklusmos)
Not Voting - 6 (7hawk77, Nachomamma8, beeboy, Shinichi, tomsloger, D_V)
With 12 players, it's 7 to lynch! Deadline is tomorrow, August 1, 2018 at 11:59PM EST.
Any inactives lose their vote and the lynch threshold lowers with it
Probably too late for that but I should add it to my games
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I'm on page 6 right now, I have some notes but I got bored so instead I'll probably just shoot from the hip until I'm in the thick of it.
As far as players I like /don't like (Based on the content to page 6).
I really don't trust anyone so far.
I absolutely can't stand shin's response to cantrips mass claim proposal: "Regardless of my alignment which i am town, i wont partcipate in any mass claims." Combine that with the massive quote walls, it just feels like someone is trying to hard to come across as town.
D_V seems like logical and aggressive town, except when he started talking about "every post is alignment telling". I don't believe that at all and this felt like he was trying to convince himself when he was trying to explain it, which reads kinda scummy.
Anak feels a bit off. I don't really have much to talk about cause it's more of a gut feeling.
I have no idea if Kanji is town or scum but the yolo dope swag persona is annoying.
I kinda liked Nacho and wasn't really sure why he was getting crap early. I know at one point he said something that made him sound serious about winning as town. He also voted shin which would have been my choice early, but then there were other parts where he seemed kind of disinterested or scattered with answering.
Tom seems kind of weird but I think he is having fun with a new play style.
Mostly everyone else I have no read on yet. I'll get there.
Anyways, back to catching up.
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I'm pretty sure the scum is in the lurkers. I'm not going to play a game where the rules were clearly written to remove lurker problems, and reward teams with slots like beeboys that have posted zero content getting a third bite at the apple.
Plus nachomamma should be replaced period.
vote: DV
Vote DV
There someone hammer, I'm going to flip vanilla town.
Since my team found a replacement GL to them, but I'm pretty sure you guys will lynch this slot either way. Its Town BTW
You guys can unvote now
@Newcomb manasi vezokpiraka randwoldsubout tell me why you're not scum
Vote 7hawk77 bye
Also I'm not lynching DV after this. I really don't see scum DV replacing out and I feel his frustration on lurkers getting a pass.
Mod : Can we vote on what happens with the non-existent slots?
I'm down for a modkill on both beeboy and nacho. I don't really feel like playing a game between me, tom and DV (who replaced out). Either modkill them now and give us a 24 hour extension or find a replacement in the next 24 hours and give us a week deadline extension. I don't really feel like playing when I could just not.
Like for ****'s sake. Nacho hasn't posted in a week and the beeboy slot hasn't posted since the game began. That's an insult to the game.
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