so let me get this straight, u think that their big fight was scum carnival, or w/e the hell you guys call that? and Scum knows, just saying
sigh...
How long have you played mafia? I’ve played long enough that I’m not willing to rule it out. I’ve seen scum throw down, get cleared, and win. That being said I don’t think they are on the same team, I think dv is neutral but I classify neutral as scum. I will say that if we lynch dv first and he flips mafia, it will make me rethink vaimes as scum quite a bit.
Why the sigh? Because I don’t see the game state the same as you? I mean, I’m sorry? Try to be open to reading other thought processes. Maybe it’ll help, maybe it won’t.
Also, please do tell me what the scum know.
But you aren't ruling out or considering it an option. Even on your list, you have them both in a scum lean territory.
@LW:
but he is still a scum lean, and how anyone can think hes town is ******* baffling... Ill remember this post if either you or kpaca flips scum
Kpaca, not seen as town by really anyone apart from maybe a couple of weirdo reads. Comes into the thread after his vacation, and goes after Vaimes and DV, two of the towniest read players. I am not saying Kpaca can't be wolf, but one of the big issue I have/had with tubba, and I assume others felt the same were his reads were pretty wack. I am not saying wolf kpaca wouldn't do that, but I don't think drawing that much negative attention to himself is a smart wolf play. Vaimes/DV are pretty strong town, but I don't think wolfKpaca makes that as a read. I think what most of the concesus reads typically mean is either the wolves are exactly the people with non consensus reads, or there is one deep wolf in the town core. I wouldn't look at the latter option unless we are really in trouble, and wolf nks usually helpt to sort that out.
so let me get this straight, u think that their big fight was scum carnival, or w/e the hell you guys call that? and Scum knows, just saying
sigh...
How long have you played mafia? I’ve played long enough that I’m not willing to rule it out. I’ve seen scum throw down, get cleared, and win. That being said I don’t think they are on the same team, I think dv is neutral but I classify neutral as scum. I will say that if we lynch dv first and he flips mafia, it will make me rethink vaimes as scum quite a bit.
Why the sigh? Because I don’t see the game state the same as you? I mean, I’m sorry? Try to be open to reading other thought processes. Maybe it’ll help, maybe it won’t.
Also, please do tell me what the scum know.
But you aren't ruling out or considering it an option. Even on your list, you have them both in a scum lean territory.
@LW:
but he is still a scum lean, and how anyone can think hes town is ******* baffling... Ill remember this post if either you or kpaca flips scum
Kpaca, not seen as town by really anyone apart from maybe a couple of weirdo reads. Comes into the thread after his vacation, and goes after Vaimes and DV, two of the towniest read players. I am not saying Kpaca can't be wolf, but one of the big issue I have/had with tubba, and I assume others felt the same were his reads were pretty wack. I am not saying wolf kpaca wouldn't do that, but I don't think drawing that much negative attention to himself is a smart wolf play. Vaimes/DV are pretty strong town, but I don't think wolfKpaca makes that as a read. I think what most of the concesus reads typically mean is either the wolves are exactly the people with non consensus reads, or there is one deep wolf in the town core. I wouldn't look at the latter option unless we are really in trouble, and wolf nks usually helpt to sort that out.
Yeahhhh...I rode that exact logic to a perfect wolf victory in token mafia just a couple weeks ago...
so let me get this straight, u think that their big fight was scum carnival, or w/e the hell you guys call that? and Scum knows, just saying
sigh...
How long have you played mafia? I’ve played long enough that I’m not willing to rule it out. I’ve seen scum throw down, get cleared, and win. That being said I don’t think they are on the same team, I think dv is neutral but I classify neutral as scum. I will say that if we lynch dv first and he flips mafia, it will make me rethink vaimes as scum quite a bit.
Why the sigh? Because I don’t see the game state the same as you? I mean, I’m sorry? Try to be open to reading other thought processes. Maybe it’ll help, maybe it won’t.
Also, please do tell me what the scum know.
But you aren't ruling out or considering it an option. Even on your list, you have them both in a scum lean territory.
@LW:
but he is still a scum lean, and how anyone can think hes town is ******* baffling... Ill remember this post if either you or kpaca flips scum
Kpaca, not seen as town by really anyone apart from maybe a couple of weirdo reads. Comes into the thread after his vacation, and goes after Vaimes and DV, two of the towniest read players. I am not saying Kpaca can't be wolf, but one of the big issue I have/had with tubba, and I assume others felt the same were his reads were pretty wack. I am not saying wolf kpaca wouldn't do that, but I don't think drawing that much negative attention to himself is a smart wolf play. Vaimes/DV are pretty strong town, but I don't think wolfKpaca makes that as a read. I think what most of the concesus reads typically mean is either the wolves are exactly the people with non consensus reads, or there is one deep wolf in the town core. I wouldn't look at the latter option unless we are really in trouble, and wolf nks usually helpt to sort that out.
Yeahhhh...I rode that exact logic to a perfect wolf victory in token mafia just a couple weeks ago...
so let me get this straight, u think that their big fight was scum carnival, or w/e the hell you guys call that? and Scum knows, just saying
sigh...
How long have you played mafia? I’ve played long enough that I’m not willing to rule it out. I’ve seen scum throw down, get cleared, and win. That being said I don’t think they are on the same team, I think dv is neutral but I classify neutral as scum. I will say that if we lynch dv first and he flips mafia, it will make me rethink vaimes as scum quite a bit.
Why the sigh? Because I don’t see the game state the same as you? I mean, I’m sorry? Try to be open to reading other thought processes. Maybe it’ll help, maybe it won’t.
Also, please do tell me what the scum know.
But you aren't ruling out or considering it an option. Even on your list, you have them both in a scum lean territory.
@LW:
but he is still a scum lean, and how anyone can think hes town is ******* baffling... Ill remember this post if either you or kpaca flips scum
Kpaca, not seen as town by really anyone apart from maybe a couple of weirdo reads. Comes into the thread after his vacation, and goes after Vaimes and DV, two of the towniest read players. I am not saying Kpaca can't be wolf, but one of the big issue I have/had with tubba, and I assume others felt the same were his reads were pretty wack. I am not saying wolf kpaca wouldn't do that, but I don't think drawing that much negative attention to himself is a smart wolf play. Vaimes/DV are pretty strong town, but I don't think wolfKpaca makes that as a read. I think what most of the concesus reads typically mean is either the wolves are exactly the people with non consensus reads, or there is one deep wolf in the town core. I wouldn't look at the latter option unless we are really in trouble, and wolf nks usually helpt to sort that out.
Yeahhhh...I rode that exact logic to a perfect wolf victory in token mafia just a couple weeks ago...
You rode a mod **** up to victory. Ironically, all the players from the game appear to be here, and from what I see, your reads weren't too crazy.
Also, I don't know how you get off saying I am pocketing DV. If anything, DV is pocketing me.
ohreally?
He pocketed you by you posting a thorough agreement with him and him townreading you for it?
We have similar reads, but as far as I was aware of until recently, he was slight wolf reading me, but wasn't super comfortable. Honestly, I was surprised I wasn't his 4th slot after I made my point about who to lynch.
I don’t think anyone is accusing you of advocating no lynch.
why do you choose to say, "anyone", when it should be clear im refering to Osie, and he came to the conclusion that creating multiple trains leads to a no lynch, which I interpret as, "Wisp is ok with a no lynch."
I'm saying that you're pushing for a situation that makes a no lynch much easier, which makes me wonder if your motives are actually pure.
The mod **** confirmed a town slot and did nothing for the scum. I don't think you read the game closely gj.
I didn't really. But I noticed that the game was between him and tom, the mod made an announcement, and kami was all of a sudden the person people were wolf reading. But fair enough.
so let me get this straight, u think that their big fight was scum carnival, or w/e the hell you guys call that? and Scum knows, just saying
sigh...
How long have you played mafia? I’ve played long enough that I’m not willing to rule it out. I’ve seen scum throw down, get cleared, and win. That being said I don’t think they are on the same team, I think dv is neutral but I classify neutral as scum. I will say that if we lynch dv first and he flips mafia, it will make me rethink vaimes as scum quite a bit.
Why the sigh? Because I don’t see the game state the same as you? I mean, I’m sorry? Try to be open to reading other thought processes. Maybe it’ll help, maybe it won’t.
Also, please do tell me what the scum know.
But you aren't ruling out or considering it an option. Even on your list, you have them both in a scum lean territory.
@LW:
but he is still a scum lean, and how anyone can think hes town is ******* baffling... Ill remember this post if either you or kpaca flips scum
Kpaca, not seen as town by really anyone apart from maybe a couple of weirdo reads. Comes into the thread after his vacation, and goes after Vaimes and DV, two of the towniest read players. I am not saying Kpaca can't be wolf, but one of the big issue I have/had with tubba, and I assume others felt the same were his reads were pretty wack. I am not saying wolf kpaca wouldn't do that, but I don't think drawing that much negative attention to himself is a smart wolf play. Vaimes/DV are pretty strong town, but I don't think wolfKpaca makes that as a read. I think what most of the concesus reads typically mean is either the wolves are exactly the people with non consensus reads, or there is one deep wolf in the town core. I wouldn't look at the latter option unless we are really in trouble, and wolf nks usually helpt to sort that out.
Yeahhhh...I rode that exact logic to a perfect wolf victory in token mafia just a couple weeks ago...
You rode a mod **** up to victory. Ironically, all the players from the game appear to be here, and from what I see, your reads weren't too crazy.
We have similar reads, but as far as I was aware of until recently, he was slight wolf reading me, but wasn't super comfortable. Honestly, I was surprised I wasn't his 4th slot after I made my point about who to lynch.
*shrugs* Vote TheRealStinkyJoe
soooooo, you just want someone to die so they die?
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@Fuwa I'm not sure you are scum but you are ny strongest scum read by a significant amount. It's based largely on your reads of Vaimes and myself feeling fake.
@Terry Welcome to the mess! As others have said there isn't much to give you an anchor to. Nothing mechanical has happened, and there isn't a ton of consensus on wagons yet. DV did a big post breaking down the consensus read wall which while impressive I'm not sure how to use it to take actionable information from.
There haven't been any real wagons or anything so when you ask for a recap at this stage it's just going to be people highlighting moments of towniness or scumminess they thought shown through.
Ok, I'll just have to solve the game myself then.
Yeah, that.
Pretty much DV, Vaimes, Rodemy, and myself are all town. Fuwa is probably scum, Last is flailing to the point that he could be scum, and Tom+you+some others are questionable.
We have similar reads, but as far as I was aware of until recently, he was slight wolf reading me, but wasn't super comfortable. Honestly, I was surprised I wasn't his 4th slot after I made my point about who to lynch.
*shrugs* Vote TheRealStinkyJoe
soooooo, you just want someone to die so they die?
And you had the audacity to say DV didn't read the thread...
And you had the audacity to say DV didn't read the thread...
um, what?
Going to run the baseball camp now, but read my posts. Still think tubbas slot is the wolfiest one in the game, he replaced out after he was being pressured and then snapped at someone. RSJ hasn't done anything to change that. As of right now, I still think he is the clearest path to a wolf.
And you had the audacity to say DV didn't read the thread...
um, what?
Going to run the baseball camp now, but read my posts. Still think tubbas slot is the wolfiest one in the game, he replaced out after he was being pressured and then snapped at someone. RSJ hasn't done anything to change that. As of right now, I still think he is the clearest path to a wolf.
thats so anglely tho... I want terry to post more, and until then I wont punish him for something his previous slot holder did, expecially since its not even a mechanical scum read, like "replacing under pressure", and equated that with a scum read, is so yuck...
And you had the audacity to say DV didn't read the thread...
um, what?
Going to run the baseball camp now, but read my posts. Still think tubbas slot is the wolfiest one in the game, he replaced out after he was being pressured and then snapped at someone. RSJ hasn't done anything to change that. As of right now, I still think he is the clearest path to a wolf.
thats so anglely tho... I want terry to post more, and until then I wont punish him for something his previous slot holder did, expecially since its not even a mechanical scum read, like "replacing under pressure", and equated that with a scum read, is so yuck...
How is it angly? I am not giving the slot a free pass. Do you think tubby was super wolfy before he replaced out? Am I supposed to just pretend tubba didn't exist and that slot started when TRSJ took over?
I also don't think Kpaca is a wolf, and that would be viviedly clear?
Rodemy is still seriously lack luster, are you gunna pressure him more tho? are just vote and do nothing?
I am voting him. How much could I actually pressure him short of having a vig shot and shooting him? He isn't going to be back until tonight, if I could think of anything else on the spot to ask him, I would. I voted him because he is clearly ridiculously bored, but he would have noticed that Kpaca, a super lurker before he got back from vacation was posting more, and he didn't at least have a preliminary leaning? That strikes me as super wolfy for not being invested enough to watch the thread.
You also seem really shady here. Your points don't make sense. I am arguing with kpaca, but my tone is clearly implying I am town reading him. I challenged Rodemy to get him into the game (because it's 4th of July, and I don't expect to be the only one being slanky), I don't like his response and vote him, and you think I am just going to vote him and do nothing?
MAybe the town core is 100%, and the wolves are just all slanking/don't care about the game.
I think what most of the concesus reads typically mean is either the wolves are exactly the people with non consensus reads, or there is one deep wolf in the town core.
I think what most of the concesus reads typically mean is either the wolves are exactly the people with non consensus reads, or there is one deep wolf in the town core.
Please go into more detail here.
Why is there not more resistance to the relatively universal town reads, apart form Kpaca? I would expect there is either a deep wolf in the pile, or all the wolves are in the slankers. This isn't that great of theory for day 1, but something to keep in mind. I guess what I am saying is I am surprised there isn't more fight on the town core
thats so anglely tho... I want terry to post more, and until then I wont punish him for something his previous slot holder did, expecially since its not even a mechanical scum read, like "replacing under pressure", and equated that with a scum read, is so yuck...
this is exactly my thinking.
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And you had the audacity to say DV didn't read the thread...
um, what?
Going to run the baseball camp now, but read my posts. Still think tubbas slot is the wolfiest one in the game, he replaced out after he was being pressured and then snapped at someone. RSJ hasn't done anything to change that. As of right now, I still think he is the clearest path to a wolf.
thats so anglely tho... I want terry to post more, and until then I wont punish him for something his previous slot holder did, expecially since its not even a mechanical scum read, like "replacing under pressure", and equated that with a scum read, is so yuck...
He didn't replace because he was pressured. He replaced while being pressured. The trigger was something something between him and DV, but my point is that you are suddenly treating the tubba spot as though he is untouchable just because he replaced out.
As far as tone goes:
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Kpaca, not seen as town by really anyone apart from maybe a couple of weirdo reads. Comes into the thread after his vacation, and goes after Vaimes and DV, two of the towniest read players. I am not saying Kpaca can't be wolf, but one of the big issue I have/had with tubba, and I assume others felt the same were his reads were pretty wack. I am not saying wolf kpaca wouldn't do that, but I don't think drawing that much negative attention to himself is a smart wolf play. Vaimes/DV are pretty strong town, but I don't think wolfKpaca makes that as a read. I think what most of the concesus reads typically mean is either the wolves are exactly the people with non consensus reads, or there is one deep wolf in the town core. I wouldn't look at the latter option unless we are really in trouble, and wolf nks usually helpt to sort that out.
Please tell me how my tone was confusing about how I view kpaca.
Would love to hear why. I found his last few posts to be relatively meh, and not on topic, even ignoring the back and forth we had. In fact, probably the towniest thing he has had in the last several pages.
If there is a wolf in that town core I stated above, then it would be DV who is scum with you
And the only universal town reads should be Osie, DV, and Vaimes... So idk what ur talking about @GJ
lol as if.
ohh should I add u there?
ohh wait, I forgot ur scum reading DV/vaimes
Explain how I am not reading the game now please. I might have to reread, because you have kept this consistant scum read of me, but when osierb backed off, all of a sudden you started liking my posts "still scum leaning", and then all of a sudden, kpaca/tom jump on, and now you are back on the GJ train.
Tom, you also still didn't explain where the **** your logic for voting me came from.
But you aren't ruling out or considering it an option. Even on your list, you have them both in a scum lean territory.
@LW:
Kpaca, not seen as town by really anyone apart from maybe a couple of weirdo reads. Comes into the thread after his vacation, and goes after Vaimes and DV, two of the towniest read players. I am not saying Kpaca can't be wolf, but one of the big issue I have/had with tubba, and I assume others felt the same were his reads were pretty wack. I am not saying wolf kpaca wouldn't do that, but I don't think drawing that much negative attention to himself is a smart wolf play. Vaimes/DV are pretty strong town, but I don't think wolfKpaca makes that as a read. I think what most of the concesus reads typically mean is either the wolves are exactly the people with non consensus reads, or there is one deep wolf in the town core. I wouldn't look at the latter option unless we are really in trouble, and wolf nks usually helpt to sort that out.
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Yeahhhh...I rode that exact logic to a perfect wolf victory in token mafia just a couple weeks ago...
You rode a mod **** up to victory. Ironically, all the players from the game appear to be here, and from what I see, your reads weren't too crazy.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
My how I have grown.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
We have similar reads, but as far as I was aware of until recently, he was slight wolf reading me, but wasn't super comfortable. Honestly, I was surprised I wasn't his 4th slot after I made my point about who to lynch.
*shrugs* Vote TheRealStinkyJoe
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I'm saying that you're pushing for a situation that makes a no lynch much easier, which makes me wonder if your motives are actually pure.
Nah, the mod mistake if anything made him less likely to win.
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I didn't really. But I noticed that the game was between him and tom, the mod made an announcement, and kami was all of a sudden the person people were wolf reading. But fair enough.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
What do you think of kpaca?
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How coodo you feel about kpaca?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
How do*. Stupid phone
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Have my role pm
Have 1300 posts to read
See:
And you had the audacity to say DV didn't read the thread...
The GJ way path to no lynching:
By people, he means Kpaca.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Vote Rodemy
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Going to run the baseball camp now, but read my posts. Still think tubbas slot is the wolfiest one in the game, he replaced out after he was being pressured and then snapped at someone. RSJ hasn't done anything to change that. As of right now, I still think he is the clearest path to a wolf.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
and Kpaca has been a lot better as of recent...
Rodemy is still seriously lack luster, are you gunna pressure him more tho? are just vote and do nothing?
Grape
are you gunna respond to Wuffle's wall about you?
How is it angly? I am not giving the slot a free pass. Do you think tubby was super wolfy before he replaced out? Am I supposed to just pretend tubba didn't exist and that slot started when TRSJ took over?
I also don't think Kpaca is a wolf, and that would be viviedly clear?
I am voting him. How much could I actually pressure him short of having a vig shot and shooting him? He isn't going to be back until tonight, if I could think of anything else on the spot to ask him, I would. I voted him because he is clearly ridiculously bored, but he would have noticed that Kpaca, a super lurker before he got back from vacation was posting more, and he didn't at least have a preliminary leaning? That strikes me as super wolfy for not being invested enough to watch the thread.
You also seem really shady here. Your points don't make sense. I am arguing with kpaca, but my tone is clearly implying I am town reading him. I challenged Rodemy to get him into the game (because it's 4th of July, and I don't expect to be the only one being slanky), I don't like his response and vote him, and you think I am just going to vote him and do nothing?
MAybe the town core is 100%, and the wolves are just all slanking/don't care about the game.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Why is there not more resistance to the relatively universal town reads, apart form Kpaca? I would expect there is either a deep wolf in the pile, or all the wolves are in the slankers. This isn't that great of theory for day 1, but something to keep in mind. I guess what I am saying is I am surprised there isn't more fight on the town core
The GJ way path to no lynching:
And u clearly aren't reading the game either
And u call paca a lurker which I guess doesn't necessarily mean scum, and u town read him?
unvote: vote gentleman Johnny
He didn't replace because he was pressured. He replaced while being pressured. The trigger was something something between him and DV, but my point is that you are suddenly treating the tubba spot as though he is untouchable just because he replaced out.
As far as tone goes:
Please tell me how my tone was confusing about how I view kpaca.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I would. Maybe slanking with cover if you really want to get into semantics.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Would love to hear why. I found his last few posts to be relatively meh, and not on topic, even ignoring the back and forth we had. In fact, probably the towniest thing he has had in the last several pages.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Explain how I am not reading the game now please. I might have to reread, because you have kept this consistant scum read of me, but when osierb backed off, all of a sudden you started liking my posts "still scum leaning", and then all of a sudden, kpaca/tom jump on, and now you are back on the GJ train.
Tom, you also still didn't explain where the **** your logic for voting me came from.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
All I can really say about the last several pages is I think kpaca is town and LW makes my head hurt.
vote: GJ
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And I can't read tone it sarcasm or much of anything lol
And it doesn't really matter why Tubba left, if u use that in ur arguement, ur point becomes moot