Sucks being so confident, and pushing two mis lunches... And is it weird to say that I'm kinda happy that Terry and Osie are dead? Like ya sucks that they were PRs... But god I was having such doubts about their alignments...
Sucks being so confident, and pushing two mis lunches... And is it weird to say that I'm kinda happy that Terry and Osie are dead? Like ya sucks that they were PRs... But god I was having such doubts about their alignments...
Osierb was clearly town, and one of the few people actually stepping up to lead him.
Terry was self resolving. No amount of WIFOM keeps wolves from dealing with him.
The face is for tom ending yesterday saying he was going into me, Kami pretty much calling me a wolf for no reason, and then tom ends up on him. Doesn't make sense, but nothing tom has done this game actually makes sense.
Man, it felt so good to forget about this game so thoroughly. And then all the trueclaiming PRs died.
@KK: my LW read is that I haven't read his last 200 posts because in my experience, mafia don't like to blow up the thread like he does. So I tuned him out after I slotted him as town.
Not looking forward to combing through 10-page ISOs, so I'm gonna put this game off until tomorrow.
Mafia redirected kpaca (who softclaimed an investigative ability) onto the town Doctor?
how does it not make sense? They know vezok is actually a tracker, so it’s unlikely I’m an alignment cop. So assuming I’m a guy who gets tertiary information it actually makes sense to redirect me to someone who I dont get any new info from if I’m a tracker/watcher/whatever they think I am. It’s axrially the right play when I think about it.
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I don't know if I follow the logic behind that, because if so, it's a stupidly lucky chain of events. I don't think the mafia imagined they'd snatch two PRs for the price of one. I thought we'd at least get confirmation of a roleblocker at least (even if it is a gimme scum role).
But that's something that should work itself out sooner rather than later.
I agree with Rod that Wuffles is probably scum.
Fuwa is definitely scum for the way her wagon collapsed multiple times and shifted onto confirmed villagers.
The face is for tom ending yesterday saying he was going into me, Kami pretty much calling me a wolf for no reason, and then tom ends up on him. Doesn't make sense, but nothing tom has done this game actually makes sense.
In fact, Vote Tomsloger
bro I thought you were vezoks buddy.
Mistakes were made.
Kami has been my top scum for a solid month though.
Needs to be a wagon today, and hopefully eat rope>flip scum
The fact that LW (or anyone, really) doubted osie's alignment at all is ???. I could understand thinking he's neutral, but groupscum?
Night phase is literally the mafia's phase. Its purpose is for them to act and eliminate a villager. They aren't ever going to have a role that skips Night.
The fact that LW (or anyone, really) doubted osie's alignment at all is ???. I could understand thinking he's neutral, but groupscum?
Night phase is literally the mafia's phase. Its purpose is for them to act and eliminate a villager. They aren't ever going to have a role that skips Night.
i mean, they didn't here but
Could see it along with, like, a daytime role or two and a slightly overpowered town
I don't know if I follow the logic behind that, because if so, it's a stupidly lucky chain of events. I don't think the mafia imagined they'd snatch two PRs for the price of one. I thought we'd at least get confirmation of a roleblocker at least (even if it is a gimme scum role).
But that's something that should work itself out sooner rather than later.
I agree with Rod that Wuffles is probably scum.
Fuwa is definitely scum for the way her wagon collapsed multiple times and shifted onto confirmed villagers.
yeah I don’t know if I’d expect you to follow that logic as scum tbh either.
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The fact that LW (or anyone, really) doubted osie's alignment at all is ???. I could understand thinking he's neutral, but groupscum?
Night phase is literally the mafia's phase. Its purpose is for them to act and eliminate a villager. They aren't ever going to have a role that skips Night.
so all of a sudden you’re an expert on how the game of mafia works?
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Also what the heck does “the fact that lw doubted osies alignment is ???” even mean? Like are you asking us to come up with an opinion on a fake scum tell you are trying to invent so you can barn us after we do?
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Also what the heck does “the fact that lw doubted osies alignment is ???” even mean? Like are you asking us to come up with an opinion on a fake scum tell you are trying to invent so you can barn us after we do?
I am not asking people to invent a "fake scumtell" to barn; I have no idea what LW could have been thinking to lead him to doubt osie's alignment when he claimed Night skipper + IC. The first part is already super -EV scum, the second part isn't something townread scum is ever going to claim on Day 1.5 because it completely destroys their ability to endgame. It's not being a mafia expert, it's basic common sense.
I am not asking people to invent a "fake scumtell" to barn; I have no idea what LW could have been thinking to lead him to doubt osie's alignment when he claimed Night skipper + IC. The first part is already super -EV scum, the second part isn't something townread scum is ever going to claim on Day 1.5 because it completely destroys their ability to endgame. It's not being a mafia expert, it's basic common sense.
this sounds like mod gaming. Not that I have any room to judge rn.
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@Vaimes Please tell me you have something better to do than hunt a reforming lurker-in-progress. Like...seriously. Look at that horrible logic from Rodemy. And how he's been egging people toward me since day 1 with little to no explanation. Has anyone else played with this dude like does he do this as town?
@Vaimes Please tell me you have something better to do than hunt a reforming lurker-in-progress. Like...seriously. Look at that horrible logic from Rodemy. And how he's been egging people toward me since day 1 with little to no explanation. Has anyone else played with this dude like does he do this as town?
he once scumread me for being townier in our neighbor chat than I was in thread
@Vaimes Please tell me you have something better to do than hunt a reforming lurker-in-progress. Like...seriously. Look at that horrible logic from Rodemy. And how he's been egging people toward me since day 1 with little to no explanation. Has anyone else played with this dude like does he do this as town?
I mean, I plan on lynching her come deadline. Do you think she's town?
I can hunt other people in the meantime; Day just started.
Yep all 4 mafia, are on Vezok, and I'm buddies with kami... It's such a good thing I still think you are town because of your slots previous holder...
Cool your jets, the orange was just me marking who was on both EOD wagons, not who I thought was scum. I still don't believe Kami is scum. And your positioning on both wagons (especially in light of where Fuwa's votes are) looks suspicious if considering basic wagon dynamics (scum don't vote directly after one another, most often middle of the pack etc.) It's not a solid tell since it's a known factor and scum do try to work around it but it's a starting point. I'm also looking at where Grape is on both EOD's, dead centre day 1 on Anak and first vote on Fuwa day 2. Not a bad place for scum to be when bussing...
Updated with new kpaca info, marked myself green since I know I'm town but until I flip or possibly get copped it's not confirmed. Interesting to look at the Vez wagon from Day 1 with kpaca now a (most likely) confirmed town, Rodemy and Vaimes are the only two (or three for everyone who isn't me) who are unknowns and were also on the Day 2 Vez lynch. Not sure what that means yet though.
@Vaimes Please tell me you have something better to do than hunt a reforming lurker-in-progress. Like...seriously. Look at that horrible logic from Rodemy. And how he's been egging people toward me since day 1 with little to no explanation. Has anyone else played with this dude like does he do this as town?
he once scumread me for being townier in our neighbor chat than I was in thread
Hahahaha. Yeah i remember that. oh silly rodemy.
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Would definitely rather lynch Kami and think he's more likely scum, but Fuwa would be a pretty useful flip to know.
I'm extremely meh on her but, like, so much wagon info
Wish kpacas shot had gone through
Still haven't reread though. This festival is over on Sunday then I get free time
Hm. After looking at responses and prior interaction, new tinfoil theory: vaimes+rodemy as scum. It's diametrically opposed to my scum!dota read, and basically means Rodemy glommed onto my hard read earlier. Not all that risky either, since I was tanking the aggro for that read from the rest of the thread.
I think at this point in the game, scum don't tend to push buddies. So I don't see dota+Fuwa or vaimes+fuwa. So in this theory, fuwa is town.
honestly with the way the Day 2 EoD VC looks like, kami and vaimes cant be both town
I got 3 yellows on Fuwa, which kinda makes me not want to vote there?
Still think theres scum in grape/wuffles, but not both
GJ is still a ??? for me
Kami
your theory was bad anyways, I am never mafia... or sk, or any evil, like seriously...
Fuwa is probably town, but her votes are *****, and shes not doing much of anything...
honestly its really hard to move people out from vote analysis alone...
the scum team is def in those 6 yellows, because I cant see Tom being scum, or Dota (because I still think DV was town), and Rodemy, well I have a good feeling about him, and its telling me hes town hunting with poor reasons...
If I had never played with Fuwa before, I'd probably be ok with this lynch, but thats not the case here, I tunneled on her for almost the same reasons during senki mafia on my home site, and I was wrong there, and I am hoping that I am right here...
now that we pretty much confirmed there isnt a SK, we still can afford some mislynches, hoping tho that Fuwa can give us a better reason to not vote her today tho...
02h30 in the morning and I should be sleeping instead of playing Mafia. Will post theory about eod wagons later, for now:
Vote: Fuwa
I take it the coin came up heads for me today? Or had kpaca not said anything so you aren't ready top wolf read me?
I would suggest looking at people not onvezok or anak day 1. Probably at least two wolves there.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
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The GJ way path to no lynching:
Osierb was clearly town, and one of the few people actually stepping up to lead him.
Terry was self resolving. No amount of WIFOM keeps wolves from dealing with him.
The face is for tom ending yesterday saying he was going into me, Kami pretty much calling me a wolf for no reason, and then tom ends up on him. Doesn't make sense, but nothing tom has done this game actually makes sense.
In fact, Vote Tomsloger
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I’m a joat. Used my vig shot last night targeting fuwa. Got flavor saying I was being mind controlled and that I had killed rsjt instead.
Trying to piece myself back together rn. Kinda at a loss after all those flips. Need to reanalyze.
...why did you think having what I assume is a single shot of investigative made you doubt vezok's claim?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
@KK: my LW read is that I haven't read his last 200 posts because in my experience, mafia don't like to blow up the thread like he does. So I tuned him out after I slotted him as town.
Not looking forward to combing through 10-page ISOs, so I'm gonna put this game off until tomorrow.
Vote Fuwa
That is absolutely happening. No more diversions.
Mafia redirected kpaca (who softclaimed an investigative ability) onto the town Doctor?
Jack of all trades.
Not just a vig shot mate.
Being redirected off of you doesn’t make me rank you town any higher.
That being said, I do plan on starting a reread of wuffles. Might be something to dig up there.
What are your other abilities?
At least the one that made you think vezok was lying
But that's something that should work itself out sooner rather than later.
I agree with Rod that Wuffles is probably scum.
Fuwa is definitely scum for the way her wagon collapsed multiple times and shifted onto confirmed villagers.
Mistakes were made.
Kami has been my top scum for a solid month though.
Needs to be a wagon today, and hopefully eat rope>flip scum
Night phase is literally the mafia's phase. Its purpose is for them to act and eliminate a villager. They aren't ever going to have a role that skips Night.
Could see it along with, like, a daytime role or two and a slightly overpowered town
Would prefer not to reveal any more info as to what trades I am jack of.
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Think there's a chance DoTA is also scum, but I dunno if the slot works as buddies with Fuwa. Will look into.
Hey, like, explain that thing i asked about dude man.
I am not asking people to invent a "fake scumtell" to barn; I have no idea what LW could have been thinking to lead him to doubt osie's alignment when he claimed Night skipper + IC. The first part is already super -EV scum, the second part isn't something townread scum is ever going to claim on Day 1.5 because it completely destroys their ability to endgame. It's not being a mafia expert, it's basic common sense.
This post is suuuuuuuper opportunistic, holy *****. And it isn't even a convincing post.
Ok.
for now
I can hunt other people in the meantime; Day just started.
Can we kill wuffles now?
Hahahaha. Yeah i remember that. oh silly rodemy.
Fuwa - 4 (Manasi, DoTArchon, Vaimes, kpaca)
Wuffles_II - 1 (Rodemy)
Lastwhisper - 1 (KamikazeArchon)
KamikazeArchon - 1 (tomsloger)
tomsloger - 1 (Gentleman Johnny)
Not Voting - 4 (Grapefruit21, Wuffles_II, Fuwa, Lastwhisper)
(With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch)
Day 3 ends on August 9th at 2000 Mountain time.
@everyone not named vaimes: why? Why do you keep giving this person a pass as “obviously townie”. How long can they get a pass on the DV interactions?
I'm extremely meh on her but, like, so much wagon info
Wish kpacas shot had gone through
Still haven't reread though. This festival is over on Sunday then I get free time
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Hm. After looking at responses and prior interaction, new tinfoil theory: vaimes+rodemy as scum. It's diametrically opposed to my scum!dota read, and basically means Rodemy glommed onto my hard read earlier. Not all that risky either, since I was tanking the aggro for that read from the rest of the thread.
I think at this point in the game, scum don't tend to push buddies. So I don't see dota+Fuwa or vaimes+fuwa. So in this theory, fuwa is town.
vezokpiraka - 8 (Rodemy, tomsloger, Fuwa, kpaca, Lastwhisper, KamikazeArchon, Vaimes, osieorb18)
Fuwa - 4 (Grapefruit21, DoTArchon, Manasi, Gentleman Johnny)
Grapefruit21 - 2 (Wuffles_II, vezokpiraka)
Not Voting - 1 (TheRealStinkyJoeTerry)
Day 1 Final Votecount
Anaklusmos - 9 (tomsloger, Wuffles_II, Gentleman Johnny, Grapefruit21, vezokpiraka, KamikazeArchon, Fuwa, osieorb18, Lastwhisper)
vezokpiraka - 6 (DoTArchon, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, Vaimes, kpaca, Anaklusmos, Rodemy)
Wuffles_II - 1 (Ganderin_dan)
honestly with the way the Day 2 EoD VC looks like, kami and vaimes cant be both town
I got 3 yellows on Fuwa, which kinda makes me not want to vote there?
Still think theres scum in grape/wuffles, but not both
GJ is still a ??? for me
Kami
your theory was bad anyways, I am never mafia... or sk, or any evil, like seriously...
Fuwa is probably town, but her votes are *****, and shes not doing much of anything...
Realistically to me, its more like this...
Day 2 Final Votecount
vezokpiraka - 8 (Rodemy, tomsloger, Fuwa, kpaca, Lastwhisper, KamikazeArchon, Vaimes, osieorb18)
Fuwa - 4 (Grapefruit21, DoTArchon, Manasi, Gentleman Johnny)
Grapefruit21 - 2 (Wuffles_II, vezokpiraka)
Not Voting - 1 (TheRealStinkyJoeTerry)
Day 1 Final Votecount
Anaklusmos - 9 (tomsloger, Wuffles_II, Gentleman Johnny, Grapefruit21, vezokpiraka, KamikazeArchon, Fuwa, osieorb18, Lastwhisper)
vezokpiraka - 6 (DoTArchon, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, Vaimes, kpaca, Anaklusmos, Rodemy)
Wuffles_II - 1 (Ganderin_dan)
honestly its really hard to move people out from vote analysis alone...
the scum team is def in those 6 yellows, because I cant see Tom being scum, or Dota (because I still think DV was town), and Rodemy, well I have a good feeling about him, and its telling me hes town hunting with poor reasons...
vote: Vaimes
now that we pretty much confirmed there isnt a SK, we still can afford some mislynches, hoping tho that Fuwa can give us a better reason to not vote her today tho...
We can do this guys!