Why are you trying to over-explain? Rodemy understood this. You're trying to push a lynch on me, because everybody is lurking and we won't be able to make another wagon.
It’s good for scum in that Vezok claiming Vanilla probably gets lynched anyway, at least this way he goes down with the jailer outed and maybe even gets the actual jailer lynched instead.
I’m down for a Vezok lynch, will wait to drop a vote until we’re ready.
100% correct.
My issues with Vezok's claim are as such: He strikes me as defeated scum. Look at the difference in tone between 204 and 214! Maybe it's just frustration about having to claim as the jailkeeper, but compare his T/S list in 179 against Rodemy's just above in 171. Vezok's is briefly dropped in, with no further analysis and a passing answer to one of the questions posed to him. I feel like town under pressure would want to use that opportunity to expand on their reads in further detail.
Rodemy explains all of his reads in further detail (not much, but the intent is what matters here), which is more information than he had to provide given the fairly tongue-in-cheek conversation that largely dealt with neighbors.
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@Eco: I wanted to wait until I got a chance to hear from Bur to reveal my thoughts. His language implied he wasn't the jailer, so there was no further effort needed to try and keep him from CCing. I also assumed you were missing that word, but wanted to be sure. As to game length, I'm used to having longer to develop my reads, like I mentioned earlier to shadow.
When I said thoughts on Rodemy/Tom, I meant more along the lines of reads.
@Rodemy: You're not crazy, but I tend to go with the CCer, not the CCee. Sure, the Jailer being outed doesn't help if the scum are trading 1:1, but it's better than 1:0, which a vanilla claim is most likely to do.
Your post in 248 implies you have issue with shadow's explanation. Prey tell?
Rodemy, look, you need to step back and consider the whole picture. There are two possible scenarios here:
FWIW, I see some cognitive dissonance/faulty points here, but I'm not sure it's worth taking up space at this point given that I believe you are the jailer. Postgame, perhaps.
I like how you say the situation in which i am saying is probably happening is possible while throwing so. Much. Shade.
If shadow counterclaimed, he's be less likely to be kept alive due to his lurkiness and, whataya know already suspicion on him.
I just can't see vezok claiming jailer to save himself when it does very little for the scumteam. In fact, it could hurt them.
Eco pushes the jailer lynch because everybody sees town eco except vezok.
Sacrifice himself, get scumpartner to a 2/1 3rd day with ease.
If you hadn't counterclaimed, jailer stays alive and we could possibly cfd scum (at this point i believe is shadow.)
Why would scum vezok push you? You are so widly seen as town, scumteam would be pushing someone less active.
But you meticulously got vezok to a lynch position with very little. His arguments againat you no longer seem dull.
I hate these situations because all this IS very possible. Its not some crazy rodemy theory, it is (as you said) one of 2 possible situations.
So, tell me, how can he get the jailer lynched if it's not you? He has no case on anyone else.
Also, bite the nk? Girl you know if you got vezok dead you would 100% be dead toNight. Don't try and sound like you were being noble and sacrificing yourself. ♡
But hey, you don't need my vote to lynch him sooo, you do you and we'll see if i'm right.
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Rod, Vezok claiming jailer literally cannot hurt the scum team when he was already the default lynch today. If he had claimed Vanilla, he would have definitely been lynched. This way he forces the real jailer (eco) into claiming, getting his consolation prize.
Also instesd of cou tetclaiming snd "sacrificing yourself" you could hsve just jailed vezok
Why would I pass up a guaranteed scum lynch? Why would Vezok perform the kill? Like you don't seem to understand that fake counter claiming jailer at non-LyLo is incredibly stupid and surrendering a virtually universal town read just to get the jailer lynched would be just such poor play. It's almost insulting that you think I'd make this kind of play.
No. The PR is outed, you kill him at night and mislynch a different townie day one. Then day two is Lylo with a chance to win instead of guaranteed scum death.
Also, if Vezok was town, he wouldn’t just say “I don’t know what eco is doing” and peace out.
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Things had started to deteriorate in the neighborhood. Tensions were high and no one could be trusted. Someone shouted "we don't even know his face! How can we trust someone we've never seen?" The cry was quickly taken up and the circle tighten around Wilson. Then silence.
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I'm 99% on rodemy town, mostly just on behavior but also I asked vezok in neighborhood about the derp tell at the time and he tried to discredit it. Saying rodemy was the type to misread his role pm and blah blah basically it was before anyone had posted about it in thread and he was minimizing the derpclear and no way vezok doesn't steer in to his buddy fake derping lol
So we can lynch bur AND Dan ftw imo
For the record, eco thought Dan over bur. I disagree, but I don't really think it matters.
I am down for a dan lynch. He was the first to ping me as scummy for his posts (something felt off about them)
Besides tom. I have this feeling in the back of my head that says vezok could have just chosen his scum partner, but i was wrong about eco.. WHICH REMINDS ME.
Dearest brit whose name is Eco
Sorry i thought you were being sneako
Vezoks dead, but so are you.
Boo hoo hoo. Boo hoo hoo.
I was wrong about you, friend.
Lets hope town wins this in the end
Hang them high from a real tall tree
This a poem, love Rodemy.
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Combining tom’s reasons to believe Rodemy is town with my own (he much more clearly in neighbor chat thought that scum didn’t get a chat with their partner automatically) I’m happy to lynch through Dan/Bur.
@Dan/@Bur: if either one of you has any serious concern about Tom or Rodemy, now is the time to air them. Because assuming one of you is scum (very very likely) town is going to win.
100% correct.
My issues with Vezok's claim are as such: He strikes me as defeated scum. Look at the difference in tone between 204 and 214! Maybe it's just frustration about having to claim as the jailkeeper, but compare his T/S list in 179 against Rodemy's just above in 171. Vezok's is briefly dropped in, with no further analysis and a passing answer to one of the questions posed to him. I feel like town under pressure would want to use that opportunity to expand on their reads in further detail.
Rodemy explains all of his reads in further detail (not much, but the intent is what matters here), which is more information than he had to provide given the fairly tongue-in-cheek conversation that largely dealt with neighbors.
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@Eco: I wanted to wait until I got a chance to hear from Bur to reveal my thoughts. His language implied he wasn't the jailer, so there was no further effort needed to try and keep him from CCing. I also assumed you were missing that word, but wanted to be sure. As to game length, I'm used to having longer to develop my reads, like I mentioned earlier to shadow.
When I said thoughts on Rodemy/Tom, I meant more along the lines of reads.
@Rodemy: You're not crazy, but I tend to go with the CCer, not the CCee. Sure, the Jailer being outed doesn't help if the scum are trading 1:1, but it's better than 1:0, which a vanilla claim is most likely to do.
Your post in 248 implies you have issue with shadow's explanation. Prey tell?
Vote: Vezok
FWIW, I see some cognitive dissonance/faulty points here, but I'm not sure it's worth taking up space at this point given that I believe you are the jailer. Postgame, perhaps.
If shadow counterclaimed, he's be less likely to be kept alive due to his lurkiness and, whataya know already suspicion on him.
I just can't see vezok claiming jailer to save himself when it does very little for the scumteam. In fact, it could hurt them.
Eco pushes the jailer lynch because everybody sees town eco except vezok.
Sacrifice himself, get scumpartner to a 2/1 3rd day with ease.
If you hadn't counterclaimed, jailer stays alive and we could possibly cfd scum (at this point i believe is shadow.)
Why would scum vezok push you? You are so widly seen as town, scumteam would be pushing someone less active.
But you meticulously got vezok to a lynch position with very little. His arguments againat you no longer seem dull.
I hate these situations because all this IS very possible. Its not some crazy rodemy theory, it is (as you said) one of 2 possible situations.
So, tell me, how can he get the jailer lynched if it's not you? He has no case on anyone else.
Also, bite the nk? Girl you know if you got vezok dead you would 100% be dead toNight. Don't try and sound like you were being noble and sacrificing yourself. ♡
But hey, you don't need my vote to lynch him sooo, you do you and we'll see if i'm right.
Why would I pass up a guaranteed scum lynch? Why would Vezok perform the kill? Like you don't seem to understand that fake counter claiming jailer at non-LyLo is incredibly stupid and surrendering a virtually universal town read just to get the jailer lynched would be just such poor play. It's almost insulting that you think I'd make this kind of play.
Which isnt gonna happen.
So you do not get my vote.
And if i am right i am not gonna let this go. Be sure of it.
I will accept apologies in the form of a Haiku, limerick, or in the form of any other short poem.
@Shadow Wait for Bur pls
It kills jailer before they can do anything.
It literally gets your teamate to last day with only 3 players.
And you cant get any reads d2 because you would be the lynch.
Like, it's wonderful micro play.
It is when you get the only pr d1?
Also, if Vezok was town, he wouldn’t just say “I don’t know what eco is doing” and peace out.
Only reasom he'd cc is if only one of the scumteam can kill?
Idk. My brain done a hurt.
See ya'll toMorrow.
I'm here, done with the ISO.
Same
vote Iso
Not really, I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm fine with Vezok lynch.
And if eco's scum (unlikely) that sucks but we lynch him tomorrow then have a day to find his buddy
It's all gucci
Vezokpiraka (4): Ecophagy, tomsloger, Ganderin_Dan, shadowlancerx
Ecophagy (2): Vezokpiraka, Rodemny
Note voting 1: Bur
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Eco blocked shadow he's confirmed town.
I'm 99% on rodemy town, mostly just on behavior but also I asked vezok in neighborhood about the derp tell at the time and he tried to discredit it. Saying rodemy was the type to misread his role pm and blah blah basically it was before anyone had posted about it in thread and he was minimizing the derpclear and no way vezok doesn't steer in to his buddy fake derping lol
So we can lynch bur AND Dan ftw imo
For the record, eco thought Dan over bur. I disagree, but I don't really think it matters.
ecoshadow
rodemy
dan
bur
vezokBesides tom. I have this feeling in the back of my head that says vezok could have just chosen his scum partner, but i was wrong about eco.. WHICH REMINDS ME.
Dearest brit whose name is Eco
Sorry i thought you were being sneako
Vezoks dead, but so are you.
Boo hoo hoo. Boo hoo hoo.
I was wrong about you, friend.
Lets hope town wins this in the end
Hang them high from a real tall tree
This a poem, love Rodemy.
Bur didn't say a word to me last Night
vote dan
vote bur
It doesn’t really matter, and if we kill Bur and he’s scum it will make me chuckle at the pressure wagon from earlier.
Tempting offer that I'll think over my dinner, glass of vodka and vezok's ISO.
unvote
Ready to hammer
No reason not to let him have his vodka and make a post though