Silver Actually, whoever gets the gun /should/ just shoot me.
really... it what world would you think this gives you town points?
I want to go to sleep
I have no idea about silver, he's just being scumread by people I kinda townread
I'm being scum read by people I think are scum because they're scum.
And Iso, but I have no idea what he's on about still and I'm done arguing with him.
I think Gemma and shadow are aligned based off one of shadow's posts where he says not to lynch Gemma since she replace but earlier said don't lync hthe new folk from mal becus scum are scum
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still kinda dont get how the Gemma/Wisp dichotomy came into existence, or any of them for example... and why do you believe your town reads cant be wrong...
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I specifically said they could be.
But there's not much chance they /all/ are.
There are three scum left. There's either one bussing DoTA or the wagon is clean.
There's at least one more on Vezok because he's the counterwagon to what would have been a scum lynch.
There's probably one that isn't voting Vezok or DoTA.
Out of the ones that aren't voting Vezok or DoTA, I'm townreading all of them except you and Gemma. So one of you is probably a wolf.
Out of the ones on DoTA, it's either DBS or Wuffles or the wagon is clean. If the wagon is clean, there's probably one in my town reads. Shadow seems most likely of those.
Dawn do you think we can just pass items around willy nilly?
Terry seemed to be the target with the wording of DoTA's abilities, so he should is closer to conf!town.
Puzzle Box might help Rhand, if he did visit Shadow as suspected.
the others should know how to use AH stuff better than me.
And it didn't seem like you were super interested in lynching DoTA until he was already a wagon... I'd hardly call you the "wagon starter." But even if you were, bussing is A Thing. A thing I don't think Cyan was doing but that I think you could have been.
I did start the wagon, after analyzing that Vezok's claim was more town than scum. Cyan hopped on. only in that duration, things happened that made me not the 1st vote. please backread.
I haven't bused in meta nor am I interested in it. assuming that about me is shade.
I have no idea about silver, he's just being scumread by people I kinda townread
I'm being scum read by people I think are scum because they're scum.
And Iso, but I have no idea what he's on about still and I'm done arguing with him.
I think Gemma and shadow are aligned based off one of shadow's posts where he says not to lynch Gemma since she replace but earlier said don't lync hthe new folk from mal becus scum are scum
in 1712 you say its probably silver/shadow/gemma, why would silver create a dichotomy between me and his scum buddy, when I flipped town, he would have to hard push gemma just off his own reads... I mean that'd be one hell of a powerwolf...
Terry
1. No one is debating you are lock town... imo cyan is lock town also, and I am def not gunna vote for you to get the gun back when ur threatening to shoot me... (ok maybe saying the gun wasnt urs was bad)
2. I wanted the gun, what can I say... never really cared for allowing u to get the gun anyways.
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I’m not going to shoot anyone but wuffles until he drinks the potion, then I’ll consider who to shoot. Anyways I think I can solve this today. Give me a day to spit this out
There are three scum left. There's either one bussing DoTA or the wagon is clean.
Terry was the counterwagon to scum, which means busing was unlikely. and if you want to talk about busing being a thing, Prophylaxis has bused before (I have yet to even establish my scum meta). why aren't you looking into someone who has bused from record, but would want to assume that about someone who has no record of it yet?
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Terry
1. No one is debating you are lock town... imo cyan is lock town also, and I am def not gunna vote for you to get the gun back when ur threatening to shoot me... (ok maybe saying the gun wasnt urs was bad)
2. I wanted the gun, what can I say... never really cared for allowing u to get the gun anyways.
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I’m not going to shoot anyone but wuffles until he drinks the potion, then I’ll consider who to shoot. Anyways I think I can solve this today. Give me a day to spit this out
Meh I am used to it... your learn to love or hate me, and wuffles drank the potion, now we just need to wait
And it didn't seem like you were super interested in lynching DoTA until he was already a wagon... I'd hardly call you the "wagon starter." But even if you were, bussing is A Thing. A thing I don't think Cyan was doing but that I think you could have been.
I did start the wagon, after analyzing that Vezok's claim was more town than scum. Cyan hopped on. only in that duration, things happened that made me not the 1st vote. please backread.
I haven't bused in meta nor am I interested in it. assuming that about me is shade.
I mean. It doesn't matter whether you have bussed before or whether you claim to be interested in it or not. Obviously, if you're DoTA's partner, you aren't going to admit you bussed him.
Actually, whoever gets the gun /should/ just shoot me.
And then everyone can lynch DBS/Tom when I flip town. Thanks.
this would be the idk..2nd time I've seen AtE from you. the 1st time was when you talked about being lenient with me.
Before, I was just explaining why I hadn't forced you to give a real read on me yet. Because you can't use the stuff from the QT until the game is over. Now you... still don't have a real read on me, you're just saying I'm scum because I think you may have bussed DoTA. Which is... basically the definition of OMGUS. I'm apparently supposed to "know" that you'll never bus and just take your word for it and if I don't, well, I must be scum.
And yeah, it's not AtE, I actually /do/ want shot. Mostly because I'm not interested in rehashing yesterday or the D1 of every game I've been in ever, but also because I did a thing I knew not to do last night and I'll probably be dead by D3 anyway. If I'm in the PoE, shoot me now. That's not AtE, it's me telling you that's the mechanically correct play.
There are three scum left. There's either one bussing DoTA or the wagon is clean.
Terry was the counterwagon to scum, which means busing was unlikely. and if you want to talk about busing being a thing, Prophylaxis has bused before (I have yet to even establish my scum meta). why aren't you looking into someone who has bused from record, but would want to assume that about someone who has no record of it yet?
typo lol. Vezok, not Terry.
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still kinda dont get how the Gemma/Wisp dichotomy came into existence, or any of them for example... and why do you believe your town reads cant be wrong...
*goes to sleep*
I specifically said they could be.
But there's not much chance they /all/ are.
There are three scum left. There's either one bussing DoTA or the wagon is clean.
There's at least one more on Vezok because he's the counterwagon to what would have been a scum lynch.
There's probably one that isn't voting Vezok or DoTA.
Out of the ones that aren't voting Vezok or DoTA, I'm townreading all of them except you and Gemma. So one of you is probably a wolf.
Out of the ones on DoTA, it's either DBS or Wuffles or the wagon is clean. If the wagon is clean, there's probably one in my town reads. Shadow seems most likely of those.
yo this is literally what I said that you shaded me for
I pulled myself together in time to stifle a scream. After all, what more was there than I might have expected, assuming that I had really believed Akeley’s letters? He had spoken of making peace with the things. Why, then, was it strange that some of them had visited his house? But the terror was stronger than the reassurance. Could any man be expected to look unmoved for the first time upon the claw-marks of animate beings from outer depths of space? Just then I saw Noyes emerge from the door and approach with a brisk step. I must, I reflected, keep command of myself, for the chances were this genial friend knew nothing of Akeley’s profoundest and most stupendous probings into the forbidden.
vote: Silver
still kinda dont get how the Gemma/Wisp dichotomy came into existence, or any of them for example... and why do you believe your town reads cant be wrong...
*goes to sleep*
I specifically said they could be.
But there's not much chance they /all/ are.
There are three scum left. There's either one bussing DoTA or the wagon is clean.
There's at least one more on Vezok because he's the counterwagon to what would have been a scum lynch.
There's probably one that isn't voting Vezok or DoTA.
Out of the ones that aren't voting Vezok or DoTA, I'm townreading all of them except you and Gemma. So one of you is probably a wolf.
Out of the ones on DoTA, it's either DBS or Wuffles or the wagon is clean. If the wagon is clean, there's probably one in my town reads. Shadow seems most likely of those.
yo this is literally what I said that you shaded me for
I "shaded" you for saying "plow through the oranges imo" when you had /six people/ there. Not for doing wagon analysis.
Silver
you know I tend to just be spontaneous and most of the stuff that comes out of my mouth is scummy as hell, but one thing I refuse to do anymore is hold town hostage by advocating for the suicide of myself, and expect some unanimous town lean from everyone to come around...
"the mechanically correct play" for you, would be to not do what you are doing now...
I mean. It doesn't matter whether you have bussed before or whether you claim to be interested in it or not. Obviously, if you're DoTA's partner, you aren't going to admit you bussed him.
Before, I was just explaining why I hadn't forced you to give a real read on me yet. Because you can't use the stuff from the QT until the game is over. Now you... still don't have a real read on me, you're just saying I'm scum because I think you may have bussed DoTA. Which is... basically the definition of OMGUS. I'm apparently supposed to "know" that you'll never bus and just take your word for it and if I don't, well, I must be scum.
And yeah, it's not AtE, I actually /do/ want shot. Mostly because I'm not interested in rehashing yesterday or the D1 of every game I've been in ever, but also because I did a thing I knew not to do last night and I'll probably be dead by D3 anyway. If I'm in the PoE, shoot me now. That's not AtE, it's me telling you that's the mechanically correct play.
1. considering meta should factor into reading someone. someone with more experience is more likely to bus over someone who just started out, since getting used to pushing your partner will take a while to learn. I don't have much experience, so busing is really not in my meta.
2. you hadn't asked me to case you since I haven't suspected you. I suspected you could be scum or I would've not assumed your Leniency Talk was AtE.
3. what is mechanically incorrect play? what are you referring to?
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you know I tend to just be spontaneous and most of the stuff that comes out of my mouth is scummy as hell, but one thing I refuse to do anymore is hold town hostage by advocating for the suicide of myself, and expect some unanimous town lean from everyone to come around...
"the mechanically correct play" for you, would be to not do what you are doing now...
I'm not holding anyone hostage. I'd need a gun or some kind of mechanical way to force a lynch or a governor power or something to do that.
“Night Action — Heist
Once per game, you may conduct a heist. Any number of your fellow Scum members can participate in the heist. Each player will steal an item from the Auction House at random. This is the only Night action for players that participate.”
So Dota bought the puzzle box and used his thief kill on me to steal my gun. The puzzle box allowed him to also perform the heist. He got the twin scepters and two other scum buddies joined him in the heist, forfeiting their night actions. So whoever is holding potions of speed or map of other worlds is scum. That also means that 1 scum (assuming we had 4 to start) that performed a night action besides the heist.
Ok now, I’m not dead. That means someone saved me and is confirmed town. Wuffles drank the potion, so assume he flips town. We should have 3 confirmed town going into today’s lynch. I don’t think the doc that saved me should claim quite yet, it might be too early.
I pulled myself together in time to stifle a scream. After all, what more was there than I might have expected, assuming that I had really believed Akeley’s letters? He had spoken of making peace with the things. Why, then, was it strange that some of them had visited his house? But the terror was stronger than the reassurance. Could any man be expected to look unmoved for the first time upon the claw-marks of animate beings from outer depths of space? Just then I saw Noyes emerge from the door and approach with a brisk step. I must, I reflected, keep command of myself, for the chances were this genial friend knew nothing of Akeley’s profoundest and most stupendous probings into the forbidden.
If a player does not have a will, or fails to update it for an item or increase in cash, then any extra loot will be divided up as players see fit. Players will vote on who gets which items or extra cash. This voting process will end the same time as the voting for auction house items ends if a majority is not reached, at which point the player with the highest votes will gain the item. If two players or more are tied, then it will be randomly decided between those players.
Voting for these items will end when voting for the auction house items ends which is in three days.
1. considering meta should factor into reading someone. someone with more experience is more likely to bus over someone who just started out, since getting used to pushing your partner will take a while to learn. I don't have much experience, so busing is really not in my meta.
2. you hadn't asked me to case you since I haven't suspected you. I suspected you could be scum or I would've not assumed your Leniency Talk was AtE.
3. what is mechanically incorrect play? what are you referring to?
1. I don't know what experience you may or may not have from playing at MAL, but bussing DoTA would have been like bussing a fish out of water. He wasn't even around to complain about it.
2. I literally asked for you to give a real read on me when I said I had been being lenient after you voted me yesterDay.
3. I'm referring to the fact that I'm not going to be able to clear myself and will likely end up lynched unless I'm extremely lucky. It's better to just shoot me because I will likely end up dead due to forces beyond my control by D3 if not sooner, /but/ I don't expect anyone to actually believe that. If I'm actually alive, I'll likely be investigated and lynched forthwith, but I'm town, so shooting me now is optimal.
I want zero part of this wagon on Silver. Just none of it. And that's with me agreeing his dichotomies do feel forced. But so do toms and no one is rushing to lynch tom (granted Wisp wouldn't be because if tom is scum, Wisp is scum too). He is kind of crashing and burning right now, but I still don't think scum!Silver bothers with the Vezok/Grape buddy read when he knows we're both town.
@DBS Information is power but we don't full claim immediately at the start of games. And I thought the full scum team automatically participated in the heist until I double checked the wording. They don't. I was sad, but not surprised.
@RE because information is power. The scum team clearly was organizing it's plans based on what items are and do (see targeting Terry despite him being the most obvious doc protect ever) and putting an item that does nothing but give information about the Auction House up for bidding is bad news. Once AH claims are made and we can organize then putting the information out there can be helpful but until town is in a place where we can organize (which basically requires mass AH claiming) we should not be giving out information about the AH. Does that answer your question?
I think Derp Clearing Iso is the way to go.
Vote 3 Silver: RE
Vote 3 Silver: Terry
Vote 3 Silver: KamikazeArchon
Vote tommy gun: Terry
Vote Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan: Iso
Want people who can actually use the scepters or puzzle box well to get them, but don't want people outing themselves...
1. considering meta should factor into reading someone. someone with more experience is more likely to bus over someone who just started out, since getting used to pushing your partner will take a while to learn. I don't have much experience, so busing is really not in my meta.
2. you hadn't asked me to case you since I haven't suspected you. I suspected you could be scum or I would've not assumed your Leniency Talk was AtE.
3. what is mechanically incorrect play? what are you referring to?
1. I don't know what experience you may or may not have from playing at MAL, but bussing DoTA would have been like bussing a fish out of water. He wasn't even around to complain about it.
2. I literally asked for you to give a real read on me when I said I had been being lenient after you voted me yesterDay.
3. I'm referring to the fact that I'm not going to be able to clear myself and will likely end up lynched unless I'm extremely lucky. It's better to just shoot me because I will likely end up dead due to forces beyond my control by D3 if not sooner, /but/ I don't expect anyone to actually believe that. If I'm actually alive, I'll likely be investigated and lynched forthwith, but I'm town, so shooting me now is optimal.
Ah, I should make it clear that I'm not claiming miller.
I know for a fact you've been playing longer than me or Wisp. And neither of us are exactly noobs. And especially not to the point where we wouldn't be comfortable bussing (which for me was the more comfortable play to make as noob scum but ymmv)
I can use the puzzle box :(. And I'm not crashing and burning, honestly I voted for the Tommy gun... If it came to litght later in the game that I was actually the person who voted the Tommy gun against Terry, then that'd be an instant scum read. Rather be honest now...
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1. considering meta should factor into reading someone. someone with more experience is more likely to bus over someone who just started out, since getting used to pushing your partner will take a while to learn. I don't have much experience, so busing is really not in my meta.
2. you hadn't asked me to case you since I haven't suspected you. I suspected you could be scum or I would've not assumed your Leniency Talk was AtE.
3. what is mechanically incorrect play? what are you referring to?
1. I don't know what experience you may or may not have from playing at MAL, but bussing DoTA would have been like bussing a fish out of water. He wasn't even around to complain about it.
2. I literally asked for you to give a real read on me when I said I had been being lenient after you voted me yesterDay.
3. I'm referring to the fact that I'm not going to be able to clear myself and will likely end up lynched unless I'm extremely lucky. It's better to just shoot me because I will likely end up dead due to forces beyond my control by D3 if not sooner, /but/ I don't expect anyone to actually believe that. If I'm actually alive, I'll likely be investigated and lynched forthwith, but I'm town, so shooting me now is optimal.
1. if you don't know my meta from MAL, then shouldn't you assume I'm starting over on this site? it still boils down to me having less experience.
2. it was coupled with AtE though. as for the case itself, I've also said it already - 2 pages of mechanics and 2 pages of questions, with the latter half page 4 being deadline-driven (which looks more like wanting to get a lynch rather than gamesolve).
3. ok I see. as I said, having you take the truth potion would be a good alternative. you suggested Wuffles take it instead - it is only your fault if you have no way to clear yourself mechanically. it's unreasonable to complain about lack of mechanic clearance when the Potion of Truth was still available. so yes, shooting you is optimal.
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I indeed visited Shadow, so DBS’s action is confirmed (can still be scum tracker, but occam says town).
@DBS: I don’t need the puzzlebox. I was one-shot.
I used my shot well tho. I copped Shadow. He is scum.
We should shoot Shadow / lynch KJ or the other way around.
vote: Shadow
vote: Tommygun for Terry vote: all money for Rhand vote: Twin Scepters for Rhand
There was unquestionably at least one other scum on the Vezok wagon when DOTA got on it. That is overwhelmingly the most obvious reason he would get on that wagon at the time he did.
I remember Iso and Silver being on at the time(Iso cleverly left later), and 2 people that I don't remember now.
But if I'm right, the scum is either Iso or Silver. And I honestly think there is a greater than zero chance it's both.
Also, given how against the DoT wagon Cyan was in the 11th hour despite him being obvscum towards the end, I don't trust Cyan with the Tommy Gun. I'd much rather Kamikaze have it because he's likely to be who the scum targeted for the kill last Night.
You're either very confused or just flatly lying. I don't think you really make mistakes, so I'm just going to go with the latter. At no point was I EVER opposed to DOTA getting lynched. His was the only lynch I wanted for the latter part of the day, and I clearly laid out multiple reasons why.
Yeah you definitely know better. This is damage control and nothing else. Iso is scum and either A)is bussing Silver to try and make himself look better or B)is just trying to get someone else dead before himself.
Oh and also, I bandaged myself last night with the Bandages Vezok gave me. This can be confirmed by anyone that can check Sanity, as I also gained the 1 Sanity from them.
I was right about Vezok. I was right about DOTA. I'm right about this too. Iso is scum, I don't give a ***** what he did last night(especially considering that he figured he'd be a likely target for Watch/Track/whatever) to try and make himself look better.
I know for a fact you've been playing longer than me or Wisp. And neither of us are exactly noobs. And especially not to the point where we wouldn't be comfortable bussing (which for me was the more comfortable play to make as noob scum but ymmv)
even if I played longer than you, I have less on record than you (who played on multiple sites), besides also having rolled town more than any other alignment.
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I can use the puzzle box :(. And I'm not crashing and burning, honestly I voted for the Tommy gun... If it came to litght later in the game that I was actually the person who voted the Tommy gun against Terry, then that'd be an instant scum read. Rather be honest now...
That was directed at Silver. You're tired and have been trying to go to bed for like an hour. Sleep and play when your head is on straight.
Wisp it was already already obvious to anyone watching that you were lot 75. I knew you were when I tried to remind everyone in a friendly way that 2 silver was less than 1 gold.
2. it was coupled with AtE though. as for the case itself, I've also said it already - 2 pages of mechanics and 2 pages of questions, with the latter half page 4 being deadline-driven (which looks more like wanting to get a lynch rather than gamesolve).
3. ok I see. as I said, having you take the truth potion would be a good alternative. you suggested Wuffles take it instead - it is only your fault if you have no way to clear yourself mechanically. it's unreasonable to complain about lack of mechanic clearance when the Potion of Truth was still available. so yes, shooting you is optimal.
2. That isn't a real read. There's barely a half page of mechanics, it's practically a straight-up lie.
3. There's absolutely no way to get the potion into my hands short of Wuffles willing it to me and someone shooting him, which isn't much better from an objective standpoint. I couldn't have drank the potion even if I wanted to.
I indeed visited Shadow, so DBS’s action is confirmed (can still be scum tracker, but occam says town).
@DBS: I don’t need the puzzlebox. I was one-shot.
I used my shot well tho. I copped Shadow. He is scum.
We should shoot Shadow / lynch KJ or the other way around.
hmmm only 1-shot.. but good to know you hit scum.
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I indeed visited Shadow, so DBS’s action is confirmed (can still be scum tracker, but occam says town).
@DBS: I don’t need the puzzlebox. I was one-shot.
I used my shot well tho. I copped Shadow. He is scum.
We should shoot Shadow / lynch KJ or the other way around.
vote: Shadow
vote: Tommygun for Terry vote: all money for Rhand vote: Twin Scepters for Rhand
That is actually really sad for shadow. vote: shadow
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@DBS looking at your stats you have played about 10 more games than I have, and we have the same number of scum games iirc mine correctly. I don't think it's a particullary relevant conversation but you are very obviously experienced enough to bus. Also this being either your third or 4th game here is enough where you're not really even "new" here any more.
There was unquestionably at least one other scum on the Vezok wagon when DOTA got on it. That is overwhelmingly the most obvious reason he would get on that wagon at the time he did.
I remember Iso and Silver being on at the time(Iso cleverly left later), and 2 people that I don't remember now.
The other two people were Kami and shadow, so if Rhand has an actual guilty on shadow I might not have my reads completely upside down.
2. it was coupled with AtE though. as for the case itself, I've also said it already - 2 pages of mechanics and 2 pages of questions, with the latter half page 4 being deadline-driven (which looks more like wanting to get a lynch rather than gamesolve).
3. ok I see. as I said, having you take the truth potion would be a good alternative. you suggested Wuffles take it instead - it is only your fault if you have no way to clear yourself mechanically. it's unreasonable to complain about lack of mechanic clearance when the Potion of Truth was still available. so yes, shooting you is optimal.
2. That isn't a real read. There's barely a half page of mechanics, it's practically a straight-up lie.
3. There's absolutely no way to get the potion into my hands short of Wuffles willing it to me and someone shooting him, which isn't much better from an objective standpoint. I couldn't have drank the potion even if I wanted to.
2. you were talking about the Tommy Gun for a while. and about the AH deadline. it's kinda similar to DoTA's ISO, lots of quotes with few lines of your thoughts.
3. we didn't know Wuffles won the Potion of Truth though. unless I overlooked something. at least you suggesting yourself take it would look better than asking Wuffles to waste it, then say you can't mechanically clear yourself.
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Actually, whoever gets the gun /should/ just shoot me.
really... it what world would you think this gives you town points?
I want to go to sleep
But there's not much chance they /all/ are.
There are three scum left. There's either one bussing DoTA or the wagon is clean.
There's at least one more on Vezok because he's the counterwagon to what would have been a scum lynch.
There's probably one that isn't voting Vezok or DoTA.
Out of the ones that aren't voting Vezok or DoTA, I'm townreading all of them except you and Gemma. So one of you is probably a wolf.
Out of the ones on DoTA, it's either DBS or Wuffles or the wagon is clean. If the wagon is clean, there's probably one in my town reads. Shadow seems most likely of those.
Puzzle Box might help Rhand, if he did visit Shadow as suspected.
the others should know how to use AH stuff better than me.
I did start the wagon, after analyzing that Vezok's claim was more town than scum. Cyan hopped on. only in that duration, things happened that made me not the 1st vote. please backread.
I haven't bused in meta nor am I interested in it. assuming that about me is shade.
this would be the idk..2nd time I've seen AtE from you. the 1st time was when you talked about being lenient with me.
Be grateful, always."
vote: tomsloger
in 1712 you say its probably silver/shadow/gemma, why would silver create a dichotomy between me and his scum buddy, when I flipped town, he would have to hard push gemma just off his own reads... I mean that'd be one hell of a powerwolf...
I’m not going to shoot anyone but wuffles until he drinks the potion, then I’ll consider who to shoot. Anyways I think I can solve this today. Give me a day to spit this out
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I'm still convinced you are intentionally being dense about it.
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Meh I am used to it... your learn to love or hate me, and wuffles drank the potion, now we just need to wait
Before, I was just explaining why I hadn't forced you to give a real read on me yet. Because you can't use the stuff from the QT until the game is over. Now you... still don't have a real read on me, you're just saying I'm scum because I think you may have bussed DoTA. Which is... basically the definition of OMGUS. I'm apparently supposed to "know" that you'll never bus and just take your word for it and if I don't, well, I must be scum.
And yeah, it's not AtE, I actually /do/ want shot. Mostly because I'm not interested in rehashing yesterday or the D1 of every game I've been in ever, but also because I did a thing I knew not to do last night and I'll probably be dead by D3 anyway. If I'm in the PoE, shoot me now. That's not AtE, it's me telling you that's the mechanically correct play.
Be grateful, always."
I pulled myself together in time to stifle a scream. After all, what more was there than I might have expected, assuming that I had really believed Akeley’s letters? He had spoken of making peace with the things. Why, then, was it strange that some of them had visited his house? But the terror was stronger than the reassurance. Could any man be expected to look unmoved for the first time upon the claw-marks of animate beings from outer depths of space? Just then I saw Noyes emerge from the door and approach with a brisk step. I must, I reflected, keep command of myself, for the chances were this genial friend knew nothing of Akeley’s profoundest and most stupendous probings into the forbidden.
Silvercrys3467 (4) - dawningbluesky, tomslogger, Iso, Lastwhisper
tomsloger (1) - Silvercrys3467
Not voting: Gemma,KamikazeArchon, shadowlancerx, Grapefruit21, killjoy, Prophylaxis , TheRealStinkyJoeTerry , RE1031, Cyan, vezokpiraka, Wuffles_II, Rhand, Atogaholic, Iso
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry (5) – TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, shadowlancerx, RE1031, dawningbluesky, Iso
Cyan (3) – Prophylaxis, Silvercrys3467, LastWhisper
RE1031(1) – dawningbluesky
Rhand (1) – dawningbluesky
Iso *9* (2) - dawningbluesky, Iso
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry*6*(2) - RE1031, Lastwhisper
RE1031 *3*(1) - RE1031
Lastwhisper *3*(1) - LastWhisper
you know I tend to just be spontaneous and most of the stuff that comes out of my mouth is scummy as hell, but one thing I refuse to do anymore is hold town hostage by advocating for the suicide of myself, and expect some unanimous town lean from everyone to come around...
"the mechanically correct play" for you, would be to not do what you are doing now...
1. considering meta should factor into reading someone. someone with more experience is more likely to bus over someone who just started out, since getting used to pushing your partner will take a while to learn. I don't have much experience, so busing is really not in my meta.
2. you hadn't asked me to case you since I haven't suspected you. I suspected you could be scum or I would've not assumed your Leniency Talk was AtE.
3. what is mechanically incorrect play? what are you referring to?
Be grateful, always."
Why do I alwways end up believing these ***** AtE's?
unvote
vote: Gemma
but can you explain why Silver could be town with this? is he tunneling? doesn't look like it.
Be grateful, always."
Once per game, you may conduct a heist. Any number of your fellow Scum members can participate in the heist. Each player will steal an item from the Auction House at random. This is the only Night action for players that participate.”
So Dota bought the puzzle box and used his thief kill on me to steal my gun. The puzzle box allowed him to also perform the heist. He got the twin scepters and two other scum buddies joined him in the heist, forfeiting their night actions. So whoever is holding potions of speed or map of other worlds is scum. That also means that 1 scum (assuming we had 4 to start) that performed a night action besides the heist.
Ok now, I’m not dead. That means someone saved me and is confirmed town. Wuffles drank the potion, so assume he flips town. We should have 3 confirmed town going into today’s lynch. I don’t think the doc that saved me should claim quite yet, it might be too early.
Voting for these items will end when voting for the auction house items ends which is in three days.
We should have an additional clear of whoever killed dota too
Seemsgood
1. I don't know what experience you may or may not have from playing at MAL, but bussing DoTA would have been like bussing a fish out of water. He wasn't even around to complain about it.
2. I literally asked for you to give a real read on me when I said I had been being lenient after you voted me yesterDay.
3. I'm referring to the fact that I'm not going to be able to clear myself and will likely end up lynched unless I'm extremely lucky. It's better to just shoot me because I will likely end up dead due to forces beyond my control by D3 if not sooner, /but/ I don't expect anyone to actually believe that. If I'm actually alive, I'll likely be investigated and lynched forthwith, but I'm town, so shooting me now is optimal.
Be grateful, always."
@DBS Information is power but we don't full claim immediately at the start of games. And I thought the full scum team automatically participated in the heist until I double checked the wording. They don't. I was sad, but not surprised.
@RE because information is power. The scum team clearly was organizing it's plans based on what items are and do (see targeting Terry despite him being the most obvious doc protect ever) and putting an item that does nothing but give information about the Auction House up for bidding is bad news. Once AH claims are made and we can organize then putting the information out there can be helpful but until town is in a place where we can organize (which basically requires mass AH claiming) we should not be giving out information about the AH. Does that answer your question?
I think Derp Clearing Iso is the way to go.
Vote 3 Silver: RE
Vote 3 Silver: Terry
Vote 3 Silver: KamikazeArchon
Vote tommy gun: Terry
Vote Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan: Iso
Want people who can actually use the scepters or puzzle box well to get them, but don't want people outing themselves...
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I don't really want the books since I don't know what they do.
Also, I guess DoT got the puzzle box to be able to kill and steal, and them perform the Heist in the same Night. That makes sense.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
1. if you don't know my meta from MAL, then shouldn't you assume I'm starting over on this site? it still boils down to me having less experience.
2. it was coupled with AtE though. as for the case itself, I've also said it already - 2 pages of mechanics and 2 pages of questions, with the latter half page 4 being deadline-driven (which looks more like wanting to get a lynch rather than gamesolve).
3. ok I see. as I said, having you take the truth potion would be a good alternative. you suggested Wuffles take it instead - it is only your fault if you have no way to clear yourself mechanically. it's unreasonable to complain about lack of mechanic clearance when the Potion of Truth was still available. so yes, shooting you is optimal.
Be grateful, always."
@DBS: I don’t need the puzzlebox. I was one-shot.
I used my shot well tho. I copped Shadow. He is scum.
We should shoot Shadow / lynch KJ or the other way around.
vote: Shadow
vote: Tommygun for Terry
vote: all money for Rhand
vote: Twin Scepters for Rhand
I remember Iso and Silver being on at the time(Iso cleverly left later), and 2 people that I don't remember now.
But if I'm right, the scum is either Iso or Silver. And I honestly think there is a greater than zero chance it's both.
You're either very confused or just flatly lying. I don't think you really make mistakes, so I'm just going to go with the latter. At no point was I EVER opposed to DOTA getting lynched. His was the only lynch I wanted for the latter part of the day, and I clearly laid out multiple reasons why.
Yeah you definitely know better. This is damage control and nothing else. Iso is scum and either A)is bussing Silver to try and make himself look better or B)is just trying to get someone else dead before himself.
Oh and also, I bandaged myself last night with the Bandages Vezok gave me. This can be confirmed by anyone that can check Sanity, as I also gained the 1 Sanity from them.
I was right about Vezok. I was right about DOTA. I'm right about this too. Iso is scum, I don't give a ***** what he did last night(especially considering that he figured he'd be a likely target for Watch/Track/whatever) to try and make himself look better.
Be grateful, always."
That was directed at Silver. You're tired and have been trying to go to bed for like an hour. Sleep and play when your head is on straight.
Wisp it was already already obvious to anyone watching that you were lot 75. I knew you were when I tried to remind everyone in a friendly way that 2 silver was less than 1 gold.
3. There's absolutely no way to get the potion into my hands short of Wuffles willing it to me and someone shooting him, which isn't much better from an objective standpoint. I couldn't have drank the potion even if I wanted to.
Vote Puzzle Box: TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Be grateful, always."
Vote puzzle box > cyan
Vote 9 silver > iso
Vote 7 cryptic books > RE
Vote twin scepters > tom
Vote: shadowlancerx
Be grateful, always."
vote: shadow
@DBS looking at your stats you have played about 10 more games than I have, and we have the same number of scum games iirc mine correctly. I don't think it's a particullary relevant conversation but you are very obviously experienced enough to bus. Also this being either your third or 4th game here is enough where you're not really even "new" here any more.
2. you were talking about the Tommy Gun for a while. and about the AH deadline. it's kinda similar to DoTA's ISO, lots of quotes with few lines of your thoughts.
3. we didn't know Wuffles won the Potion of Truth though. unless I overlooked something. at least you suggesting yourself take it would look better than asking Wuffles to waste it, then say you can't mechanically clear yourself.
Be grateful, always."