Wtf Give cyan MY gun!? I bought it I was targeted for the NK and Dota stole it. Someone must have protected me
Hang on; DoT's ability says that if he performs the kill, he can steal an item. It doesn't specify that he has to steal it from the target of his kill.
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Wtf Give cyan MY gun!? I bought it I was targeted for the NK and Dota stole it. Someone must have protected me
ohh so u voted 2 gold too my 4 silver
also its not ur gun anymore, but i guess ur pretty much town too?
Tom
Grapes town read of Dota was just how should I put it, "unnecessary?", like why does it even exist
Grape @Wisp how on earth does what you asked RE or her response remotely clear her (apart from the fact that she was mostly clear alr
Well I know she didnt perform any night actions, and her posts kinda feel like it comes from uniformed town rather then scum buddies with Dota
I’ll say this again, no one (Wuffles apparently) should be popping the potion unless they actually are under threat of lynch, or it’s one day before LyLo. It’s just not optimal play.
I’ll say this again, no one (Wuffles apparently) should be popping the potion unless they actually are under threat of lynch, or it’s one day before LyLo. It’s just not optimal play.
Wtf Give cyan MY gun!? I bought it I was targeted for the NK and Dota stole it. Someone must have protected me
Hang on; DoT's ability says that if he performs the kill, he can steal an item. It doesn't specify that he has to steal it from the target of his kill.
Night Action — Thief
If you perform the kill, you may steal an item. You may use this ability twice.
Means he bought one and tried to kill the owner of the other and whoever owns the other auction number/got their ***** stolen should be lock clear?
I don't agree; I think he stole the puzzle box from a buddy to get additional uses of the item stealing, which seems +EV to me.
This is a weird thought. Why would the buddy spend money on the box if they could just steal it with their ability?
You realize Terry bought the gun previously, so either there were multiple steals (which could explain the lack of night kill, actually), or Dota is just bidder 2.
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I’ll say this again, no one (Wuffles apparently) should be popping the potion unless they actually are under threat of lynch, or it’s one day before LyLo. It’s just not optimal play.
is rather have a mechanical clear than a nebulous item floating around
I’ll say this again, no one (Wuffles apparently) should be popping the potion unless they actually are under threat of lynch, or it’s one day before LyLo. It’s just not optimal play.
is rather have a mechanical clear than a nebulous item floating around
Iso suggested that Dota performed the night kill and stole the Puzzle box from a buddy. Meaning the buddy (#2) bought the puzzle box in the auction thread, and Dota stole it from him. Which makes little sense to me because why spend money on an item your team could have for free. Also the Tommy gun was in Dota's possession, and he definitely stole that from Terry.
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Iso suggested that Dota performed the night kill and stole the Puzzle box from a buddy. Meaning the buddy (#2) bought the puzzle box in the auction thread, and Dota stole it from him. Which makes little sense to me because why spend money on an item your team could have for free. Also the Tommy gun was in Dota's possession, and he definitely stole that from Terry.
ohh... nah its more plausible that he stole the gun from terry and voted on the puzzle box himself... would it be a decent asumption to assume that Auction #27 probably isnt scum?
I’ll say this again, no one (Wuffles apparently) should be popping the potion unless they actually are under threat of lynch, or it’s one day before LyLo. It’s just not optimal play.
is rather have a mechanical clear than a nebulous item floating around
Wtf Give cyan MY gun!? I bought it I was targeted for the NK and Dota stole it. Someone must have protected me
Hang on; DoT's ability says that if he performs the kill, he can steal an item. It doesn't specify that he has to steal it from the target of his kill.
Night Action — Thief
If you perform the kill, you may steal an item. You may use this ability twice.
Means he bought one and tried to kill the owner of the other and whoever owns the other auction number/got their ***** stolen should be lock clear?
I don't agree; I think he stole the puzzle box from a buddy to get additional uses of the item stealing, which seems +EV to me.
This is a weird thought. Why would the buddy spend money on the box if they could just steal it with their ability?
You realize Terry bought the gun previously, so either there were multiple steals (which could explain the lack of night kill, actually), or Dota is just bidder 2.
Iso suggested that Dota performed the night kill and stole the Puzzle box from a buddy. Meaning the buddy (#2) bought the puzzle box in the auction thread, and Dota stole it from him. Which makes little sense to me because why spend money on an item your team could have for free. Also the Tommy gun was in Dota's possession, and he definitely stole that from Terry.
Uhh, because his buddy can't just give him the item? I've asked the mods and the only way you can get an item you didn't start the game with is if you buy it in an auction (whether that's a player-created auction or not) or if you get it in a will. Why would DoT use his own money on it if he didn't think there was a risk of him dying? Also, his ability clearly states that he can steal two items when he performs the Nightkill. I don't understand why we're even having this conversation.
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Wtf Give cyan MY gun!? I bought it I was targeted for the NK and Dota stole it. Someone must have protected me
Hang on; DoT's ability says that if he performs the kill, he can steal an item. It doesn't specify that he has to steal it from the target of his kill.
Night Action — Thief
If you perform the kill, you may steal an item. You may use this ability twice.
Means he bought one and tried to kill the owner of the other and whoever owns the other auction number/got their ***** stolen should be lock clear?
I don't agree; I think he stole the puzzle box from a buddy to get additional uses of the item stealing, which seems +EV to me.
This is a weird thought. Why would the buddy spend money on the box if they could just steal it with their ability?
You realize Terry bought the gun previously, so either there were multiple steals (which could explain the lack of night kill, actually), or Dota is just bidder 2.
Iso suggested that Dota performed the night kill and stole the Puzzle box from a buddy. Meaning the buddy (#2) bought the puzzle box in the auction thread, and Dota stole it from him. Which makes little sense to me because why spend money on an item your team could have for free. Also the Tommy gun was in Dota's possession, and he definitely stole that from Terry.
Uhh, because his buddy can't just give him the item? I've asked the mods and the only way you can get an item you didn't start the game with is if you buy it in an auction (whether that's a player-created auction or not) or if you get it in a will. Why would DoT use his own money on it if he didn't think there was a risk of him dying? Also, his ability clearly states that he can steal two items when he performs the Nightkill. I don't understand why we're even having this conversation.
Oh, my bad. I took it to mean he could steal one item whenever he performs a nightkill, twice a game. SOrry
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Grape @Wisp how on earth does what you asked RE or her response remotely clear her (apart from the fact that she was mostly clear alr
Well I know she didnt perform any night actions, and her posts kinda feel like it comes from uniformed town rather then scum buddies with Dota
Ahhh that makes more sense then. Still not something I'd lock in a clear over but makes sense now. Why did you target RE?
Iso’s speculation sounds like the that thing where you have inside info and try to pass it off as your own lol. It’s probably right but also very specific.
I’ll say this again, no one (Wuffles apparently) should be popping the potion unless they actually are under threat of lynch, or it’s one day before LyLo. It’s just not optimal play.
is rather have a mechanical clear than a nebulous item floating around
These are objectively correct thoughts.
you scum read dota? what post was this???
I did list him on the bottom of my t/s list yesterDay but he’d been bugging me from very early on. If KJ turns out to be scum too this game I’ll be ecstatic
Grape @Wisp how on earth does what you asked RE or her response remotely clear her (apart from the fact that she was mostly clear alr
Well I know she didnt perform any night actions, and her posts kinda feel like it comes from uniformed town rather then scum buddies with Dota
Ahhh that makes more sense then. Still not something I'd lock in a clear over but makes sense now. Why did you target RE?
the funny thing, my original target was actually dota xD, but I was looking back at the last minute votes that pushed Vezoks lynch, and I really didnt like RE's vote switch or comments surrounding the vote
I am almost certain Dota bought the puzzle box and is bidder #2, and used both Thief and Heist abilities.
These were his starting items:
Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan
These were his end items:
Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan
Twin Scepters
Puzzle Box
Tommy Gun
Twin Scepters was never available for bid and so he must have used one of his abilities to steal that. And Terry's gun was stolen. Meaning he must have purchased the Puzzle box, because he can't steal 3 items.
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I'm not going to deny that this mechanics talk probably has no use, but it's fun, so.
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Continuing my theme of bad reasons to read people I really want to town read atog for coming in and strutting a bit. I know I shouldn't but I want to.
@Wisp I'll have to reread your EoD but I can buy that reasoning.
cant say I really had much of an EoD, had to much stuff in real life to focus on is, I was happy to leave my vote on Wuffles, and honestly didnt want to place my vote on Vezek, which is probably contrary to what I said in the previous day, something a long the lines of, "I probably move my vote if need be", which was pretty much a lie, because I wasnt planning on particpating in that lynch
The newspaper headline read “Break in at the Auction House!” With a picture of broken windows and smashed exhibits of the auction house underneath. Underneath the picture it read lots 12, 17 and 20 stolen along with some items not yet out for auction. Pictures of the Potions of Speed, Twin Scepters and the Map of Other Worlds in their cases were shown as well with a caption underneath saying “If anyone sees a person in possession of these items please contact the authorities”.
Underneath all of this was another picture of a body and the caption of “Suspect of break in found dead in street”. The body under close examination was revealed to be DotArchon. Who had in his possession Twin Scepters, however if this was the same Twin Scepters as the auction house remains to be seen. Further examination of DotArchon's body showed signs of him being a cultist and a thief. The auction slip for account number 2 was sticking out of his pocket.
Why are we outing auction numbers by saying who beat whom &etc?
DoTA was bidder #2, it's in his flip.
@Lastwhisper: I didn't say you were scum with Gemma, I said one of the two of you is probably scum because I'm townreading everyone else that was off wagon and there's very likely at least one scum off wagon. Unless there's only three scum or something, but I kind of think if there's only three scum the DoTA wagon is just clean, so.
@Tom: I didn't think you were particularly unaligned with Vezok is all. Not that it matters since he was town, but, yeah.
Could whoever said RE was clear explain how RE is clear, exactly? Because if that's legit it's pretty helpful but I didn't quite follow the reasoning. Not sure why Tom is so insistent on there being 2 scum on a five man wagon, because that's... not really a thing. Not even when the wagon is a counterwagon to scum. Like, maybe if you suspect they're intentionally screwing with the wagons, but I don't really think so.
Also the fact he thinks the game is locked with 6 people in his PoE is. Concerning.
I need to reread and I don't have time for that immediately, but here's a thing I did:
Wtf Give cyan MY gun!? I bought it I was targeted for the NK and Dota stole it. Someone must have protected me
ohh so u voted 2 gold too my 4 silver
also its not ur gun anymore, but i guess ur pretty much town too?
Tom
Grapes town read of Dota was just how should I put it, "unnecessary?", like why does it even exist
Grape @Wisp how on earth does what you asked RE or her response remotely clear her (apart from the fact that she was mostly clear alr
Well I know she didnt perform any night actions, and her posts kinda feel like it comes from uniformed town rather then scum buddies with Dota
Not sure why Tom is so insistent on there being 2 scum on a five man wagon, because that's... not really a thing. Not even when the wagon is a counterwagon to scum. Like, maybe if you suspect they're intentionally screwing with the wagons, but I don't really think so.
Also the fact he thinks the game is locked with 6 people in his PoE is. Concerning.
Wtf Give cyan MY gun!? I bought it I was targeted for the NK and Dota stole it. Someone must have protected me
ohh so u voted 2 gold too my 4 silver
also its not ur gun anymore, but i guess ur pretty much town too?
Tom
Grapes town read of Dota was just how should I put it, "unnecessary?", like why does it even exist
Grape @Wisp how on earth does what you asked RE or her response remotely clear her (apart from the fact that she was mostly clear alr
Well I know she didnt perform any night actions, and her posts kinda feel like it comes from uniformed town rather then scum buddies with Dota
Were you told that the gun was stolen?
Actually no I'm not
Find better reads kthxbai
I have the potion and I will drink it whenever.
This has been a wuffles is town psa
@Wisp how on earth does what you asked RE or her response remotely clear her (apart from the fact that she was mostly clear already)?
@Tom it's because I am town and just putting my foot in my mouth a lot.
Hang on; DoT's ability says that if he performs the kill, he can steal an item. It doesn't specify that he has to steal it from the target of his kill.
I don't agree; I think he stole the puzzle box from a buddy to get additional uses of the item stealing, which seems +EV to me.
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I'm down for a Wuffs clear.
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Dota(5) - Cyan, Proph, dawn,vezok, Wufflesvezok(5) - Silver,Dota, Kamikaze, shadow, GrapeKilljoy (3) - JoeTerry, RE1031, Rhand
Proph (2) - togs, Killjoy
Wuffles (2) - tom, Last
Silver (1) - Iso
Not voting: Gemma
plow through oranges imo
also its not ur gun anymore, but i guess ur pretty much town too?
Tom
Grapes town read of Dota was just how should I put it, "unnecessary?", like why does it even exist
Grape
@Wisp how on earth does what you asked RE or her response remotely clear her (apart from the fact that she was mostly clear alr
Well I know she didnt perform any night actions, and her posts kinda feel like it comes from uniformed town rather then scum buddies with Dota
also down for a wuffles clear
Vote Tommy gun: Terry
You realize Terry bought the gun previously, so either there were multiple steals (which could explain the lack of night kill, actually), or Dota is just bidder 2.
Can you explain what you mean in #1636?
These are objectively correct thoughts.
Did Iso really say that? lol
I don't agree.
Uhh, because his buddy can't just give him the item? I've asked the mods and the only way you can get an item you didn't start the game with is if you buy it in an auction (whether that's a player-created auction or not) or if you get it in a will. Why would DoT use his own money on it if he didn't think there was a risk of him dying? Also, his ability clearly states that he can steal two items when he performs the Nightkill. I don't understand why we're even having this conversation.
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Ahhh that makes more sense then. Still not something I'd lock in a clear over but makes sense now. Why did you target RE?
I did list him on the bottom of my t/s list yesterDay but he’d been bugging me from very early on. If KJ turns out to be scum too this game I’ll be ecstatic
These were his starting items:
Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan
These were his end items:
Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan
Twin Scepters
Puzzle Box
Tommy Gun
Twin Scepters was never available for bid and so he must have used one of his abilities to steal that. And Terry's gun was stolen. Meaning he must have purchased the Puzzle box, because he can't steal 3 items.
...
I'm not going to deny that this mechanics talk probably has no use, but it's fun, so.
@Wisp I'll have to reread your EoD but I can buy that reasoning.
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any chance I could get the puzzle box?
It is also an augment to the kill and only targets the kill target.
And that's why you read flavor
Ok cool
DoTA was bidder #2, it's in his flip.
@Lastwhisper: I didn't say you were scum with Gemma, I said one of the two of you is probably scum because I'm townreading everyone else that was off wagon and there's very likely at least one scum off wagon. Unless there's only three scum or something, but I kind of think if there's only three scum the DoTA wagon is just clean, so.
@Tom: I didn't think you were particularly unaligned with Vezok is all. Not that it matters since he was town, but, yeah.
Could whoever said RE was clear explain how RE is clear, exactly? Because if that's legit it's pretty helpful but I didn't quite follow the reasoning.
Not sure why Tom is so insistent on there being 2 scum on a five man wagon, because that's... not really a thing. Not even when the wagon is a counterwagon to scum. Like, maybe if you suspect they're intentionally screwing with the wagons, but I don't really think so.
Also the fact he thinks the game is locked with 6 people in his PoE is. Concerning.
I need to reread and I don't have time for that immediately, but here's a thing I did:
DoTArchon (5) - Cyan, Prophylaxis, dawningbluesky, vezokpiraka, Wuffles_II
vezokpiraka (5) - Silvercrys3467, DoTArchon, KamikazeArchon, shadowlancerx, Grapefruit21
Killjoy (3) - TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, RE1031, Rhand
Prophylaxis (2) - Atogaholic, Killjoy
Wuffles_II (2) - tomsloger, Lastwhisper
Silvercrys3467 (1) - Iso
Not voting: Gemma
vezokpiraka (10) - Silvercrys3467, DoTArchon, KamikazeArchon, shadowlancerx, Grapefruit21, Killjoy, Prophylaxis, tomsloger, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, RE1031
DoTArchon (4) - Cyan, dawningbluesky, vezokpiraka, Wuffles_II
Killjoy (1) - Rhand
Wuffles_II (1) - Lastwhisper
Prophylaxis (1) - Atogaholic
Silvercrys3467 (1) - Iso
Not voting: Gemma
Silvercrys3467
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Iso / Prophylaxis / Grapefruit21 / Cyan
Rhand / KamikazeArchon / shadowlancerx / Atogaholic
tomsloger / dawningbluesky / Lastwhisper / RE1031 / Wuffles_II / Gemma / Killjoy
1 in [killjoy / tomsloger / RE1031], 1 in [Dawningbluesky / Wuffles_II], 1 in [Lastwhisper / Gemma] if the scum team is the standard 4.
If Wuffles /is/ town and drinks the potion, it's either DBS, or the DoTA wagon is completely clean and there's a scum in my town reads.
So... yeah, I vote Wuffles drinks it.
Vote Tommy Gun: Cyan
I really don't know why there were so many people who just straight up didn't read the flip but it's kind of ???
Ok lets put ur theory to the test shall we, vote: Gemma.