Preliminary analysis suggests there's one in [Dawning/Wuffles] and 1 in [Lastwhisper/Gemma] regardless of Vezok's alignment. Chance of Cyan in Dawning/Wuffles and chance of Atog in Last/Gemma but I don't really think so.
If he's scum, on-wagon is something like 1 in [Killjoy/DoTA] + 1 in [Grapefruit/tom/re].
If he's somehow town, it should be like, 1 in [Killjoy/DoTA] + 1 in [shadow/tom/re].
If I'm not here tomorrow, you should scrutinize those off wagon pairings first.
My most reads list stands with the caveat that if Vezok is town it almost certainly isn't Grapefruit.
Preliminary analysis suggests there's one in [Dawning/Wuffles] and 1 in [Lastwhisper/Gemma] regardless of Vezok's alignment. Chance of Cyan in Dawning/Wuffles and chance of Atog in Last/Gemma but I don't really think so.
Gemma's unvote was kind of scummy I thought.
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“You're guilty” screamed the mob at vezokpiraka. “I'm not, I just want to collect these amazing items” Vezokpiraka replied. After countless attacks vezokpiraka's will started to fail and he screamed at them. “Fine I'll prove my innocence as he put his own neck in the noose.” Suddenly another member pulled the lever and vezokpiraka fell and broke his neck immediately.
vezokpiraka AKA Harvey Walters, the Town Collector has been lynched.
After his death a lawyer came by and read his will outloud.
Send all the gold to terry.
Bandages and Camilla''s Ruby to Cyan.
vezokpiraka also owned 4 silver which he did not specify in his will where it should go. The state will take possession and the mob may divide the silver as they wish in the morning.
You are Harvey Walters, the Town Collector.
Harvey was a visiting Professor at Miskatonic University. With doctorates in history, archaeology, and shamanism, one could say he was quite interested in the occult and arcane arts. He had made it a priority to acquire new items for his research and had even purchased a vault to keep those items safe from those who would steal them.
Abilities
Passive — Vault Has a vault to store 4 items, money and will. You may choose to permanently lock an item in this vault.
Any-Time Action — Analyze Once per game, at any time, you may determine the original owner of an item you have in your possession.
Items
Bandages Night Action — Target player gains 1 sanity. If that player would be killed this night, prevent it. If a kill is prevented this way, that player will die during the next night unless you visit them again. This ability uses 1 Charge.
Starting Charges: 3
Camilla's Ruby Night Action — Lose 1 Sanity. Target player gains 1 Sanity.
Day One has ended. Night One will last until 6 PM PST Monday the 23rd.
I have decided to give some extreme warnings to a couple of slots instead of mod kills. These slots have an extremely low threshold for being mod killed.
The newspaper headline read “Break in at the Auction House!” With a picture of broken windows and smashed exhibits of the auction house underneath. Underneath the picture it read lots 12, 17 and 20 stolen along with some items not yet out for auction. Pictures of the Potions of Speed, Twin Scepters and the Map of Other Worlds in their cases were shown as well with a caption underneath saying “If anyone sees a person in possession of these items please contact the authorities”.
Underneath all of this was another picture of a body and the caption of “Suspect of break in found dead in street”. The body under close examination was revealed to be DotArchon. Who had in his possession Twin Scepters, however if this was the same Twin Scepters as the auction house remains to be seen. Further examination of DotArchon's body showed signs of him being a cultist and a thief. The auction slip for account number 2 was sticking out of his pocket.
DotArchon has been killed by gunshot.
You are "Skids" O'Toole, the Mafia Thief — Tsathoggua.
Money. It was just that simple for Skids. Money was power. And the Old Gods seemed to promise him all the money he could ever want. Women, power, whatever he wanted would be his. He would be a king. Who in their right mind would say no to that. Plus he got to shake a few people down while setting this thing off, and that was just plain fun.
Abilities
Night Action — Thief
If you perform the kill, you may steal an item. You may use this ability twice.
If you can name the item then you may steal that specific item. If it does not exist you will steal a random item instead.
Night Action — Heist
Once per game, you may conduct a heist. Any number of your fellow Scum members can participate in the heist. Each player will steal an item from the Auction House at random. This is the only Night action for players that participate.
Day Action — Shady Connections
Once per game, you may sell an item anonymously.
Items
Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan
Any-Time Action — Can be sold to a collector after Day 3 for 2 Gold.
Starting Silver: 9 Starting Sanity: 1
Auction Number: 2
DotArchon did not have a will the following items and currency need to be distributed.
Items Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan
Any-Time Action — Can be sold to a collector after Day 3 for 2 Gold.
Twin Scepters
Day Action — Target player's abilities and item uses go to the bottom of priority during the next night.
Puzzle Box
Passive — You may use an additional ability or item each night. You go insane at 1 higher Sanity as long as you are holding this item.
Tommy Gun
Day Action — Kill target player. Consumed on use.
Currency Silver: 5
Additionally vezokpiraka had 4 silver to distribute.
There is currently a total of 9 Silver to be distributed
Day 2 Starts now and ends May 7 at 6 PM
With 17 players alive it takes 9 to lynch
We vote someone to get the Tommy Gun, they use it on a person we all think is scum, then we lynch regularly for the Day?
Does that even work?
OHH, for some reason I thought the tommy gun killed Dota... so he was the one who took the tommy gun from me... not like I was gunna ever beat him with his 9 silver...
so I guess a vig or some sort killed Dota? and someone stopped the mafia night kill?
My reservations with killjoy is that, would both killjoy + DoTA go "hey let's just push this mislynch through even though we're both lurking"? Surely scum killjoy plays better than that, right?
I'll look at DoTA's posts when I finish eating and see if I can figure some stuff out.
I guess it's a good thing scum are disorganized enough to not have a will after buying a dayvig
I feel like it's more indicative of anti-spew than disorganization. Having to dole out items when all can see your red flips sounds like a horrible exercise in predicting wine.
If a player does not have a will, or fails to update it for an item or increase in cash, then any extra loot will be divided up as players see fit. Players will vote on who gets which items or extra cash. This voting process will end the same time as the voting for auction house items ends if a majority is not reached, at which point the player with the highest votes will gain the item. If two players or more are tied, then it will be randomly decided between those players.
This means the currency and items will be distributed in 3 days.
If nobody is chosen for an item it will be randomly distributed.
Also I'm executively deciding that any currency amounts can not be divided into groupings of one for my own sanity today.
So you guys can break the silver up however you want to. Be warned if its scattered it will probabally be randomly distributed as 9 silver grouped.
KamikazeArchon will confirm my ability's existence.
Also, given how against the DoT wagon Cyan was in the 11th hour despite him being obvscum towards the end, I don't trust Cyan with the Tommy Gun. I'd much rather Kamikaze have it because he's likely to be who the scum targeted for the kill last Night.
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We vote someone to get the Tommy Gun, they use it on a person we all think is scum, then we lynch regularly for the Day?
Does that even work?
OHH, for some reason I thought the tommy gun killed Dota... so he was the one who took the tommy gun from me... not like I was gunna ever beat him with his 9 silver...
so I guess a vig or some sort killed Dota? and someone stopped the mafia night kill?
If you observe the auction numbers, you'll know that Dota used his steal ability last night. Among Dota's items is the Puzzle Box, which was bid on by number 2. Yet he has an item that should belong to number 32.
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DotArchon has been killed by gunshot gg whoever had the gun
RE
Did you do something last night?
No, why?
Also, isn't the Tommy Gun a day ability? Whoever shot DotArchon was probably the vig, or maybe even a paranoid gun owner.
What makes you jump to pgo?
The lack of a night kill. I know for certain that DotA performed the night kill. Well, I suppose it could be a coincidence and doctor is a more common role than PGO.
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I take it back RE is most likely town haha
TBH I saw that he was scum thief, and died, didnt even think to check his auction number, I guess he wasnt the person who out bid me
and Cyan seems ok, like he was the one to start the Dota Train up, would scum really buss that hard???
RE
well I know u didnt perform the night kill lol... hmm why u say dota probably did the night kill?
@Terry I claimed part of my role; that I can destroy items in my possession.
I'm trying to figure out my personal read on Wisp as a player. I find his interaction with Silver to be very scummy along the lines Silver describes, and I just can't figure out my line for how scummy town!wisp naturally is.
So Dota has been a complete and utter lurker. No doubts about that. But I had an existing town read on him, and with a mini wagon popping up I decided to look back at it.
86 is his first big post and serves as a catch up post. And I really like it. Catch up posts are easier to fake, but it's touching on the right stuff. He goes into all the mechanical posts Vezok and I were making but doesn't get bogged down in the mechanics themselves. His poking at Shin for flipping his stance so quickly is a good look as is his poking at me for being strongly against a D1 AH claim but for a D3 one and my not being married to it. I don't love that he's focused on the minute wording of my post (he latches onto me referring to an organized team as a scum slip) which feels nitpicky and forced, but not overly alarming. Also like his question about Terry only targeting one player who was speculating about items.
His 91 is less great. It's very focused on minutiae. His linguistics tell on me feels forced while his questions around my proposed timeline feel a bit better they don't feel as helpful to solving.
238 is another big catchup post. It's also not bad. His questions to me about my mechanical plans suggest he's interested in them, and interested in solving. I don't feel scum would be trying to lynch me for using the threat of a mass AH claim as a cudgel to get people to follow through, and while he seems to have missed part of the point that is what he's engaging with me over at the start of the post. I think town Dota would have a harder time reconciling my stance of wanting a mass claim regardless but also wielding it as a threat. Scum!Dota strikes me as more likely to be aware a mass claim being used against him. And his stance of trying to solve me by figuring out why I'm focused on items is a fair one. Also now that the idea of things being acquired in non traditional ways is soft confirmed by Vezok's claim this looks like a solid town tell to me:
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As for the logs, yes that would be terrifying. That's why it should never go for auction in a traditional way. It's not like we're obligated to vote for it.
What?
And that is his last real post. His naked bandwagon onto Vezok is very very meh, but it's not enough for me to vote him on it's own. If it's truthful and he is caught up then it's a good vote and if it's scum trying to blend in then he's very likely to be lynched tomorrow. Either way Vezok's flip tells a lot about Dota's alignment. In a more general sense I certainly don't see shade in his ISO. I don't see much in general. But I like his particular mechanical focus, because it's not him theorycrafting it's him trying to nail down a specific stance. Which is a good look.
He does focus on the auction house but he barely touches on specific items. If we want to lynch a lurker I much prefer lynching KJ to Dota.
I don't hate this as much as I feel like I should Maybe?
He's not forcing this read idk looking at both sides or whatever
I guess it could be distancing with that but it really looks like he went in with a townread he wanted to explain and just sorta looked with no agenda of actually defending him
Best I can get out of dota posts is vezok should have been clear, he talked to rhand and iso like town he was trying to convince, and his early grape push was probably not a bus
I take it back RE is most likely town haha
TBH I saw that he was scum thief, and died, didnt even think to check his auction number, I guess he wasnt the person who out bid me
and Cyan seems ok, like he was the one to start the Dota Train up, would scum really buss that hard???
RE
well I know u didnt perform the night kill lol... hmm why u say dota probably did the night kill?
Because I thought he used his first ability to steal something while performing the night kill. I didn't realize he had another ability that could allow his entire team to steal something random from the auction house. Though I don't know if that means the non-sold items or all items in the game.
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Wtf Give cyan MY gun!? I bought it I was targeted for the NK and Dota stole it. Someone must have protected me
nice ninja
That's too bad would have preferred someone that wasnt already clear...
Was hoping for soft confirmation they had some ability that finds who bought something but you might have just been a nightkill and they (almost) got lucky with it
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If he's scum, on-wagon is something like 1 in [Killjoy/DoTA] + 1 in [Grapefruit/tom/re].
If he's somehow town, it should be like, 1 in [Killjoy/DoTA] + 1 in [shadow/tom/re].
If I'm not here tomorrow, you should scrutinize those off wagon pairings first.
My most reads list stands with the caveat that if Vezok is town it almost certainly isn't Grapefruit.
Gemma's unvote was kind of scummy I thought.
DoTArchon (4) - Cyan, dawningbluesky, vezokpiraka, Wuffles_II
Killjoy (1) - Rhand
Wuffles_II (1) - Lastwhisper
Prophylaxis (1) - Atogaholic
Silvercrys3467 (1) - Iso
Not voting: Gemma
“You're guilty” screamed the mob at vezokpiraka. “I'm not, I just want to collect these amazing items” Vezokpiraka replied. After countless attacks vezokpiraka's will started to fail and he screamed at them. “Fine I'll prove my innocence as he put his own neck in the noose.” Suddenly another member pulled the lever and vezokpiraka fell and broke his neck immediately.
vezokpiraka AKA Harvey Walters, the Town Collector has been lynched.
After his death a lawyer came by and read his will outloud.
Send all the gold to terry.
Bandages and Camilla''s Ruby to Cyan.
vezokpiraka also owned 4 silver which he did not specify in his will where it should go. The state will take possession and the mob may divide the silver as they wish in the morning.
You are Harvey Walters, the Town Collector.
Harvey was a visiting Professor at Miskatonic University. With doctorates in history, archaeology, and shamanism, one could say he was quite interested in the occult and arcane arts. He had made it a priority to acquire new items for his research and had even purchased a vault to keep those items safe from those who would steal them.
Abilities
Passive — Vault
Has a vault to store 4 items, money and will. You may choose to permanently lock an item in this vault.
Any-Time Action — Analyze
Once per game, at any time, you may determine the original owner of an item you have in your possession.
Items
Bandages
Night Action — Target player gains 1 sanity. If that player would be killed this night, prevent it. If a kill is prevented this way, that player will die during the next night unless you visit them again. This ability uses 1 Charge.
Starting Charges: 3
Camilla's Ruby
Night Action — Lose 1 Sanity. Target player gains 1 Sanity.
Starting Gold: 2
Starting Silver: 4
Starting Sanity: 1
Auction Number: 4
Day One has ended. Night One will last until 6 PM PST Monday the 23rd.
I have decided to give some extreme warnings to a couple of slots instead of mod kills. These slots have an extremely low threshold for being mod killed.
Underneath all of this was another picture of a body and the caption of “Suspect of break in found dead in street”. The body under close examination was revealed to be DotArchon. Who had in his possession Twin Scepters, however if this was the same Twin Scepters as the auction house remains to be seen. Further examination of DotArchon's body showed signs of him being a cultist and a thief. The auction slip for account number 2 was sticking out of his pocket.
DotArchon has been killed by gunshot.
Money. It was just that simple for Skids. Money was power. And the Old Gods seemed to promise him all the money he could ever want. Women, power, whatever he wanted would be his. He would be a king. Who in their right mind would say no to that. Plus he got to shake a few people down while setting this thing off, and that was just plain fun.
Abilities
Night Action — Thief
If you perform the kill, you may steal an item. You may use this ability twice.
If you can name the item then you may steal that specific item. If it does not exist you will steal a random item instead.
Night Action — Heist
Once per game, you may conduct a heist. Any number of your fellow Scum members can participate in the heist. Each player will steal an item from the Auction House at random. This is the only Night action for players that participate.
Day Action — Shady Connections
Once per game, you may sell an item anonymously.
Items
Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan
Any-Time Action — Can be sold to a collector after Day 3 for 2 Gold.
Starting Silver: 9
Starting Sanity: 1
Auction Number: 2
DotArchon did not have a will the following items and currency need to be distributed.
Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan
Any-Time Action — Can be sold to a collector after Day 3 for 2 Gold.
Twin Scepters
Day Action — Target player's abilities and item uses go to the bottom of priority during the next night.
Puzzle Box
Passive — You may use an additional ability or item each night. You go insane at 1 higher Sanity as long as you are holding this item.
Tommy Gun
Day Action — Kill target player. Consumed on use.
Currency
Silver: 5
Additionally vezokpiraka had 4 silver to distribute.
There is currently a total of 9 Silver to be distributed
With 17 players alive it takes 9 to lynch
RE
Did you do something last night?
Going to reread in a bit but pretty sure that Cyan/dawning are town and that multiple scum are on the vezok wagon.
Essentially we have two lynches today if I'm reading this right?
Does that even work?
so I guess a vig or some sort killed Dota? and someone stopped the mafia night kill?
Who do you think are DoTA's buddies?
DoTArchon (5) - Cyan, Prophylaxis, dawningbluesky, vezokpiraka, Wuffles_II
vezokpiraka (5) - Silvercrys3467, DoTArchon, KamikazeArchon, shadowlancerx, Grapefruit21
Killjoy (3) - TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, RE1031, Rhand
Prophylaxis (2) - Atogaholic, Killjoy
Wuffles_II (2) - tomsloger, Lastwhisper
Silvercrys3467 (1) - Iso
Not voting: Gemma
Then KJ>proph>me>Joe>re moved to vezok to secure lynch
Could def be one of dota's buddies on vezok with him shadow>grape>silver>>>Kami
Maybe one joined at the end? Find it pretty unlikely unless it's killjoy.
Which... kj wagon looks pretty clean
If anyone is bussing dota here it's wuffles but idk how much of that is conf bias
Minimum 1 in the offwagon
Kj/togs/gemma/large gap/last/iso
Kinda want to focus there?
Or the vezok wagon...
I want to lynch wuffles but not today
I'll look at DoTA's posts when I finish eating and see if I can figure some stuff out.
I think spreading the silver out in parcels of 3 is the best bet. Something like 3 to Terry, RE, and Kami strike me as good options
I guess it's a good thing scum are disorganized enough to not have a will after buying a dayvig
I feel like it's more indicative of anti-spew than disorganization. Having to dole out items when all can see your red flips sounds like a horrible exercise in predicting wine.
Does anyone need the puzzle box?
This means the currency and items will be distributed in 3 days.
If nobody is chosen for an item it will be randomly distributed.
Also I'm executively deciding that any currency amounts can not be divided into groupings of one for my own sanity today.
So you guys can break the silver up however you want to. Be warned if its scattered it will probabally be randomly distributed as 9 silver grouped.
Also, isn't the Tommy Gun a day ability? Whoever shot DotArchon was probably the vig, or maybe even a paranoid gun owner.
Vote Tommy Gun: Cyan
KamikazeArchon will confirm my ability's existence.
Also, given how against the DoT wagon Cyan was in the 11th hour despite him being obvscum towards the end, I don't trust Cyan with the Tommy Gun. I'd much rather Kamikaze have it because he's likely to be who the scum targeted for the kill last Night.
I want Silver dead by the end of toDay.
Vote for KamikazeArchon to have the Tommy Gun
Vote for Iso to have the remaining silver
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Kj is a good info shot but idk if I think he's scum
and ya I came to realize that in my post to Proph, u still arent clear... but at least you didnt lie *shrug*
Vote: Tommy Gun -> Cyan
I didn't read the rest of his abilities.
TBH I saw that he was scum thief, and died, didnt even think to check his auction number, I guess he wasnt the person who out bid me
and Cyan seems ok, like he was the one to start the Dota Train up, would scum really buss that hard???
RE
well I know u didnt perform the night kill lol... hmm why u say dota probably did the night kill?
I know for certain Why?
I don't hate this as much as I feel like I should Maybe?
He's not forcing this read idk looking at both sides or whatever
I guess it could be distancing with that but it really looks like he went in with a townread he wanted to explain and just sorta looked with no agenda of actually defending him
Means he bought one and tried to kill the owner of the other and whoever owns the other auction number/got their ***** stolen should be lock clear?
That's too bad would have preferred someone that wasnt already clear...
Was hoping for soft confirmation they had some ability that finds who bought something but you might have just been a nightkill and they (almost) got lucky with it
scumsomeone wants to CC his bidder number