Oh that's a good point. I don't think it would lock on the win for him at 3 alive if he's scum, but it would be a dumb race for both people alive to vote him before he votes anyone.
Rhand, I think you should give up the Headdress. If I have that and get a dose of holy water, I should be able to single handedly win for the town.
@rhand thanks for the holy water splash my dude, you're the best.
Well, second best after grape. RIP, fren.
Tom I get it dude you're doing what you can but it's over, town has this locked in. Cyan and I are guaranteed to survive the night with me getting the eyes. Though, if on the not technically zero but totally zero chance that Tom flips town, cyan, be careful about shooting RE unless you're 100% on being able to stay alive. Tom dies today, RE dies overnight, and we lynch rhand if the game is still going.
I think that the only action that exists that is ahead of the Mask that I would have to be concerned about is your Mark, which you won't be able to use if you use the Eyes, so.
Like if you're scum here and a GF ability worked with an item then oh well. I don't know how we would have ever gotten past that. But even then, if I have the Headdress, I should be okay as long as I get a dose of Holy Water today or tomorrow. Which reminds me, please let me buy the one that is going up today.
Who knows what the last scum could have up their sleeves, but...shrug. There is nothing for that now.
I can give up both the headdress and the plant if you want. I have more sanity than I can ever need lol.
@RE: I kept it secret because there was no need to out it. If scum knew that I had more than one shot, they would throw shenanigans at me on odd Nights.
And my clear on Cyan would’ve made him a bigger NK target too, because that takes away the SK-mislynch.
Rookie means odd Nights only.
I don't think you need to sell the Plant. I can buy the Headdress and Holy Water for 1G each and be okay. Well lynch Tom, I'll use the Mark to protect myself, and use the Orb to investigate Rhand, Vig RE tonight and take whatever money he has and use that to buy another Holy Water tomorrow just in case and that should be good. Since the Mask will make me untargetable, there shouldn't be any way for the scum to affect my Sanity, but I should be fine anyway unless they can somehow take a huge amount of Sanity from me).If we could vote Grapes 2 Silver to me.thst would also help though. Vote 2 Silver to Cyan
My favorite part about all of this is that Im 99.5% sure Tom is going to flip scum and the game will end, making all of this planning wildly unnecessary, but like...we still have to do it. :/. Oh well it should just take like another 24 hours to have it all wrapped up.
Yeah you definitely would have. It's alright. I think that the scum would have won this game ultimately if we didn't catch 2 of them in the first night. It was a swingy setup that we got the benefit of early. But even so, we've caught scum almost every day, are probably 2 votes away from winning, and still it feels uncomfortable.
I was incredibly close to just shooting Tom last night, and had a whole paragraph about it in my Night Action submission to DV, heh. Ultimately I didn't want to come into today with only 4 alive because that would be lynch or lose for sure, so I figured waiting was better.
It just has to be tom. There’s no way he went to otherworld by targeting me because then you would’ve been in too. And I was roleblocked, which has to be done by scum.
So unless RE can roleblock me AND redirect tom to you (why would he even do that?), the only plausible explanation for last Night is that tom targeted me and you. Ergo he lied and is scum.
I think tom’s idea was that you and RE would be dead, waking us up with Grape / Wuffles / tom / me, and then he would’ve pushed a Grape lynch.
It seemed like you were going to shoot RE, and the fact that I was roleblocked and not you pretty much clears RE.
I think you're probably misunderstanding about being RBed, but we probably won't figure that out until the end game. It's just hard to see the scum having another RB ability.
As soon as Cantrip flipped, I completely changed my mind re: RE. Cantrip was basically the scum role that I thought RE might have, and I can't imagine that the scum have 2 roles that revolve around the AH(and it's very clear that RE and Shin were being truthful about knowing Terry's auction identity, so).
And yeah, I agree re: Tom, but we still need to cover our bases just in case. I already PMed DV to let him know that I want to sell the Eye so Wuffles can buy it, and we really shouldn't move on with the day until he has put a bid on that and I have put one on the Headdress and Holy Water.
I'm sad that we didn't get to see what more of the AH items were. So many of them sound really intriguing.
Yeah I get what y'all are saying I wouldn't believe me either lol.
Hopefully cyan saving his shot keeps this winnable but who knows what wuffles has going on
Yeah I get what y'all are saying I wouldn't believe me either lol.
Hopefully cyan saving his shot keeps this winnable but who knows what wuffles has going on
nice post. Says nothing.
To answer your question about who knows what wuffles has going on - Everyone. Everyone knows. I'm mod-confirmed and nothing I have done this game has been done for any reason other than to profit the town (and protect the towniest townies). And occasionally to yell profanity at Cyan :p. You know, the usual.
The doll chant just rescues anyone who dies from sanity loss and is consumed in the process. Doesn’t matter who owns it.
Wuffles should buy the eye, right? We should throw a lot of money towards that in case RE is scum.
Yeah that is 100% the current plan. Unless RE can also bid anonymously(seems awfully unlikely), we would know the moment he tried to buy it. I don't think we have to worry about any shenanigans there. Wuffles is already voting Tom, so I think no one else should vote until Wuffles has placed his bid on the Eyes, and then we can coordinate the last 2 votes to make sure that there are no outbidding shenanigans.
I think you're probably misunderstanding about being RBed, but we probably won't figure that out until the end game. It's just hard to see the scum having another RB ability.
Why would this be difficult to imagine? The only roleblock ability seen on the scum team so far was Proph's staff, and it was one-shot (and incorporated a back-up). Proph and Cantrip both had redirection abilities (ability for one and item for the other), and Cantrip's anonymous bidding was not all that different from Dota's heist ability. So there appears to be a lot of overlapping abilities.
If there's a misunderstanding, then that should be cleared up, right?
Because if Tom was indeed sent to the otherworld by targeting Cyan for the kill and Rhand with some kind of roleblock, why did the kill fail and roleblock succeed? And if Rhand was the target instead (and the bandages are the reason for the no night kill), why bother messing with his results?
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I think you're probably misunderstanding about being RBed, but we probably won't figure that out until the end game. It's just hard to see the scum having another RB ability.
Why would this be difficult to imagine? The only roleblock ability seen on the scum team so far was Proph's staff, and it was one-shot (and incorporated a back-up). Proph and Cantrip both had redirection abilities (ability for one and item for the other), and Cantrip's anonymous bidding was not all that different from Dota's heist ability. So there appears to be a lot of overlapping abilities.
If there's a misunderstanding, then that should be cleared up, right?
Because if Tom was indeed sent to the otherworld by targeting Cyan for the kill and Rhand with some kind of roleblock, why did the kill fail and roleblock succeed? And if Rhand was the target instead (and the bandages are the reason for the no night kill), why bother messing with his results?
Maybe you're right. I suppose we'll find out soon enough anyway.
Actually, Rhand is probably town. I don't think I have a reason to be worried. I was thinking an SK with a one-shot cop check but I completely neglected the fact Rhand claimed day 2 which without more knowledge of the set up could have put him at risk for a counterclaim.
My order: Tom > Wuffles = Rhand > Cyan
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Avenues of limitless night seemed to radiate in every direction, till one might fancy that here lay the root of a contagion destined to sicken and swallow cities, and engulf nations in the foetor of hybrid pestilence. Here cosmic sin had entered, and festered by unhallowed rites had commenced the grinning march of death that was to rot us all to fungous abnormalities too hideous for the grave’s holding. Satan here held his Babylonish court, and in the blood of stainless childhood the leprous limbs of phosphorescent Lilith were laved. Incubi and succubae howled praise to Hecate, and headless moon-calves bleated to the Magna Mater. Goats leaped to the sound of thin accursed flutes, and aegipans chased endlessly after misshapen fauns over rocks twisted like swollen toads. Moloch and Ashtaroth were not absent; for in this quintessence of all damnation the bounds of consciousness were let down, and man’s fancy lay open to vistas of every realm of horror and every forbidden dimension that evil had power to mould. The world and Nature were helpless against such assaults from unsealed wells of night, nor could any sign or prayer check the Walpurgis-riot of horror which had come when a sage with the hateful key had stumbled on a horde with the locked and brimming coffer of transmitted daemon-lore.
Not voting RE1031,Cyan, Wuffles_II , Tomsloger, Rhand
Day 6 ends Monday the 18th at 4pm PST.
With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
But I wouldn't believe that without my flip so...
Kinda wanna just figure out if there's a way for this not to be game over mechanically. we have a lot of stuff
Rhand, I think you should give up the Headdress. If I have that and get a dose of holy water, I should be able to single handedly win for the town.
Well, second best after grape. RIP, fren.
Tom I get it dude you're doing what you can but it's over, town has this locked in. Cyan and I are guaranteed to survive the night with me getting the eyes. Though, if on the not technically zero but totally zero chance that Tom flips town, cyan, be careful about shooting RE unless you're 100% on being able to stay alive. Tom dies today, RE dies overnight, and we lynch rhand if the game is still going.
Like if you're scum here and a GF ability worked with an item then oh well. I don't know how we would have ever gotten past that. But even then, if I have the Headdress, I should be okay as long as I get a dose of Holy Water today or tomorrow. Which reminds me, please let me buy the one that is going up today.
Who knows what the last scum could have up their sleeves, but...shrug. There is nothing for that now.
@RE: I kept it secret because there was no need to out it. If scum knew that I had more than one shot, they would throw shenanigans at me on odd Nights.
And my clear on Cyan would’ve made him a bigger NK target too, because that takes away the SK-mislynch.
Rookie means odd Nights only.
I don't think you need to sell the Plant. I can buy the Headdress and Holy Water for 1G each and be okay. Well lynch Tom, I'll use the Mark to protect myself, and use the Orb to investigate Rhand, Vig RE tonight and take whatever money he has and use that to buy another Holy Water tomorrow just in case and that should be good. Since the Mask will make me untargetable, there shouldn't be any way for the scum to affect my Sanity, but I should be fine anyway unless they can somehow take a huge amount of Sanity from me).If we could vote Grapes 2 Silver to me.thst would also help though. Vote 2 Silver to Cyan
My favorite part about all of this is that Im 99.5% sure Tom is going to flip scum and the game will end, making all of this planning wildly unnecessary, but like...we still have to do it. :/. Oh well it should just take like another 24 hours to have it all wrapped up.
I almost investigated tom N3 but changed my mind to you.
I probably would’ve solved the game right there and then lol.
So unless RE can roleblock me AND redirect tom to you (why would he even do that?), the only plausible explanation for last Night is that tom targeted me and you. Ergo he lied and is scum.
It seemed like you were going to shoot RE, and the fact that I was roleblocked and not you pretty much clears RE.
As soon as Cantrip flipped, I completely changed my mind re: RE. Cantrip was basically the scum role that I thought RE might have, and I can't imagine that the scum have 2 roles that revolve around the AH(and it's very clear that RE and Shin were being truthful about knowing Terry's auction identity, so).
And yeah, I agree re: Tom, but we still need to cover our bases just in case. I already PMed DV to let him know that I want to sell the Eye so Wuffles can buy it, and we really shouldn't move on with the day until he has put a bid on that and I have put one on the Headdress and Holy Water.
I'm sad that we didn't get to see what more of the AH items were. So many of them sound really intriguing.
I don’t know what happened to me last Night, but both my cop check and my telescope failed.
/yawn
Hopefully cyan saving his shot keeps this winnable but who knows what wuffles has going on
To answer your question about who knows what wuffles has going on - Everyone. Everyone knows. I'm mod-confirmed and nothing I have done this game has been done for any reason other than to profit the town (and protect the towniest townies). And occasionally to yell profanity at Cyan :p. You know, the usual.
Good luck tonight
I'mma buy the Fires, Dhol Chant, Holy Water, and Headdress. I should be set for the rest of the game then.
Wuffles should buy the eye, right? We should throw a lot of money towards that in case RE is scum.
Why would this be difficult to imagine? The only roleblock ability seen on the scum team so far was Proph's staff, and it was one-shot (and incorporated a back-up). Proph and Cantrip both had redirection abilities (ability for one and item for the other), and Cantrip's anonymous bidding was not all that different from Dota's heist ability. So there appears to be a lot of overlapping abilities.
If there's a misunderstanding, then that should be cleared up, right?
Because if Tom was indeed sent to the otherworld by targeting Cyan for the kill and Rhand with some kind of roleblock, why did the kill fail and roleblock succeed? And if Rhand was the target instead (and the bandages are the reason for the no night kill), why bother messing with his results?
Maybe you're right. I suppose we'll find out soon enough anyway.
If rhand dies with me shoot wuffles
If not... Idk I guess but probably same
We lynch you today, cyan shoots RE tonight, and if we are still in game tomorrow then we murder rhand. Period.
I'll put a bid on the orcshun house tonight when I get home because **** logging into #15 on mobile.
@cyan you read that post and realize he knows I'm flipping town, yeah?
Almost definitely just wuffles though
My order: Tom > Wuffles = Rhand > Cyan
The reason to red check a buddy would be the town cred of course and for a heist alibi but he got tracked to shadow
He'd have to be, like, scum motivator or something. And that might not even work...
More importantly I think rhand being the nightkill is the only thing that makes sense other than cyan SK and no mafia left
Avenues of limitless night seemed to radiate in every direction, till one might fancy that here lay the root of a contagion destined to sicken and swallow cities, and engulf nations in the foetor of hybrid pestilence. Here cosmic sin had entered, and festered by unhallowed rites had commenced the grinning march of death that was to rot us all to fungous abnormalities too hideous for the grave’s holding. Satan here held his Babylonish court, and in the blood of stainless childhood the leprous limbs of phosphorescent Lilith were laved. Incubi and succubae howled praise to Hecate, and headless moon-calves bleated to the Magna Mater. Goats leaped to the sound of thin accursed flutes, and aegipans chased endlessly after misshapen fauns over rocks twisted like swollen toads. Moloch and Ashtaroth were not absent; for in this quintessence of all damnation the bounds of consciousness were let down, and man’s fancy lay open to vistas of every realm of horror and every forbidden dimension that evil had power to mould. The world and Nature were helpless against such assaults from unsealed wells of night, nor could any sign or prayer check the Walpurgis-riot of horror which had come when a sage with the hateful key had stumbled on a horde with the locked and brimming coffer of transmitted daemon-lore.
Day 6 ends Monday the 18th at 4pm PST.
With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
If it is we’ve lost
No, we have the looking glass.
To clarify, if Tom somehow isn't the last scum, Cyan shoots the **** out of RE tonight and inspects Rhand and then we win tomorrow at latest.
That said, GGWP. Ballsy claim, putting two scums into daychat and claiming parity cop as a thing then trying to clear one or both of them.