Uhh...no you didn't? I flatly refuse to believe there's another effect that could have sent you to the overworld the same night I used the mark on the target most likely to be NK'd when no NK occurred.
Btw RE - you were in a QT yesterday right? From Cantrip? Did he and whoever else you were with tell you anything useful?
Also - in the QT I was in with Tom, he told me that the map of many worlds is a passive item that grants 1 sanity whenever he uses an ability with a target.
Cantrip only posted once. Said Tom would be confirmed with his flip, and so there must have been another way for scum to perform the kill. Shaded Grape a bit. Nothing significant.
Grape and I talked a bit about Cyan being SK. But now I'm pretty sure Cyan is town, mostly due to the arguments with mod over mod error :I
Grape prodded Cantrip to reveal his starting gold and possible suspects, no response.
Also, doesn't Cyan have the scroll of the Elder Sign? Wouldn't that banish an Elder God permanently if one targeted him? Like wat does that mean?
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@cyan he "claims" he was sent to the overworld. He may have targeted rhand with the watch but he *definitely* targeted Cyan as well. You know. With a mafia kill that was somehow prevented.
Alright, let's try to put the pieces of this together. I am basically positive that Wuffles is telling the truth about having used that Mark on me, which would be a complete nonsense thing for him to do if he were Mafia Godfather or something. Ironically, I also activated the Mask that Cantrip gave me last night(why not it was a 3 Sanity bonus after I used the Healing Stone). I checked with DV, and was informed that the Mark would trigger before my Mask, because it's a commuter ability while the mask is what he called a super-redirect. So any ability that Tom theoretically targeted me with would have bounced back to himself even if Wuffles didn't Mark me). But anyway. Tom having targeted me with <some ability> after Wuffles Mark'ed me is the only plausible explanation here.
I Bandaged Rhand last night. I also targeted him with Camilla's Ruby. He should be able to verify that he received 2 Sanity, each of these items gives 1. I asked DV if I would have been notified if the Bandages prevented a kill(because you have to target that person again to keep them from dying the next night), but he said no. So I guess you're just supposed to gamble a bit there. It's not something I agree with, but oh well there's nothing for it now.
I think that Tom is telling the truth about having targeted Rhand; I just think he tried to NK him, while also trying to use some item on me, which is how he ended up in the Otherworld.
I'm ready to vote Tom and end the game(I assume), but we should cover our bases just in case. We need to give the Orb that Cantrip bought to someone. I think that should be me. I have enough Sanity to use the Orb and use the Mark of Nyarlathotep again to make sure that I can't be NKed. We should also vote on and bid on some AH items just in case. It's going to be tedious sitting around doing nothing for 48 hours while we wait for whatever we vote on to be locked in, and then waiting for people to bid on them before we finally get around to lynching Tom. But being hasty doesn't make sense.
@Tom: Feel free to vote yourself as a confession of guilt and save us 4-5 days of pointless waiting, you are 100% getting lynched today.
Since there’s not gonna be a Night 7, I am going to come clean.
I am not one-shot; I am an odd-Night cop.
I copped Cyan N3. He’s town. The reason I chose him is that he didn’t claim the word Rookie, and in my role Rookie is described as being the odd-Night aspect of my role.
I tried to cop tom and watch Wuffles N5, but was sent to the otherworld and my actions fizzled.
Okay so I lost 1 sanity from the otherworld and gained 1 from something else. Which can’t be the bandages because they give 2.
It should be something that triggers before the roleblock from the otherworld, which I guess triggers when my cop or watch ability triggered.
I look forward to the post-game post of DV where he explains how the Nights played out
If I get sent to the otherworld on my watch/cop, then all abilities trigger before mine and I should’ve gotten the bandages sanity.
If the hide of otherworld triggers on the hide in order of operations, then only copy comes before that.
This makes no sense.
Hmm something is amiss here though, is it not? Why did 2 people get sent to the Otherworld? This seems pretty important to work out. Is Tom lying about being sent to the abyss? Why would he even bother? Why are there unanswered questions literally every day in this game. :/
I also don't know what to make of Rhand's updated claim. If he is scum pulling a fast one, why even bother with this? And then where did the NK go last night?
Should we just NL today? I can Vig Tom and investigate RE if Im given the Orb. Or maybe Im just over thinking this, I dunno. Im just trying to cover all bases.
Well the bandages worked, so if we No Lynch and I was the NK target, I might die toNight. Not sure if getting sent to the otherworld will protect me from that, but since I got the bandages sanity, I think I got sent to the otherworld too late and still absorbed the kill if I was the target. With Wuffles announcing the rift and me holding the telescope, I think I was the only valid target for the kill.
Which means if we no lynch now, we might end in 2 vs 1 toMorrow with both tom and RE alive.
If we do lynch and the lynch is wrong, we can be 1vs1 with a scum win.
Darnit, this game isn’t as cut-out win as I thought it to be.
No one is holding bandages anymore, right?
So to recap, assuming all is correctly claimed:
Wuffles sends everyone targeting Cyan to the otherworld and targets cyan with his other ability to go there.
tom targets Rhand but goes to otherworld
Rhand targets wuffles and tom but goes to otherworld
RE targets Grape
Cyan targets Rhand and does not go to otherworld
That means:
If tom is town and was redirected to Cyan, then so was I. Which seems implausible.
If tom is town and Wuffles got redirected to me, then Cyan would be in otherworld too. Which didn’t happen.
If tom is scum and Wuffles got redirected to himself, then the current scenario fits: tom, Wuffles and me all targeted Wuffles.
If tom is scum and I got redirected to Cyan, the current scenario fits too: tom, Wuffles and me all targeted Cyan.
The question is then: why would scum redirect Wuffles or me?
Wuffles makes sense if Cyan was the kill target: his redirect would’ve saved Cyan. But then tom must be lying about targeting me.
Me makes sense if scum thought I would watch the kill, but in that case redirecting to Cyan makes little sense.
Meh I can’t find logic here that really fits.
But I do think that there is a real chance that the bandages saved me and I’m not gonna be around toMorrow.
Hmm. Give me a second to ask MODGOD because I was just assuming rather than notifying as such. I didn't get notified that I went to the Overworld last night.
I do know that I wouldn't be told if going to the overworld prevented a kill on me.
wait no nevermind. I confirm that I was sent to the overworld last night and that my performer failed, I just missed the notifications for some reason.
Wuffles where does your other ability fall in the Order of operations? Also inspect, right?
I think since the bandages gave me sanity, the kill would’ve killed you before you got sent to otherworld.
That means either I was the kill and die next Night, or Cyan was the kill and that’s what sent tom to the otherworld.
Motorcycle sounds fun to me too. And yeah RR, that is how DV explained it. Why do you ask?
I was confused for a second whether the mask would have redirected the mark onto Wuffles and then everyone targeting Wuffles would be sent to the Otherworld but it doesn't look that way.
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Which means if we no lynch now, we might end in 2 vs 1 toMorrow with both tom and RE alive.
This scenario doesn't sound bad if Cyan is alive (from the Mask) and has checked me or Tom. I'm pretty sure the only viable target for tonight's kill is Wuffles, and while I haven't double-checked, I'm sure there's a way to make the most of that.
Wuffles/Cyan are town to me for sure. I think it's between you and Tom and I'm willing to bet on Tom, who has significantly more mechanical evidence against him than you. But no lynch may be ideal.
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Yeah I didn't think about the Bandages possibly having stopped Rhand from dying. I guess we just proceed as normal then. Of course, we won't even know if that is what happened to the NK until tomorrow morning, which...really sucks.
It seems overwhelmingly likely that Tom is the final scum at this point anyway, but meh. If he's not, we might be in lynch or lose right now and don't have any way of actually knowing. :/
Hmm. I can put the Eyes up for auction and we can be sure that Wuffles buys them, which will stop anyone from being able to NK him. I still have the Mask of Nyarlathotep which will protect me, and if you guys vote the Orb to me, I can still investigate Rhand, and shoot RE. So if Rhand is the final scum and just duped us this whole time, we'll be able to figure it out. If it's RE, hopefully he just dies tonight when I shoot him. And if it's Wuffles and he got to get a fake town confirmation via an item then...well that sucks and there's nothing we can really do about it.
@RE: Just to be clear, you did not end up in the Otherworld?
Hey cyan. Just out of curiosity, how many ******* items do you have right now like I thought I was a juggernaut with eight items but ***** man you must have over a dozen by now.
Nah I just have like 6 or 7? Less than you Im sure heh. You do have some money left to buy the Eyes if I put them up for sale, right? And you're okay not being able to do anything else for a night?
I'd say keep anything from daoloththe hell away from this game.
The description there is like - okay so you can "see things as they truly are" but also "anyone who gazes upon him goes mad" and he likes teleporting people to strange dimensions.
Nah fam. Not worth it. I'd suggest amulet and motorcycle. We got more power in this game than we know what to do with at this point and I'm frankly happy to play safe at this point.
Oh that's probably exactly what happened, Wuffles. Likely he forgot that I had that sign from Silver. Keeping track of whom has which items is a seriously daunting task this game.
@Rhand
Earlier this game you claimed you were a Rookie Cop and that's why you were only given one shot. So that was a lie? What's the actual flavor behind your name?
Also, why did you hold off on claiming your real role (and results on Cyan)? There were likely methods in store to keep you alive.
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It's probably just tom. My tinfoils have about 0% accuracy. But because Rhand has the Headdress (double voter), if he is scum, then the game is over if it reaches 3 players.
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Btw RE - you were in a QT yesterday right? From Cantrip? Did he and whoever else you were with tell you anything useful?
Grape and I talked a bit about Cyan being SK. But now I'm pretty sure Cyan is town, mostly due to the arguments with mod over mod error :I
Grape prodded Cantrip to reveal his starting gold and possible suspects, no response.
Also, doesn't Cyan have the scroll of the Elder Sign? Wouldn't that banish an Elder God permanently if one targeted him? Like wat does that mean?
@Tom: Which ability did you target Rhand with?
If I'm town for Cantrip's flip, who's scum?
I Bandaged Rhand last night. I also targeted him with Camilla's Ruby. He should be able to verify that he received 2 Sanity, each of these items gives 1. I asked DV if I would have been notified if the Bandages prevented a kill(because you have to target that person again to keep them from dying the next night), but he said no. So I guess you're just supposed to gamble a bit there. It's not something I agree with, but oh well there's nothing for it now.
I think that Tom is telling the truth about having targeted Rhand; I just think he tried to NK him, while also trying to use some item on me, which is how he ended up in the Otherworld.
I'm ready to vote Tom and end the game(I assume), but we should cover our bases just in case. We need to give the Orb that Cantrip bought to someone. I think that should be me. I have enough Sanity to use the Orb and use the Mark of Nyarlathotep again to make sure that I can't be NKed. We should also vote on and bid on some AH items just in case. It's going to be tedious sitting around doing nothing for 48 hours while we wait for whatever we vote on to be locked in, and then waiting for people to bid on them before we finally get around to lynching Tom. But being hasty doesn't make sense.
@Tom: Feel free to vote yourself as a confession of guilt and save us 4-5 days of pointless waiting, you are 100% getting lynched today.
*gives cyan confirmed town super-juggernaut fist-bump*
Looks like I had no reason to be worried, heh.
RE, rhand, anything to add?
Also, just to clarify, the Mark overrides the Mask, so basically the Mask did nothing last night (except sanity gain)?
Idk what happened here idk who's scum
I guess the choices are, like, godfatherwuffles/skcyan/REbutmakesnosenseflavorwise/rhandand?????
None seem particularly likely but
I'll leave a legacy lemme look at votes and ***** see if anything stands out
I am not one-shot; I am an odd-Night cop.
I copped Cyan N3. He’s town. The reason I chose him is that he didn’t claim the word Rookie, and in my role Rookie is described as being the odd-Night aspect of my role.
I tried to cop tom and watch Wuffles N5, but was sent to the otherworld and my actions fizzled.
Thanks for the suicide Grape!
I’ll talk about my sanity later. I think the mod made an error there and I need to clarify that first.
It should be something that triggers before the roleblock from the otherworld, which I guess triggers when my cop or watch ability triggered.
I look forward to the post-game post of DV where he explains how the Nights played out
Copy
Hide
Bus Drive
Block
Redirect
Protect
Miscellaneous
Kill
Recruit
Inspect
If I get sent to the otherworld on my watch/cop, then all abilities trigger before mine and I should’ve gotten the bandages sanity.
If the hide of otherworld triggers on the hide in order of operations, then only copy comes before that.
This makes no sense.
@Wuffles: shall I use holy water on you?
I also don't know what to make of Rhand's updated claim. If he is scum pulling a fast one, why even bother with this? And then where did the NK go last night?
Should we just NL today? I can Vig Tom and investigate RE if Im given the Orb. Or maybe Im just over thinking this, I dunno. Im just trying to cover all bases.
Which means if we no lynch now, we might end in 2 vs 1 toMorrow with both tom and RE alive.
If we do lynch and the lynch is wrong, we can be 1vs1 with a scum win.
Darnit, this game isn’t as cut-out win as I thought it to be.
No one is holding bandages anymore, right?
So to recap, assuming all is correctly claimed:
Wuffles sends everyone targeting Cyan to the otherworld and targets cyan with his other ability to go there.
tom targets Rhand but goes to otherworld
Rhand targets wuffles and tom but goes to otherworld
RE targets Grape
Cyan targets Rhand and does not go to otherworld
That means:
If tom is town and was redirected to Cyan, then so was I. Which seems implausible.
If tom is town and Wuffles got redirected to me, then Cyan would be in otherworld too. Which didn’t happen.
If tom is scum and Wuffles got redirected to himself, then the current scenario fits: tom, Wuffles and me all targeted Wuffles.
If tom is scum and I got redirected to Cyan, the current scenario fits too: tom, Wuffles and me all targeted Cyan.
The question is then: why would scum redirect Wuffles or me?
Wuffles makes sense if Cyan was the kill target: his redirect would’ve saved Cyan. But then tom must be lying about targeting me.
Me makes sense if scum thought I would watch the kill, but in that case redirecting to Cyan makes little sense.
Meh I can’t find logic here that really fits.
But I do think that there is a real chance that the bandages saved me and I’m not gonna be around toMorrow.
@Wuffles: did you actually end up in otherworld?
I do know that I wouldn't be told if going to the overworld prevented a kill on me.
I think since the bandages gave me sanity, the kill would’ve killed you before you got sent to otherworld.
That means either I was the kill and die next Night, or Cyan was the kill and that’s what sent tom to the otherworld.
Wuffles/Cyan are town to me for sure. I think it's between you and Tom and I'm willing to bet on Tom, who has significantly more mechanical evidence against him than you. But no lynch may be ideal.
It seems overwhelmingly likely that Tom is the final scum at this point anyway, but meh. If he's not, we might be in lynch or lose right now and don't have any way of actually knowing. :/
Hmm. I can put the Eyes up for auction and we can be sure that Wuffles buys them, which will stop anyone from being able to NK him. I still have the Mask of Nyarlathotep which will protect me, and if you guys vote the Orb to me, I can still investigate Rhand, and shoot RE. So if Rhand is the final scum and just duped us this whole time, we'll be able to figure it out. If it's RE, hopefully he just dies tonight when I shoot him. And if it's Wuffles and he got to get a fake town confirmation via an item then...well that sucks and there's nothing we can really do about it.
@RE: Just to be clear, you did not end up in the Otherworld?
I never went to the otherworld, didn’t lose that stamina, but my actions both still failed.
Which means I was blocked somehow, and the only way tom entered the otherworld was by targeting Cyan.
vote tom
unvote
Ok now I have even less idea...
Uhh
Hmm
vote Orb to Cyan
The description there is like - okay so you can "see things as they truly are" but also "anyone who gazes upon him goes mad" and he likes teleporting people to strange dimensions.
Nah fam. Not worth it. I'd suggest amulet and motorcycle. We got more power in this game than we know what to do with at this point and I'm frankly happy to play safe at this point.
I was not sent to the Otherworld.
vote Orb of Third Eye: Cyan
Earlier this game you claimed you were a Rookie Cop and that's why you were only given one shot. So that was a lie? What's the actual flavor behind your name?
Also, why did you hold off on claiming your real role (and results on Cyan)? There were likely methods in store to keep you alive.