Unvote Vote Grapefruit
I'm sick and town of town self voting out of frustration.
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF IT.
If you're town, which I can't help but think is the case with that self vote, then shame on you, but I'm done with it, and I will be policy voting anyone who self votes in any scenario that is not LyLo from here on out. Townies continuing to do this is going to make it an okay scum tactic and I'm not going to stand for it.
DV here you go
I'll give you one chance, no more
Unvote and don't again.
I dislike this part.
Strong emotions... second chance?
Seems too quick I think?
Killjoy, I'm confused
What didn't you like about that?
Do you disagree?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
are they both lead by a vote
left from RVS?
Forgot about my
R V S
Unvote
For Shadow, town lean
Because voting self-voter
Came off genuine
Avoided Lngrrr
When many others voted,
Could have piled on
Is def NAI for me
Now it's policy.
But the context and method
Says more than nothing.
Consider not back
Curious how this play good
If think town then bad
Basically say
Policy vote town not play
As town hypocrite
Why you chose Shadow to vote
Specifically
You have shaded me
At least twice now, it seems strange
You did not vote me
So what do you think
Of my answer? Did you skip
or just not read it?
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Policy is set
Whether for good or for bad
Shadow can not change
Try stopping the sun
Push down, straining with might
Morning will slip through
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
I'm not sure i like
How you declare scum voting
And then take it back
Maybe that's because
From a scums evil standpoint
Seems the perfect move?
If following friends
Does one jump off cliff to death?
To say "Policy" dumb
His usage is NAI
Hence why policy
If you disagree
It's a question of tactics
Not his alignment
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
I disagree sir.
It is a tactic scummy.
Logic behind dumb.
You may find the logic dumb
But dumb is not scum
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
I lead this charge for glory
I don't like self votes
Thus all I can do
Is lynch the tactic away
I won't back down now
Do what you want to
I won't let no lynch occur
Besides that I'm set.
D_V (4): Psychatrog, Rodemy, D_V, shadowlancerx
LnGrrrR (3): DoTArchon, tomsloger, Killjoy
shadowlancerx (3): Rhand, Sir Chris, dawningbluesky
Killjoy (1): LnGrrrR
Not voting: Anaklusmos
Lynch threshold this Day
is reached when a player has
Seven votes on them.
Day 1 deadline is
The midnight of Wednesday,
December 13th.
Replacement
Is being sought for
Psychatrog
Surely he saw one two two
I await answers
Fishing is fishing
And still you do not have reads
Please provide a list
Voting for wagon
But not trying to hunt scum
How is that helping?
Further to this
Re-read Rodemy
Not fishing
Misunderstanding
Could be that Rod Vanilla
Shadow post then false
But P R is both
Post restriction and Power
You asked me direct
I being useless
Don't worry I said policy.
Real town behavior.
It's not townie it's just me
Setting precedent.
Why leave your vote though?
Are you just proving a point?
Or defiant scum?
Knee jerk reaction.
Strong emotion, quick relent.
Felt unnatural.
Upon reflection
Self-conciousenough for scum.Probably. I think.
So basically
My read on you today is:
Not willing to lynch.
Not shadow...
DV?Lingerer.
Not seeing big recent change.
Clue me in? Plzthx.
Quote breadcrumb?
I still do not see
what you mean?
You're missing the point.
Why shadow over others?
Over Lingerer?
I disagree here.
That's a reason Shadow town.
Scum want to look good.
New reads are abound.
Hopefully more accurate.
We'll see, I suppose.
Rod and Dot are town.
Tom and shadow are leaning.
DV is outskirts?
I'm questioning Rhand.
Scumread hasty? IDK.
He's nullish.
Dawn also is null.
That feels a bit strange though.
We will see in time?
Cannot rule out trog
because lack activity.
Better lynches, obv.
Lean scum as follows:
Chris, Anak not acting town.
Not seeing from them.
Linger feels scum.
Plus suspicion, but few votes.
Buddies avoiding votes?
About linger's breadcrumb there
I thought he's power
Now I am not sure
If his even / odd thing means
Anything at all
Anak was a test
Give him benefit of doubt
See if he improves
He did not really
Still think I found scum in him
But Shadow is worse
Voting for selfvote
Is okay in vacuum
But it's all he does
It's like an excuse
To not be useful day 1
Which is not town!him
Though I'm less engaged this game,
Could be what you see.
Also, these haikus
Are really a drain on me
Can't post my thoughts out.
His self vote lynch policy
Low fantasy vibes
I remember now
Me saying i'll do the same
And him saying that.
Sweet shadow is town
Lingerer still reads as scum
But so does d_v
Anak how did you
Forget about rvs
Vote shame shame shame shame
But I'm back for real my friends
Starting tomorrow
Alarm on my phone
Says to catch up on this thread
And then make a post
Don't worry.
Please do not replace.
I am back.
Shadow's vote on Div
was it for pressure or lynch?
policy for what?
Shadow over Linge
will help move the game forward
on self-vote topic
focus on topic
ideal: one before the next
won't be hard to read
Be grateful, always."
literally means nothing
i am sure of it
unvote: vote psychatrog
That is an odd vote.
Red Cream puff
He's made two posts in this thread
Thought both were scummy
Better targets are
Viable
renewed presence in the thread
Not replacing them.
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Guess I make Tom nervous, though.
Well, that's how it is.
Let's get the ball rolling with
T/S List Haiku.
First, my townie reads.
Besides me, there's DotArchon,
Rhand and Killjoy.
Dota posts are good.
Example: post 1 3 5
Asking for reasons.
Naked votes are bad
Dota seeks to clarify
No one explained much.
Rhand's genuine.
I liked his 1 7 1
Re: policy votes.
They should never be
An excuse to not scumhunt,
Shadowlancerx.
Killjoy's thoughts are good
Updates his analysis
As new things are known
His frustration re:
T/S lists in post 2 1
Reads townie to me.
Scum reads now include
Dawningbluesky, Tom, Anak
Shadowlancerx.
Dawn posts have no oomph.
Makes excuses, says that they
can't contribute much.
This seems like a real
Convenient excuse to not
Scumhunt much at all.
Also naked vote
In 1 3 4 on shadow
Don't like that at all.
Tom, more confusing.
Scumhunting, but wagon hops.
Some votes naked too.
Tom, in one thirty
Unvotes DV, but provides
No real reason there.
Then in 1 3 2
Hops to Lngr, but this time
Waffles in his post.
However he has
A great point in 1 5 1
on RVS votes.
Wagons led by votes
Left over from RVS
Seem sketchy at best.
Anak was called out
For coasting a couple times
Really hasn't changed.
He's still not voting?
How, when there is just so much
Info in the thread?
Anak, who are your
Top three scumreads at this point?
Tell us what you think.
Shadowlancerx
Uses policy vote as
Excuse not to hunt
Come on, dude!
I get your point but
Help us out.
Where would your vote be
If it weren't for ol' D_V
Selfvoting today?
Others right now null
Chris concerns me, as his posts
Don't offer too much.
D_V's frustration
Feels real but I'm not impressed
With actions so far.
Rodemy... well, hmm.
Has some good points here and there
Like in post 9 2
When Rod points out that
DV attacks Tom but won't
Do same at Shadow
But spends too much time
Pointlessly crusading at
Dawn for a non-slip
The more I type this
I am leaning scumward on
Rodemy so far.
Finally, LnGrrrR
Confused many in their post
Number twenty two
Just by referring
To the night parity rules
From the starting post.
Though I'm still concerned
About flowery language
LnGrrrR uses lots
Because while that's fun
It obscures interactions
And that's not town play
Overall so far
Based on what I wrote down here
Unvote, vote: Shadow
Rhand, I am not sure
Why you doubt your own beliefs
You should know the truth
You waver like wheat
Twisting in the wind both ways
Stay true to your thoughts
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Me looking at my wagon
And also DV
I very much care
I'm not just a stick in mud
Kind of suspect you Talk about this line
What was going through your head?
Tell you what I think,
You deflect blame here.
"Oh no, this is where I land"
You don't own this read.
Actually I was
Just filling out haiku form
Since that's what we do
Though I realize now
Votes don't need to be like that
I was in the groove
In fact I nearly
Wrote a real email this way
Right after this post
I'll reread you, but
I'd prefer if you would just
Answer my question.
missed this question
I can hunt from a 3rd view
would you rather 1st?
ask if curious
I can answer any concerns
observing works
hello Psychatrog
nice to see a check on me
why do I act so?
Be grateful, always."
Huh? What? Hmm?
I don't understand.
Try again?
I would like to know
what you think I'm doing
does it help town/scum?
Be grateful, always."
Good natured for one eight five.
So that is goodly.
I'm trusting Tom less.
Mindmelding with DotArchon.
Don't agree re: trog.
Dot still town.
Not much more on this.
Mindmelding.
Trogs catch up
in one eighty three
was fine. Moose.
I am not willing
to lynch him (trog) instead of
Linger, Anak... Dawn?
i know i dont usually
leave slank cover, but...
psychatrog "entrance"
is fine i guess. bit reachy
would happily lynch
specially dislike
his scumread on rodemy
and bussing(?) shadow
dont expect wagon
on psych to happen today
which is a pity
as of right nowish
my order of preference
ling>shadow>dv
Way more impact from town!you
You're being soft
Lngr okay again
No support for that lynch here
Anak / Dawn / Shadow
If you believe, prove.
Can't see it.
Is it all meta read?
Behavior?
Spent to long on dawns nonslip
But here is reason
Nowhere did it say
Mafia don't follow the
Haiku rules this game
I remember a
Game i played long time ago
With a weird pee are
Mafia did not
Have to follow post restricts
Thought inside info
Your vote on shadow
Is why some of us see him
As aligning town
So my question here
Is why pile on that vote
Citing no scum chase?
Like he's gonna do
This the entire game but
We all know he wont
Never have i knowb
Shadow to be lazy scum
So your point is null
Thinking you are scum
Mainly for your shadow vote
And poor reasoning.
"I know his meta"
This is a non-argument
Please read him this game
I've been pondering
It's this game I'm worried of
But with thinking back
I realised that
the last game I remember
he had impact yes
But he was scum there
That makes me doubt the whole read
But still, here he's soft
Way too soft
Might be the Haiku's
I don't know
Maybe Anak is
A better lynch for toDay
vote: Anaklusmos
But that doesn't make him scum
He is misguided
Tom, what makes you shy
Away from Psychatrog's lynch
You give up easy
You say he's reaching
And sad no pressure on him
But not on your list?
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
D_V (3): Rodemy, D_V, shadowlancerx
shadowlancerx (3): Sir Chris, dawningbluesky, Psychatrog
LnGrrrR (2): DoTArchon, Killjoy
Anaklusmos (1): Rhand
Psychatrog (1): tomsloger
Sir Chris (1): LnGrrrR
Not voting: Anaklusmos
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is reached when a player has
Seven votes on them.
Day 1 deadline is
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December 13th.
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