I have to take some pie in my face and admit that DBS probably blocked it based on that. However, this is probably the best possible outcome. That means DBS is confirmed town and Kaba confirmed scum.
first you say this
now you say that
ouch...
I have sense, lots of sense. my arguments make sense. my questions make sense. what am I if I don't make sense? confusing, maybe.
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ISO, can you speak with me logically here with out being biased.
Did you replace your mouth with your ass and vice-versa? Because it sure seems like you're talking out of it.
What bias am I speaking to you with? I was one of your strongest advocates on Day 1. I thought you were town. I even suggested your bizarre handling of Jenna's claim on D2 might be NAI. So please, tell me all about this bias I have towards you.
What logic is missing from my posts? My interpretation of the events of last Night is perfectly cohesive and sensible.
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Kaba, why didnt you target anyone either of the nights?
Night 1 I was worried I would be betrayed because I wasn't very active (I only start with 3 BP btw)so betrayal and acting would leave me at 1, unable to act and also prone to death by betrayal the next nght. Decided not to use it
Night 2 I wasn't here
@Joe I don't know what to tell you lol apparently my feminine charms transcends gender and species
ISO, can you speak with me logically here with out being biased.
Did you replace your mouth with your ass and vice-versa? Because it sure seems like you're talking out of it.
What bias am I speaking to you with? I was one of your strongest advocates on Day 1. I thought you were town. I even suggested your bizarre handling of Jenna's claim on D2 might be NAI. So please, tell me all about this bias I have towards you.
What logic is missing from my posts? My interpretation of the events of last Night is perfectly cohesive and sensible.
Also, did anyone else chuckle when Terry said we should let Kaba live, then voted him the next post?
I sure did!
I was asking you to trust me for today, sorry if that wording was confusing. I was referring to a "Bias" you assuming I'm scum, which I'm not. Tell me what you think about Kaba's claim?
Kaba, why didnt you target anyone either of the nights?
Night 1 I was worried I would be betrayed because I wasn't very active (I only start with 3 BP btw)so betrayal and acting would leave me at 1, unable to act and also prone to death by betrayal the next nght. Decided not to use it
Night 2 I wasn't here
@Joe I don't know what to tell you lol apparently my feminine charms transcends gender and species
Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
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Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
is this possible bussing? I remember you saying you're a busser.
Yes, but the whole theory about me being scum was based on the assumption that I'm covering for him. I know this does no good coming from me, but think it through. It would be so bad as scum to fake claim to protect a scum buddy and then tell everybody, NO! I bus as scum and then change to bussing after I used that self meta excuse.
vote: Kaba hmm... wierd turn of events... I did say my perspective would change based on what you did...
Terry
Lol that vote change...
Phase
Possibly a busser... dont think he will be off the hook even if kaba flips scum
@Everyone
Maybe its just me, but I dont see Jenna and Kaba roles being on the same alignment... so again if Kaba flips scum then Jenna is w/o a doubt cleared imo
vote: Kaba hmm... wierd turn of events... I did say my perspective would change based on what you did...
Terry
Lol that vote change...
Phase
Possibly a busser... dont think he will be off the hook even if kaba flips scum
@Everyone
Maybe its just me, but I dont see Jenna and Kaba roles being on the same alignment... so again if Kaba flips scum then Jenna is w/o a doubt cleared imo
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ISO, can you speak with me logically here with out being biased. Clearly Kaba's claim was a fake claim. My character doesn't have a *****, let alone human genitalia (since apparently I'm a cyborg), so I'm immune to his ability (this is making light of the situation). Back to the issue at hand. I mean Kaba didn't even try to make a real claim. What does this tell you? It tells me Kaba is scum and trying to take me down with him. He clearly knows he's going to flip scum. I would not be surprised if Kaba was the BP stealer, sounds like a prostitute to me.
I have to take some pie in my face and admit that DBS probably blocked it based on that. However, this is probably the best possible outcome. That means DBS is confirmed town and Kaba confirmed scum.
Except, this would mean that I am not actually dying and being put out of my misery. That is not the best possible outcome....
@Kaba: You say you were afraid of being betrayed which is why you did not use your ability, but you could always betray yourself to guard against that. Did you not look at the night pairings/claims to that point and consider whether it would be useful to see if anyone was using an ability? Shoot, that is possibly one of the more useful things to know, and it catches liars like no one's business. And only costs 1 even! Which is kind of too good to be true in this game of crappy BP abilities.
Prostitute sounds very much like it could be our missing BP stealer. I'm probably going to be happy to vote Kaba myself, but I'm also in no rush.
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Kaba was missing from scum chat last night, DBS decides to frame him for town credit and I actually blocked Axel's kill, Kaba comes in and commits a DERP I'm Scum suicide and Axel dies with out coming to terms of it being his last day.
It's a stretchy, but Kaba's claim was just SOOOOOO bad, it's making me nervous. Not nervous that he isn't scum, nervous that there is something more nefarious going on.
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Kaba was missing from scum chat last night, DBS decides to frame him for town credit and I actually blocked Axel's kill, Kaba comes in and commits a DERP I'm Scum suicide and Axel dies with out coming to terms of it being his last day.
It's a stretchy, but Kaba's claim was just SOOOOOO bad, it's making me nervous. Not nervous that he isn't scum, nervous that there is something more nefarious going on.
The part where this line of play is just so completely out of whack that it's ridiculous you think something like this could happen and expect us to ignore the elephant in the room, that being the infinitely more likely possibility that you're just scum with Kabazame and that dawn is town.
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I'm not really arguing that as the most likely turn of events, just pointing out the possibility.
Ok, walk through this with me again. If Axel does not die AND Kaba flips scum, please explain to me why scum would fake claim and offer up a two for one like this?
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Lngrr, in the event of a mass plan for AN, I would certainly support results claiming.
Axel, I've addressed your precise question elsewhere, but I'm going to refer to the notion that a scum player wouldn't target another scum player with that as the "ghost pendant fallacy" in memorium of inheritance mafia.
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Lngrr, in the event of a mass plan for AN, I would certainly support results claiming.
Axel, I've addressed your precise question elsewhere, but I'm going to refer to the notion that a scum player wouldn't target another scum player with that as the "ghost pendant fallacy" in memorium of inheritance mafia.
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so then you are saying, as scum, I would offer up an easy two for one to save my MIA scum buddy? I just can't see how, a player with your credentials cam even think that's a remotely possible scenerio.
@Kaba: Why on earth did you not claim when Jenna claimed tracker? What would be the problem with going down to 1 BP if you actually used your ability night 1? DBS and Terry, town or scum and why?
did either of you actually read that post... He was talking about his theory... Again Phoenix u jump on stuff like this... Remember when u thought my post day 1 was a slip?
Are you serious? That was a clip from my tinfoil theory where DBS and kaba are scum together. How out of context can you take it?
This wasn't completely serious, but there is the concern that you're pushing 2 lynches at once this way. I'm down with lynching Kaba, and I'm not opposed to lynching Dawning at some point but I'm not so certain that they are allied. It also kinda feels like a misdirect. Like, I don't trust you quite enough to just go on your word.
did either of you actually read that post... He was talking about his theory... Again Phoenix u jump on stuff like this... Remember when u thought my post day 1 was a slip?
Did you just...not refresh the page and see my VERY NEXT POST?
did either of you actually read that post... He was talking about his theory... Again Phoenix u jump on stuff like this... Remember when u thought my post day 1 was a slip?
Did you just...not refresh the page and see my VERY NEXT POST?
did either of you actually read that post... He was talking about his theory... Again Phoenix u jump on stuff like this... Remember when u thought my post day 1 was a slip?
Did you just...not refresh the page and see my VERY NEXT POST?
lol, no...
but again u shouldn't have even needed to clarify your post... Because Terry's post was pretty self explanatory...
Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
is this possible bussing? I remember you saying you're a busser.
Yes, but the whole theory about me being scum was based on the assumption that I'm covering for him. I know this does no good coming from me, but think it through. It would be so bad as scum to fake claim to protect a scum buddy and then tell everybody, NO! I bus as scum and then change to bussing after I used that self meta excuse.
you claimed because you had to explain betraying a townread. anything that happened afterwards was inconsistent, as a result of cracking under pressure.
Kaba was missing from scum chat last night, DBS decides to frame him for town credit and I actually blocked Axel's kill, Kaba comes in and commits a DERP I'm Scum suicide and Axel dies with out coming to terms of it being his last day.
It's a stretchy, but Kaba's claim was just SOOOOOO bad, it's making me nervous. Not nervous that he isn't scum, nervous that there is something more nefarious going on.
you disbelieved Kaba's claim right away, and asked him to scumclaim so we can 'get it over with' .....then make up this theory when I didn't even push Kaba in the first place, but went for Shin instead? what happened to this:
The part where this line of play is just so completely out of whack that it's ridiculous you think something like this could happen and expect us to ignore the elephant in the room
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the rest are townreads to me smh
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Also, did anyone else chuckle when Terry said we should let Kaba live, then voted him the next post?
Vote Kabazame
Kaba, why didnt you target anyone either of the nights?
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Yeah, that.
I guess we can vote for Kaba...
Vote Kabazame
first you say this
now you say that
ouch...
I have sense, lots of sense. my arguments make sense. my questions make sense. what am I if I don't make sense? confusing, maybe.
Be grateful, always."
Did you replace your mouth with your ass and vice-versa? Because it sure seems like you're talking out of it.
What bias am I speaking to you with? I was one of your strongest advocates on Day 1. I thought you were town. I even suggested your bizarre handling of Jenna's claim on D2 might be NAI. So please, tell me all about this bias I have towards you.
What logic is missing from my posts? My interpretation of the events of last Night is perfectly cohesive and sensible.
I sure did!
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Night 1 I was worried I would be betrayed because I wasn't very active (I only start with 3 BP btw)so betrayal and acting would leave me at 1, unable to act and also prone to death by betrayal the next nght. Decided not to use it
Night 2 I wasn't here
@Joe I don't know what to tell you lol apparently my feminine charms transcends gender and species
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bingo! I'm a confusing player!
is this possible bussing? I remember you saying you're a busser.
Be grateful, always."
Terry
Lol that vote change...
Phase
Possibly a busser... dont think he will be off the hook even if kaba flips scum
@Everyone
Maybe its just me, but I dont see Jenna and Kaba roles being on the same alignment... so again if Kaba flips scum then Jenna is w/o a doubt cleared imo
That he's scum. How is that even a question?
Also, looks like we might be lynching Kaba, instead. Which is fine, since that's who I was voting before we switched to Az.
Unvote, Vote Kabazame
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Except, this would mean that I am not actually dying and being put out of my misery. That is not the best possible outcome....
@Kaba: You say you were afraid of being betrayed which is why you did not use your ability, but you could always betray yourself to guard against that. Did you not look at the night pairings/claims to that point and consider whether it would be useful to see if anyone was using an ability? Shoot, that is possibly one of the more useful things to know, and it catches liars like no one's business. And only costs 1 even! Which is kind of too good to be true in this game of crappy BP abilities.
Prostitute sounds very much like it could be our missing BP stealer. I'm probably going to be happy to vote Kaba myself, but I'm also in no rush.
Kaba was missing from scum chat last night, DBS decides to frame him for town credit and I actually blocked Axel's kill, Kaba comes in and commits a DERP I'm Scum suicide and Axel dies with out coming to terms of it being his last day.
It's a stretchy, but Kaba's claim was just SOOOOOO bad, it's making me nervous. Not nervous that he isn't scum, nervous that there is something more nefarious going on.
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The part where this line of play is just so completely out of whack that it's ridiculous you think something like this could happen and expect us to ignore the elephant in the room, that being the infinitely more likely possibility that you're just scum with Kabazame and that dawn is town.
I feel like Cyan saying this.
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Ok, walk through this with me again. If Axel does not die AND Kaba flips scum, please explain to me why scum would fake claim and offer up a two for one like this?
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Axel, I've addressed your precise question elsewhere, but I'm going to refer to the notion that a scum player wouldn't target another scum player with that as the "ghost pendant fallacy" in memorium of inheritance mafia.
A Poisoner shot. We've been over this.
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Is this a scum slip?
@Kaba: Why on earth did you not claim when Jenna claimed tracker? What would be the problem with going down to 1 BP if you actually used your ability night 1? DBS and Terry, town or scum and why?I have some issues with kaba's claim, but that's not what he said.In a vacuum this looks a lot like a bus vote if kaba flips scum (which seems pretty likely).
well that info can only clear the first two so meh
he could be scum. ive seen "hooker" as role before but not prostitute afair
This wasn't completely serious, but there is the concern that you're pushing 2 lynches at once this way. I'm down with lynching Kaba, and I'm not opposed to lynching Dawning at some point but I'm not so certain that they are allied. It also kinda feels like a misdirect. Like, I don't trust you quite enough to just go on your word.
you disbelieved Kaba's claim right away, and asked him to scumclaim so we can 'get it over with' .....then make up this theory when I didn't even push Kaba in the first place, but went for Shin instead? what happened to this:
nice to see we're agreeing~
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I can fly
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the rest are townreads to me smh
Be grateful, always."