But to answer ur question, I dont think all scum were GF obviously, Azreal and Orb? I just dont see the reason for Azreal hard defending me if he was scum... like Im not one who just follows blindly...
But to answer ur question, I dont think all scum were GF obviously, Azreal and Orb? I just dont see the reason for Azreal hard defending me if he was scum... like Im not one who just follows blindly...
but obviously the possibility of him being scum is still there, but I guess if he is scum, hard defending me probably would have given him town points when I flipped town, I think?
also I betrayed b/c I didnt want to haphazardly give scum BP, so why would give free bp to anyone...
and It was also to see who was paying attnetion to the game. and possibly clear someone. Like Shin is most def cleared to me, so i'll def be returning the favor tmr.
First off, townlean on Megiddo for ALLYing with me last Night.
@Azreal, did you ally or betray last Night?
Vote Azrael
I'm going to believe town!Iso for now. His post 3292 (can we agree on LW or me?) felt townie. If scum!Iso killed town!DV, who was pretty much Iso's biggest defender... well that's some next level scumplay there. I'm fine with utilizing Occam's Razor here.
The thing I don't get though... if Iso is town, why didn't scum just jump on him? Maybe all of them did and they couldn't convince enough? Iso was at 7 votes for awhile, and so was LW. For reference:
The only thing preventing me from voting DBS is trusting GF's reads. Anyways, D_V starts the train, and DBS jumps on it on post 3353. My working theory is that Iso wagon was going nowhere, so DBS floated GF as a possible alternative lynch to scumbuddy LW. Once he saw DV jump on it, he decided it was a safe wagon to push. He had noted before that GF was feeling scummy to him, but I'll have to go back further to see if that was in isolation or his feelings "changed" once others expressed suspicion.
Speaking of LW, can anyone confirm they received an extra BP last Night due to LW? If not, I'm fine lynching him too. That ability COULD exist on scum theoretically, but if no one received a BP then I assume he lied about his claim. He was the third vote on the GF wagon, too.
Kabazame is a firm townread.
KJ lurked from mid to end of Day, jumping in long enough to jump on the GF wagon too. Not a fan.
Jenna is scumlean now for me too.
@Tom, why the Iso vote?
This is a great post. I may be mobile all the way to Monday (3 day weekend). I'm probably going full force Jenna lynch today. With DV confirmed town. and how he mind melded with me on the complete absurdity of people town reading Jenna, I'm good with her dying.
*Fire intensifies* Vote Last Whisper
Not only did you elect NOT to prove your role, but you lied about it too!
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I betrayed last night. I think Last Whisper revealed that dawning is town, and allying would hurt her more than help.
First off, townlean on Megiddo for ALLYing with me last Night.
@Azreal, did you ally or betray last Night?
Vote Azrael
I'm going to believe town!Iso for now. His post 3292 (can we agree on LW or me?) felt townie. If scum!Iso killed town!DV, who was pretty much Iso's biggest defender... well that's some next level scumplay there. I'm fine with utilizing Occam's Razor here.
The thing I don't get though... if Iso is town, why didn't scum just jump on him? Maybe all of them did and they couldn't convince enough? Iso was at 7 votes for awhile, and so was LW. For reference:
The only thing preventing me from voting DBS is trusting GF's reads. Anyways, D_V starts the train, and DBS jumps on it on post 3353. My working theory is that Iso wagon was going nowhere, so DBS floated GF as a possible alternative lynch to scumbuddy LW. Once he saw DV jump on it, he decided it was a safe wagon to push. He had noted before that GF was feeling scummy to him, but I'll have to go back further to see if that was in isolation or his feelings "changed" once others expressed suspicion.
Speaking of LW, can anyone confirm they received an extra BP last Night due to LW? If not, I'm fine lynching him too. That ability COULD exist on scum theoretically, but if no one received a BP then I assume he lied about his claim. He was the third vote on the GF wagon, too.
Kabazame is a firm townread.
KJ lurked from mid to end of Day, jumping in long enough to jump on the GF wagon too. Not a fan.
Jenna is scumlean now for me too.
@Tom, why the Iso vote?
This is a great post. I may be mobile all the way to Monday (3 day weekend). I'm probably going full force Jenna lynch today. With DV confirmed town. and how he mind melded with me on the complete absurdity of people town reading Jenna, I'm good with her dying.
Well technically scum didnt finish either of us off, but again talking about it the day of, is something I dont like doing... but its def change the outcome of things in a bad way... so I am ok with town clearing her as scum... but I still believe there is a possible tpr between Iso and Dawn...
For now vote: Jenna I believe this lynch will bring much needed answers
First off, townlean on Megiddo for ALLYing with me last Night.
@Azreal, did you ally or betray last Night?
Vote Azrael
I'm going to believe town!Iso for now. His post 3292 (can we agree on LW or me?) felt townie. If scum!Iso killed town!DV, who was pretty much Iso's biggest defender... well that's some next level scumplay there. I'm fine with utilizing Occam's Razor here.
The thing I don't get though... if Iso is town, why didn't scum just jump on him? Maybe all of them did and they couldn't convince enough? Iso was at 7 votes for awhile, and so was LW. For reference:
The only thing preventing me from voting DBS is trusting GF's reads. Anyways, D_V starts the train, and DBS jumps on it on post 3353. My working theory is that Iso wagon was going nowhere, so DBS floated GF as a possible alternative lynch to scumbuddy LW. Once he saw DV jump on it, he decided it was a safe wagon to push. He had noted before that GF was feeling scummy to him, but I'll have to go back further to see if that was in isolation or his feelings "changed" once others expressed suspicion.
Speaking of LW, can anyone confirm they received an extra BP last Night due to LW? If not, I'm fine lynching him too. That ability COULD exist on scum theoretically, but if no one received a BP then I assume he lied about his claim. He was the third vote on the GF wagon, too.
Kabazame is a firm townread.
KJ lurked from mid to end of Day, jumping in long enough to jump on the GF wagon too. Not a fan.
Jenna is scumlean now for me too.
@Tom, why the Iso vote?
This is a great post. I may be mobile all the way to Monday (3 day weekend). I'm probably going full force Jenna lynch today. With DV confirmed town. and how he mind melded with me on the complete absurdity of people town reading Jenna, I'm good with her dying.
Well technically scum didnt finish either of us off, but again talking about it the day of, is something I dont like doing... but its def change the outcome of things in a bad way... so I am ok with town clearing her as scum... but I still believe there is a possible tpr between Iso and Dawn...
For now vote: Jenna I believe this lynch will bring much needed answers
Edit: because its def changes the outcome of things, in sometimes good ways, but if you talk to much, it can be easily manipulated in a bad way*
(wanted to fix that sentence for clarity, and since we cant edit, I just quoted it again)
*Fire intensifies* Vote Last Whisper
Not only did you elect NOT to prove your role, but you lied about it too!
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I betrayed last night. I think Last Whisper revealed that dawning is town, and allying would hurt her more than help.
*Fire intensifies* Vote Last Whisper
Not only did you elect NOT to prove your role, but you lied about it too!
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I betrayed last night. I think Last Whisper revealed that dawning is town, and allying would hurt her more than help.
Ok, so DBS's roleblock is turned on then. Hopefully he'll get a chance to prove it toNight.
I’m in favor of an Ally/Betray claim from the previous Night.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Please, everyone stop giving the scum additional information related to this. This could be used to further identify town power roles.
Now, if there are specific actions you feel are scummy, by all means, claim it. But let's not just have everyone blurt it out there. Please!
One of Iso's best talents, under either alignment, is figuring out town power roles (meaningful stare at DV's corpse). I have no doubt he's wielding that ability to the fullest extent, in favor of his team.
and can I say something, this may be an unpopular opinion, but when it comes to Tom/Jenna, there is no other option but but W/V or W/W, thats just how I see it
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
So, what was all the business about saying how you are definitely betraying someone tonight? I expected either (1) a claim where you betraying someone actually has a benefit, maybe even to the person you betray or (2) you get something extra special when you betray. This claim has nothing to do with anything. It's just whatever.
Can you explain what was/is up with the "definitely betraying" position?
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@Azreal plz stop defending me at this point, and that mind meld (dont give scum additional info) isnt giving more reason to trust you just yet. Idk how you can even hard defend just by basing it all on my emotional play, like if I died last night it wouldve been better then grape haha...
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
So, what was all the business about saying how you are definitely betraying someone tonight? I expected either (1) a claim where you betraying someone actually has a benefit, maybe even to the person you betray or (2) you get something extra special when you betray. This claim has nothing to do with anything. It's just whatever.
Can you explain what was/is up with the "definitely betraying" position?
@axelrod im not adding fuel to my fire right now, that will be something you wont know unless I survive...
Oh so this isn't you softing that there is in fact more to your role than you claimed and said was definitely your full claim?
nope, that me not wanting to explain why I was def betraying... also how about explaining why you think I didnt give you all the information about my role? do you want me to make a tldr of my roles flavor text, would that help? lol
I'm not surprised that Az doesn't want his scumbuddies to lock themselves into claims with an A/B claim. Scum are definitely planning a gambit/falseclaim of some sort; if I die, please be wary of such.
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@Az, please explain why you think you have any credibility in this game right now.
Why do you think Tom/Jenna might be wolf/village? When Jenna came in, she noted her implicit trust in Tom, and then Tom took to her quite quickly. Why do you think Jenna would be village in that case?
@Az, please explain why you think you have any credibility in this game right now.
Why do you think Tom/Jenna might be wolf/village? When Jenna came in, she noted her implicit trust in Tom, and then Tom took to her quite quickly. Why do you think Jenna would be village in that case?
why did you assume that the V was Jenna? Im saying the V in that case would be Tom...
@Az, please explain why you think you have any credibility in this game right now.
Why do you think Tom/Jenna might be wolf/village? When Jenna came in, she noted her implicit trust in Tom, and then Tom took to her quite quickly. Why do you think Jenna would be village in that case?
why did you assume that the V was Jenna? Im saying the V in that case would be Tom...
Because the order he put it in?
Also, why are you asking about my claim? Just curious.
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1. I wanted to see who was paying attention to the game
2. I wanted to use it to clear someone if possible
3. I didnt want to give points to possible scum, of course the exceptions last night wouldve been(D.V, and Grr)
because D.V said he would claim if I did that, and that I didnt want
and I think Grr said something around the same thing
and Dawn was a special case that I would betray just to give her the correct threshold to rb...
@Az, please explain why you think you have any credibility in this game right now.
Why do you think Tom/Jenna might be wolf/village? When Jenna came in, she noted her implicit trust in Tom, and then Tom took to her quite quickly. Why do you think Jenna would be village in that case?
why did you assume that the V was Jenna? Im saying the V in that case would be Tom...
like, it's definitely possible I'm pocketed
I've always been better at reading good players than new/bad ones...
But she still seems town to me and I dont like this excuse to push me if she flips as such
@Az, please explain why you think you have any credibility in this game right now.
Why do you think Tom/Jenna might be wolf/village? When Jenna came in, she noted her implicit trust in Tom, and then Tom took to her quite quickly. Why do you think Jenna would be village in that case?
why did you assume that the V was Jenna? Im saying the V in that case would be Tom...
Because the order he put it in?
Also, why are you asking about my claim? Just curious.
because didnt you say you get figure out liars between pair ups or something? is this not a great time to talk about it? or am I wrong?
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i mean it matters, but in the case of Shin, unless hes trying to pocket me, there was literally no reason for him to ally me, if he was scum?... but I guess we need to wait till he gets out of work to see why he allied me..
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So what exactly were you implying with that post, then?
cause I didnt want to get more scum read, hours before phase change because you thought my idea was stupid... isnt that what, "adding fuel to the fire" means? but actually I do get why you guys think it had a connection to my role, b/c it may you believe that I had a threshold also, or needed more bp then I was saying...
@Iso, did you gain 3 BP last Night or not? (Technically 2 BP if you lost one.)
why did you say 3?
Because besides next level WIFOM, if Az was telling the truth, his only smart move would be to betray. (It's the only guaranteed way not to lose a BP.) And Iso should've betrayed also, meaning he'd be at -1 BP. If Iso was at +2, then Az was lying. I figured Az wouldn't be dumb enough to incriminate himself but people make mistakes sometimes.
And yes, I can use my ability to determine if someone betrayed or allied.
@Azreal plz stop defending me at this point, and that mind meld (dont give scum additional info) isnt giving more reason to trust you just yet. Idk how you can even hard defend just by basing it all on my emotional play, like if I died last night it wouldve been better then grape haha...
Town-clearing really obvious townies who other people are trying to kill for terrible reasons is what I do.
I'm not surprised that Az doesn't want his scumbuddies to lock themselves into claims with an A/B claim. Scum are definitely planning a gambit/falseclaim of some sort; if I die, please be wary of such.
Oh please. How does someone gambit, based on that? And how is this just not a straightforward way to identify which townies were gunning to power themselves up, vs. which townies didn't mind being betrayed to power up better roles.
@Az, please explain why you think you have any credibility in this game right now.
Why do you think Tom/Jenna might be wolf/village? When Jenna came in, she noted her implicit trust in Tom, and then Tom took to her quite quickly. Why do you think Jenna would be village in that case?
I don't particularly care whether I have any credibility or not. My job is to play my hardest, and give my best information, regardless of whether anyone believes me. If the thread can't read me correctly just because the scum managed to use CFD panic to derail us from one of our good lynch targets (Iso) to an apparent bad one, well, I'm sure you're doing the best you can, but that's a misread. And if I'm playing my best townie game, which I feel is a pretty obvious one, and you can't read me, well, that's the breaks. But I can't allow that to deter me from trying to identify/kill them all, before they kill me first.
@Iso, did you gain 3 BP last Night or not? (Technically 2 BP if you lost one.)
why did you say 3?
Because besides next level WIFOM, if Az was telling the truth, his only smart move would be to betray. (It's the only guaranteed way not to lose a BP.) And Iso should've betrayed also, meaning he'd be at -1 BP. If Iso was at +2, then Az was lying. I figured Az wouldn't be dumb enough to incriminate himself but people make mistakes sometimes.
And yes, I can use my ability to determine if someone betrayed or allied.
again if both people betray, they both gain nothing... and why would Azreal straight up lie about his matchup choice... Thats almost suicide, I mean theres always the possibility they are both scum, but I town read Iso at this point so there is no way.
@LW, I'm slightly paranoid about Iso/Azreal being a thing, but not to the point where I'm going to entertain it right now. If they're both alive D3, I'll look into it more.
@Tom
@Azreal
Why do you both think Iso is still scum, I mean both our trains derailed, but also neither of us got lynched...
Like scum could just have easily gone with the flow with the Grape move, and get a townie lynched, and that would still leave some traction for my and Isos lynch today...
So what exactly were you implying with that post, then?
cause I didnt want to get more scum read, hours before phase change because you thought my idea was stupid... isnt that what, "adding fuel to the fire" means? but actually I do get why you guys think it had a connection to my role, b/c it may you believe that I had a threshold also, or needed more bp then I was saying...
I'm not surprised that Az doesn't want his scumbuddies to lock themselves into claims with an A/B claim. Scum are definitely planning a gambit/falseclaim of some sort; if I die, please be wary of such.
Oh please. How does someone gambit, based on that? And how is this just not a straightforward way to identify which townies were gunning to power themselves up, vs. which townies didn't mind being betrayed to power up better roles.
Because, gee, I dunno - maybe people allied and betrayed people they did/didn't trust? Kind of like how I betrayed you last Night because you're scum?
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
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and It was also to see who was paying attnetion to the game. and possibly clear someone. Like Shin is most def cleared to me, so i'll def be returning the favor tmr.
Vote Last Whisper
Not only did you elect NOT to prove your role, but you lied about it too!
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I betrayed last night. I think Last Whisper revealed that dawning is town, and allying would hurt her more than help.
Would like to lynch in iso/whisper aorn, but planning a re
readskimFor now vote: Jenna I believe this lynch will bring much needed answers
Choo choo
Edit: because its def changes the outcome of things, in sometimes good ways, but if you talk to much, it can be easily manipulated in a bad way*
(wanted to fix that sentence for clarity, and since we cant edit, I just quoted it again)
Ok, so DBS's roleblock is turned on then. Hopefully he'll get a chance to prove it toNight.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Please, everyone stop giving the scum additional information related to this. This could be used to further identify town power roles.
Now, if there are specific actions you feel are scummy, by all means, claim it. But let's not just have everyone blurt it out there. Please!
One of Iso's best talents, under either alignment, is figuring out town power roles (meaningful stare at DV's corpse). I have no doubt he's wielding that ability to the fullest extent, in favor of his team.
Because Iso knows how I operate as town, and that means it's likely going to come down to me, or him, battle to the death. Because I'm not letting go.
Please don't do that...He's not mafia. He's really not. See PBPA from yesterday.
You've got to be kidding.
Were you paying attention at all, yesterDay?
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{мы, тьма}
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
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Why do you think Tom/Jenna might be wolf/village? When Jenna came in, she noted her implicit trust in Tom, and then Tom took to her quite quickly. Why do you think Jenna would be village in that case?
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Because the order he put it in?
Also, why are you asking about my claim? Just curious.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Az betrayed me right back, so I didn't gain anything.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
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1. I wanted to see who was paying attention to the game
2. I wanted to use it to clear someone if possible
3. I didnt want to give points to possible scum, of course the exceptions last night wouldve been(D.V, and Grr)
because D.V said he would claim if I did that, and that I didnt want
and I think Grr said something around the same thing
and Dawn was a special case that I would betray just to give her the correct threshold to rb...
I've always been better at reading good players than new/bad ones...
But she still seems town to me and I dont like this excuse to push me if she flips as such
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Because besides next level WIFOM, if Az was telling the truth, his only smart move would be to betray. (It's the only guaranteed way not to lose a BP.) And Iso should've betrayed also, meaning he'd be at -1 BP. If Iso was at +2, then Az was lying. I figured Az wouldn't be dumb enough to incriminate himself but people make mistakes sometimes.
And yes, I can use my ability to determine if someone betrayed or allied.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Town-clearing really obvious townies who other people are trying to kill for terrible reasons is what I do.
Oh please. How does someone gambit, based on that? And how is this just not a straightforward way to identify which townies were gunning to power themselves up, vs. which townies didn't mind being betrayed to power up better roles.
I don't particularly care whether I have any credibility or not. My job is to play my hardest, and give my best information, regardless of whether anyone believes me. If the thread can't read me correctly just because the scum managed to use CFD panic to derail us from one of our good lynch targets (Iso) to an apparent bad one, well, I'm sure you're doing the best you can, but that's a misread. And if I'm playing my best townie game, which I feel is a pretty obvious one, and you can't read me, well, that's the breaks. But I can't allow that to deter me from trying to identify/kill them all, before they kill me first.
As far as CFD panic, it's not like you were the calm guiding hand here. Who do you think is scum on the wagon, besides Iso?
@LW, so your final answers for scum on the GF wagon are Azrael and Osieorb?
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
@DBS, why do you think you're still alive?
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
@Tom
@Azreal
Why do you both think Iso is still scum, I mean both our trains derailed, but also neither of us got lynched...
Like scum could just have easily gone with the flow with the Grape move, and get a townie lynched, and that would still leave some traction for my and Isos lynch today...
Which idea?
Because, gee, I dunno - maybe people allied and betrayed people they did/didn't trust? Kind of like how I betrayed you last Night because you're scum?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player