Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
Wait what? Did you think I said "get it up" as in get an erection? lmao
"Get up" meaning if they performed a night action. Have you never seen the role prostitute before? Basically, I'm just told if the target acted that night, but not any details about what they did, who they targeted, etc.
Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
Wait what? Did you think I said "get it up" as in get an erection? lmao
"Get up" meaning if they performed a night action. Have you never seen the role prostitute before? Basically, I'm just told if the target acted that night, but not any details about what they did, who they targeted, etc.
lmfao. did...I miss something?
but anyway. that sounds similar to our JoAT, don't you think?
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So...might be a silly question, but Kaba, have you asked the mod for any clarity on what your ability is supposed to do?
It's not real!!!!! Am I taking crazy pills here!?
no, it doesnt sound real at all...
Then why do people keep acting like it's not complete BS!?
its def not real, the only reason I could see him lying about his role, is 1. its a highly mafia role (the role he claimed looks better in the hands of mafia also, which is weird) 2. he is the bp taker...
Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
Wait what? Did you think I said "get it up" as in get an erection? lmao
"Get up" meaning if they performed a night action. Have you never seen the role prostitute before? Basically, I'm just told if the target acted that night, but not any details about what they did, who they targeted, etc.
no... and in ToS the prostitute is a mafia role blocker... but I think you are the mafia bp taker, and that you made up your roles actual ability... there is no way your role exists a long side the same alignment as Jenna...
Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
Wait what? Did you think I said "get it up" as in get an erection? lmao
"Get up" meaning if they performed a night action. Have you never seen the role prostitute before? Basically, I'm just told if the target acted that night, but not any details about what they did, who they targeted, etc.
This is what mafia wiki says the mafia role blocker is.
So...might be a silly question, but Kaba, have you asked the mod for any clarity on what your ability is supposed to do?
It's not real!!!!! Am I taking crazy pills here!?
no, it doesnt sound real at all...
Then why do people keep acting like it's not complete BS!?
its def not real, the only reason I could see him lying about his role, is 1. its a highly mafia role (the role he claimed looks better in the hands of mafia also, which is weird) 2. he is the bp taker...
lastly... wtf does he mean by, "when they get up"
from my understanding, it sounds like a tracker or watcher.
and if we're to believe Terry could've blocked the kill....
nobody had BP stolen, which means Kaba is the BP Taker who was blocked.
out of Shin/Dawn, only I could've blocked the steal.
if we believe everything everybody said, Kaba still lied about not being the BP Taker. we can argue scum made an elaborate gambit by missing a steal AND a kill, but that's really bad form on their part so I'll rule it out.
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@DBS, there's a chance the BP stealer couldn't use it twice due to it costing BP. If it cost 2 BP to remove/steal a BP, thatcould explain the lack of it.
@DBS, there's a chance the BP stealer couldn't use it twice due to it costing BP. If it cost 2 BP to remove/steal a BP, thatcould explain the lack of it.
if it's the equivalent of Last's role, it should cost only 1 BP.
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oh right, and since Jenna is down to only 1 BP... Last better give her BP in case we don't lynch the thief and she's paired up with scum. doublekill possibility.
hmmm I guess the thief pays 1 BP to steal 1 BP, thereby keeping his BP count the same.
giver pays 1 BP to give 1 BP, thereby cutting down by 2.
kinda sounds like how those roles work. thief doesn't do much to power their team I guess.. meaning they're self-sufficient or something.
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oh right, and since Jenna is down to only 1 BP... Last better give her BP in case we don't lynch the thief and she's paired up with scum. doublekill possibility.
hmmm I guess the thief pays 1 BP to steal 1 BP, thereby keeping his BP count the same.
giver pays 1 BP to give 1 BP, thereby cutting down by 2.
kinda sounds like how those roles work. thief doesn't do much to power their team I guess.. meaning they're self-sufficient or something.
hmm thanks for giving me the heads up... def wont let her die... kinda forgot she was that low lol
I sorta want to townread you for this. it's too terrible to be a bus attempt lool. on second thoughts.....can I shoot you? <3 don't worry, I'll give you the benefit of doubt even if Axel survives and Kaba flips scum. you're my initial townread afterall..and these posts are damn good.
and thanks for reviving my interest in this godforsaken game!
oh right, and since Jenna is down to only 1 BP... Last better give her BP in case we don't lynch the thief and she's paired up with scum. doublekill possibility.
hmmm I guess the thief pays 1 BP to steal 1 BP, thereby keeping his BP count the same.
giver pays 1 BP to give 1 BP, thereby cutting down by 2.
kinda sounds like how those roles work. thief doesn't do much to power their team I guess.. meaning they're self-sufficient or something.
hmm thanks for giving me the heads up... def wont let her die... kinda forgot she was that low lol
no problem. starting to see the use of your role now ~
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Who thinks JoeTerry is a Nurse, and who thinks JoeTerry is a Poisoner?
I think the latter.
I think hes the nurse until someone can explain a reasonable scenario where terry would need to claim
If Terry hadn't stood up, Kabazame would have certainly been the lynch. His claim exonerates Kabazame and to answer extent, himself. Kabazame tried to kill someone, and Terry poisoned Axelrod.
Who thinks JoeTerry is a Nurse, and who thinks JoeTerry is a Poisoner?
I think the latter.
I think hes the nurse until someone can explain a reasonable scenario where terry would need to claim
If Terry hadn't stood up, Kabazame would have certainly been the lynch. His claim exonerates Kabazame and to answer extent, himself. Kabazame tried to kill someone, and Terry poisoned Axelrod.
My finger missed. Yes, you betrayed Kabazame, who conveniently allied was you. Certainly seems like the fastest way for you two to coordinate giving you an extra kill.
so then you are saying, as scum, I would offer up an easy two for one to save my MIA scum buddy? I just can't see how, a player with your credentials cam even think that's a remotely possible scenerio.
Pretty easily.
I don't see how a player with your credentials can think that Kabazame is a boner-checker.
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@Kaba: Why on earth did you not claim when Jenna claimed tracker?
I am slightly confused here. What is the correlation between what Kaba claimed and what Jenna claimed that makes you think Kaba should have claimed back then?
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@Jenna just Ally, I will give u BP tonight... If you still die, that means you were betrayed and lost BP to the BP taker... Unless kaba flips bp taker then ur fine... And if the other person betrays you, then they are probably scum
@Kaba: Why on earth did you not claim when Jenna claimed tracker?
I am slightly confused here. What is the correlation between what Kaba claimed and what Jenna claimed that makes you think Kaba should have claimed back then?
He basically claimed a weak tracker role; do you not think those roles have overlap?
Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
Wait what? Did you think I said "get it up" as in get an erection? lmao
"Get up" meaning if they performed a night action. Have you never seen the role prostitute before? Basically, I'm just told if the target acted that night, but not any details about what they did, who they targeted, etc.
lmfao. did...I miss something?
but anyway. that sounds similar to our JoAT, don't you think?
My finger missed. Yes, you betrayed Kabazame, who conveniently allied was you. Certainly seems like the fastest way for you two to coordinate giving you an extra kill.
Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
Wait what? Did you think I said "get it up" as in get an erection? lmao
"Get up" meaning if they performed a night action. Have you never seen the role prostitute before? Basically, I'm just told if the target acted that night, but not any details about what they did, who they targeted, etc.
Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
Wait what? Did you think I said "get it up" as in get an erection? lmao
"Get up" meaning if they performed a night action. Have you never seen the role prostitute before? Basically, I'm just told if the target acted that night, but not any details about what they did, who they targeted, etc.
Please explain the wording of your "ability"
and like I said before, prostitute is a roleblocker from what I've read...
Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
Wait what? Did you think I said "get it up" as in get an erection? lmao
"Get up" meaning if they performed a night action. Have you never seen the role prostitute before? Basically, I'm just told if the target acted that night, but not any details about what they did, who they targeted, etc.
Please explain the wording of your "ability"
and like I said before, prostitute is a roleblocker from what I've read...
I need to hear what Kaba says on this. That's what I read too.
@ISO on a related noted, I've never seen a prostitute role in all of my games
Okay, here's my quick random thoughts about end-of day possibilities. Kaba is going to flip Town/Scum and then I am going to Live/Die.
(1) Kaba Town/I live: Perhaps the most unlikely scenario because it would mean the scum kill was not role-blocked, nor "delayed" meaning we have no idea what happened. I would say this would look good for Terry though, because I don't see him as scum coming out with that kind of claim when the scum had a gimme lynch in Kaba and also knowing that I was NOT going to die. Maybe it looks okay for DBS too, since that would be a very odd claim for a scum to have made. She couldn't really have lied about targeting Kaba, and why would the scum be targeting him in the first place?
(2) Kaba Town/I die: Worst case scenario. It does, however, support Terry's claim of "delaying" the Mafia kill, as there's no other explanation currently for it. Again, I would say that a Town Kaba supports a Town DBS read. I don't know why scum DBS targets Kaba.
(3) Kaba Scum/I live: Best case. Looking very good for DBS here as that's the only explanation for missing kill. Terry could be telling the truth. Or not, and would have been making a play to keep his scum-buddy alive for at least 1 more day. It would be an odd play, however, knowing that I was going to live. Not impossible, maybe less likely.
(4) Kaba Scum/I die: Right now this is what I'm guessing will happen. This clears up very little. I would say that odds favor DBS successfully blocking the kill and Terry just killing me with some poisoner-like ability, though it is possible that DBS did not block the kill, Terry actually did what he claimed, and us nailing Kaba is pure coincidence. DBS would not have to be Town here either, as she could have easily lied about targeting Kaba, or be lying about her abilities period.
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Kaba, just claim scum and get over it. Please enlighten me on how checking if someone gets it up is even remotely related to the game of mafia.
Wait what? Did you think I said "get it up" as in get an erection? lmao
"Get up" meaning if they performed a night action. Have you never seen the role prostitute before? Basically, I'm just told if the target acted that night, but not any details about what they did, who they targeted, etc.
lmfao. did...I miss something?
but anyway. that sounds similar to our JoAT, don't you think?
How is that even close to the same?
Killjoy claimed some kind of ability that looks at the action records of players, which he wanted to use on Phoenix to prove his claim. or maybe it was just a watcher ability? idk
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I want to lynch Shinichi/Kabazame/Terry/Phoenix or Tom
Throw Az in there with a chance of osi and that's basically how I feel about the game, though I think Shin might still be town.
hmmm I was thinking to take Shinichi off the list..
he could be tpr with how both of his AB choices benefited town - giving BP to the giver, and allowing the actions of a claimed roleblocker (yet scumread) to go through - both sound like poor moves for scum. I definitely recall him seeing my vig claim as a threat, which implies a possible tpr (maybe survivor). he brought up somehow 'knowing' how non-town roles look like, and was pushing Osie for it. moreover, his interactions are looking unaligned with most.
Terry might be off the list for being rather...transparent, in the recent commotion.
that'll leave me with: Kabazame/Phoenix/Tom
Osie is possible, but not Azrael - if Tom is scum they aren't on the same team.
it's also likely that Kaba's slot was used to perform the kill, and it was blocked.
liking this new angle~
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Okay, here's my quick random thoughts about end-of day possibilities. Kaba is going to flip Town/Scum and then I am going to Live/Die.
(1) Kaba Town/I live: Perhaps the most unlikely scenario because it would mean the scum kill was not role-blocked, nor "delayed" meaning we have no idea what happened. I would say this would look good for Terry though, because I don't see him as scum coming out with that kind of claim when the scum had a gimme lynch in Kaba and also knowing that I was NOT going to die. Maybe it looks okay for DBS too, since that would be a very odd claim for a scum to have made. She couldn't really have lied about targeting Kaba, and why would the scum be targeting him in the first place?
(2) Kaba Town/I die: Worst case scenario. It does, however, support Terry's claim of "delaying" the Mafia kill, as there's no other explanation currently for it. Again, I would say that a Town Kaba supports a Town DBS read. I don't know why scum DBS targets Kaba.
(3) Kaba Scum/I live: Best case. Looking very good for DBS here as that's the only explanation for missing kill. Terry could be telling the truth. Or not, and would have been making a play to keep his scum-buddy alive for at least 1 more day. It would be an odd play, however, knowing that I was going to live. Not impossible, maybe less likely.
(4) Kaba Scum/I die: Right now this is what I'm guessing will happen. This clears up very little. I would say that odds favor DBS successfully blocking the kill and Terry just killing me with some poisoner-like ability, though it is possible that DBS did not block the kill, Terry actually did what he claimed, and us nailing Kaba is pure coincidence. DBS would not have to be Town here either, as she could have easily lied about targeting Kaba, or be lying about her abilities period.
Thank you. This is the right kind of analysis. It would have meant jack coming from me. What do you think about waiting to see if you live or die today?
PS I still stand by the fact that if I was a poisoner, I would have never claimed to get Kaba off the hook and just let you die.
Okay, here's my quick random thoughts about end-of day possibilities. Kaba is going to flip Town/Scum and then I am going to Live/Die.
(1) Kaba Town/I live: Perhaps the most unlikely scenario because it would mean the scum kill was not role-blocked, nor "delayed" meaning we have no idea what happened. I would say this would look good for Terry though, because I don't see him as scum coming out with that kind of claim when the scum had a gimme lynch in Kaba and also knowing that I was NOT going to die. Maybe it looks okay for DBS too, since that would be a very odd claim for a scum to have made. She couldn't really have lied about targeting Kaba, and why would the scum be targeting him in the first place?
(2) Kaba Town/I die: Worst case scenario. It does, however, support Terry's claim of "delaying" the Mafia kill, as there's no other explanation currently for it. Again, I would say that a Town Kaba supports a Town DBS read. I don't know why scum DBS targets Kaba.
(3) Kaba Scum/I live: Best case. Looking very good for DBS here as that's the only explanation for missing kill. Terry could be telling the truth. Or not, and would have been making a play to keep his scum-buddy alive for at least 1 more day. It would be an odd play, however, knowing that I was going to live. Not impossible, maybe less likely.
(4) Kaba Scum/I die: Right now this is what I'm guessing will happen. This clears up very little. I would say that odds favor DBS successfully blocking the kill and Terry just killing me with some poisoner-like ability, though it is possible that DBS did not block the kill, Terry actually did what he claimed, and us nailing Kaba is pure coincidence. DBS would not have to be Town here either, as she could have easily lied about targeting Kaba, or be lying about her abilities period.
Thank you. This is the right kind of analysis. It would have meant jack coming from me. What do you think about waiting to see if you live or die today?
PS I still stand by the fact that if I was a poisoner, I would have never claimed to get Kaba off the hook and just let you die.
does this mean you're looking at the 3rd scenario as the most likely? you do know that scenario makes me town, right? why did you want me lynched then, if you say that is the right kind of analysis? the fact you wanted me lynched after using all those percentages didn't look very good.
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Okay, here's my quick random thoughts about end-of day possibilities. Kaba is going to flip Town/Scum and then I am going to Live/Die.
(1) Kaba Town/I live: Perhaps the most unlikely scenario because it would mean the scum kill was not role-blocked, nor "delayed" meaning we have no idea what happened. I would say this would look good for Terry though, because I don't see him as scum coming out with that kind of claim when the scum had a gimme lynch in Kaba and also knowing that I was NOT going to die. Maybe it looks okay for DBS too, since that would be a very odd claim for a scum to have made. She couldn't really have lied about targeting Kaba, and why would the scum be targeting him in the first place?
(2) Kaba Town/I die: Worst case scenario. It does, however, support Terry's claim of "delaying" the Mafia kill, as there's no other explanation currently for it. Again, I would say that a Town Kaba supports a Town DBS read. I don't know why scum DBS targets Kaba.
(3) Kaba Scum/I live: Best case. Looking very good for DBS here as that's the only explanation for missing kill. Terry could be telling the truth. Or not, and would have been making a play to keep his scum-buddy alive for at least 1 more day. It would be an odd play, however, knowing that I was going to live. Not impossible, maybe less likely.
(4) Kaba Scum/I die: Right now this is what I'm guessing will happen. This clears up very little. I would say that odds favor DBS successfully blocking the kill and Terry just killing me with some poisoner-like ability, though it is possible that DBS did not block the kill, Terry actually did what he claimed, and us nailing Kaba is pure coincidence. DBS would not have to be Town here either, as she could have easily lied about targeting Kaba, or be lying about her abilities period.
Thank you. This is the right kind of analysis. It would have meant jack coming from me. What do you think about waiting to see if you live or die today?
PS I still stand by the fact that if I was a poisoner, I would have never claimed to get Kaba off the hook and just let you die.
does this mean you're looking at the 3rd scenario as the most likely? you do know that scenario makes me town, right? why did you want me lynched then, if you say that is the right kind of analysis? the fact you wanted me lynched after using all those percentages didn't look very good.
I've explained this before. I wanted you lynched because you supposedly role blocked the NK and then voted a different person. It makes zero sense.
@Jenna just Ally, I will give u BP tonight... If you still die, that means you were betrayed and lost BP to the BP taker... Unless kaba flips bp taker then ur fine... And if the other person betrays you, then they are probably scum
Why do you believe it is more important that you receive 1 BP than it is for myself to receive 3 BP?
Okay, here's my quick random thoughts about end-of day possibilities. Kaba is going to flip Town/Scum and then I am going to Live/Die.
(1) Kaba Town/I live: Perhaps the most unlikely scenario because it would mean the scum kill was not role-blocked, nor "delayed" meaning we have no idea what happened. I would say this would look good for Terry though, because I don't see him as scum coming out with that kind of claim when the scum had a gimme lynch in Kaba and also knowing that I was NOT going to die. Maybe it looks okay for DBS too, since that would be a very odd claim for a scum to have made. She couldn't really have lied about targeting Kaba, and why would the scum be targeting him in the first place?
(2) Kaba Town/I die: Worst case scenario. It does, however, support Terry's claim of "delaying" the Mafia kill, as there's no other explanation currently for it. Again, I would say that a Town Kaba supports a Town DBS read. I don't know why scum DBS targets Kaba.
(3) Kaba Scum/I live: Best case. Looking very good for DBS here as that's the only explanation for missing kill. Terry could be telling the truth. Or not, and would have been making a play to keep his scum-buddy alive for at least 1 more day. It would be an odd play, however, knowing that I was going to live. Not impossible, maybe less likely.
(4) Kaba Scum/I die: Right now this is what I'm guessing will happen. This clears up very little. I would say that odds favor DBS successfully blocking the kill and Terry just killing me with some poisoner-like ability, though it is possible that DBS did not block the kill, Terry actually did what he claimed, and us nailing Kaba is pure coincidence. DBS would not have to be Town here either, as she could have easily lied about targeting Kaba, or be lying about her abilities period.
Thank you. This is the right kind of analysis. It would have meant jack coming from me. What do you think about waiting to see if you live or die today?
PS I still stand by the fact that if I was a poisoner, I would have never claimed to get Kaba off the hook and just let you die.
does this mean you're looking at the 3rd scenario as the most likely? you do know that scenario makes me town, right? why did you want me lynched then, if you say that is the right kind of analysis? the fact you wanted me lynched after using all those percentages didn't look very good.
I've explained this before. I wanted you lynched because you supposedly role blocked the NK and then voted a different person. It makes zero sense.
She just did it again. It seems normal for her. I assume this means you believe she's town now.
@Jenna just Ally, I will give u BP tonight... If you still die, that means you were betrayed and lost BP to the BP taker... Unless kaba flips bp taker then ur fine... And if the other person betrays you, then they are probably scum
Why do you believe it is more important that you receive 1 BP than it is for myself to receive 3 BP?
Okay, here's my quick random thoughts about end-of day possibilities. Kaba is going to flip Town/Scum and then I am going to Live/Die.
(1) Kaba Town/I live: Perhaps the most unlikely scenario because it would mean the scum kill was not role-blocked, nor "delayed" meaning we have no idea what happened. I would say this would look good for Terry though, because I don't see him as scum coming out with that kind of claim when the scum had a gimme lynch in Kaba and also knowing that I was NOT going to die. Maybe it looks okay for DBS too, since that would be a very odd claim for a scum to have made. She couldn't really have lied about targeting Kaba, and why would the scum be targeting him in the first place?
(2) Kaba Town/I die: Worst case scenario. It does, however, support Terry's claim of "delaying" the Mafia kill, as there's no other explanation currently for it. Again, I would say that a Town Kaba supports a Town DBS read. I don't know why scum DBS targets Kaba.
(3) Kaba Scum/I live: Best case. Looking very good for DBS here as that's the only explanation for missing kill. Terry could be telling the truth. Or not, and would have been making a play to keep his scum-buddy alive for at least 1 more day. It would be an odd play, however, knowing that I was going to live. Not impossible, maybe less likely.
(4) Kaba Scum/I die: Right now this is what I'm guessing will happen. This clears up very little. I would say that odds favor DBS successfully blocking the kill and Terry just killing me with some poisoner-like ability, though it is possible that DBS did not block the kill, Terry actually did what he claimed, and us nailing Kaba is pure coincidence. DBS would not have to be Town here either, as she could have easily lied about targeting Kaba, or be lying about her abilities period.
Thank you. This is the right kind of analysis. It would have meant jack coming from me. What do you think about waiting to see if you live or die today?
PS I still stand by the fact that if I was a poisoner, I would have never claimed to get Kaba off the hook and just let you die.
does this mean you're looking at the 3rd scenario as the most likely? you do know that scenario makes me town, right? why did you want me lynched then, if you say that is the right kind of analysis? the fact you wanted me lynched after using all those percentages didn't look very good.
I've explained this before. I wanted you lynched because you supposedly role blocked the NK and then voted a different person. It makes zero sense.
I see.
there are few factors to consider that made me unsure of Kaba, especially when he wasn't present to defend himself. I ultimately looked to roleblock the BP Taker, since there was no confirmation of blocking NKs. not into dichotomy assumptions on give/take BP roles, so I wanted to see if the thief would out themselves as 'town'. Kaba appears and doesn't claim thief, so I'm more settled with him as scum.
Shinichi hasn't been pro-town no matter how you look at it: rolefishes like crazy, knows how non-town roles look like, has Town Manipulator for a title, and his ability isn't affected by the BP system - with redirecting to use up bonus BP. I don't see how it makes no sense to want him lynched, with all the details I've laid out REPEATEDLY. if his ability could really help town, as he mentioned somewhere in D2, then I'm inclined to think he's on our side even as tpr.
not sure if I mentioned this before(?) but I don't rely on mechanics. even if I supposedly roleblocked the NK, it doesn't affect my initial decision. you should see how bad my reads turn whenever massclaims happen lmao. I take mechanics with a bit of salt and sugar and lots more salt. oh but of course, I want to practice playing mechanically too - hence my speculation wall on mechanics during D2.
soooo yeah, my reliance on mechanics is nowhere near 'godlike' as someone tried to paint it. I don't witchhunt either, for clarification, but as long as they're provable or ignorable I try to leave it out of my field of view as much as I can~
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not sure if I want Kaba to be hammered away early. and yeah, maybe this weird voting pattern is kinda normal for me lol.
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I think she says you looking to ally (with whoever you pair up with) while using up your ability will result in unnecessarily losing BP, when she could just as easily bump her BP up by 3 with betray-only.
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Okay, here's my quick random thoughts about end-of day possibilities. Kaba is going to flip Town/Scum and then I am going to Live/Die.
(1) Kaba Town/I live: Perhaps the most unlikely scenario because it would mean the scum kill was not role-blocked, nor "delayed" meaning we have no idea what happened. I would say this would look good for Terry though, because I don't see him as scum coming out with that kind of claim when the scum had a gimme lynch in Kaba and also knowing that I was NOT going to die. Maybe it looks okay for DBS too, since that would be a very odd claim for a scum to have made. She couldn't really have lied about targeting Kaba, and why would the scum be targeting him in the first place?
(2) Kaba Town/I die: Worst case scenario. It does, however, support Terry's claim of "delaying" the Mafia kill, as there's no other explanation currently for it. Again, I would say that a Town Kaba supports a Town DBS read. I don't know why scum DBS targets Kaba.
(3) Kaba Scum/I live: Best case. Looking very good for DBS here as that's the only explanation for missing kill. Terry could be telling the truth. Or not, and would have been making a play to keep his scum-buddy alive for at least 1 more day. It would be an odd play, however, knowing that I was going to live. Not impossible, maybe less likely.
(4) Kaba Scum/I die: Right now this is what I'm guessing will happen. This clears up very little. I would say that odds favor DBS successfully blocking the kill and Terry just killing me with some poisoner-like ability, though it is possible that DBS did not block the kill, Terry actually did what he claimed, and us nailing Kaba is pure coincidence. DBS would not have to be Town here either, as she could have easily lied about targeting Kaba, or be lying about her abilities period.
Thank you. This is the right kind of analysis. It would have meant jack coming from me. What do you think about waiting to see if you live or die today?
PS I still stand by the fact that if I was a poisoner, I would have never claimed to get Kaba off the hook and just let you die.
does this mean you're looking at the 3rd scenario as the most likely? you do know that scenario makes me town, right? why did you want me lynched then, if you say that is the right kind of analysis? the fact you wanted me lynched after using all those percentages didn't look very good.
I've explained this before. I wanted you lynched because you supposedly role blocked the NK and then voted a different person. It makes zero sense.
I see.
there are few factors to consider that made me unsure of Kaba, especially when he wasn't present to defend himself. I ultimately looked to roleblock the BP Taker, since there was no confirmation of blocking NKs. not into dichotomy assumptions on give/take BP roles, so I wanted to see if the thief would out themselves as 'town'. Kaba appears and doesn't claim thief, so I'm more settled with him as scum.
Shinichi hasn't been pro-town no matter how you look at it: rolefishes like crazy, knows how non-town roles look like, has Town Manipulator for a title, and his ability isn't affected by the BP system - with redirecting to use up bonus BP. I don't see how it makes no sense to want him lynched, with all the details I've laid out REPEATEDLY. if his ability could really help town, as he mentioned somewhere in D2, then I'm inclined to think he's on our side even as tpr.
not sure if I mentioned this before(?) but I don't rely on mechanics. even if I supposedly roleblocked the NK, it doesn't affect my initial decision. you should see how bad my reads turn whenever massclaims happen lmao. I take mechanics with a bit of salt and sugar and lots more salt. oh but of course, I want to practice playing mechanically too - hence my speculation wall on mechanics during D2.
soooo yeah, my reliance on mechanics is nowhere near 'godlike' as someone tried to paint it. I don't witchhunt either, for clarification, but as long as they're provable or ignorable I try to leave it out of my field of view as much as I can~
1. When you didn't vote him, you shouldn't have known he wasn't present.
2. Tell me more about Shin's Role Fishing, because I think you were the one suggesting a mass claim.
3. I'm not really following your line on mechanics here. I'm pretty sure your vote on Shin was based on Mechanics first and foremost.
Okay, here's my quick random thoughts about end-of day possibilities. Kaba is going to flip Town/Scum and then I am going to Live/Die.
(1) Kaba Town/I live: Perhaps the most unlikely scenario because it would mean the scum kill was not role-blocked, nor "delayed" meaning we have no idea what happened. I would say this would look good for Terry though, because I don't see him as scum coming out with that kind of claim when the scum had a gimme lynch in Kaba and also knowing that I was NOT going to die. Maybe it looks okay for DBS too, since that would be a very odd claim for a scum to have made. She couldn't really have lied about targeting Kaba, and why would the scum be targeting him in the first place?
(2) Kaba Town/I die: Worst case scenario. It does, however, support Terry's claim of "delaying" the Mafia kill, as there's no other explanation currently for it. Again, I would say that a Town Kaba supports a Town DBS read. I don't know why scum DBS targets Kaba.
(3) Kaba Scum/I live: Best case. Looking very good for DBS here as that's the only explanation for missing kill. Terry could be telling the truth. Or not, and would have been making a play to keep his scum-buddy alive for at least 1 more day. It would be an odd play, however, knowing that I was going to live. Not impossible, maybe less likely.
(4) Kaba Scum/I die: Right now this is what I'm guessing will happen. This clears up very little. I would say that odds favor DBS successfully blocking the kill and Terry just killing me with some poisoner-like ability, though it is possible that DBS did not block the kill, Terry actually did what he claimed, and us nailing Kaba is pure coincidence. DBS would not have to be Town here either, as she could have easily lied about targeting Kaba, or be lying about her abilities period.
Thank you. This is the right kind of analysis. It would have meant jack coming from me. What do you think about waiting to see if you live or die today?
PS I still stand by the fact that if I was a poisoner, I would have never claimed to get Kaba off the hook and just let you die.
does this mean you're looking at the 3rd scenario as the most likely? you do know that scenario makes me town, right? why did you want me lynched then, if you say that is the right kind of analysis? the fact you wanted me lynched after using all those percentages didn't look very good.
I've explained this before. I wanted you lynched because you supposedly role blocked the NK and then voted a different person. It makes zero sense.
H...have you paid attention to anything dawn has done all game?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
So, realistically I'm going to keep low-quantity posting this whole game. I'll try and engage on newer stuff, but I've all but given up on rereading. This will limit my ability to fully engage, but since others appear to also have issues slogging back through, maybe this isn't as bad as I originally expected.
Why did you include "Tbh" and "kinda" in your agreement with Cythare? Or more specifically:
1. What reason do you have for stating that you are being honest?
2. What would compel you to be dishonest in this scenario?
3. What about Cythare's statements caused you to only "kinda" agree instead of fully agree?
I agree with your line of thought here - someone who used to play here (RIP Seppel) would always go after players that used "honestly" or "tbh", because the fact that the player felt the need to qualify a given statement with something stating honesty directly implies that they've been less than forthcoming elsewhere or at least are in a less-than-honest mindset.
At this point, my eyes have basically glazed over, and I feel that the best way to resolve the continuing legibility issues are to lynch Shinichi. Doing this:
1) Resolves the Shinichi/dawningbluesky double RB "dichotomy" (which may not actually be a dichotomy)
2) Resolves the ongoing Infinity Post War
3) Allows us to resolve (1) in a way that doesn't muck up resolving what's going on with RealStinkyJoeTerry and dawningbluesky regarding what happened to the NK last night.
4) From the percentage of the game I've read, a lot of his posts are him v dbs, and this is a relatively straightforward way for scum to provide a large quantity of content and is also self-involved which is a scumtell
5) Shinichi seems to be on several people's suspect list
I'm also fine just being lynched at this point so I don't have to keep reading, but I'd rather we actually win the game.
Vote Shinichi
But am i scum though?
1.U wanna solve it, or lynch scum cause only one will happen
2.So because i post alot i am scum?
3.How does lynching me change any of that?
4.So again why in this situation am i scum?
5. 3-4 i would say
I think you are, but going down the line.
1. This is WIFOM, pure and simple.
2. No, this is largely unrelated, but you have to recognize that your post war with DBS has made this game illegible.
3. Because it clears up you/dbs to a degree, and DBS doesn't get lynched while we're waiting to see the results of whether Terry or DBS is the one who prevented/delayed it.
4. How is spending a lot of your posts talking about yourself scummy? :notsure:
5. Ok cool
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Also fine with Kabazame. Still also fine with Shinichi, but I'll admit part of that is so that there just aren't so many damn posts.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Okay, here's my quick random thoughts about end-of day possibilities. Kaba is going to flip Town/Scum and then I am going to Live/Die.
(1) Kaba Town/I live: Perhaps the most unlikely scenario because it would mean the scum kill was not role-blocked, nor "delayed" meaning we have no idea what happened. I would say this would look good for Terry though, because I don't see him as scum coming out with that kind of claim when the scum had a gimme lynch in Kaba and also knowing that I was NOT going to die. Maybe it looks okay for DBS too, since that would be a very odd claim for a scum to have made. She couldn't really have lied about targeting Kaba, and why would the scum be targeting him in the first place?
(2) Kaba Town/I die: Worst case scenario. It does, however, support Terry's claim of "delaying" the Mafia kill, as there's no other explanation currently for it. Again, I would say that a Town Kaba supports a Town DBS read. I don't know why scum DBS targets Kaba.
(3) Kaba Scum/I live: Best case. Looking very good for DBS here as that's the only explanation for missing kill. Terry could be telling the truth. Or not, and would have been making a play to keep his scum-buddy alive for at least 1 more day. It would be an odd play, however, knowing that I was going to live. Not impossible, maybe less likely.
(4) Kaba Scum/I die: Right now this is what I'm guessing will happen. This clears up very little. I would say that odds favor DBS successfully blocking the kill and Terry just killing me with some poisoner-like ability, though it is possible that DBS did not block the kill, Terry actually did what he claimed, and us nailing Kaba is pure coincidence. DBS would not have to be Town here either, as she could have easily lied about targeting Kaba, or be lying about her abilities period.
ok, based on the assumption that several players are making here please think constructively about the dynamics of the scum team where I am a poisoner and kaba is a BP stealer (which is what certain people pushing me are postulating. Which role is more valuable? I think most people would answer poisoner, so why would the poisoner try to protect the inferior role of BP stealer? On top of that a caught scum lurker like Kaba?
1. When you didn't vote him, you shouldn't have known he wasn't present.
2. Tell me more about Shin's Role Fishing, because I think you were the one suggesting a mass claim.
3. I'm not really following your line on mechanics here. I'm pretty sure your vote on Shin was based on Mechanics first and foremost.
1. while posting my RB decision, I ended it with a vote on Shinichi. Kaba is guaranteed to not be able to give an answer before I voted. his absence was further apparent, with the way you called him out and he wasn't around.
2. Shin said my 'softing a pr' is scummy, when all I said was that town will never want to lynch me. later put Last at L2 to see his claim, then allied him as townread proof - blatant evidence of rolefishing. I advocated massclaiming only Today, since the majority of important claims are in scum's databanks already.
3. blatant rolefishing isn't worth overlooking, moreso when Shin brought up his claim/suspicions after hammering a townread. tell me, is that based on behavior, or mechanics? he kept bringing up mechanics (poor claiming), as a reason to vote me, so I ended up returning the favor endlessly~ is it wrong on my part? I always return the favor! ..... I'm inclined to believe he is not town. be it scum or tpr is the question.
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@Terry
may I ask why so concerned about how we see you? you should be scumhunting, not validating yourself. maybe you're scum afterall.
and with the way you asked Axel on the 'poisoner' bit, I guess you ARE the poisoner, and looking for a way to talk yourself out of it when it happens. looks likely.
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@Terry
may I ask why so concerned about how we see you? you should be scumhunting, not validating yourself. maybe you're scum afterall.
and with the way you asked Axel on the 'poisoner' bit, I guess you ARE the poisoner, and looking for a way to talk yourself out of it when it happens. looks likely.
Did you not notice my press on Kaba recently? Not just my vote, but I'm still waiting to hear back from him about the wording of his ability.
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Wait what? Did you think I said "get it up" as in get an erection? lmao
"Get up" meaning if they performed a night action. Have you never seen the role prostitute before? Basically, I'm just told if the target acted that night, but not any details about what they did, who they targeted, etc.
but anyway. that sounds similar to our JoAT, don't you think?
Be grateful, always."
lastly... wtf does he mean by, "when they get up"
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roleblocker
and if we're to believe Terry could've blocked the kill....
nobody had BP stolen, which means Kaba is the BP Taker who was blocked.
out of Shin/Dawn, only I could've blocked the steal.
if we believe everything everybody said, Kaba still lied about not being the BP Taker. we can argue scum made an elaborate gambit by missing a steal AND a kill, but that's really bad form on their part so I'll rule it out.
Be grateful, always."
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Be grateful, always."
hmmm I guess the thief pays 1 BP to steal 1 BP, thereby keeping his BP count the same.
giver pays 1 BP to give 1 BP, thereby cutting down by 2.
kinda sounds like how those roles work. thief doesn't do much to power their team I guess.. meaning they're self-sufficient or something.
Be grateful, always."
I sorta want to townread you for this. it's too terrible to be a bus attempt lool. on second thoughts.....can I shoot you? <3 don't worry, I'll give you the benefit of doubt even if Axel survives and Kaba flips scum. you're my initial townread afterall..and these posts are damn good.
and thanks for reviving my interest in this godforsaken game!
no problem. starting to see the use of your role now ~
Be grateful, always."
Kabazame (5): TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, LnGrrrR, osieorb18, Lastwhisper, Iso
Azrael (4): tomsloger, Phoenix-Fire, Jenna Tolaria, Cythare
tomsloger (1): Azrael
dawningbluesky (1): Shinichi
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry (1): dawningbluesky
Not Voting (2): Kabazame, Axelrod
With 14 alive, it’s 8 to lynch. Deadline is Wednesday, December 13th at 11.59 pm EST.
Let me know if you're okay with me betraying you.
Pretty easily.
I don't see how a player with your credentials can think that Kabazame is a boner-checker.
Damn, you caught me. I guess the jig's up.
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what even is the point of this post if not to coach your scumbuddy
Throw Az in there with a chance of osi and that's basically how I feel about the game, though I think Shin might still be town.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@ISO on a related noted, I've never seen a prostitute role in all of my games
(1) Kaba Town/I live: Perhaps the most unlikely scenario because it would mean the scum kill was not role-blocked, nor "delayed" meaning we have no idea what happened. I would say this would look good for Terry though, because I don't see him as scum coming out with that kind of claim when the scum had a gimme lynch in Kaba and also knowing that I was NOT going to die. Maybe it looks okay for DBS too, since that would be a very odd claim for a scum to have made. She couldn't really have lied about targeting Kaba, and why would the scum be targeting him in the first place?
(2) Kaba Town/I die: Worst case scenario. It does, however, support Terry's claim of "delaying" the Mafia kill, as there's no other explanation currently for it. Again, I would say that a Town Kaba supports a Town DBS read. I don't know why scum DBS targets Kaba.
(3) Kaba Scum/I live: Best case. Looking very good for DBS here as that's the only explanation for missing kill. Terry could be telling the truth. Or not, and would have been making a play to keep his scum-buddy alive for at least 1 more day. It would be an odd play, however, knowing that I was going to live. Not impossible, maybe less likely.
(4) Kaba Scum/I die: Right now this is what I'm guessing will happen. This clears up very little. I would say that odds favor DBS successfully blocking the kill and Terry just killing me with some poisoner-like ability, though it is possible that DBS did not block the kill, Terry actually did what he claimed, and us nailing Kaba is pure coincidence. DBS would not have to be Town here either, as she could have easily lied about targeting Kaba, or be lying about her abilities period.
Be grateful, always."
hmmm I was thinking to take Shinichi off the list..
he could be tpr with how both of his AB choices benefited town - giving BP to the giver, and allowing the actions of a claimed roleblocker (yet scumread) to go through - both sound like poor moves for scum. I definitely recall him seeing my vig claim as a threat, which implies a possible tpr (maybe survivor). he brought up somehow 'knowing' how non-town roles look like, and was pushing Osie for it. moreover, his interactions are looking unaligned with most.
Terry might be off the list for being rather...transparent, in the recent commotion.
that'll leave me with: Kabazame/Phoenix/Tom
Osie is possible, but not Azrael - if Tom is scum they aren't on the same team.
it's also likely that Kaba's slot was used to perform the kill, and it was blocked.
liking this new angle~
Vote: tomsloger
Be grateful, always."
PS I still stand by the fact that if I was a poisoner, I would have never claimed to get Kaba off the hook and just let you die.
Be grateful, always."
I see.
there are few factors to consider that made me unsure of Kaba, especially when he wasn't present to defend himself. I ultimately looked to roleblock the BP Taker, since there was no confirmation of blocking NKs. not into dichotomy assumptions on give/take BP roles, so I wanted to see if the thief would out themselves as 'town'. Kaba appears and doesn't claim thief, so I'm more settled with him as scum.
Shinichi hasn't been pro-town no matter how you look at it: rolefishes like crazy, knows how non-town roles look like, has Town Manipulator for a title, and his ability isn't affected by the BP system - with redirecting to use up bonus BP. I don't see how it makes no sense to want him lynched, with all the details I've laid out REPEATEDLY. if his ability could really help town, as he mentioned somewhere in D2, then I'm inclined to think he's on our side even as tpr.
not sure if I mentioned this before(?) but I don't rely on mechanics. even if I supposedly roleblocked the NK, it doesn't affect my initial decision. you should see how bad my reads turn whenever massclaims happen lmao. I take mechanics with a bit of salt and sugar
and lots more salt. oh but of course, I want to practice playing mechanically too - hence my speculation wall on mechanics during D2.soooo yeah, my reliance on mechanics is nowhere near 'godlike' as someone tried to paint it. I don't witchhunt either, for clarification, but as long as they're provable or ignorable I try to leave it out of my field of view as much as I can~
Be grateful, always."
not sure if I want Kaba to be hammered away early. and yeah, maybe this weird voting pattern is kinda normal for me lol.
@Last
I think she says you looking to ally (with whoever you pair up with) while using up your ability will result in unnecessarily losing BP, when she could just as easily bump her BP up by 3 with betray-only.
Be grateful, always."
2. Tell me more about Shin's Role Fishing, because I think you were the one suggesting a mass claim.
3. I'm not really following your line on mechanics here. I'm pretty sure your vote on Shin was based on Mechanics first and foremost.
H...have you paid attention to anything dawn has done all game?
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
1. This is WIFOM, pure and simple.
2. No, this is largely unrelated, but you have to recognize that your post war with DBS has made this game illegible.
3. Because it clears up you/dbs to a degree, and DBS doesn't get lynched while we're waiting to see the results of whether Terry or DBS is the one who prevented/delayed it.
4. How is spending a lot of your posts talking about yourself scummy? :notsure:
5. Ok cool
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Also fine with Kabazame. Still also fine with Shinichi, but I'll admit part of that is so that there just aren't so many damn posts.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2. Shin said my 'softing a pr' is scummy, when all I said was that town will never want to lynch me. later put Last at L2 to see his claim, then allied him as townread proof - blatant evidence of rolefishing. I advocated massclaiming only Today, since the majority of important claims are in scum's databanks already.
3. blatant rolefishing isn't worth overlooking, moreso when Shin brought up his claim/suspicions after hammering a townread. tell me, is that based on behavior, or mechanics? he kept bringing up mechanics (poor claiming), as a reason to vote me, so I ended up returning the favor endlessly~ is it wrong on my part? I always return the favor! ..... I'm inclined to believe he is not town. be it scum or tpr is the question.
Be grateful, always."
may I ask why so concerned about how we see you? you should be scumhunting, not validating yourself. maybe you're scum afterall.
and with the way you asked Axel on the 'poisoner' bit, I guess you ARE the poisoner, and looking for a way to talk yourself out of it when it happens. looks likely.
Be grateful, always."