I've had enough of your role fishing. Stop now and claim your results. I'm deliberately not answering whether to not I visited DV last night because this is me calling BS on Jenna.
Prove your role...
Guess you must be scum then
I disagree. I think he's town.
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I'm right because the evidence in-thread supports it
I think I will lose because my team isn't listening to me
I already caught the mafia
me surviving over Grapefruit is useful because I caught the scum and he didn't
there is "right" before the game is over because the scum are a non-fluctuating value that was pre-determined as the game began and if you don't think the scum are scum then you're wrong
if you ARE right, then why didn't we lynch mafia instead? just because you're right in lynching town doesn't mean you're otherworldly right, since even mafia knows that.
you need to lynch and flip mafia to count as having caught mafia. all talk and no bite. and hey, even mafia knows their own members so...you could've easily known that.
I'm trying to re-assess the situation. I daresay there's a chance I could be wrong. so yes, there is no right until the game ends. you haven't exactly tried to make sense of things and the flip, only wanting to prove that you know someone will flip town. aren't you just willing us to lose?
We didn't lynch mafia because we didn't lynch Az when I said we should have. I have a single vote. I can't put 9 votes on a single player. You caused us to completely waste half of Day 1 by playing coy with your claim, so it's no wonder we had a last-second lynch. And you say I'M willing us to lose? No. If this town wants to win, it will follow me to the ends of the earth or fail. There is no in-between.
I love this post from iso, i honestly trust him enough plus my own read on az to say we should just lock a lynch on him.
@Phraze Last/Terry/Killjoy should all be town for that early D1 tie. all 3 of them gained focus that never actually broke down even after dozens of pages later.
Can you explain this again? I want to better understand how you came to this conclusion.
also why do you town read Tom?
you sure forget a lot lol
scum usually focus on finding faults in the town. the more pressure someone receives, the more likely they're going to make mistakes, and scum will capitalize on that mistake. the scumteam just has to tilt the board in their favor, whenever town tries to move in the right direction. finding fault can seem like scumhunting, but it is more sinister and controlling.
this kind of buildup was what happened since that early D1 tie. the town's focus was heavily shifted towards Last, for being scummy, and Dawn, for fooling around. Killjoy was questioned by Dawn, and his absence was capitalized on - Osie and others noted that he hardly posted in the thread. I think another reason Killjoy was pushed was...his scumread on Osie? that seemed to be the main reason Killjoy was scumread: for scumreading Osie - the D1 tie was just the starting point. the easiest mislynch candidates were Dawn/Last, not Killjoy, which means Killjoy must have been onto something since he was ANYTHING but an easy mislynch.
as for Tom, his thinking process is clear. I don't see any hidden agenda or caution in his actions that are indicative of being scum. he doesn't have that 'sinister and controlling' 'trying to find fault' vibe. I'm pretty sure he's town.
also you asked me before why I scum read tom, I want to do an Iso on him, to fully understand him, but I just have this feeling that he is scum... Like He defense of Jenna felt like it came from someone that already knew he would flip town, which obviously we dont know that, but I'm just saying thats how it felt.
and I dont like attacking people for not being able to be active at certain times, but again the way he appeared at the EoD is just so uggh...
and why did he get so mad when I associated him with Jenna, like his tone did a 180... lol
I mean maybe ill move him up to neutral, but he isnt getting at town read from, and regardless of if he believes his vote on me isnt omgus, it totally is... lol
What you didnt learn is how ineffective meta is i Guess. Now only is that game different, the people are different, the pace is different, the phase length is different. Shall I go on? Meta is ineffective.
oh? then tell me what you were implying when you quoted Last's reply to me and said, "I can see that". you were referencing one of our old games, right? that means you ARE relying on meta.
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Jenna, you better make this good and make it quick because I'm about to burn you in the unholy fires of my stank. Seriously no more waiting and role fishing. I'm furious that you've even got this much response from people who should know better than to answer your role fishing. Like seriously! You are waiting for:
1. Me (I explicitly said I'm not answering you)
2. Kaba (Who hasn't posted since you claimed)
3. Meggido's replacement (COME ON MAN!)
4. Axelrod (Who said he allied with DV, which would be stupid if he was also killing him)
It's go time Jenna! ME and YOU! Let's go!
Explain your Axelrod reasoning. This I am most curious about.
Well, duh... If Axelrod was scum and they planned on killing DV, he would have betrayed and got 3 BP not 1 for Allying.
you realize that could've easily been a lie, right? we only have Axel's word about Allying, but did it happen or not is the question.
I've had enough of your role fishing. Stop now and claim your results. I'm deliberately not answering whether to not I visited DV last night because this is me calling BS on Jenna.
Prove your role...
Guess you must be scum then
I disagree. I think he's town.
No reason not to respond to jenna post properly then.
I'm right because the evidence in-thread supports it
I think I will lose because my team isn't listening to me
I already caught the mafia
me surviving over Grapefruit is useful because I caught the scum and he didn't
there is "right" before the game is over because the scum are a non-fluctuating value that was pre-determined as the game began and if you don't think the scum are scum then you're wrong
if you ARE right, then why didn't we lynch mafia instead? just because you're right in lynching town doesn't mean you're otherworldly right, since even mafia knows that.
you need to lynch and flip mafia to count as having caught mafia. all talk and no bite. and hey, even mafia knows their own members so...you could've easily known that.
I'm trying to re-assess the situation. I daresay there's a chance I could be wrong. so yes, there is no right until the game ends. you haven't exactly tried to make sense of things and the flip, only wanting to prove that you know someone will flip town. aren't you just willing us to lose?
We didn't lynch mafia because we didn't lynch Az when I said we should have. I have a single vote. I can't put 9 votes on a single player. You caused us to completely waste half of Day 1 by playing coy with your claim, so it's no wonder we had a last-second lynch. And you say I'M willing us to lose? No. If this town wants to win, it will follow me to the ends of the earth or fail. There is no in-between.
Yeah, right. Iso, the thing is, you're acting scummy. And you ought to understand that. You've been (semi)apologetic you haven't been able to be as active in this game as in past games, but this idea that you've been such an amazing Townie, that you have caught all the scum, and all we have to do is follow you, is completely laughable. And I just have a hard time seeing Town you saying it with a straight face. It sounds like scum bluster. Which is not unlike what Az is doing. Imagine that.
She knows she's caught. If no one else has figured out why, I'm disappointed and if you have figured out why and you're letting me have the glory of roasting her alive... THANK YOU!
I have not figured out why she is "caught" specifically.
I am wondering if she is completely BSing, however. Because of this:
also Shinichi
I clearly said I'd betray so why in the hell did you ally???
D.V and grrr were probably the only ones I wouldnt have betrayed, but of course I wasnt gunna say that....
I had some trust in my own god damn brother lol, but oh well :/. You just made it alot harder for me to use my ability which could really help town in the long run.
I give u BP, no worry lmao
oh that's where I saw someone give Shinichi BP
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In which she appears to be claiming that she saw "someone" give Shin" BP last night, when that is not what happened. It looks like she possibly misread/misunderstood the conversation?
I suppose Axel could have lied, but I'm town reading him and that combined with the possibility of not betraying the person you're about to murder makes it seem pretty unlikely that he murdered him.
that could've been what he wants us to think... I remember he was pushy about wanting to know whether roleblocking works on the nightkill, or have me lynched otherwise - scum could've wanted to keep the vig to shoot town, but still be unable to stop their kills. the way he reacted to my fullclaim was different from yours, since you calculated how to use the vigshot, but he was concerned about the effectiveness of roleblocking on a nightkill.
Once again, DBS, you have me mixed up with someone else.
It's okay. You post so much it must be hard to keep track.
I want Jenna to spill whatever it is. I'm highly skeptical, but I would love her to go one-on-one with someone. I will state, for whatever it is worth, that I did nothing to DV last night (except the Ally/Ally thing, which I don't think would count as targeting anyway).
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Yeah I'd buy dawning's meta arguments a lot more if shin thought he was town too
but first, I would like to know why you trust Shinichi. he's not been scumhunting, and doing only as much as Megiddo does - which is just churning things before disappearing. mind explaining?
i think mentioning shin and megs in the same sentence is a travesty
then can I compare Shin with Osie? either way I don't see Shin accomplishing anything, other than justifying his vote on me with the little time he's here. he should be questioning more players, but he's focused on me while shading Last.
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What you didnt learn is how ineffective meta is i Guess. Now only is that game different, the people are different, the pace is different, the phase length is different. Shall I go on? Meta is ineffective.
oh? then tell me what you were implying when you quoted Last's reply to me and said, "I can see that". you were referencing one of our old games, right? that means you ARE relying on meta.
Seeing the same thing as you involves meta, but that itself wouldnt change ym read on last.
I'm right because the evidence in-thread supports it
I think I will lose because my team isn't listening to me
I already caught the mafia
me surviving over Grapefruit is useful because I caught the scum and he didn't
there is "right" before the game is over because the scum are a non-fluctuating value that was pre-determined as the game began and if you don't think the scum are scum then you're wrong
if you ARE right, then why didn't we lynch mafia instead? just because you're right in lynching town doesn't mean you're otherworldly right, since even mafia knows that.
you need to lynch and flip mafia to count as having caught mafia. all talk and no bite. and hey, even mafia knows their own members so...you could've easily known that.
I'm trying to re-assess the situation. I daresay there's a chance I could be wrong. so yes, there is no right until the game ends. you haven't exactly tried to make sense of things and the flip, only wanting to prove that you know someone will flip town. aren't you just willing us to lose?
We didn't lynch mafia because we didn't lynch Az when I said we should have. I have a single vote. I can't put 9 votes on a single player. You caused us to completely waste half of Day 1 by playing coy with your claim, so it's no wonder we had a last-second lynch. And you say I'M willing us to lose? No. If this town wants to win, it will follow me to the ends of the earth or fail. There is no in-between.
I love this post from iso, i honestly trust him enough plus my own read on az to say we should just lock a lynch on him.
again how can you like this post by Iso, I dont think this is Dawn's scum game, and thats not gunna change, but how can Iso use the arguement, "I am only one person," when Ive been saying the same thing... lol, I didnt make people switch to grapefruit, and I certainly didnt have a hand in getting people to remove there votes on me.
I suppose Axel could have lied, but I'm town reading him and that combined with the possibility of not betraying the person you're about to murder makes it seem pretty unlikely that he murdered him.
that could've been what he wants us to think... I remember he was pushy about wanting to know whether roleblocking works on the nightkill, or have me lynched otherwise - scum could've wanted to keep the vig to shoot town, but still be unable to stop their kills. the way he reacted to my fullclaim was different from yours, since you calculated how to use the vigshot, but he was concerned about the effectiveness of roleblocking on a nightkill.
Once again, DBS, you have me mixed up with someone else.
It's okay. You post so much it must be hard to keep track.
and im not gunna lie about this, I was told by one of the mods that my ability does cost bp, and he explicately said, bp is required for using abilities... is everyone sure they are not reading their abilities wrong?
hmmm context of role words are so vague. ok, I think I can shoot N1, but it'll cost 1 BP. (that "1 BP" sentence was rly confusing....) shoulda asked the host next time gg
And DBS continues to do everything in her power to make me continue to be suspicious of her. For ***** sake. Will you go clarify your freaking role, right now. I'm not asking you to claim it. I want you to 100% understand what it is and how it works. So you can never come back in here again and say "oops, I misread/didn't understand/got confused" again.
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@Phraze Last/Terry/Killjoy should all be town for that early D1 tie. all 3 of them gained focus that never actually broke down even after dozens of pages later.
Can you explain this again? I want to better understand how you came to this conclusion.
also why do you town read Tom?
you sure forget a lot lol
scum usually focus on finding faults in the town. the more pressure someone receives, the more likely they're going to make mistakes, and scum will capitalize on that mistake. the scumteam just has to tilt the board in their favor, whenever town tries to move in the right direction. finding fault can seem like scumhunting, but it is more sinister and controlling.
this kind of buildup was what happened since that early D1 tie. the town's focus was heavily shifted towards Last, for being scummy, and Dawn, for fooling around. Killjoy was questioned by Dawn, and his absence was capitalized on - Osie and others noted that he hardly posted in the thread. I think another reason Killjoy was pushed was...his scumread on Osie? that seemed to be the main reason Killjoy was scumread: for scumreading Osie - the D1 tie was just the starting point. the easiest mislynch candidates were Dawn/Last, not Killjoy, which means Killjoy must have been onto something since he was ANYTHING but an easy mislynch.
as for Tom, his thinking process is clear. I don't see any hidden agenda or caution in his actions that are indicative of being scum. he doesn't have that 'sinister and controlling' 'trying to find fault' vibe. I'm pretty sure he's town.
also you asked me before why I scum read tom, I want to do an Iso on him, to fully understand him, but I just have this feeling that he is scum... Like He defense of Jenna felt like it came from someone that already knew he would flip town, which obviously we dont know that, but I'm just saying thats how it felt.
and I dont like attacking people for not being able to be active at certain times, but again the way he appeared at the EoD is just so uggh...
and why did he get so mad when I associated him with Jenna, like his tone did a 180... lol
I mean maybe ill move him up to neutral, but he isnt getting at town read from, and regardless of if he believes his vote on me isnt omgus, it totally is... lol
which is it man?
are we w/w?
am i TMIing that shes town?
like, im not even townreading her that hard. id love for her to come out with a claim that either lynches scum or outs herself
aorn i feel like shes one of the more likely scum in an az/iso v/v world. along with osi/axel/[hidden read]
not sure how she would fit into any iso or az worlds but im just watching the way theyre tying her and me to eachother
I'm right because the evidence in-thread supports it
I think I will lose because my team isn't listening to me
I already caught the mafia
me surviving over Grapefruit is useful because I caught the scum and he didn't
there is "right" before the game is over because the scum are a non-fluctuating value that was pre-determined as the game began and if you don't think the scum are scum then you're wrong
if you ARE right, then why didn't we lynch mafia instead? just because you're right in lynching town doesn't mean you're otherworldly right, since even mafia knows that.
you need to lynch and flip mafia to count as having caught mafia. all talk and no bite. and hey, even mafia knows their own members so...you could've easily known that.
I'm trying to re-assess the situation. I daresay there's a chance I could be wrong. so yes, there is no right until the game ends. you haven't exactly tried to make sense of things and the flip, only wanting to prove that you know someone will flip town. aren't you just willing us to lose?
We didn't lynch mafia because we didn't lynch Az when I said we should have. I have a single vote. I can't put 9 votes on a single player. You caused us to completely waste half of Day 1 by playing coy with your claim, so it's no wonder we had a last-second lynch. And you say I'M willing us to lose? No. If this town wants to win, it will follow me to the ends of the earth or fail. There is no in-between.
I love this post from iso, i honestly trust him enough plus my own read on az to say we should just lock a lynch on him.
again how can you like this post by Iso, I dont think this is Dawn's scum game, and thats not gunna change, but how can Iso use the arguement, "I am only one person," when Ive been saying the same thing... lol, I didnt make people switch to grapefruit, and I certainly didnt have a hand in getting people to remove there votes on me.
He doesnt even reference dawn as being scum here wtf? Hes talking about azreal and how people should have followed him on that read.
I don't understand him, and I think his actions have been scummy. Defiantly so even.
And yet. There's something...guileless about him? Possibly I'm being too gun shy in the face of a new person who's got a play-style I don't get at all, but I like other options better.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
@Phraze Last/Terry/Killjoy should all be town for that early D1 tie. all 3 of them gained focus that never actually broke down even after dozens of pages later.
Can you explain this again? I want to better understand how you came to this conclusion.
also why do you town read Tom?
you sure forget a lot lol
scum usually focus on finding faults in the town. the more pressure someone receives, the more likely they're going to make mistakes, and scum will capitalize on that mistake. the scumteam just has to tilt the board in their favor, whenever town tries to move in the right direction. finding fault can seem like scumhunting, but it is more sinister and controlling.
this kind of buildup was what happened since that early D1 tie. the town's focus was heavily shifted towards Last, for being scummy, and Dawn, for fooling around. Killjoy was questioned by Dawn, and his absence was capitalized on - Osie and others noted that he hardly posted in the thread. I think another reason Killjoy was pushed was...his scumread on Osie? that seemed to be the main reason Killjoy was scumread: for scumreading Osie - the D1 tie was just the starting point. the easiest mislynch candidates were Dawn/Last, not Killjoy, which means Killjoy must have been onto something since he was ANYTHING but an easy mislynch.
as for Tom, his thinking process is clear. I don't see any hidden agenda or caution in his actions that are indicative of being scum. he doesn't have that 'sinister and controlling' 'trying to find fault' vibe. I'm pretty sure he's town.
also you asked me before why I scum read tom, I want to do an Iso on him, to fully understand him, but I just have this feeling that he is scum... Like He defense of Jenna felt like it came from someone that already knew he would flip town, which obviously we dont know that, but I'm just saying thats how it felt.
and I dont like attacking people for not being able to be active at certain times, but again the way he appeared at the EoD is just so uggh...
and why did he get so mad when I associated him with Jenna, like his tone did a 180... lol
I mean maybe ill move him up to neutral, but he isnt getting at town read from, and regardless of if he believes his vote on me isnt omgus, it totally is... lol
on a scale of 1-10, how right has your 'feeling' been? from track record of course, since feeling shouldn't be depended on. I 'feel' Axel is scum, or that you are town, but I'm open to 2nd thoughts.
to be fair, you associated Tom/Jenna as scum, when you could have associated both as town. I don't think Tom's vote on you is misplaced or ill-intended. he voted what he thought was a very scummy/negative reaction.
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if you ARE right, then why didn't we lynch mafia instead? just because you're right in lynching town doesn't mean you're otherworldly right, since even mafia knows that.
you need to lynch and flip mafia to count as having caught mafia. all talk and no bite. and hey, even mafia knows their own members so...you could've easily known that.
I'm trying to re-assess the situation. I daresay there's a chance I could be wrong. so yes, there is no right until the game ends. you haven't exactly tried to make sense of things and the flip, only wanting to prove that you know someone will flip town. aren't you just willing us to lose?
We didn't lynch mafia because we didn't lynch Az when I said we should have. I have a single vote. I can't put 9 votes on a single player. You caused us to completely waste half of Day 1 by playing coy with your claim, so it's no wonder we had a last-second lynch. And you say I'M willing us to lose? No. If this town wants to win, it will follow me to the ends of the earth or fail. There is no in-between.
I love this post from iso, i honestly trust him enough plus my own read on az to say we should just lock a lynch on him.
again how can you like this post by Iso, I dont think this is Dawn's scum game, and thats not gunna change, but how can Iso use the arguement, "I am only one person," when Ive been saying the same thing... lol, I didnt make people switch to grapefruit, and I certainly didnt have a hand in getting people to remove there votes on me.
He doesnt even reference dawn as being scum here wtf? Hes talking about azreal and how people should have followed him on that read.
Why did u vote GF?
Well his quote was about dawn, so I thought id drop it in there. Well ya he wants to lynch Az, but his most seemed more like shade against Dawn... Im willing to follow Iso now at least, and with that I ask, are you gunna waste another day with your vote on Dawn all day. Seriously this is getting old, move your vote to another scum lean plz...
and I scum read GF, because I didnt like his early tunnel on grrr, I didnt like his aggressive tone, and I didnt like how he voted me after saying, "I am never voting last before Dawn"...
I don't understand him, and I think his actions have been scummy. Defiantly so even.
And yet. There's something...guileless about him? Possibly I'm being too gun shy in the face of a new person who's got a play-style I don't get at all, but I like other options better.
What you didnt learn is how ineffective meta is i Guess. Now only is that game different, the people are different, the pace is different, the phase length is different. Shall I go on? Meta is ineffective.
oh? then tell me what you were implying when you quoted Last's reply to me and said, "I can see that". you were referencing one of our old games, right? that means you ARE relying on meta.
Seeing the same thing as you involves meta, but that itself wouldnt change ym read on last.
and so you agree. if that is the case, both of us are using meta, and you have no right to criticize it.
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What you didnt learn is how ineffective meta is i Guess. Now only is that game different, the people are different, the pace is different, the phase length is different. Shall I go on? Meta is ineffective.
oh? then tell me what you were implying when you quoted Last's reply to me and said, "I can see that". you were referencing one of our old games, right? that means you ARE relying on meta.
Seeing the same thing as you involves meta, but that itself wouldnt change ym read on last.
and so you agree. if that is the case, both of us are using meta, and you have no right to criticize it.
Shin is that guy to say how much he hates using meta, but uses it anyways, and tells other people their meta reads are wrong, yes I just shaded him...
We didn't lynch mafia because we didn't lynch Az when I said we should have. I have a single vote. I can't put 9 votes on a single player. You caused us to completely waste half of Day 1 by playing coy with your claim, so it's no wonder we had a last-second lynch. And you say I'M willing us to lose? No. If this town wants to win, it will follow me to the ends of the earth or fail. There is no in-between.
I love this post from iso, i honestly trust him enough plus my own read on az to say we should just lock a lynch on him.
again how can you like this post by Iso, I dont think this is Dawn's scum game, and thats not gunna change, but how can Iso use the arguement, "I am only one person," when Ive been saying the same thing... lol, I didnt make people switch to grapefruit, and I certainly didnt have a hand in getting people to remove there votes on me.
He doesnt even reference dawn as being scum here wtf? Hes talking about azreal and how people should have followed him on that read.
Why did u vote GF?
Well his quote was about dawn, so I thought id drop it in there. Well ya he wants to lynch Az, but his most seemed more like shade against Dawn... Im willing to follow Iso now at least, and with that I ask, are you gunna waste another day with your vote on Dawn all day. Seriously this is getting old, move your vote to another scum lean plz...
and I scum read GF, because I didnt like his early tunnel on grrr, I didnt like his aggressive tone, and I didnt like how he voted me after saying, "I am never voting last before Dawn"...
tbh I really like ur reads in most games, but right now Im gunna go with my gut and say Tom is scum here, I mean me and you have been wrong/right around 50/50, so Ill take my chances.
Tom has spent most of the day so far, commenting on peoples posts against me, and trying to get people to vote me... lol
Look if Iso is town, I'm town, and Dawn is town... then the lynch yesterday was gunna be a mislynch regardless...
I'm actually thinking Iso is scum lol
as of right now, the only thing I dont like about Iso, is how he went from claiming vigi (yes I know it was a mistake, but who even cc's a vig claim), to being a vengeful, it just feels to convenient
tbh I really like ur reads in most games, but right now Im gunna go with my gut and say Tom is scum here, I mean me and you have been wrong/right around 50/50, so Ill take my chances.
Tom has spent most of the day so far, commenting on peoples posts against me, and trying to get people to vote me... lol
do you think Shinichi is town? I'm starting to think otherwise. I mean, I could be wrong about him being town..
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I have no idea what you are "vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv"ing me about, DBS.
You said (and this was not the first thing you screwed up/changed about your claim):
hmmm context of role words are so vague. ok, I think I can shoot N1, but it'll cost 1 BP. (that "1 BP" sentence was rly confusing....) shoulda asked the host next time gg
I was extremely frustrated with you and your mixed up/changing claims, so I said:
For ***** sake. Will you go clarify your freaking role, right now. I'm not asking you to claim it. I want you to 100% understand what it is and how it works. So you can never come back in here again and say "oops, I misread/didn't understand/got confused" again.
Do you understand that I was asking you to go and (privately) confer with our dear Moderator, and figure out how the **** your role actually worked. Because I was tired of you changing your claim.
Now where in any of this do I say anything about this:
I remember he was pushy about wanting to know whether roleblocking works on the nightkill, or have me lynched otherwise
Which is what you just said.
It's funny (to me) because I remember that there WAS at least one person, maybe more, who specifically asked you whether your RB would stop the Night Kill and there was a whole little thing about it where you were saying something like you assumed it WOULDN'T and other people were saying, no, it should, and asking you to go clarify with the Mod., etc, that I had nothing to do with.
Again, I know it's hard to keep track, and all, but please.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
tbh I really like ur reads in most games, but right now Im gunna go with my gut and say Tom is scum here, I mean me and you have been wrong/right around 50/50, so Ill take my chances.
Tom has spent most of the day so far, commenting on peoples posts against me, and trying to get people to vote me... lol
do you think Shinichi is town? I'm starting to think otherwise. I mean, I could be wrong about him being town..
hell if I know, I mean he allied me, even though I said I was gunna betray... and he then he makes statements like, "I dont care who you are, I will scum/town read you on what you do this game," and also says stuff like, "I cant believe my brother betrayed me." lol I find him as hard to read as I find you, lol. But he makes a few multi quote posts, and then goes back to scum reading you, and focusing mainly on you, and I dont how I feel about it. This tunnel feels so bad to be coming from scum imo.
I havent been in one game where roleblocking couldnt stop a nk, so I dont understand why it was even a question... super kills have always been the only thing that goes through a roleblock.
tbh I really like ur reads in most games, but right now Im gunna go with my gut and say Tom is scum here, I mean me and you have been wrong/right around 50/50, so Ill take my chances.
Tom has spent most of the day so far, commenting on peoples posts against me, and trying to get people to vote me... lol
do you think Shinichi is town? I'm starting to think otherwise. I mean, I could be wrong about him being town..
hell if I know, I mean he allied me, even though I said I was gunna betray... and he then he makes statements like, "I dont care who you are, I will scum/town read you on what you do this game," and also says stuff like, "I cant believe my brother betrayed me." lol I find him as hard to read as I find you, lol. But he makes a few multi quote posts, and then goes back to scum reading you, and focusing mainly on you, and I dont how I feel about it. This tunnel feels so bad to be coming from scum imo.
he knew you would Betray beforehand, and never notified you that he would Ally - he should've known you would Betray. the AB game could easily be used to frame the town. and all that 'brother' talk looks like AtE to me.
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
I havent been in one game where roleblocking couldnt stop a nk, so I dont understand why it was even a question... super kills have always been the only thing that goes through a roleblock.
its a setup thing sometimes scum have to send one member of the team to do a kill sometimes its just a factional kill that cant be tracked/watched/roleblocked
I havent been in one game where roleblocking couldnt stop a nk, so I dont understand why it was even a question... super kills have always been the only thing that goes through a roleblock.
strongman kills works on doctor protection. never seen roleblockers double as doctors tbh. Starship Epiphron was an exception. MU games are also different. (orrrr maybe I was lied to by scum that rb don't work on nightkills? lol)
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
I havent been in one game where roleblocking couldnt stop a nk, so I dont understand why it was even a question... super kills have always been the only thing that goes through a roleblock.
its a setup thing sometimes scum have to send one member of the team to do a kill sometimes its just a factional kill that cant be tracked/watched/roleblocked
what you mean? You saying that some set ups, have it so only non factional kills can be roleblocked? like vigi shots? but mafia kills can still be roleblocked?
I havent been in one game where roleblocking couldnt stop a nk, so I dont understand why it was even a question... super kills have always been the only thing that goes through a roleblock.
its a setup thing sometimes scum have to send one member of the team to do a kill sometimes its just a factional kill that cant be tracked/watched/roleblocked
what you mean? You saying that some set ups, have it so only non factional kills can be roleblocked? like vigi shots? but mafia kills can still be roleblocked?
I havent been in one game where roleblocking couldnt stop a nk, so I dont understand why it was even a question... super kills have always been the only thing that goes through a roleblock.
strongman kills works on doctor protection. never seen roleblockers double as doctors tbh. Starship Epiphron was an exception. MU games are also different. (orrrr maybe I was lied to by scum that rb don't work on nightkills? lol)
I havent been in one game where roleblocking couldnt stop a nk, so I dont understand why it was even a question... super kills have always been the only thing that goes through a roleblock.
its a setup thing sometimes scum have to send one member of the team to do a kill sometimes its just a factional kill that cant be tracked/watched/roleblocked
what you mean? You saying that some set ups, have it so only non factional kills can be roleblocked? like vigi shots? but mafia kills can still be roleblocked?
i mean...
ok so roleblock targets a person.
if the kill isnt assigned theres no person to roleblock
Look if Iso is town, I'm town, and Dawn is town... then the lynch yesterday was gunna be a mislynch regardless...
I'm actually thinking Iso is scum lol
as of right now, the only thing I dont like about Iso, is how he went from claiming vigi (yes I know it was a mistake, but who even cc's a vig claim), to being a vengeful, it just feels to convenient
let's think about this....
hypothetically, Iso has been hinting that he needs more BP, setting himself up for a pr claim. I, who was pressured and claimed, now stole the thing he was setting himself up for. he probably wanted to counter my claim and have me lynched, but that would make him the D2 lynch, and the tradeoff was bad for only Day 1. he retracted the claim, but claimed vengeful. this means he surely could've left breadcrumbs of a killing role, to pull up if he claimed vig, but since I claimed vig he had no choice but to claim another type of killing role. possible?
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
I havent been in one game where roleblocking couldnt stop a nk, so I dont understand why it was even a question... super kills have always been the only thing that goes through a roleblock.
strongman kills works on doctor protection. never seen roleblockers double as doctors tbh. Starship Epiphron was an exception. MU games are also different. (orrrr maybe I was lied to by scum that rb don't work on nightkills? lol)
RB usually cant stop the factional kill on mu
I see.. so I'm half-right there. MAL is more like MU.
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
I havent been in one game where roleblocking couldnt stop a nk, so I dont understand why it was even a question... super kills have always been the only thing that goes through a roleblock.
its a setup thing sometimes scum have to send one member of the team to do a kill sometimes its just a factional kill that cant be tracked/watched/roleblocked
what you mean? You saying that some set ups, have it so only non factional kills can be roleblocked? like vigi shots? but mafia kills can still be roleblocked?
i mean...
ok so roleblock targets a person.
if the kill isnt assigned theres no person to roleblock
no idea
Last - townish
Jenna - townish
Axelrod - townish
Phoenix - townish
Kabazame - townish
Megs!Cythare
Shinichi
scumlean
Iso
Osie
I think Azrael/Iso aren't aligned. Azrael called Iso out, and received an omgus lynch vote in return.
more in favor of Azrael being town while Iso is scum.
would there be 4 or 5 scum?
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
I disagree. I think he's town.
Be grateful, always."
I love this post from iso, i honestly trust him enough plus my own read on az to say we should just lock a lynch on him.
also you asked me before why I scum read tom, I want to do an Iso on him, to fully understand him, but I just have this feeling that he is scum... Like He defense of Jenna felt like it came from someone that already knew he would flip town, which obviously we dont know that, but I'm just saying thats how it felt.
and I dont like attacking people for not being able to be active at certain times, but again the way he appeared at the EoD is just so uggh...
and why did he get so mad when I associated him with Jenna, like his tone did a 180... lol
I mean maybe ill move him up to neutral, but he isnt getting at town read from, and regardless of if he believes his vote on me isnt omgus, it totally is... lol
Be grateful, always."
Pretty sure he knows that axel isnt lieing
No reason not to respond to jenna post properly then.
Is there a reason you have focused this on yourself, Terry? Why are you asking if it was YOU specifically she "saw?"
I was going to say "good luck with that"
Then I see:
How is that even possible.
I'm serious.
Yeah, right. Iso, the thing is, you're acting scummy. And you ought to understand that. You've been (semi)apologetic you haven't been able to be as active in this game as in past games, but this idea that you've been such an amazing Townie, that you have caught all the scum, and all we have to do is follow you, is completely laughable. And I just have a hard time seeing Town you saying it with a straight face. It sounds like scum bluster. Which is not unlike what Az is doing. Imagine that.
I have not figured out why she is "caught" specifically.
I am wondering if she is completely BSing, however. Because of this:
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In which she appears to be claiming that she saw "someone" give Shin" BP last night, when that is not what happened. It looks like she possibly misread/misunderstood the conversation?
Once again, DBS, you have me mixed up with someone else.
It's okay. You post so much it must be hard to keep track.
I want Jenna to spill whatever it is. I'm highly skeptical, but I would love her to go one-on-one with someone. I will state, for whatever it is worth, that I did nothing to DV last night (except the Ally/Ally thing, which I don't think would count as targeting anyway).
Be grateful, always."
Seeing the same thing as you involves meta, but that itself wouldnt change ym read on last.
Be grateful, always."
are we w/w?
am i TMIing that shes town?
like, im not even townreading her that hard. id love for her to come out with a claim that either lynches scum or outs herself
aorn i feel like shes one of the more likely scum in an az/iso v/v world. along with osi/axel/[hidden read]
not sure how she would fit into any iso or az worlds but im just watching the way theyre tying her and me to eachother
He doesnt even reference dawn as being scum here wtf? Hes talking about azreal and how people should have followed him on that read.
Why did u vote GF?
I don't understand him, and I think his actions have been scummy. Defiantly so even.
And yet. There's something...guileless about him? Possibly I'm being too gun shy in the face of a new person who's got a play-style I don't get at all, but I like other options better.
to be fair, you associated Tom/Jenna as scum, when you could have associated both as town. I don't think Tom's vote on you is misplaced or ill-intended. he voted what he thought was a very scummy/negative reaction.
Be grateful, always."
I cant agree on the dawn lynch
and I scum read GF, because I didnt like his early tunnel on grrr, I didnt like his aggressive tone, and I didnt like how he voted me after saying, "I am never voting last before Dawn"...
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."
Tom has spent most of the day so far, commenting on peoples posts against me, and trying to get people to vote me... lol
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."
You said (and this was not the first thing you screwed up/changed about your claim):
I was extremely frustrated with you and your mixed up/changing claims, so I said:
Do you understand that I was asking you to go and (privately) confer with our dear Moderator, and figure out how the **** your role actually worked. Because I was tired of you changing your claim.
Now where in any of this do I say anything about this:
Which is what you just said.
It's funny (to me) because I remember that there WAS at least one person, maybe more, who specifically asked you whether your RB would stop the Night Kill and there was a whole little thing about it where you were saying something like you assumed it WOULDN'T and other people were saying, no, it should, and asking you to go clarify with the Mod., etc, that I had nothing to do with.
Again, I know it's hard to keep track, and all, but please.
hmm.. thanks for the clarification. guess I took it wrongly.
Be grateful, always."
he knew you would Betray beforehand, and never notified you that he would Ally - he should've known you would Betray. the AB game could easily be used to frame the town. and all that 'brother' talk looks like AtE to me.
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."
ok so roleblock targets a person.
if the kill isnt assigned theres no person to roleblock
hypothetically, Iso has been hinting that he needs more BP, setting himself up for a pr claim. I, who was pressured and claimed, now stole the thing he was setting himself up for. he probably wanted to counter my claim and have me lynched, but that would make him the D2 lynch, and the tradeoff was bad for only Day 1. he retracted the claim, but claimed vengeful. this means he surely could've left breadcrumbs of a killing role, to pull up if he claimed vig, but since I claimed vig he had no choice but to claim another type of killing role. possible?
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."
i play a lot of games on a lot of forums
townlean
LnG
Azrael
Terry
Killjoy
Tom
weirdo
Dawn
no idea
Last - townish
Jenna - townish
Axelrod - townish
Phoenix - townish
Kabazame - townish
Megs!Cythare
Shinichi
scumlean
Iso
Osie
I think Azrael/Iso aren't aligned. Azrael called Iso out, and received an omgus lynch vote in return.
more in favor of Azrael being town while Iso is scum.
would there be 4 or 5 scum?
Be grateful, always."