We got Iso going and he's actually playing now, so pressuring him already helped. Haven't loved his response but I can understand why he would be irritated, so I'm fine with giving him another day to really get going. With Iso a lot of what I saw CAN be explained as being disengaged, which may be the result of his time constraints. On the other hand, LW is just plain scummy any way you slice it.
So yeah, Iso lynch wouldn't be the worst thing but I much prefer LW today.
Anyway you slice it? What makes you say that? Seems more like a faked reponse so u can sheep.
Honestly, I almost want to be the lynch for toDay because reviewing a 3500+-post thread is going to be a nightmare if I ever need to reconsider...well, anything.
Just remember that if you guys are gonna lynch me, you'd better do it within the next 30 minutes so I can tell you how bad you all should feel for mislynching on Day 1.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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Honestly, I almost want to be the lynch for toDay because reviewing a 3500+-post thread is going to be a nightmare if I ever need to reconsider...well, anything.
Just remember that if you guys are gonna lynch me, you'd better do it within the next 30 minutes so I can tell you how bad you all should feel for mislynching on Day 1.
well if you are town, then town is doomed to mislynch at this point? #RIP
Honestly, I almost want to be the lynch for toDay because reviewing a 3500+-post thread is going to be a nightmare if I ever need to reconsider...well, anything.
Just remember that if you guys are gonna lynch me, you'd better do it within the next 30 minutes so I can tell you how bad you all should feel for mislynching on Day 1.
I want to die first lol. on the side, is it normal to mislynch on D1 or not?
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
Honestly, I almost want to be the lynch for toDay because reviewing a 3500+-post thread is going to be a nightmare if I ever need to reconsider...well, anything.
Just remember that if you guys are gonna lynch me, you'd better do it within the next 30 minutes so I can tell you how bad you all should feel for mislynching on Day 1.
I want to die first lol. on the side, is it normal to mislynch on D1 or not?
There's a lot of trolling, flaming, and general unpleasantness going around this thread. I recognize I have contributed to some of that, and I'm not making excuses - but this is a game, so let's try to enjoy it, yeah? Please try to tone it down - the number of reports this game has generated is absurd.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Honestly, I almost want to be the lynch for toDay because reviewing a 3500+-post thread is going to be a nightmare if I ever need to reconsider...well, anything.
Just remember that if you guys are gonna lynch me, you'd better do it within the next 30 minutes so I can tell you how bad you all should feel for mislynching on Day 1.
I want to die first lol. on the side, is it normal to mislynch on D1 or not?
no I didnt defend you for you to go down day 1... you know my FoS so just let it be, i swear if that lurker had hammered me I'd be so pissed...
Honestly, I almost want to be the lynch for toDay because reviewing a 3500+-post thread is going to be a nightmare if I ever need to reconsider...well, anything.
I've just been using ctrl-f on people's ISOs, and even that has been a pain. My #2024 mass ISO wall has helped me a bit in that respect, but still.
Just remember that if you guys are gonna lynch me, you'd better do it within the next 30 minutes so I can tell you how bad you all should feel for mislynching on Day 1.
If people lynch you, my POE for tomorrow (besides Dawning) will include everyone on your wagon.
Honestly, I almost want to be the lynch for toDay because reviewing a 3500+-post thread is going to be a nightmare if I ever need to reconsider...well, anything.
Just remember that if you guys are gonna lynch me, you'd better do it within the next 30 minutes so I can tell you how bad you all should feel for mislynching on Day 1.
well if you are town, then town is doomed to mislynch at this point? #RIP
Honestly, I almost want to be the lynch for toDay because reviewing a 3500+-post thread is going to be a nightmare if I ever need to reconsider...well, anything.
Just remember that if you guys are gonna lynch me, you'd better do it within the next 30 minutes so I can tell you how bad you all should feel for mislynching on Day 1.
I want to die first lol. on the side, is it normal to mislynch on D1 or not?
Depends on whether or not I'm in control of the game.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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Lol and people said I was game throwing... Welp...
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no this is ur attempt to still get me lynched when my role is obvious town aligned. And I didn't lie about *****... Actually I haven't lied at all this entire ******* game...
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This game is a collective action, I see nothing wrong with buddying early. It only takes one post to think someone may be town, maybe that will change later, or maybe it won"t? I have weaknesses just like everyone, that"s why I like to work with other people... Hate me for how I play... W/e but we need a Lynch and again if it has to be me, then w/e, but I would like to figure out this game lol
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[quote=LW #4 }
of course I understand why people are scum reading me...
I've been disconnected from the game at points.
I don't explain my scum leans clearly
And i say scummy things per say
Im am clearing buddying Dawn with no reason behind it...
I mean I'm not dumb...
Day 1 isn't my thing, I can't catch scum slips... I'm better with the mechanical aspects of scum hunting and association...
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IF i didnt have dignity in not game throwing I would just tell you all to vote me, so you could see how wrong you are, but I wont go down that route... but at this time I dont have the time or patience to offer you someone other than Iso or Grape...
So if I do die: FoS will be Iso, Grape, and Azreal(Yes, Azreal)
and again let me reiterate, if your expecting a scum flip here, then you wont find one with my lynch, I mean the information from my lynch is still better than a no lynch, but I wont flip scum lol
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[quote=LW #6}
1. Lmao, I'm not buddying Jenna, I just dont 100% scum read her... wot? Dont tell me who I am buddying with...
2. I am buddying DBS, but i never forced her to town read me, she did that on her own...
3. Ive already stated before how I felt about AZ, and that it was iffy
SO again
dont
tell
me
who
I
am
buddying
b/c
you
are
wrong
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The sad part is, almost everyone can jump on w/e train now, and it wouldn"t even be slightly suspicious lol. I still don"t what you people are gunna get from my train when I flip town... Frown At least if I get lynched, but I believe luck is on my side lol
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[quote=LW #8}
Everybody says the good die Young, well if I die Young what will you think about me Smile
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tbh my role name is literally the definition of my ability... It"s weird lol
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[quote=LW}
so let me get this straight, you dont like my shallow reasons for voting Iso? If its so obvious he is town, then why is his train at l2? ohh thats why these 7 people must be dumb, or all scum? Why am I the only one getting seemingly attacked for my vote on this train...
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no I never bounce my vote around, I"m very stingy with my votes, and I barely like starting trains because my reasons are usually weak...
and Jenna brought up a good point about Iso"s claim, like I understand thinking your vigi, but he clearly stated "kill", which is weird. Honestly the more I think about this the more I cant understand the reason for doing this... but it could be some sort of reverse psychology lol??
Honestly Grape, the length of someones post should be nai when left by itself, but Osie"s walls have almost no substance, everything is nai, and instead of focusing on a few people, he focuses on everyone. and the last wall he seemed to get conclusive evidence, so he just used that as an excuse to place a vote on me. and Yes I"ve read 90% of Osie"s walls, so dont say I ignored them...
If I am shading the Jenna train, then Joe is shading the Iso train...
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this is a vote I can get a long side of, vote: Osie or Iso at this point, but Im def not joining this Jenna wagon, its garbage imo...
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finally, I am not scum lol, so if ur expecting me to flip scum you"ll be dissapointed. and "Well hes not helping town, so his lynch isnt that bad even if he flips town," wont fly if you try to fall back onto that.
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@Orb
So your defense is, I wouldnt try so hard with how my work week is, if I was scum? k
God, I should just reframe from talking on Day 1's from now, when I'm town (which i am), or even scum (which im not), it just demoralizes me... to be scum read for everything i say.
I get it I say and do scummy things, but why am I still here then, like if I'm unanimously scummy then just get this over with... The more I defend myself the more I dig my own grave at this point... So forgive me for being frustrated...
If you can read through all of the above posts, and still convince yourselves that LW is scum, you're committing mafia malpractice.
LW is not good enough as scum to repeatedly fake the thoughts that he's expressing above. Those are 100% genuine townie reactions to pressure, and to other developments in the thread. I don't know exactly how good he may be, but you are not going to be able to sell me on LW being a masterful enough scum genius to seed townie tells of that caliber, but still be awful enough to get so much pressure for creating so little value.
Highlights? Post #4. He explains exactly why people are voting for him. He knows it about himself, he sees it in every game. He's fine with that - because that's just how he is, and how he affects people. He's not trying to change that to hide from people - he just owns it. Honesty.
Post #5. The "I wish you guys would vote me just to see how wrong you are" thought is 100% an emotion that townies feel in spades, when they're getting wrongfully run up for poor reasons. LW clearly points out in his other posts why he thinks the rationales against him are poor, so having this thought fits perfectly into a townie mindset for him. He is not slick enough or creative to fake that as scum. He's just not.
Look at the righteous attitude in post #6. He is completely sold on being right, and that that attack is bonkers. A completely townish response to a bad attack.
Number 8, similar vein to number 5. And then that final post I'd previously mentioned as well. Just look at that. This is the very picture of someone who is convinced he is martyring himself. He's resigned to doing the right thing, the thing he knows he should be doing, even though he knows that the town is punishing him for it! This is someone who is feeling extremely bitter that his own teammates are repeatedly dropping the ball on him, who feels that he's doing everything he can to help them, and this is how they thank him.
You can't fake these kinds of tells without an extremely high degree of experience or scum proficiency. They're genuine. They're town indicative.
And you cannot possibly convince me that Iso isn't good enough to pick up on all those tells, just as much as I am. He's better than that. And he's failing - because this is what helps him score a cheap mislynch, and gets him to the night phase where he can attempt to silence me, before I wreck the rest of his team.
LW is town, Iso knows it, and the scum are going all out to derail onto a vulnerable townie. Do not let them do it. Kill Iso, see him flip scum, and tomorrow we crush Grapefruit.
There's a lot of trolling, flaming, and general unpleasantness going around this thread. I recognize I have contributed to some of that, and I'm not making excuses - but this is a game, so let's try to enjoy it, yeah? Please try to tone it down - the number of reports this game has generated is absurd.
*Takes the Mod hat off*
Let's continue.
so many reports forrealz? ok... lol
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
Honestly, I almost want to be the lynch for toDay because reviewing a 3500+-post thread is going to be a nightmare if I ever need to reconsider...well, anything.
I've just been using ctrl-f on people's ISOs, and even that has been a pain. My #2024 mass ISO wall has helped me a bit in that respect, but still.
Just remember that if you guys are gonna lynch me, you'd better do it within the next 30 minutes so I can tell you how bad you all should feel for mislynching on Day 1.
If people lynch you, my POE for tomorrow (besides Dawning) will include everyone on your wagon.
Anyway you slice it? What makes you say that? Seems more like a faked reponse so u can sheep.
It's like 2 hours to deadline with two clear wagons, obviously I'm going to vote one of them. I'm not going to derail everything to go after someone else.
Besides that I called LW scummy in my first post of the game and said he was the lynch I was most comfortable with earlier before I decided to pressure Iso.
AND I said I was going to vote him 6 hours ago but I didn't want to risk the hammer
So yeah I don't know what you mean by sheeping!
Anyway, his scumminess isn't related to being uninterested or different from normal like Iso, where a lot of the arguments against him have been meta. That's what I mean by anyway you slice it
[Fixed tag edition] Guys, Last Whisper is not scum:
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Lol and people said I was game throwing... Welp...
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[quote=LW]
no this is ur attempt to still get me lynched when my role is obvious town aligned. And I didn't lie about *****... Actually I haven't lied at all this entire ******* game...
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This game is a collective action, I see nothing wrong with buddying early. It only takes one post to think someone may be town, maybe that will change later, or maybe it won't? I have weaknesses just like everyone, that's why I like to work with other people... Hate me for how I play... W/e but we need a Lynch and again if it has to be me, then w/e, but I would like to figure out this game lol
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of course I understand why people are scum reading me...
I've been disconnected from the game at points.
I don't explain my scum leans clearly
And i say scummy things per say
Im am clearing buddying Dawn with no reason behind it...
I mean I'm not dumb...
Day 1 isn't my thing, I can't catch scum slips... I'm better with the mechanical aspects of scum hunting and association...
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IF i didnt have dignity in not game throwing I would just tell you all to vote me, so you could see how wrong you are, but I wont go down that route... but at this time I dont have the time or patience to offer you someone other than Iso or Grape...
So if I do die: FoS will be Iso, Grape, and Azreal(Yes, Azreal)
and again let me reiterate, if your expecting a scum flip here, then you wont find one with my lynch, I mean the information from my lynch is still better than a no lynch, but I wont flip scum lol
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1. Lmao, I'm not buddying Jenna, I just dont 100% scum read her... wot? Dont tell me who I am buddying with...
2. I am buddying DBS, but i never forced her to town read me, she did that on her own...
3. Ive already stated before how I felt about AZ, and that it was iffy
SO again
dont
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who
I
am
buddying
b/c
you
are
wrong
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The sad part is, almost everyone can jump on w/e train now, and it wouldn"t even be slightly suspicious lol. I still don"t what you people are gunna get from my train when I flip town... Frown At least if I get lynched, but I believe luck is on my side lol
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Everybody says the good die Young, well if I die Young what will you think about me Smile
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tbh my role name is literally the definition of my ability... It's weird lol
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so let me get this straight, you dont like my shallow reasons for voting Iso? If its so obvious he is town, then why is his train at l2? ohh thats why these 7 people must be dumb, or all scum? Why am I the only one getting seemingly attacked for my vote on this train...
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no I never bounce my vote around, I'm very stingy with my votes, and I barely like starting trains because my reasons are usually weak...
and Jenna brought up a good point about Iso's claim, like I understand thinking your vigi, but he clearly stated "kill", which is weird. Honestly the more I think about this the more I cant understand the reason for doing this... but it could be some sort of reverse psychology lol??
Honestly Grape, the length of someones post should be nai when left by itself, but Osie's walls have almost no substance, everything is nai, and instead of focusing on a few people, he focuses on everyone. and the last wall he seemed to get conclusive evidence, so he just used that as an excuse to place a vote on me. and Yes I've read 90% of Osie's walls, so dont say I ignored them...
If I am shading the Jenna train, then Joe is shading the Iso train...
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this is a vote I can get a long side of, vote: Osie or Iso at this point, but Im def not joining this Jenna wagon, its garbage imo...
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finally, I am not scum lol, so if ur expecting me to flip scum you'll be dissapointed. and "Well hes not helping town, so his lynch isnt that bad even if he flips town," wont fly if you try to fall back onto that.
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@Orb
So your defense is, I wouldnt try so hard with how my work week is, if I was scum? k
God, I should just reframe from talking on Day 1's from now, when I'm town (which i am), or even scum (which im not), it just demoralizes me... to be scum read for everything i say.
I get it I say and do scummy things, but why am I still here then, like if I'm unanimously scummy then just get this over with... The more I defend myself the more I dig my own grave at this point... So forgive me for being frustrated...
If you can read through all of the above posts, and still convince yourselves that LW is scum, you're committing mafia malpractice.
LW is not good enough as scum to repeatedly fake the thoughts that he's expressing above. Those are 100% genuine townie reactions to pressure, and to other developments in the thread. I don't know exactly how good he may be, but you are not going to be able to sell me on LW being a masterful enough scum genius to seed townie tells of that caliber, but still be awful enough to get so much pressure for creating so little value.
Highlights? Post #4. He explains exactly why people are voting for him. He knows it about himself, he sees it in every game. He's fine with that - because that's just how he is, and how he affects people. He's not trying to change that to hide from people - he just owns it. Honesty.
Post #5. The "I wish you guys would vote me just to see how wrong you are" thought is 100% an emotion that townies feel in spades, when they're getting wrongfully run up for poor reasons. LW clearly points out in his other posts why he thinks the rationales against him are poor, so having this thought fits perfectly into a townie mindset for him. He is not slick enough or creative to fake that as scum. He's just not.
Look at the righteous attitude in post #6. He is completely sold on being right, and that that attack is bonkers. A completely townish response to a bad attack.
Number 8, similar vein to number 5. And then that final post I'd previously mentioned as well. Just look at that. This is the very picture of someone who is convinced he is martyring himself. He's resigned to doing the right thing, the thing he knows he should be doing, even though he knows that the town is punishing him for it! This is someone who is feeling extremely bitter that his own teammates are repeatedly dropping the ball on him, who feels that he's doing everything he can to help them, and this is how they thank him.
You can't fake these kinds of tells without an extremely high degree of experience or scum proficiency. They're genuine. They're town indicative.
And you cannot possibly convince me that Iso isn't good enough to pick up on all those tells, just as much as I am. He's better than that. And he's failing - because this is what helps him score a cheap mislynch, and gets him to the night phase where he can attempt to silence me, before I wreck the rest of his team.
LW is town, Iso knows it, and the scum are going all out to derail onto a vulnerable townie. Do not let them do it. Kill Iso, see him flip scum, and tomorrow we crush Grapefruit.
Anyway you slice it? What makes you say that? Seems more like a faked reponse so u can sheep.
It's like 2 hours to deadline with two clear wagons, obviously I'm going to vote one of them. I'm not going to derail everything to go after someone else.
Besides that I called LW scummy in my first post of the game and said he was the lynch I was most comfortable with earlier before I decided to pressure Iso.
AND I said I was going to vote him 6 hours ago but I didn't want to risk the hammer
So yeah I don't know what you mean by sheeping!
Anyway, his scumminess isn't related to being uninterested or different from normal like Iso, where a lot of the arguments against him have been meta. That's what I mean by anyway you slice it
I mean if u think hes scum why are ua fraid of being the hammer? Seems counter productive dont u think
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
between all 3 wagons, Grapefruit hasn't claimed. so... best bet?
Sympathize, but we still don't have time. And Iso is transparently trying to murder an innocent town LW. We've got to consolidate on Iso to close this out. We just don't have enough votes to take out any other scum player today, and Iso is as good a scum lynch as GF will ever be after this end of day travesty.
I don't see how anyone who is paying attention to LW's posts, as highlighted above, can read him as scum. Not if you know what you're doing, in the slightest.
I mean if u think hes scum why are ua fraid of being the hammer? Seems counter productive dont u think
When there's 8 hours left in the day? Of course not. Ending day earlier is objectively anti-town because it robs Town of information. Considering there's been about 8 pages since I said that I would say it's a good thing I didn't hammer then
I mean if u think hes scum why are ua fraid of being the hammer? Seems counter productive dont u think
When there's 8 hours left in the day? Of course not. Ending day earlier is objectively anti-town because it robs Town of information. Considering there's been about 8 pages since I said that I would say it's a good thing I didn't hammer then
so you admit you had no idea if you were gunna hammer me or not... and also I completely forgot you were even in this game...
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
So, what was all the business about saying how you are definitely betraying someone tonight? I expected either (1) a claim where you betraying someone actually has a benefit, maybe even to the person you betray or (2) you get something extra special when you betray. This claim has nothing to do with anything. It's just whatever.
Can you explain what was/is up with the "definitely betraying" position?
I have also claimed that my role has "town" in it, so it's pretty safe to assume that after the two of us claimed that, that the mafia knew how our roles were formatted in that regard. Also, speculation on someone's alignment based on role PM formatting is a no-no.
There is literally a sample Town role PM, with formatting and everything, in the rules to this game. No one has to wait for anyone to claim anything to know how the role PMs look.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I mean if u think hes scum why are ua fraid of being the hammer? Seems counter productive dont u think
When there's 8 hours left in the day? Of course not. Ending day earlier is objectively anti-town because it robs Town of information. Considering there's been about 8 pages since I said that I would say it's a good thing I didn't hammer then
8 HOURS BEFORE PHASE CHANGE SEEMS ANTI TOWN REALLY? WHEN WE HAD 2 GOD DANG WEEKS ARE YOU SERIOUS.
Man I want to vote you off this post alone. 8 pages out of the what 62 pages man i sure wish we had more information to go off of.
I mean if u think hes scum why are ua fraid of being the hammer? Seems counter productive dont u think
When there's 8 hours left in the day? Of course not. Ending day earlier is objectively anti-town because it robs Town of information. Considering there's been about 8 pages since I said that I would say it's a good thing I didn't hammer then
8 HOURS BEFORE PHASE CHANGE SEEMS ANTI TOWN REALLY? WHEN WE HAD 2 GOD DANG WEEKS ARE YOU SERIOUS.
Man I want to vote you off this post alone. 8 pages out of the what 62 pages man i sure wish we had more information to go off of.
ur not the only one... but ignore him for now, hes weird
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
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Okay feel slightly stupid, in as much as I just went and rechecked the "sample" role PM and it is not, in fact, formatted exactly the same way.
Carry on.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I have to go make dinner, and as such will likely not be around for the deadline. Let's lynch SOMEBODY. Maybe splitting up the LW wagon will help. I'm no longer convinced that he's the best choice.
Anyway you slice it? What makes you say that? Seems more like a faked reponse so u can sheep.
Just remember that if you guys are gonna lynch me, you'd better do it within the next 30 minutes so I can tell you how bad you all should feel for mislynching on Day 1.
{мы, тьма}
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
vvvvvv
Be grateful, always."
There's a lot of trolling, flaming, and general unpleasantness going around this thread. I recognize I have contributed to some of that, and I'm not making excuses - but this is a game, so let's try to enjoy it, yeah? Please try to tone it down - the number of reports this game has generated is absurd.
*Takes the Mod hat off*
Let's continue.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I've just been using ctrl-f on people's ISOs, and even that has been a pain. My #2024 mass ISO wall has helped me a bit in that respect, but still.
If people lynch you, my POE for tomorrow (besides Dawning) will include everyone on your wagon.
If I get lynched, I know it's a mislynch!
At least then Az might get lynched afterwards.
Depends on whether or not I'm in control of the game.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
If you can read through all of the above posts, and still convince yourselves that LW is scum, you're committing mafia malpractice.
LW is not good enough as scum to repeatedly fake the thoughts that he's expressing above. Those are 100% genuine townie reactions to pressure, and to other developments in the thread. I don't know exactly how good he may be, but you are not going to be able to sell me on LW being a masterful enough scum genius to seed townie tells of that caliber, but still be awful enough to get so much pressure for creating so little value.
Highlights? Post #4. He explains exactly why people are voting for him. He knows it about himself, he sees it in every game. He's fine with that - because that's just how he is, and how he affects people. He's not trying to change that to hide from people - he just owns it. Honesty.
Post #5. The "I wish you guys would vote me just to see how wrong you are" thought is 100% an emotion that townies feel in spades, when they're getting wrongfully run up for poor reasons. LW clearly points out in his other posts why he thinks the rationales against him are poor, so having this thought fits perfectly into a townie mindset for him. He is not slick enough or creative to fake that as scum. He's just not.
Look at the righteous attitude in post #6. He is completely sold on being right, and that that attack is bonkers. A completely townish response to a bad attack.
Number 8, similar vein to number 5. And then that final post I'd previously mentioned as well. Just look at that. This is the very picture of someone who is convinced he is martyring himself. He's resigned to doing the right thing, the thing he knows he should be doing, even though he knows that the town is punishing him for it! This is someone who is feeling extremely bitter that his own teammates are repeatedly dropping the ball on him, who feels that he's doing everything he can to help them, and this is how they thank him.
You can't fake these kinds of tells without an extremely high degree of experience or scum proficiency. They're genuine. They're town indicative.
And you cannot possibly convince me that Iso isn't good enough to pick up on all those tells, just as much as I am. He's better than that. And he's failing - because this is what helps him score a cheap mislynch, and gets him to the night phase where he can attempt to silence me, before I wreck the rest of his team.
LW is town, Iso knows it, and the scum are going all out to derail onto a vulnerable townie. Do not let them do it. Kill Iso, see him flip scum, and tomorrow we crush Grapefruit.
:/
Be grateful, always."
unofficial VC
Iso (6): Tom, Last, Jenna, Azrael, Killjoy, Axel
Lastwhisper (7): Phoenix, Grape, LnG, Iso, Terry, Osie, Kaba
Grapefruit21 (2): DV, Dawn
Not Voting (2): Megiddo, Shinichi
http://itsalmo.st/#zeroescapemafianight1
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Be grateful, always."
It's like 2 hours to deadline with two clear wagons, obviously I'm going to vote one of them. I'm not going to derail everything to go after someone else.
Besides that I called LW scummy in my first post of the game and said he was the lynch I was most comfortable with earlier before I decided to pressure Iso.
AND I said I was going to vote him 6 hours ago but I didn't want to risk the hammer
So yeah I don't know what you mean by sheeping!
Anyway, his scumminess isn't related to being uninterested or different from normal like Iso, where a lot of the arguments against him have been meta. That's what I mean by anyway you slice it
If you can read through all of the above posts, and still convince yourselves that LW is scum, you're committing mafia malpractice.
LW is not good enough as scum to repeatedly fake the thoughts that he's expressing above. Those are 100% genuine townie reactions to pressure, and to other developments in the thread. I don't know exactly how good he may be, but you are not going to be able to sell me on LW being a masterful enough scum genius to seed townie tells of that caliber, but still be awful enough to get so much pressure for creating so little value.
Highlights? Post #4. He explains exactly why people are voting for him. He knows it about himself, he sees it in every game. He's fine with that - because that's just how he is, and how he affects people. He's not trying to change that to hide from people - he just owns it. Honesty.
Post #5. The "I wish you guys would vote me just to see how wrong you are" thought is 100% an emotion that townies feel in spades, when they're getting wrongfully run up for poor reasons. LW clearly points out in his other posts why he thinks the rationales against him are poor, so having this thought fits perfectly into a townie mindset for him. He is not slick enough or creative to fake that as scum. He's just not.
Look at the righteous attitude in post #6. He is completely sold on being right, and that that attack is bonkers. A completely townish response to a bad attack.
Number 8, similar vein to number 5. And then that final post I'd previously mentioned as well. Just look at that. This is the very picture of someone who is convinced he is martyring himself. He's resigned to doing the right thing, the thing he knows he should be doing, even though he knows that the town is punishing him for it! This is someone who is feeling extremely bitter that his own teammates are repeatedly dropping the ball on him, who feels that he's doing everything he can to help them, and this is how they thank him.
You can't fake these kinds of tells without an extremely high degree of experience or scum proficiency. They're genuine. They're town indicative.
And you cannot possibly convince me that Iso isn't good enough to pick up on all those tells, just as much as I am. He's better than that. And he's failing - because this is what helps him score a cheap mislynch, and gets him to the night phase where he can attempt to silence me, before I wreck the rest of his team.
LW is town, Iso knows it, and the scum are going all out to derail onto a vulnerable townie. Do not let them do it. Kill Iso, see him flip scum, and tomorrow we crush Grapefruit.
Be grateful, always."
I mean if u think hes scum why are ua fraid of being the hammer? Seems counter productive dont u think
between all 3 wagons, Grapefruit hasn't claimed. so... best bet?
Be grateful, always."
Kinda wish someone could just clear me and Iso right now, so we could move on haha.
and to whoever this new guy is, that randomly lurkers, 2 hours is ample time to make a new train, dont give me that bull*****. that vote is so bad...
I'll admit, I'm about LW at this point. But it's much too late for a CFD on Az, so we'll just have to take what we can at this point.
I don't like that LnGrR tried to push me to vote LW over Jenna when they were competing wagons. If Jenna is scum, LnGrR is almost definitely scum.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Sympathize, but we still don't have time. And Iso is transparently trying to murder an innocent town LW. We've got to consolidate on Iso to close this out. We just don't have enough votes to take out any other scum player today, and Iso is as good a scum lynch as GF will ever be after this end of day travesty.
I don't see how anyone who is paying attention to LW's posts, as highlighted above, can read him as scum. Not if you know what you're doing, in the slightest.
I'm not sure which.
I want to say they are both bad lynches, but. I don't think that is mathematically possible unless really weird things are happening.
last ditch effort to start a new train that is 90% probably scum... vote: grapefruit
Guess this will be the first game I ever get mislynched in... ohh well... it was destined to happen eventually
When there's 8 hours left in the day? Of course not. Ending day earlier is objectively anti-town because it robs Town of information. Considering there's been about 8 pages since I said that I would say it's a good thing I didn't hammer then
Stop PR hunting, please.
Read the LW analysis post! He's got a bunch of posts where he's so town, it hurts.
Heh.
Hhahaah
Hahahah
So, what was all the business about saying how you are definitely betraying someone tonight? I expected either (1) a claim where you betraying someone actually has a benefit, maybe even to the person you betray or (2) you get something extra special when you betray. This claim has nothing to do with anything. It's just whatever.
Can you explain what was/is up with the "definitely betraying" position?
There is literally a sample Town role PM, with formatting and everything, in the rules to this game. No one has to wait for anyone to claim anything to know how the role PMs look.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
unofficial VC
Iso (5): Tom, Jenna, Azrael, Killjoy, Axel
Lastwhisper (6): Phoenix, LnG, Iso, Terry, Osie, Kaba
Grapefruit21 (3): DV, Dawn, Last
Jenna Tolaria (1): Grape
Not Voting (2): Megiddo, Shinichi
http://itsalmo.st/#zeroescapemafianight1
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Be grateful, always."
8 HOURS BEFORE PHASE CHANGE SEEMS ANTI TOWN REALLY? WHEN WE HAD 2 GOD DANG WEEKS ARE YOU SERIOUS.
Man I want to vote you off this post alone. 8 pages out of the what 62 pages man i sure wish we had more information to go off of.
Not gonna vote grape lol just saying
Happy to switch back as necessary. Iso or Grapefruit. NOT LW!
Be grateful, always."
Unvote, Vote Grapefruit
PROVE ME WRONG
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Carry on.
I have to go make dinner, and as such will likely not be around for the deadline. Let's lynch SOMEBODY. Maybe splitting up the LW wagon will help. I'm no longer convinced that he's the best choice.
Vote: Grapefruit21
LMFAO