Oh yes, if you ignore the numerous questionable things Iso has done, including a compendium of additional questionable actions that Azrael detailed just recently, then of course you will not be able to make any judgment. Did you even reply to Azrael's compendium? I'm not sure you did. Did you miss the episode with Grapefruit?
What questionable things?
Could you stop posting words that mean nothing?
Azreal didn't do jack ***** I agree with Iso. He just said "Probs not cause meta".
You just said he did questionable things.
Name one.
He strongly suspected Grapefruit without voting Grapefruit, opting for a weaker read as a vote.
@DV I mean we could try a train on Tom but will it happen? I don't want us switching to someone that has very little chance of being lynched... Jenna and Tom's interactions are confusing me now... And I'm thinking of moving back to her now. I'll home around 9pm est
Did you mean to direct this at me?
idk someone asked why not Tom over Jenna... Was it you? I read it quick
@D_V: She has a point in that she has done some form of scum hunting, even if neither of us necessarily agrees with all of her conclusions.
Like no
Just no.
That wasn't what was said at all in that ******* post.
Let me go find it for you since you clearly didn't read it.
They gave Blue + townie points.
+ townie points don't come from doing nothing "Bad".
Jenna just said "DV is bad because others said so"
U really believe 100% of her posts were meaningless?
What even is this argument?
No I don't believe 100% were but like 90% is a strong number.
Meanwhile you have massive posts by...
Oh wait you're still on DBS.
Screw off.
I mean u can say what you want but if your not gonna provide an actual decent reason for voting jenna why should i bother following you?
You should vote Lastwhisper instead because he's been strongly awkward, fear-mongery, and over-defensive in regards to himself and others, which suggests that his motives are to protect buddies and avoid being scumread.
DV: Betray!!!!
Shinichi: I stopped reading at her first post. So I don't know yet.
BluesEscape: Ally
tomsloger: Ally
Jenna Tolaria: Ally
lastwhisper: Ally
Megiddo: Unknown agency
dawningbluesky: Ally
Iso: Ally with the expectation that he Ally back.
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry: Betray
Grapefruit21: Ally, I think...
Azrael: Ally!!!
Killjoy: Ally, I think...
LnGrrrR: Ally
osieorb18: Betray, I think...
Phoenix-Fire: Ally
Axelrod: Betray
Azrael saw the two sections of posts that made me distrust D_V; dawningbluesky and LastWhisper appear to be as new and innocent as I; Tom had the same thought as me with Ally town and Betray mafia, I have not seen Megiddo, and Shinichi should come soon. Iso is a strong trust, as he understands how unlikely it is to ever be able to use our abilities, though my trust extends only if he chooses Ally as well. TheRealStinkyJoeTerry said a thing that didn't follow previous sentiments and Azrael pointed it out as well.
Killjoy and Grapefruit seem okay so far, Odie does not. Nothing solid here.
LnGrrrR and Phoenix said minor things that I agree with. Axelrod did not, and has not.
The strength axis of this analysis appears to be the vertical.
@DV I mean we could try a train on Tom but will it happen? I don't want us switching to someone that has very little chance of being lynched... Jenna and Tom's interactions are confusing me now... And I'm thinking of moving back to her now. I'll home around 9pm est
Did you mean to direct this at me?
idk someone asked why not Tom over Jenna... Was it you? I read it quick
That's not what I asked; what I asked was why it didn't make you want to vote tom. Yes, it's a valid reason to want to vote Jenna - but that's only if you're also scumreading tom. I was just wondering why it didn't make you want to vote tom. Does it make you want to vote tom? I never meant to suggest tom is a viable wagon right now - I was simply asking why you didn't want to vote him as a result of this train of logic.
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I've got a couple of minutes, and I'll be trying to follow along as best I can (limited access basically through the deadline). Can we please put LW to L-2 to force the claim, his dancing around it in the final 6 hours is scummy as crap, he knows he's a very real possibility for lynch and despite this he's stalling for time to create havoc. I do not buy the "anyone can figure it out" line at all; he's being anti town and he knows it.
@DV I mean we could try a train on Tom but will it happen? I don't want us switching to someone that has very little chance of being lynched... Jenna and Tom's interactions are confusing me now... And I'm thinking of moving back to her now. I'll home around 9pm est
Did you mean to direct this at me?
idk someone asked why not Tom over Jenna... Was it you? I read it quick
That's not what I asked; what I asked was why it didn't make you want to vote tom. Yes, it's a valid reason to want to vote Jenna - but that's only if you're also scumreading tom. I was just wondering why it didn't make you want to vote tom. Does it make you want to vote tom? I never meant to suggest tom is a viable wagon right now - I was simply asking why you didn't want to vote him as a result of this train of logic.
I posted that ya, at this point if it wasn't EoD I would vote him
We have claim procedure for a reason. That reason is to eliminate any ambiguity or wiggle room that scum can have for their actions not lining up, and to prevent us from lynching town. I do not condone letting bull***** like LW's claim slide. It took like 20 ******* pages to lock dawn into a claim. We do NOT need that song and dance AGAIN, let alone 6 hours before deadline.
Think critically and you can figure out LastWhisper's role.
I've got a couple of minutes, and I'll be trying to follow along as best I can (limited access basically through the deadline). Can we please put LW to L-2 to force the claim, his dancing around it in the final 6 hours is scummy as crap, he knows he's a very real possibility for lynch and despite this he's stalling for time to create havoc. I do not buy the "anyone can figure it out" line at all; he's being anti town and he knows it.
lmao I don't like claiming... And it's not scummy... If y'all have half a mind you can figure it out w/o me claiming. Also I'm at work... Lol
Azrael saw the two sections of posts that made me distrust D_V;
Yeah.
Jenna is lying about the history of what was said.
Jenna said and I quote.
Azreal said two things that distrust made me Distrust DV.
A) I was right in summarizing what Jenna said as "Someone else said something bad about DV"
B) Jenna never said I lied anywhere.
C) Jenna Town read Blue while neutral reading Megs.
Finally,
Say it with me
Jenna is scum.
Like straight up the fact that you just now got this says to me you have not read Jenna's posts and do not understand the Gimick at all, because they are just lying. You're letting them say ***** that isn't true makes no sense and nobody is holding their feet to the fire.
When I do do it. People go "naw that's town" which it ******* isn't.
And Jenna just ******* skates by and posts more meaningless content that is just ******* worthless, but because GIMICK people just go "Yeah that's a content post right there" YEP YEP YEP.
I've got a couple of minutes, and I'll be trying to follow along as best I can (limited access basically through the deadline). Can we please put LW to L-2 to force the claim, his dancing around it in the final 6 hours is scummy as crap, he knows he's a very real possibility for lynch and despite this he's stalling for time to create havoc. I do not buy the "anyone can figure it out" line at all; he's being anti town and he knows it.
lmao I don't like claiming... And it's not scummy... If y'all have half a mind you can figure it out w/o me claiming. Also I'm at work... Lol
L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
DV: Betray!!!!
Shinichi: I stopped reading at her first post. So I don't know yet.
BluesEscape: Ally
tomsloger: Ally
Jenna Tolaria: Ally
lastwhisper: Ally
Megiddo: Unknown agency
dawningbluesky: Ally
Iso: Ally with the expectation that he Ally back.
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry: Betray
Grapefruit21: Ally, I think...
Azrael: Ally!!!
Killjoy: Ally, I think...
LnGrrrR: Ally
osieorb18: Betray, I think...
Phoenix-Fire: Ally
Axelrod: Betray
Azrael saw the two sections of posts that made me distrust D_V; dawningbluesky and LastWhisper appear to be as new and innocent as I; Tom had the same thought as me with Ally town and Betray mafia, I have not seen Megiddo, and Shinichi should come soon. Iso is a strong trust, as he understands how unlikely it is to ever be able to use our abilities, though my trust extends only if he chooses Ally as well. TheRealStinkyJoeTerry said a thing that didn't follow previous sentiments and Azrael pointed it out as well.
Killjoy and Grapefruit seem okay so far, Odie does not. Nothing solid here.
LnGrrrR and Phoenix said minor things that I agree with. Axelrod did not, and has not.
The strength axis of this analysis appears to be the vertical.
Here is the post in question.
Show me where it says anything about anything in here.
I'll wait.
Show me where the lies were from me from before post 369.
That Jenna just claimed.
D_V, I agree that she has not been a great player. I agree that she has not done as much in the way of scumhunting as I would like. I do not agree that she has done "zero scumhunting." This is not in defense of her, this is me pointing out that hyperbole is not going to help you or anyone else here.
You have a player actively lying in the thread saying things that is not true and changing history to their own liking.
At what point do you go "Yeah that's scummy".
Meanwhile we have a wagon on Iso for the dumbest "Meta" reads.
And you have Jenna on that wagon going "Cause he did X and Y" When they have never A established X and Y and B they never said that until like the last second.
Add that too the weird ass voting behavior, the ******* weird forced reads. The inability to change opinions, and finally the ******* gimick posting which is making half the thread not read their scummy behavior and you got what?
SCUM
Say it with me.
Jenna is scum.
lol ..... I gave my word to never switch vote
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L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
obviously. you're just bad at figuring things out. like, very bad. lol
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L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
obviously. you're just bad at figuring things out. like, very bad. lol
Seriously seriously give me one post where he bread crumbed this, then u can be a smartass.
L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
I very seriously doubt that is all of his role (if it's even true), and I disagree that it's over powered.
I'm not moving my vote.
I kind of believe LW for some god forsaken reason.
LW can you power claim your role so we can maybe move the wagon back to Jenna?
Up to you though.
i mean its still pretty early, if my train keeps growing then Ill try to claim before work... Just not a fan of using power roles to clear oneself as town. and I feel like my role can be more helpful if it stays hidden...
but for now I'll give my two bread crumbing posts:
1. Before I knew how Dawn's role worked, I claimed that I could help her
2. After I understood how Dawn's role worked, I claimed that my ability couldnt actually help her.
I think from those two alone most people could figure out what my role is.
L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
I very seriously doubt that is all of his role (if it's even true), and I disagree that it's over powered.
sigh, I can't even with you guys... Ok so your gunna fear monger now? Explain to us what you mean by, "that's not all of it"
DV: Betray!!!!
Shinichi: I stopped reading at her first post. So I don't know yet.
BluesEscape: Ally
tomsloger: Ally
Jenna Tolaria: Ally
lastwhisper: Ally
Megiddo: Unknown agency
dawningbluesky: Ally
Iso: Ally with the expectation that he Ally back.
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry: Betray
Grapefruit21: Ally, I think...
Azrael: Ally!!!
Killjoy: Ally, I think...
LnGrrrR: Ally
osieorb18: Betray, I think...
Phoenix-Fire: Ally
Axelrod: Betray
Azrael saw the two sections of posts that made me distrust D_V; dawningbluesky and LastWhisper appear to be as new and innocent as I; Tom had the same thought as me with Ally town and Betray mafia, I have not seen Megiddo, and Shinichi should come soon. Iso is a strong trust, as he understands how unlikely it is to ever be able to use our abilities, though my trust extends only if he chooses Ally as well. TheRealStinkyJoeTerry said a thing that didn't follow previous sentiments and Azrael pointed it out as well.
Killjoy and Grapefruit seem okay so far, Odie does not. Nothing solid here.
LnGrrrR and Phoenix said minor things that I agree with. Axelrod did not, and has not.
The strength axis of this analysis appears to be the vertical.
Here is the post in question.
Show me where it says anything about anything in here.
I'll wait.
Show me where the lies were from me from before post 369.
That Jenna just claimed.
D_V, I agree that she has not been a great player. I agree that she has not done as much in the way of scumhunting as I would like. I do not agree that she has done "zero scumhunting." This is not in defense of her, this is me pointing out that hyperbole is not going to help you or anyone else here.
You have a player actively lying in the thread saying things that is not true and changing history to their own liking.
At what point do you go "Yeah that's scummy".
Meanwhile we have a wagon on Iso for the dumbest "Meta" reads.
And you have Jenna on that wagon going "Cause he did X and Y" When they have never A established X and Y and B they never said that until like the last second.
Add that too the weird ass voting behavior, the ******* weird forced reads. The inability to change opinions, and finally the ******* gimick posting which is making half the thread not read their scummy behavior and you got what?
SCUM
Say it with me.
Jenna is scum.
Lies, lies, and more lies. I should have never given you a second chance.
L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
"but Zero sends the boy in the helmet – revealed to be a humanoid robot named Sean – to attack them for violating the rules."
DV: Betray!!!!
Shinichi: I stopped reading at her first post. So I don't know yet.
BluesEscape: Ally
tomsloger: Ally
Jenna Tolaria: Ally
lastwhisper: Ally
Megiddo: Unknown agency
dawningbluesky: Ally
Iso: Ally with the expectation that he Ally back.
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry: Betray
Grapefruit21: Ally, I think...
Azrael: Ally!!!
Killjoy: Ally, I think...
LnGrrrR: Ally
osieorb18: Betray, I think...
Phoenix-Fire: Ally
Axelrod: Betray
Azrael saw the two sections of posts that made me distrust D_V; dawningbluesky and LastWhisper appear to be as new and innocent as I; Tom had the same thought as me with Ally town and Betray mafia, I have not seen Megiddo, and Shinichi should come soon. Iso is a strong trust, as he understands how unlikely it is to ever be able to use our abilities, though my trust extends only if he chooses Ally as well. TheRealStinkyJoeTerry said a thing that didn't follow previous sentiments and Azrael pointed it out as well.
Killjoy and Grapefruit seem okay so far, Odie does not. Nothing solid here.
LnGrrrR and Phoenix said minor things that I agree with. Axelrod did not, and has not.
The strength axis of this analysis appears to be the vertical.
Here is the post in question.
Show me where it says anything about anything in here.
I'll wait.
Show me where the lies were from me from before post 369.
That Jenna just claimed.
D_V, I agree that she has not been a great player. I agree that she has not done as much in the way of scumhunting as I would like. I do not agree that she has done "zero scumhunting." This is not in defense of her, this is me pointing out that hyperbole is not going to help you or anyone else here.
You have a player actively lying in the thread saying things that is not true and changing history to their own liking.
At what point do you go "Yeah that's scummy".
Meanwhile we have a wagon on Iso for the dumbest "Meta" reads.
And you have Jenna on that wagon going "Cause he did X and Y" When they have never A established X and Y and B they never said that until like the last second.
Add that too the weird ass voting behavior, the ******* weird forced reads. The inability to change opinions, and finally the ******* gimick posting which is making half the thread not read their scummy behavior and you got what?
SCUM
Say it with me.
Jenna is scum.
Lies, lies, and more lies. I should have never given you a second chance.
I mean u can say what you want but if your not gonna provide an actual decent reason for voting jenna why should i bother following you?
One 1000. Two 1000. Three 1000. Four 1000...
... Two Hundred Ninety-Nine 1000. Three Hundred 1000.
Let's see this.
You should vote Lastwhisper instead because he's been strongly awkward, fear-mongery, and over-defensive in regards to himself and others, which suggests that his motives are to protect buddies and avoid being scumread.
I just wanted to wait long enough for Jenna to post a couple more times so that I could point out that Jenna is a liar.
Claimed to have "Pointed out my lies"
Etc.
I proved that otherwise. Doesn't prove back up.
I'm sick of this. If people are going to make claims then back them up. This is the election all over again.
I never said that says Jenna
I am the best the very best says Jenna.
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.
Its an exact summary of what you said.
Stop playing semantic gimmick crap.
Another worthless useless post.
Cool.
Where? Could you quote the relevant post?
I literally quoted it a while back.
You literally responded to it.
That's not what I asked; what I asked was why it didn't make you want to vote tom. Yes, it's a valid reason to want to vote Jenna - but that's only if you're also scumreading tom. I was just wondering why it didn't make you want to vote tom. Does it make you want to vote tom? I never meant to suggest tom is a viable wagon right now - I was simply asking why you didn't want to vote him as a result of this train of logic.
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BTW.
But I have 4 marks next to my name while they only list TWO reasons.
You also got that sick sick Blue Ally read in there. Meanwhile marking Megs as "unsure".
So that was clearly in the vocab.
But you have a fair point on:
L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
Must mean that you, like Iso and myself, are not thinking critically enough.
Yeah.
Jenna is lying about the history of what was said.
Jenna said and I quote.
Azreal said two things that distrust made me Distrust DV.
A) I was right in summarizing what Jenna said as "Someone else said something bad about DV"
B) Jenna never said I lied anywhere.
C) Jenna Town read Blue while neutral reading Megs.
Finally,
Say it with me
Jenna is scum.
Like straight up the fact that you just now got this says to me you have not read Jenna's posts and do not understand the Gimick at all, because they are just lying. You're letting them say ***** that isn't true makes no sense and nobody is holding their feet to the fire.
When I do do it. People go "naw that's town" which it ******* isn't.
And Jenna just ******* skates by and posts more meaningless content that is just ******* worthless, but because GIMICK people just go "Yeah that's a content post right there" YEP YEP YEP.
Boy oh boy.
Like.
And all three of us have less than half a mind:
Well its sad for me since LW is my actual brother lol
Lastwhisper (7): Phoenix-Fire, Grapefruit21, LnGrrrR, Iso, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, osieorb18, Shinichi
Iso (7): tomsloger, Lastwhisper, Jenna Tolaria, Azrael, killjoy, dawningbluesky, Axelrod
Jenna Tolaria (1): D_V
Not Voting (2): Megiddo, Kabazame
With 17 alive, it’s 9 to lynch. The deadline is Tuesday, November 7th at 11.59 pm EST (four hours).
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."
Shinichi is dumb. say it with me. lol
Be grateful, always."
Seriously seriously give me one post where he bread crumbed this, then u can be a smartass.
Unvote:lastwhisper
lol
Be grateful, always."
@DV are you willing to lynch Wisp? I know you've said you're okay with a no lynch, but you've also expressed a scum lean on Wisp.
Be grateful, always."
I am not going to go search for those posts smh.
"but Zero sends the boy in the helmet – revealed to be a humanoid robot named Sean – to attack them for violating the rules."
Be grateful, always."
Oh dear god.
Grape just like.
What?
Unvote Vote Grape
This player is now on ignore.
If you guys want to play with this be my guest.
But I'm not playing with this ever again.
I'll take TS over this.
Be grateful, always."
These seem like potential attempts to scumhunt.