L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
I very seriously doubt that is all of his role (if it's even true), and I disagree that it's over powered.
sigh, I can't even with you guys... Ok so your gunna fear monger now? Explain to us what you mean by, "that's not all of it"
I think you're scum, and I think you're withholding something, fear doesn't play into it.
L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
"but Zero sends the boy in the helmet – revealed to be a humanoid robot named Sean – to attack them for violating the rules."
Wasnt it you that said I shouldnt rely on flavor to read roles? Or was that someone else.
I'm not a mod currently, but as a former mod, I'd just like to say that posts like these (where you are directly insulting a player) are not allowed on the Mafia Subforum.
Probably should have said something similar to the extent earlier in the Day, but here goes:
I know things have been pretty chaotic in general this Day (3000+ posts Day 1) and I know that there are a few new names in this game. This is a reminder that yes, culture clash may exist - but please try to remain respectful of each other and keep things civil. Try to be understanding of playstyle differences and remember that mafia is a fun and enjoyable game because of one sole reason, which is the community. It's the reason why I've decided to dedicate a ton of time to this game over the years, and I know it's a similar reason for most of you as well. Not trying to single anybody out, but please just respect each other and keep this site a fun and welcoming place to play mafia.
I'm not a mod currently, but as a former mod, I'd just like to say that posts like these (where you are directly insulting a player) are not allowed on the Mafia Subforum.
Probably should have said something similar to the extent earlier in the Day, but here goes:
I know things have been pretty chaotic in general this Day (3000+ posts Day 1) and I know that there are a few new names in this game. This is a reminder that yes, culture clash may exist - but please try to remain respectful of each other and keep things civil. Try to be understanding of playstyle differences and remember that mafia is a fun and enjoyable game because of one sole reason, which is the community. It's the reason why I've decided to dedicate a ton of time to this game over the years, and I know it's a similar reason for most of you as well. Not trying to single anybody out, but please just respect each other and keep this site a fun and welcoming place to play mafia.
ok.. this site sure is religious.
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@DV I mean we could try a train on Tom but will it happen? I don't want us switching to someone that has very little chance of being lynched... Jenna and Tom's interactions are confusing me now... And I'm thinking of moving back to her now. I'll home around 9pm est
Did you mean to direct this at me?
idk someone asked why not Tom over Jenna... Was it you? I read it quick
That's not what I asked; what I asked was why it didn't make you want to vote tom. Yes, it's a valid reason to want to vote Jenna - but that's only if you're also scumreading tom. I was just wondering why it didn't make you want to vote tom. Does it make you want to vote tom? I never meant to suggest tom is a viable wagon right now - I was simply asking why you didn't want to vote him as a result of this train of logic.
I posted that ya, at this point if it wasn't EoD I would vote him
L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
I very seriously doubt that is all of his role (if it's even true), and I disagree that it's over powered.
Show me where it says anything about anything in here.
I'll wait.
Show me where the lies were from me from before post 369.
That Jenna just claimed.
D_V, I agree that she has not been a great player. I agree that she has not done as much in the way of scumhunting as I would like. I do not agree that she has done "zero scumhunting." This is not in defense of her, this is me pointing out that hyperbole is not going to help you or anyone else here.
You have a player actively lying in the thread saying things that is not true and changing history to their own liking.
At what point do you go "Yeah that's scummy".
Meanwhile we have a wagon on Iso for the dumbest "Meta" reads.
And you have Jenna on that wagon going "Cause he did X and Y" When they have never A established X and Y and B they never said that until like the last second.
Add that too the weird ass voting behavior, the ******* weird forced reads. The inability to change opinions, and finally the ******* gimick posting which is making half the thread not read their scummy behavior and you got what?
SCUM
Say it with me.
Jenna is scum.
Lies, lies, and more lies. I should have never given you a second chance.
This player is now on ignore.
If you guys want to play with this be my guest.
But I'm not playing with this ever again.
I'll take TS over this.
Putting a player on your ignore list is against the rules of the subforum. Don't do this.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
"but Zero sends the boy in the helmet – revealed to be a humanoid robot named Sean – to attack them for violating the rules."
Wasnt it you that said I shouldnt rely on flavor to read roles? Or was that someone else.
That could certainly have been me, lol.
But using flavor to not read roles is different from using flavor to read roles, no?
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
I very seriously doubt that is all of his role (if it's even true), and I disagree that it's over powered.
sigh, I can't even with you guys... Ok so your gunna fear monger now? Explain to us what you mean by, "that's not all of it"
I think you're scum, and I think you're withholding something, fear doesn't play into it.
no this is ur attempt to still get me lynched when my role is obvious town aligned. And I didn't lie about *****... Actually I haven't lied at all this entire ******* game...
TS is TappingStones, a player that got blacklisted for his incurable toxicity in every Mafia game he played in.
Also, just as an FYI, I will be departing the thread for the remainder of the Day in approximately an hour and a half, so if you're going to mislynch me, do me a favor and do it while I'm around so I can shake my cane at you guys from my porch in realtime.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
DV: Betray!!!!
Shinichi: I stopped reading at her first post. So I don't know yet.
BluesEscape: Ally
tomsloger: Ally
Jenna Tolaria: Ally
lastwhisper: Ally
Megiddo: Unknown agency
dawningbluesky: Ally
Iso: Ally with the expectation that he Ally back.
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry: Betray
Grapefruit21: Ally, I think...
Azrael: Ally!!!
Killjoy: Ally, I think...
LnGrrrR: Ally
osieorb18: Betray, I think...
Phoenix-Fire: Ally
Axelrod: Betray
Azrael saw the two sections of posts that made me distrust D_V; dawningbluesky and LastWhisper appear to be as new and innocent as I; Tom had the same thought as me with Ally town and Betray mafia, I have not seen Megiddo, and Shinichi should come soon. Iso is a strong trust, as he understands how unlikely it is to ever be able to use our abilities, though my trust extends only if he chooses Ally as well. TheRealStinkyJoeTerry said a thing that didn't follow previous sentiments and Azrael pointed it out as well.
Killjoy and Grapefruit seem okay so far, Odie does not. Nothing solid here.
LnGrrrR and Phoenix said minor things that I agree with. Axelrod did not, and has not.
The strength axis of this analysis appears to be the vertical.
My god, is it so difficult to understand that the line in bold is about my opinion of Azrael, not you? I even clarified that statement in a later post. And finally, that was a post where I had read approximately 200 posts of the game, I believe, and now we are over 3000 later. How little of my posts have you read to cling to a progress update from page 8?
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
I very seriously doubt that is all of his role (if it's even true), and I disagree that it's over powered.
sigh, I can't even with you guys... Ok so your gunna fear monger now? Explain to us what you mean by, "that's not all of it"
I think you're scum, and I think you're withholding something, fear doesn't play into it.
no this is ur attempt to still get me lynched when my role is obvious town aligned. And I didn't lie about *****... Actually I haven't lied at all this entire ******* game...
Obviously? Do Tell?
Just to clarify pretty sure everyone has town in their role name vice versa for scum or even tpr.
I've got a couple of minutes, and I'll be trying to follow along as best I can (limited access basically through the deadline). Can we please put LW to L-2 to force the claim, his dancing around it in the final 6 hours is scummy as crap, he knows he's a very real possibility for lynch and despite this he's stalling for time to create havoc. I do not buy the "anyone can figure it out" line at all; he's being anti town and he knows it.
How much time did you spend thinking about it before giving up on it?
You guys want to not deal with it your loss. This is the same ***** that happened with IMAB in Mindscrew.
To be fair, I was pretty lazily just looking over my ISO of her (which only hit the first third or so of the game at this point), and I would not be surprised if more good posts exist. Certainly more than zero exist though.
I think the role can be mafia I just think its to strong to be mafia if that makes sense, flavor wise yes the role could be mafia.
I mean, it's significantly more useful as mafia, but I wouldn't call it too strong. Heck, it's weaker than, say, a mafia roleblocker that turns into an extra kill later on in the game.
I very seriously doubt that is all of his role (if it's even true), and I disagree that it's over powered.
sigh, I can't even with you guys... Ok so your gunna fear monger now? Explain to us what you mean by, "that's not all of it"
I think you're scum, and I think you're withholding something, fear doesn't play into it.
no this is ur attempt to still get me lynched when my role is obvious town aligned. And I didn't lie about *****... Actually I haven't lied at all this entire ******* game...
Obviously? Do Tell?
Just to clarify pretty sure everyone has town in their role name vice versa for scum or even tpr.
Seeing as how my role also has town in it.
are you admitting to being scum? you say your role has town in it as well, but that you can clarify that everyone has TOWN written on it.
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
Because it's the correct move. Once you fumbled around with the claim and revealed that you didn't have a vig shot that day or that night, then it was irrelevant. But when you had just claimed vig, it was absolutely correct to unvote you.
L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
My guess was off by a bit but here were the clues:
* I've made it clear I'll claim if betrayed. If you can't put two and two together here not my problem.
* I'd rather not use my role as a way of clearing my self this early.
* My ability costs 1 BP
Now that LastWhisper is exposed, please move votes to Iso.
sigh, I can't even with you guys... Ok so your gunna fear monger now? Explain to us what you mean by, "that's not all of it"
I think you're scum, and I think you're withholding something, fear doesn't play into it.
no this is ur attempt to still get me lynched when my role is obvious town aligned. And I didn't lie about *****... Actually I haven't lied at all this entire ******* game...
Obviously? Do Tell?
Just to clarify pretty sure everyone has town in their role name vice versa for scum or even tpr.
Seeing as how my role also has town in it.
are you admitting to being scum? you say your role has town in it as well, but that you can clarify that everyone has TOWN written on it.
I feel like whateverr you don't like you just deem it a scum tell lmfao, Does your role now have town in it? If so maybe ur tpr or scum.
WHy does that role have to be town? Mafia would benefit from moving BP around secretly as well.
you can think of such a possibility right away. then why did you unvote me when I claimed vig?
Because Vig and donating BP are very different roles. Seems obvious to me.
donating BP sounds as scummy as roleblocker. I don't think the scumteam will have such a role on their list.
First of all scum normally have 1-2 town clearing roles through name alone, while the rest normally are scummy by name alone. No ones gonna give scum all town clearing roles unless it fits with the flavor or the game itself.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
This role has to be town if hes not lieings it be so broken for mafia aligned.
I very seriously doubt that is all of his role (if it's even true), and I disagree that it's over powered.
sigh, I can't even with you guys... Ok so your gunna fear monger now? Explain to us what you mean by, "that's not all of it"
I think you're scum, and I think you're withholding something, fear doesn't play into it.
How irrational do you have to be to purchase a bottle of water and then say to the clerk that the clerk is hiding a BOGO coupon and just cheated you of an extra bottle of water? What precedent do you have for this suspicion?
I think you're scum, and I think you're withholding something, fear doesn't play into it.
no this is ur attempt to still get me lynched when my role is obvious town aligned. And I didn't lie about *****... Actually I haven't lied at all this entire ******* game...
Obviously? Do Tell?
Just to clarify pretty sure everyone has town in their role name vice versa for scum or even tpr.
Seeing as how my role also has town in it.
are you admitting to being scum? you say your role has town in it as well, but that you can clarify that everyone has TOWN written on it.
I feel like whateverr you don't like you just deem it a scum tell lmfao, Does your role now have town in it? If so maybe ur tpr or scum.
nope. you said it yourself. my fullclaim was [Alice - Town Daredevil] so yeah, it has town in it.
you though, said it's possible all roles have TOWN in it. only those who aren't town will know if their role has TOWN in it.
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L2 Can you please claim now because even i cant find this so called bread crumb at this point.
kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.
Name: Sean
Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
Starting BP: 3
Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player
My guess was off by a bit but here were the clues:
* I've made it clear I'll claim if betrayed. If you can't put two and two together here not my problem.
* I'd rather not use my role as a way of clearing my self this early.
* My ability costs 1 BP
Now that LastWhisper is exposed, please move votes to Iso.
Wasnt it you that said I shouldnt rely on flavor to read roles? Or was that someone else.
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."
I'm not a mod currently, but as a former mod, I'd just like to say that posts like these (where you are directly insulting a player) are not allowed on the Mafia Subforum.
Probably should have said something similar to the extent earlier in the Day, but here goes:
I know things have been pretty chaotic in general this Day (3000+ posts Day 1) and I know that there are a few new names in this game. This is a reminder that yes, culture clash may exist - but please try to remain respectful of each other and keep things civil. Try to be understanding of playstyle differences and remember that mafia is a fun and enjoyable game because of one sole reason, which is the community. It's the reason why I've decided to dedicate a ton of time to this game over the years, and I know it's a similar reason for most of you as well. Not trying to single anybody out, but please just respect each other and keep this site a fun and welcoming place to play mafia.
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."
Iso (6): tomsloger, Lastwhisper, Jenna Tolaria, Azrael, killjoy, Axelrod
Lastwhisper (6): Phoenix-Fire, Grapefruit21, LnGrrrR, Iso, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, osieorb18
Grapefruit21 (2): D_V, dawningbluesky
Not Voting (3): Megiddo, Kabazame, Shinichi
With 17 alive, it’s 9 to lynch. The deadline is Tuesday, November 7th at 11.59 pm EST (three and a half hours).
Okay; that's all I was asking.
I thought he was like, a reverse-BP Motivator or something like that.
Agree on both points.
Putting a player on your ignore list is against the rules of the subforum. Don't do this.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
WHy does that role have to be town? Mafia would benefit from moving BP around secretly as well.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm glad you found 5 posts out of 200 something.
I'm what ever.
You guys want to not deal with it your loss. This is the same ***** that happened with IMAB in Mindscrew.
Definitely:
Also, who is TS?
That could certainly have been me, lol.
But using flavor to not read roles is different from using flavor to read roles, no?
Be grateful, always."
I think the role can be mafia I just think its to strong to be mafia if that makes sense, flavor wise yes the role could be mafia.
Because Vig and donating BP are very different roles. Seems obvious to me.
Also, just as an FYI, I will be departing the thread for the remainder of the Day in approximately an hour and a half, so if you're going to mislynch me, do me a favor and do it while I'm around so I can shake my cane at you guys from my porch in realtime.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
It is what it is.
He is what he is.
Nah.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Why would that role be too strong for mafia?
It isn't
@Wisp why is your role obviously town aligned? Seems like it could easily go either way to me.
Obviously? Do Tell?
Just to clarify pretty sure everyone has town in their role name vice versa for scum or even tpr.
Seeing as how my role also has town in it.
To be fair, I was pretty lazily just looking over my ISO of her (which only hit the first third or so of the game at this point), and I would not be surprised if more good posts exist. Certainly more than zero exist though.
I see it having as much potential as a scum aligned neighborizer
I mean, it's significantly more useful as mafia, but I wouldn't call it too strong. Heck, it's weaker than, say, a mafia roleblocker that turns into an extra kill later on in the game.
Be grateful, always."
Now that Grapefruit has answered...
Because it's the correct move. Once you fumbled around with the claim and revealed that you didn't have a vig shot that day or that night, then it was irrelevant. But when you had just claimed vig, it was absolutely correct to unvote you.
Be grateful, always."
* I've made it clear I'll claim if betrayed. If you can't put two and two together here not my problem.
* I'd rather not use my role as a way of clearing my self this early.
* My ability costs 1 BP
Now that LastWhisper is exposed, please move votes to Iso.
As much potential as a scum-aligned neighborizer that is restricted to a situation that categorically favors town in use?
I feel like whateverr you don't like you just deem it a scum tell lmfao, Does your role now have town in it? If so maybe ur tpr or scum.
U realize hes the counter wagon do u think he should just self lynch?
Be grateful, always."
How so?
Pretty sure if that was the case, he'd probably not be on Lastwhisper of all people.
Be grateful, always."
First of all scum normally have 1-2 town clearing roles through name alone, while the rest normally are scummy by name alone. No ones gonna give scum all town clearing roles unless it fits with the flavor or the game itself.
you though, said it's possible all roles have TOWN in it. only those who aren't town will know if their role has TOWN in it.
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."