Jenna: I find you difficult to discern, and I think that's intentional, and I don't trust you. Is playing a character with this depth a common thing for you, or is this something you've decided to add to your repertoire?
Vote Jenna
I mean, I agree that she's doing it on purpose, but not for reasons that make her mafia. Maybe it isn't tripping any alarms for me because I'm too familiar with Homestuck syntax.
She's been evasive and dodgy in response to questions. A list of badly answered or unanswered questions from me. Tau noted her question dodging as well in #149, although he backed down on it a bit. Colin also mentioned it in #158.
I swear I'll come back to this, but overall I think that she wouldn't blatantly avoid questions directed at her as scum. Like, on top of the roleplaying, that's a little much. Does she think she can get away with all that (wine wine wine "you're doing it right now, Vaimes! letting her off for it!!" wine)?
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Not quoting ruru's 209, but re: the section on DoTA that says "no one is townreading him, but no one wants to vote him either." idk, I feel like /someone/ would be actively bussing him if he were mafia. He's almost certainly going to be lynched at some point if flipped interactions or roleclaims don't work out in his favor.
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Kinda ready to slot Reaverb as Town For Now?
Voxx's "Reaverb feels wooden" is eh. I think he felt wooden in the recent-ish MU Witchhunt, and was town. I don't think I ever had a read on him that game. Words words words. He had a post I liked on page six or something, enough to make him TFN. In any case, I think Bear is woodenerer.
I see several people with high Bear reads, and I'm like ???. I can't wait to come back to that after bear-hunting.
I'm back stuffed to the gills with tryptophan... Someone go over the Bear case for me. They weren't on my lunch radar, but a no-lunch is unacceptable.
@Shadow
I have Dot and Osie in a similar place in my mind. Explain what the difference is. If you think Osie's scummy, why park your vote on someone you haven't really mentioned? I guess I don't understand what you mean when you want to put off Osie till later. What is the benefit?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Wagon on me feels like it gained traction out of nowhere... but I'd be really surprised if any of Vaimes, Voxx, or Shadow were actually mafia? It's going to be interesting to see what the tail end of my wagon is like if I actually get lynched. Meanwhile, Osie's vote feels like he was waiting for someone to provide him with a good enough reason to vote for me, tbh. Don't mind swapping to Osie if I have to.
My problems with mobile aren't ad-based. It's like... the text is literally like 5 pixels high in the post field when writing so I can't see ***** on my 2014 phone, especially while using flux (twilight) + the page loads very slowly and in strange chunks and it's only by grace that I've been saved from accidentally liking posts when trying to swap pages because it can suddenly load something and move the buttons around... but mostly the first one. I can't see the ***** I'm typing. It's bad. 0/10.
Wagon on me feels like it gained traction out of nowhere... but I'd be really surprised if any of Vaimes, Voxx, or Shadow were actually mafia? It's going to be interesting to see what the tail end of my wagon is like if I actually get lynched. Meanwhile, Osie's vote feels like he was waiting for someone to provide him with a good enough reason to vote for me, tbh. Don't mind swapping to Osie if I have to.
My problems with mobile aren't ad-based. It's like... the text is literally like 5 pixels high in the post field when writing so I can't see ***** on my 2014 phone, especially while using flux (twilight) + the page loads very slowly and in strange chunks and it's only by grace that I've been saved from accidentally liking posts when trying to swap pages because it can suddenly load something and move the buttons around... but mostly the first one. I can't see the ***** I'm typing. It's bad. 0/10.
Just talk.
Everything that comes into your head about this game.
Give me a sentence or two about every player purely off the top of head.
@Bear: Do you have an app that you can type in and copy/paste? I use notes (I mobile post 100% of the time)
I was trying to do that but I gave up because it wasn't really working for long posts and I couldn't see if it was actually copying the entire thing because it had this tendency to skip up and down and lag when trying to highlight a lot of things now I just write my notes in Docs and turn it into one bigpost when I can get to the computer.
So, faking a post restriction is NAI. So I don't care about that.
Osie first got on my radar with the vote on Voxx. It felt... off. Like he was just trying to do... something.
Osie's 118 is the next thing that bothered me. Its a train of thought post, Except some of the questions are meaningless (how much wood could a woodchuck chuck?)
The Reads list in 129 is another thing. Its full of weak townreads and fence sitting.Gives him the freedom to mostly go anywhere with his reads should he need to.
The whole post on Jenna seems ridiculous. IDK if Osie just didn't think that through, but what I (and now Vaimes) have alluded to is that the way she's doing this isn't something scum would necessarily do.
I pointed out 220. 200 posts into the game where quite a bit has happened and his best lynches are all based on his tinfoil worlds instead of ACTUAL things.
245, 277 are just barning Voxx. 277 in particular I'm annoyed he's not here to answer my question becuase it's very important.I need him to answer what behavior he objected to. It looks outwardly like he's just trying to copy Voxx with no reasons of his own.
The only thing thats giving me pause here (that I'm realizing right now) is that, ISOing him... nothing seems town.Like... nothing. Its all either superficial or scum.So. Shrug?
But all this stuff still adds up to scum, I think.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Only one realistic option, with deadline 40 minutes away.
Vote: osieorb18
I think he's probably going to flip town. Game is too still and peaceful. Wolves are content, they know we have no other choice. There are still worlds where he is a wolf, and I don't feel strongly enough about his towniness in a vacuum to no lynch over not lynching him, just..
Gameflow is a thing.
Virtually no one on his wagon being villagery is a thing.
I don't recall you having an opinion on Colin. Can you spell that out for me a bit?
Sure. He's been basically nonexistent and what he has said has been low impact and a couple times a bit indicative of a mindset disconnect. His read post compared to his read list didn't match up. I think he has a solid chance of being scum.
Only one realistic option, with deadline 40 minutes away.
Vote: osieorb18
I think he's probably going to flip town. Game is too still and peaceful. Wolves are content, they know we have no other choice. There are still worlds where he is a wolf, and I don't feel strongly enough about his towniness in a vacuum to no lynch over not lynching him, just..
Gameflow is a thing.
Virtually no one on his wagon being villagery is a thing.
Eh.
The only thing at this point that gives me hope is that Osie himself is not here pushing back on this, but I agree with much of what you say here.
Wagon on me feels like it gained traction out of nowhere... but I'd be really surprised if any of Vaimes, Voxx, or Shadow were actually mafia? It's going to be interesting to see what the tail end of my wagon is like if I actually get lynched. Meanwhile, Osie's vote feels like he was waiting for someone to provide him with a good enough reason to vote for me, tbh. Don't mind swapping to Osie if I have to.
My problems with mobile aren't ad-based. It's like... the text is literally like 5 pixels high in the post field when writing so I can't see ***** on my 2014 phone, especially while using flux (twilight) + the page loads very slowly and in strange chunks and it's only by grace that I've been saved from accidentally liking posts when trying to swap pages because it can suddenly load something and move the buttons around... but mostly the first one. I can't see the ***** I'm typing. It's bad. 0/10.
@Bear: Do you have an app that you can type in and copy/paste? I use notes (I mobile post 100% of the time)
I was trying to do that but I gave up because it wasn't really working for long posts and I couldn't see if it was actually copying the entire thing because it had this tendency to skip up and down and lag when trying to highlight a lot of things now I just write my notes in Docs and turn it into one bigpost when I can get to the computer.
I just. This is Beru's 'Hi I should be around until EoD' postings. While being a wagon. While needing majority to lynch.
Meh.
Hopefully one of Vaimes, Beru, Reaverb, Colin, etc show up to vote Osie in the nedt 15 minutes I guess. Or d2 is going to be Round Two: Fight, except probably with me dead.
Wagon on me feels like it gained traction out of nowhere... but I'd be really surprised if any of Vaimes, Voxx, or Shadow were actually mafia? It's going to be interesting to see what the tail end of my wagon is like if I actually get lynched. Meanwhile, Osie's vote feels like he was waiting for someone to provide him with a good enough reason to vote for me, tbh. Don't mind swapping to Osie if I have to.
My problems with mobile aren't ad-based. It's like... the text is literally like 5 pixels high in the post field when writing so I can't see ***** on my 2014 phone, especially while using flux (twilight) + the page loads very slowly and in strange chunks and it's only by grace that I've been saved from accidentally liking posts when trying to swap pages because it can suddenly load something and move the buttons around... but mostly the first one. I can't see the ***** I'm typing. It's bad. 0/10.
Just talk.
Everything that comes into your head about this game.
Give me a sentence or two about every player purely off the top of head.
Ok, sure.
You're town. Do you want more words on why I think you're town? Not sure if that's useful because of your meta, but your posts on the subject are tending towards entering in the wifom olympics so I'm just going to write you off and see what happens.
Vaimes parked his vote on me fairly early and hasn't let go or wanted to pursue anything else, but if he's actually mafia then I'm seriously surprised he didn't just try to go for the hard pocket on me, because it probably would have worked? I know it's wine, but I'm townreading him off of this. rip vaimes.
Was mostly giving Shadow a free townread for getting to L-2 so early? If he is mafia, his wagon miiiiight be pure. Don't think it is, though. Also don't think lynching him is a good idea... yup.
Killjoy is... not-Empoof. Rip. Honestly probably one of the top people actually trying to solve the game right now, imo? I haven't seen anything scummy from him so I haven't really been thinking about him that much, and he doesn't really fit into any of my worlds.
Colin's posts are really good and clear and pure and beautiful, but he never actually... voted anyone? Probably should have pushed him more on his reads instead of unvoting but there's only so much you can try to pressure someone to post with only one vote. Also wish he was more engaged, because I invited him here to play with him and now he hasn't..... really.............. played....................
Tubba feels like he's reaching every single time he posts a scumread? Definitely not w/w with Osie. His interactions with Osie are part of the reason why I wish that Archon was being wagoned instead - It's way more likely that Tubba/Archon is a thing than Osie/Tubba is a thing. Gets angry easily when people suspect him, and isn't really defending himself. His Osie/Colin/Reaverb OMGUS trifecta is... also not great. Accused Osie of flailing, but that feels more like he's projecting, tbh.
Reaverb feels... antsy?, might be due to long phases with nobody around. He's actually trying to push people and do things when he could easily afk and not try to push outside me/osie/archon if he was mafia, tho. Definitely not with Archon unless he's hard distancing, could likely be with Osie. Sort of always feels mechanical and dry to me (more mechanical than dry, unlike you, who is the opposite), so if you explained the "wooden" toneread, that would be great.
Archon is... well, he exists. I want to see what his finished readwall looks like before deadline, and hopefully he shows up? If he is town, I don't understand why he felt like 52 had to be made, because it's really bad. He said it was a joke, but... that feels like a poor attempt to dodge. If I had to rank the people on the Shadow wagon, it would be Archon > Osie > Jenna > Voxx > Vaimes in descending order of scumminess, btw.
Probably should have focused more on Jenna today but I don't own a decoder ring. Reading her posts feels like I'm reading NG logs from Polarity Hunt. I don't want to play the synonyms game, I want to play the mafia game. I feel like she's going to survive way longer than she should just off the back of Homestuck memes and deliberate obfuscation. Would probably like her to prove that she doesn't have any problems voting Osie, but. Lol.
Torg is someone who's escaped my notice a lot but I think he's town? Don't think he'd call out Archon like that if they were w/w. Possibly could be mafia with Osie and Jenna because his read on Osie keeps changing but he wants to lynch both Osie and Jenna so ??? If there is a world where neither Archon nor Osie are mafia, then dude climbs way up my scum rankings.
Osie is strange? I feel like today's lynch has been forced to be between him and me and that feels really bad? If Archon and Osie are both somehow town and we wasted our entire day I'm going to *****. His posts are ok and he's actually been in the thread which is honestly... another reason I want to lynch Archon over him... but every time I make a theory about what he's doing, all he can say is "wow.... that seems like a bad plan......." to defend himself and I don't know if I'm being lolcatted at or what????
Think high odds one of Beru/Reaverb are scum at least, as some last words. But me dying does not implicate them, treat it as the wifom it is, since I'm an obvious shot.
(Pardon the lack of flavor, I've got a lot on my plate unfortunately.)
Vaimes has died in the night! He was Elvira, Town Tracker.
Livelist:
01. TubbaFett
02. DoTArchon
03. Voxxicus
04. Reaverb Tau
05. Grapefruit21 r. A Bear
06. King Torg
07. shadowlancerx
08. Jenna Tolaria
09. Colin
10. Killjoy r. Empoof
Hey, I hope you can accept my apologies for missing EoD.
Sucks to lose Bear, now all my friends have been replaced. ;(
As previously requested by , here's an expansion of how I felt about Tubba. I've also added all content from him since then.
#47 - Irrelevant RVS, therefore it's ignored.
#95 - As I said before, this feels like a lame attempt at getting town-cred. It's such a meaningless post that tries to come across as if something of value is in it.
#99 - 100% fluff, which again attempted to come across as if there's value.
#104 - Unnecessary post. These try to promote the impression of activity when doing nothing at all.
#106 - I honestly don't know. Completely pointless though.
#107 - A weak attempt at a defence of #104.
#124 - No actual substance to the read.
#130 - An alarming amount of narration. Describing what has happened without actually giving any input on it is very scummy. The questions at Jenna are an attempt at interaction (however, see #140).
#131 - Pure narration. This is pointless fluff.
#136 - A very defensive post, that seems disproportionate to what has happened.
#140 - Having seen the answers the questions he asked, he has no opinion on it and asks for no clarification to clear up his lack of understanding.
#150 & #153 - Tau in #151 brings up a good point. If one is so conscious of waiting to vote and fully assessing the situation then why participate in RVS which completely contradicts this? I am a player that likes to think my vote matters. Therefore I am very careful about when I place it and why. If I had a strong scum-read which Tubba had I'd be voting on it instantly instead of deciding to "wait and see what else happened." (Also #140 is relevant to this)
The rest is after my post containing my initial read.
#160 - A complete lack of asking about the read, or trying to gain information of any sort. Just another fluff post.
#194 - Repetition, and it seems very early to be pushing a world on people.
#198 - He states towards me "your statement that you don't think I'm posting like mafia is somewhat troubling" when I've said his posts are a guide to how not to post as mafia. This means that he is very much posting like mafia. Tubba then goes on to say that I find him deceptively scummy, which is nothing close to what I have said. Also, I don't know about anyone else but I can read content as scummy without directly interacting.
#260 - Mostly a repetition post. A couple of names added to his scum-circle, but no actual substance.
#276 - If he's got not previous experience with Bear, why the RVS?
#279 - This feels like an empty question. It seems to me that there isn't actually anything of value that would come from it.
#292 - Where did my name go? If he's reading me in his "top three" as he previously mentioned, why am I no longer on the chopping block? This reads to me as him realising that he's not going to get any sort of traction on that particular mis-lynch so he's forgotten it. It was never actually a read.
#304 - More trying to push his world on others. Further pushing for others to provide content for him, as he is unable to do so alone.
#324, #326, #328, #337 - No content here. There's no strong attempt to push the lynch through too. This is his number one scum and she might not get lynched. Where's the passion?
I believe that Tubba Fett has provided a clear history of defensive and tunneling posts which have provided little, if any value.
Upon lining up all of his "content" together, I do not see how Tubba can be town.
Gonna read through Vaimes when I have a chance, though I don't expect to find much.
Vote Count 1.Final osieorb18 - 7 (DoTArchon, Tubba Fett, Killjoy, King Torg, shadowlancerx, Voxxicus, A Bear) (L-0)
A Bear - 2 (Vaimes, osieorb18)
DoTArchon - 2 (Jenna Tolaria, Reaverb Tau)
Not Voting - 1 (Colin)
Based solely on this vote count my rough guess of the scum team would be one of [Tubba, King Torg], one of [Jenna, Reaverb], and Bearfruit. Will see what interactions look like and go from here.
Please do not post "proof" of real life obligations to validate thread absences. It can create a slippery slope where an undue burden is placed on players who simply don't feel like posting more often than once every 24/48 hours to "prove" why they weren't in thread.
This falls under rule #2 as a form of angle shooting. Further violations of rule #2 will result in modkills.
Thanks. You may carry on with the killing each other and so forth.
(Just quoting to see if this actually ends up happening.)
I mean, I agree that she's doing it on purpose, but not for reasons that make her mafia. Maybe it isn't tripping any alarms for me because I'm too familiar with Homestuck syntax. I swear I'll come back to this, but overall I think that she wouldn't blatantly avoid questions directed at her as scum. Like, on top of the roleplaying, that's a little much. Does she think she can get away with all that (wine wine wine "you're doing it right now, Vaimes! letting her off for it!!" wine)?
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Not quoting ruru's 209, but re: the section on DoTA that says "no one is townreading him, but no one wants to vote him either." idk, I feel like /someone/ would be actively bussing him if he were mafia. He's almost certainly going to be lynched at some point if flipped interactions or roleclaims don't work out in his favor.
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Kinda ready to slot Reaverb as Town For Now?
Voxx's "Reaverb feels wooden" is eh. I think he felt wooden in the recent-ish MU Witchhunt, and was town. I don't think I ever had a read on him that game. Words words words. He had a post I liked on page six or something, enough to make him TFN. In any case, I think Bear is woodenerer.
I see several people with high Bear reads, and I'm like ???. I can't wait to come back to that after bear-hunting.
@Shadow
I have Dot and Osie in a similar place in my mind. Explain what the difference is. If you think Osie's scummy, why park your vote on someone you haven't really mentioned? I guess I don't understand what you mean when you want to put off Osie till later. What is the benefit?
Now to work on that Osie post.
Wagon on me feels like it gained traction out of nowhere... but I'd be really surprised if any of Vaimes, Voxx, or Shadow were actually mafia? It's going to be interesting to see what the tail end of my wagon is like if I actually get lynched. Meanwhile, Osie's vote feels like he was waiting for someone to provide him with a good enough reason to vote for me, tbh. Don't mind swapping to Osie if I have to.
My problems with mobile aren't ad-based. It's like... the text is literally like 5 pixels high in the post field when writing so I can't see ***** on my 2014 phone, especially while using flux (twilight) + the page loads very slowly and in strange chunks and it's only by grace that I've been saved from accidentally liking posts when trying to swap pages because it can suddenly load something and move the buttons around... but mostly the first one. I can't see the ***** I'm typing. It's bad. 0/10.
Just talk.
Everything that comes into your head about this game.
Give me a sentence or two about every player purely off the top of head.
I was trying to do that but I gave up because it wasn't really working for long posts and I couldn't see if it was actually copying the entire thing because it had this tendency to skip up and down and lag when trying to highlight a lot of things now I just write my notes in Docs and turn it into one bigpost when I can get to the computer.
osieorb18 - 5 (DoTArchon, Tubba Fett, Killjoy, King Torg, shadowlancerx) (L-2)
A Bear - 3 (Vaimes, Voxxicus, osieorb18)
DoTArchon - 3 (Jenna Tolaria, A Bear, Reaverb Tau)
Not Voting - 1 (Colin)
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends at 11:59 on 15 October 2017 (1 hour 37 minutes).
If your vote is uncounted and I didn't say why, please PM me or DM me on discord so I can investigate.
As much as I'm not really town reading Osie, I have literally one town read on that wagon (Killjoy).
Hum.
Osie first got on my radar with the vote on Voxx. It felt... off. Like he was just trying to do... something.
Osie's 118 is the next thing that bothered me. Its a train of thought post, Except some of the questions are meaningless (how much wood could a woodchuck chuck?)
The Reads list in 129 is another thing. Its full of weak townreads and fence sitting.Gives him the freedom to mostly go anywhere with his reads should he need to.
The whole post on Jenna seems ridiculous. IDK if Osie just didn't think that through, but what I (and now Vaimes) have alluded to is that the way she's doing this isn't something scum would necessarily do.
I pointed out 220. 200 posts into the game where quite a bit has happened and his best lynches are all based on his tinfoil worlds instead of ACTUAL things.
245, 277 are just barning Voxx. 277 in particular I'm annoyed he's not here to answer my question becuase it's very important.I need him to answer what behavior he objected to. It looks outwardly like he's just trying to copy Voxx with no reasons of his own.
The only thing thats giving me pause here (that I'm realizing right now) is that, ISOing him... nothing seems town.Like... nothing. Its all either superficial or scum.So. Shrug?
But all this stuff still adds up to scum, I think.
Who's here? LEts chitchat.
I don't recall you having an opinion on Colin. Can you spell that out for me a bit?
Only one realistic option, with deadline 40 minutes away.
Vote: osieorb18
I think he's probably going to flip town. Game is too still and peaceful. Wolves are content, they know we have no other choice. There are still worlds where he is a wolf, and I don't feel strongly enough about his towniness in a vacuum to no lynch over not lynching him, just..
Gameflow is a thing.
Virtually no one on his wagon being villagery is a thing.
Eh.
I just. This is Beru's 'Hi I should be around until EoD' postings. While being a wagon. While needing majority to lynch.
Meh.
Hopefully one of Vaimes, Beru, Reaverb, Colin, etc show up to vote Osie in the nedt 15 minutes I guess. Or d2 is going to be Round Two: Fight, except probably with me dead.
Good luck with that.
Need one of:
Beruru
Jenna
Vaimes
Colin
Reaverb
to vote Osie, or we no lynch.
Ok, sure.
You're town. Do you want more words on why I think you're town? Not sure if that's useful because of your meta, but your posts on the subject are tending towards entering in the wifom olympics so I'm just going to write you off and see what happens.
Vaimes parked his vote on me fairly early and hasn't let go or wanted to pursue anything else, but if he's actually mafia then I'm seriously surprised he didn't just try to go for the hard pocket on me, because it probably would have worked? I know it's wine, but I'm townreading him off of this. rip vaimes.
Was mostly giving Shadow a free townread for getting to L-2 so early? If he is mafia, his wagon miiiiight be pure. Don't think it is, though. Also don't think lynching him is a good idea... yup.
Killjoy is... not-Empoof. Rip. Honestly probably one of the top people actually trying to solve the game right now, imo? I haven't seen anything scummy from him so I haven't really been thinking about him that much, and he doesn't really fit into any of my worlds.
Colin's posts are really good and clear and pure and beautiful, but he never actually... voted anyone? Probably should have pushed him more on his reads instead of unvoting but there's only so much you can try to pressure someone to post with only one vote. Also wish he was more engaged, because I invited him here to play with him and now he hasn't..... really.............. played....................
Tubba feels like he's reaching every single time he posts a scumread? Definitely not w/w with Osie. His interactions with Osie are part of the reason why I wish that Archon was being wagoned instead - It's way more likely that Tubba/Archon is a thing than Osie/Tubba is a thing. Gets angry easily when people suspect him, and isn't really defending himself. His Osie/Colin/Reaverb OMGUS trifecta is... also not great. Accused Osie of flailing, but that feels more like he's projecting, tbh.
Reaverb feels... antsy?, might be due to long phases with nobody around. He's actually trying to push people and do things when he could easily afk and not try to push outside me/osie/archon if he was mafia, tho. Definitely not with Archon unless he's hard distancing, could likely be with Osie. Sort of always feels mechanical and dry to me (more mechanical than dry, unlike you, who is the opposite), so if you explained the "wooden" toneread, that would be great.
Archon is... well, he exists. I want to see what his finished readwall looks like before deadline, and hopefully he shows up? If he is town, I don't understand why he felt like 52 had to be made, because it's really bad. He said it was a joke, but... that feels like a poor attempt to dodge. If I had to rank the people on the Shadow wagon, it would be Archon > Osie > Jenna > Voxx > Vaimes in descending order of scumminess, btw.
Probably should have focused more on Jenna today but I don't own a decoder ring. Reading her posts feels like I'm reading NG logs from Polarity Hunt. I don't want to play the synonyms game, I want to play the mafia game. I feel like she's going to survive way longer than she should just off the back of Homestuck memes and deliberate obfuscation. Would probably like her to prove that she doesn't have any problems voting Osie, but. Lol.
Torg is someone who's escaped my notice a lot but I think he's town? Don't think he'd call out Archon like that if they were w/w. Possibly could be mafia with Osie and Jenna because his read on Osie keeps changing but he wants to lynch both Osie and Jenna so ??? If there is a world where neither Archon nor Osie are mafia, then dude climbs way up my scum rankings.
Osie is strange? I feel like today's lynch has been forced to be between him and me and that feels really bad? If Archon and Osie are both somehow town and we wasted our entire day I'm going to *****. His posts are ok and he's actually been in the thread which is honestly... another reason I want to lynch Archon over him... but every time I make a theory about what he's doing, all he can say is "wow.... that seems like a bad plan......." to defend himself and I don't know if I'm being lolcatted at or what????
This took too long... tfw adult adhd. v Ov
Vote Osie, or we no lynch.
Vaimes, Beru, Reaverb, Colin, Jenna, someone.
Vote: Osieorb18
Think high odds one of Beru/Reaverb are scum at least, as some last words. But me dying does not implicate them, treat it as the wifom it is, since I'm an obvious shot.
osieorb18 - 7 (DoTArchon, Tubba Fett, Killjoy, King Torg, shadowlancerx, Voxxicus, A Bear) (L-0)
A Bear - 2 (Vaimes, osieorb18)
DoTArchon - 2 (Jenna Tolaria, Reaverb Tau)
Not Voting - 1 (Colin)
osieorb18 was lynched as of post #334. He was Alaric, Town Vanilla.
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Vaimes has died in the night! He was Elvira, Town Tracker.
Livelist:
01. TubbaFett
02. DoTArchon
03. Voxxicus
04. Reaverb Tau
05. Grapefruit21 r. A Bear
06. King Torg
07. shadowlancerx
08. Jenna Tolaria
09. Colin
10. Killjoy r. Empoof
With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 deadline is 11:59 PM Eastern on 29 October.
It is now Day 2. You may post.
Continuing pursuit.
Sucks to lose Bear, now all my friends have been replaced. ;(
As previously requested by , here's an expansion of how I felt about Tubba. I've also added all content from him since then.
#47 - Irrelevant RVS, therefore it's ignored.
#95 - As I said before, this feels like a lame attempt at getting town-cred. It's such a meaningless post that tries to come across as if something of value is in it.
#99 - 100% fluff, which again attempted to come across as if there's value.
#104 - Unnecessary post. These try to promote the impression of activity when doing nothing at all.
#106 - I honestly don't know. Completely pointless though.
#107 - A weak attempt at a defence of #104.
#124 - No actual substance to the read.
#130 - An alarming amount of narration. Describing what has happened without actually giving any input on it is very scummy. The questions at Jenna are an attempt at interaction (however, see #140).
#131 - Pure narration. This is pointless fluff.
#136 - A very defensive post, that seems disproportionate to what has happened.
#140 - Having seen the answers the questions he asked, he has no opinion on it and asks for no clarification to clear up his lack of understanding.
#150 & #153 - Tau in #151 brings up a good point. If one is so conscious of waiting to vote and fully assessing the situation then why participate in RVS which completely contradicts this? I am a player that likes to think my vote matters. Therefore I am very careful about when I place it and why. If I had a strong scum-read which Tubba had I'd be voting on it instantly instead of deciding to "wait and see what else happened." (Also #140 is relevant to this)
The rest is after my post containing my initial read.
#160 - A complete lack of asking about the read, or trying to gain information of any sort. Just another fluff post.
#194 - Repetition, and it seems very early to be pushing a world on people.
#198 - He states towards me "your statement that you don't think I'm posting like mafia is somewhat troubling" when I've said his posts are a guide to how not to post as mafia. This means that he is very much posting like mafia. Tubba then goes on to say that I find him deceptively scummy, which is nothing close to what I have said. Also, I don't know about anyone else but I can read content as scummy without directly interacting.
#260 - Mostly a repetition post. A couple of names added to his scum-circle, but no actual substance.
#276 - If he's got not previous experience with Bear, why the RVS?
#279 - This feels like an empty question. It seems to me that there isn't actually anything of value that would come from it.
#292 - Where did my name go? If he's reading me in his "top three" as he previously mentioned, why am I no longer on the chopping block? This reads to me as him realising that he's not going to get any sort of traction on that particular mis-lynch so he's forgotten it. It was never actually a read.
#304 - More trying to push his world on others. Further pushing for others to provide content for him, as he is unable to do so alone.
#324, #326, #328, #337 - No content here. There's no strong attempt to push the lynch through too. This is his number one scum and she might not get lynched. Where's the passion?
I believe that Tubba Fett has provided a clear history of defensive and tunneling posts which have provided little, if any value.
Upon lining up all of his "content" together, I do not see how Tubba can be town.
Vote: Tubba Fett
Vote Count 1.Final
osieorb18 - 7 (DoTArchon, Tubba Fett, Killjoy, King Torg, shadowlancerx, Voxxicus, A Bear) (L-0)
A Bear - 2 (Vaimes, osieorb18)
DoTArchon - 2 (Jenna Tolaria, Reaverb Tau)
Not Voting - 1 (Colin)
Based solely on this vote count my rough guess of the scum team would be one of [Tubba, King Torg], one of [Jenna, Reaverb], and Bearfruit. Will see what interactions look like and go from here.
Please do not post "proof" of real life obligations to validate thread absences. It can create a slippery slope where an undue burden is placed on players who simply don't feel like posting more often than once every 24/48 hours to "prove" why they weren't in thread.
This falls under rule #2 as a form of angle shooting. Further violations of rule #2 will result in modkills.
Thanks. You may carry on with the killing each other and so forth.