Loyal Subjects of Sonasland: 2/16 EternalLurkerCantripmancer TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - William Black, the King’s Houndmaster - Mafia Backup Pa Tennis Tomsloger - Salazina Salazorn - Mafia Goon
The Until Quite Recently Loyal Subject of Sonasland: 14/16 BluesEclipse Grapefruit21 - Obadiah Whitebeard - Town Vanilla - Lynched Day 1
Rhand - Charles Cabbage - Town Inventor - Killed Night 1
Zionite - Billy “Fingers” Malone, Street Urchin - Town Vanilla - Lynched Day 2
Vaimes - Doctor Nicholas Liston - Town Doctor - Killed Night 2
Tubba Fett - Sideshow Vincent - Mafia Watcher - Lynched Day 3 Study Latin AskThePizzaGuy - Sven Svensonsonson - Town Vanilla - Killed Night 3
LnGrrrR - Evan, The Necromancer - Mafia Redirector - Lynched Day 4
Kabazame - Sergeant Robert "Bob" Hodge - Town Cop - Killed Night 4
Anaklusmos - Gouge-Me-Own-Eyes-Out Dobbler - Town Vanilla - Daykilled Day 5
Killjoy - Margrave Guillelmus the Bard - Town Vanilla - Lynched Day 5
Toastboy - Eleonor Chacón Velásquez - Town Duelist - Killed Night 5
JeyK - Gareth, Legendary Bearer of the Most Gnarly Hangover - Town Vanilla - Lynched Day 6
Rodemy - The Crazy Old Man who Thinks he is a Goat - Town Vanilla - Killed in Endgame
Shadowlancer - Sir Roysten the Handsome - Town Vanilla - Killed in Endgame
Potential Subjects of Sonasland
Prophylaxis
Regfan
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This game will use my super fancy vote counter. As a result, votes MUST follow some simple rules in order to count. These rules are detailed here. Fundamentally, so long as your vote is within its own set of bold tags, you should be fine. If your vote is not counted, simply revote. I will try and point out invalid votes.
It is late into the Night, and the feast is winding down. The river of drink is drying up, and citizens are tired. Even the city clock shows its sympathy by chiming midnight three minutes late. The main feasting hall itself is starting to thin out, the departing trickle carefully stepping over their unconscious compatriots.
A shout steeped in dread echoes through the castle:
"The King is dead!"
Maldorvo bursts into the main hall. The atmosphere of celebration is shattered. The castle springs into a very different kind of life: succession has often been handled violently and abruptly. There are systems and procedures in place that slide swiftly into action. The coroner is summoned. The chief Justice is got out of bed. The doors to the main chamber are locked. The King's guard begin shredding rotas and creating alibis.
The coroner arrives and is hurried through the hall into another room. Time passes as the castle holds its breath. He emerges.
"Sixteen stab wounds primarily to the back. A ligature around the throat. Froth at the mouth indicating fast-acting poison. Head trauma from blunt object(s). An arrow through both legs. Banana peel residue to soles of feet."
Maldorvo throws his hand to his head. He has been preparing for this moment. "Why, 'tis suicide!" he proclaims. The eyerolling within the room is virtually audible.
"Why, with the King's only son and heir being not of age, I must with heavy.." He pauses to check a small cue card "heart, I must assume the position of Prince Regent and the total control which is most regrettably entails".
"Not so fast", The Chief Justice Ecophagy (a surprisingly common name in Sonasland) strides into the room still wearing his sleeping cap. "With the death of a king, there must be an investigation". Maldorvo curses - the Chief Justice has proved remarkably unbribeable for a man of his station.
No King has ever died without a conspiracy behind it. What's more, no successful conspiracy has ever occurred without the ringleaders at the scene of the crime. The doors have been barred, protected by the members of the King's Guard who have an awful lot to make up for. We shall perform the ancient custom to root out the conspirators: the good citizens of this country must discover them amongst themselves, whereupon they will be immediately put to death. No conspiracy has even been able to remain concealed within this foolproof investigative rigour.
Maldorvo nervously pats the sweat from his forehead with a silken hankerchief. He has chosen the most valuable, most motivated, and most wily to assist him in this final hurdle. The King is dead and power is within Maldorvo's grasp. Only the idiot citizens of this blasted kingdom stand in his way.
The Game is Now Afoot. It is now Day 1. Day 1 will end on Sunday 6th of August at 2100 GMT
Town Win Condition: You win when all of the conspirators have been put to death. Mafia Win Condition: You win when you equal or outnumber the remaining players and seize control of the kingdom.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
[Side note, since this seems to be a trend now and everyone seems to be missing the fact that there is a space in my username, you all should just ignore the 'k' altogether, I highly prefer to just be called JeY anyway]
[Side note, since this seems to be a trend now and everyone seems to be missing the fact that there is a space in my username, you all should just ignore the 'k' altogether, I highly prefer to just be called JeY anyway]
Now I'm curious Unvote Vote Jey
Let's see if Eco has listed that as one of your nicknames.
Uh, whatever tone means I don't like the question? Asking who the best player is would be...something. Asking who the best scum player is sounds like Latin (ouch, can't use SL for either of you two) wants to focus on that player for fear that a good scum player could fly under the radar. Which, while it might seem logical on the surface, is a really bad idea because random alignment rolls don't care who's a good or bad scum player.
Otherwise we'd all just have to lynch you Day One, obviously. Are you asking us to do that?
Uh, whatever tone means I don't like the question? Asking who the best player is would be...something. Asking who the best scum player is sounds like Latin (ouch, can't use SL for either of you two) wants to focus on that player for fear that a good scum player could fly under the radar. Which, while it might seem logical on the surface, is a really bad idea because random alignment rolls don't care who's a good or bad scum player.
Otherwise we'd all just have to lynch you Day One, obviously. Are you asking us to do that?
It's rvs, but explain this to me. You're basing the reasoning for your vote on scum-motivation that lies in events that haven't occurred? You extrapolated the scummiest thing I could do from asking a question like that, and then voted me?
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@Shadow, why ask EL about the tone of their post specifically?
Uh, whatever tone means I don't like the question? Asking who the best player is would be...something. Asking who the best scum player is sounds like Latin (ouch, can't use SL for either of you two) wants to focus on that player for fear that a good scum player could fly under the radar. Which, while it might seem logical on the surface, is a really bad idea because random alignment rolls don't care who's a good or bad scum player.
Otherwise we'd all just have to lynch you Day One, obviously. Are you asking us to do that?
It's rvs, but explain this to me. You're basing the reasoning for your vote on scum-motivation that lies in events that haven't occurred? You extrapolated the scummiest thing I could do from asking a question like that, and then voted me?
Why are you so worried about a random vote? Also, why do you talk so formally and robotic, like your nervous and carefully choosing your words?
Do you have a secret? Are you worried someone might find out what you did??
[Side note, since this seems to be a trend now and everyone seems to be missing the fact that there is a space in my username, you all should just ignore the 'k' altogether, I highly prefer to just be called JeY anyway]
Now I'm curious Unvote Vote Jey
Let's see if Eco has listed that as one of your nicknames.
If it isn't and people have to type my username incorrectly for it to count all game, I might go insane.
Why are you so worried about a random vote? Also, why do you talk so formally and robotic, like your nervous and carefully choosing your words?
Do you have a secret? Are you worried someone might find out what you did??
Well, the vote wasn't random now that you address it. He gave a reason for it which he states in #21.
I asked questions about that reasoning because the post it's based off of doesn't seem all that alignment indicative fmpov.
This is just the way I talk and think.
I haven't really done a lot so far, nor have a majority of the people in the game.
As for me "hiding" something, what from my posts feels like scum obfuscating their alignment? I'm curious as to what you see semantically that you find scummy.
You extrapolated the scummiest thing I could do from asking a question like that, and then voted me?
I extrapolated what seemed to be the most probable reason for asking a question like that. Tell me if there's another reason for it.
Note that my explanation didn't imply that the probable reasoning for the question was inherently scummy. Your being defensive about it is odd. I specifically stated that the reasoning might seem logical but was simply a bad idea, which implies more "poor play" rather than "scummy behavior".
Obviously, I wouldn't normally vote someone for a decision with which I disagree, but it's RVS, so why not?
[Side note, since this seems to be a trend now and everyone seems to be missing the fact that there is a space in my username, you all should just ignore the 'k' altogether, I highly prefer to just be called JeY anyway]
Isn't it pronounced "J K" as in "Just Kidding"? I've always assumed as much.
I extrapolated what seemed to be the most probable reason for asking a question like that. Tell me if there's another reason for it.
I didn't really think the question could be seen as alignment indicative in hindsight, which is why I questioned you gaining scumvibes from it.
Don't really think it breaks down into scummy reason nor townie reason.
Note that my explanation didn't imply that the probable reasoning for the question was inherently scummy. Your being defensive about it is odd. I specifically stated that the reasoning might seem logical but was simply a bad idea, which implies more "poor play" rather than "scummy behavior".
So you voted me for poor play as opposed to something scummy?
What exactly do you read "odd" about my questions in regards to your vote?
Obviously, I wouldn't normally vote someone for a decision with which I disagree, but it's RVS, so why not?
I thought rvs ended the moment you find something alignment indicative, thus voting would no longer be random.
@Shadow, why ask EL about the tone of their post specifically?
I was gauging Eternal's level of seriousness with his vote. Specifically, I didn't find the comment he voted you for to be alignment indicative, and wanted to see if he was joking or not. Turns out not.
[Side note, since this seems to be a trend now and everyone seems to be missing the fact that there is a space in my username, you all should just ignore the 'k' altogether, I highly prefer to just be called JeY anyway]
Now I'm curious Unvote Vote Jey
Let's see if Eco has listed that as one of your nicknames.
If it isn't and people have to type my username incorrectly for it to count all game, I might go insane.
@Latin: You just quoted three parts of my post and responded to each separately, even though each subsequent part specifically answers your previous response. C'mon. Do you just want me to repeat myself by answering you again? No thanks.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
and cuz Killjoy's calling me-vs-Latin a TvT situation, which isn't really helpful for scum to proclaim in this situation, so I'll trust the outsider's perspective for now
Doesn't mean he doesn't have one. You're so sure of me being town at this point that chainsawing to my defense feels right?
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and cuz Killjoy's calling me-vs-Latin a TvT situation, which isn't really helpful for scum to proclaim in this situation, so I'll trust the outsider's perspective for now
Why do you assume I find his lack of a vote scummy? Depending on his answer, it's either null or slightly more likely to be a town decision.
You said that it's something he's never done before. Uncommon behavior implies something is different from the norm about his role or alignment, thus inducing that odd behavior. Given that people should rand Town more often than Mafia, an alignment "different from the norm" would mean scum. It's possible he instead has an uncommon Town role making him act differently, but chances are that uncommon behavior means scummy behavior, just by math.
It's also possible that this is null, obviously, but why call attention to it if you think it's null?
Doesn't mean he doesn't have one. You're so sure of me being town at this point that chainsawing to my defense feels right?
...Huh? It's a pressure-vote to find out what the explanation is, not a chainsaw under the presumption that he doesn't have one. In case it wasn't clear yet, I'm not afraid of throwing my vote around to get people to speak. When I specifically ask someone to explain something and they pointedly quote every part of my post except that request, of course I'm gonna be testy about the dodge.
If his rationale for voting you is good, I'm perfectly willing to switch my vote to you. So you can dispense with your apparent belief that I'm scum pocketing you. You'd be the last person I'd pocket if I were scum. (Anak would be my pick.)
Pretty close to null, as with most people given how early into the game we are right now. When I have a seemingly better place for my vote pressure, I'm willing to put a fight on hold if I'm told that it's TvT by someone who I don't yet have a reason to scum-read.
Why do you assume I find his lack of a vote scummy? Depending on his answer, it's either null or slightly more likely to be a town decision.
You said that it's something he's never done before. Uncommon behavior implies something is different from the norm about his role or alignment, thus inducing that odd behavior. Given that people should rand Town more often than Mafia, an alignment "different from the norm" would mean scum. It's possible he instead has an uncommon Town role making him act differently, but chances are that uncommon behavior means scummy behavior, just by math.
It's also possible that this is null, obviously, but why call attention to it if you think it's null?
I disagree, but I'd still rather wait for an answer to discuss it further.
If his rationale for voting you is good, I'm perfectly willing to switch my vote to you. So you can dispense with your apparent belief that I'm scum pocketing you. You'd be the last person I'd pocket if I were scum. (Anak would be my pick.)
Getting a little cheeky, I'm amused. Never crossed my mind that you were trying to pocket me, but I'll dispense with scum reading you when I feel like you're not being scummy.
Pretty close to null, as with most people given how early into the game we are right now. When I have a seemingly better place for my vote pressure, I'm willing to put a fight on hold if I'm told that it's TvT by someone who I don't yet have a reason to scum-read.
Getting a little cheeky, I'm amused. Never crossed my mind that you were trying to pocket me, but I'll dispense with scum reading you when I feel like you're not being scummy.
"never crossed your mind"
sure, that's clearly what "You're so sure of me being town that chainsawing to my defense feels right?" means
I'm fine with being scum-read right at the start of Day One; it's a common side effect of my hatred of RVS, as my efforts to pull us out of that stage inevitably result in me being the noisiest person in the thread. But at least stick to your guns in your scum-read. I'm not fine with being targeted by an amorphous non-argument that can't actually be debated because it's just "you're scummy, and my reasons for stating that will change whenever you pin them down".
Pretty close to null, as with most people given how early into the game we are right now.
My only significantly non-null reads right now are slight scum-reads on Anak and Tennis. My Town-leans on Killjoy and Kabazame are light enough as to be pretty much null. Which, given we'd still be in RVS if I hadn't forced us out of it, should not be surprising.
Though it's nice of you to try to help with that by giving me enough interaction to get a read on you. Not quite sure this read'll end up the way you'd like, but we'll see.
Loyal Subjects of Sonasland: 2/16
EternalLurkerCantripmancerTheRealStinkyJoeTerry - William Black, the King’s Houndmaster - Mafia BackupPa TennisTomsloger - Salazina Salazorn - Mafia GoonThe Until Quite Recently Loyal Subject of Sonasland: 14/16
BluesEclipseGrapefruit21 - Obadiah Whitebeard - Town Vanilla - Lynched Day 1Rhand - Charles Cabbage - Town Inventor - Killed Night 1
Zionite - Billy “Fingers” Malone, Street Urchin - Town Vanilla - Lynched Day 2
Vaimes - Doctor Nicholas Liston - Town Doctor - Killed Night 2
Tubba Fett - Sideshow Vincent - Mafia Watcher - Lynched Day 3
Study LatinAskThePizzaGuy - Sven Svensonsonson - Town Vanilla - Killed Night 3LnGrrrR - Evan, The Necromancer - Mafia Redirector - Lynched Day 4
Kabazame - Sergeant Robert "Bob" Hodge - Town Cop - Killed Night 4
Anaklusmos - Gouge-Me-Own-Eyes-Out Dobbler - Town Vanilla - Daykilled Day 5
Killjoy - Margrave Guillelmus the Bard - Town Vanilla - Lynched Day 5
Toastboy - Eleonor Chacón Velásquez - Town Duelist - Killed Night 5
JeyK - Gareth, Legendary Bearer of the Most Gnarly Hangover - Town Vanilla - Lynched Day 6
Rodemy - The Crazy Old Man who Thinks he is a Goat - Town Vanilla - Killed in Endgame
Shadowlancer - Sir Roysten the Handsome - Town Vanilla - Killed in Endgame
Potential Subjects of Sonasland
Prophylaxis
Regfan
Events
Day 2 Start
End Day 2
Day 4 Start
Day 5 Start
Day 5 Daykill
End of Day 5
End of Day 6 - Game Over!
Setup Reveal
Rules
Deadlines and Activity
Voting
This game will use my super fancy vote counter. As a result, votes MUST follow some simple rules in order to count. These rules are detailed here. Fundamentally, so long as your vote is within its own set of bold tags, you should be fine. If your vote is not counted, simply revote. I will try and point out invalid votes.
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EDIT: All role PMs are now out. Once we have a good chunk of confirms we'll get things rolling!
A shout steeped in dread echoes through the castle:
"The King is dead!"
Maldorvo bursts into the main hall. The atmosphere of celebration is shattered. The castle springs into a very different kind of life: succession has often been handled violently and abruptly. There are systems and procedures in place that slide swiftly into action. The coroner is summoned. The chief Justice is got out of bed. The doors to the main chamber are locked. The King's guard begin shredding rotas and creating alibis.
The coroner arrives and is hurried through the hall into another room. Time passes as the castle holds its breath. He emerges.
"Sixteen stab wounds primarily to the back. A ligature around the throat. Froth at the mouth indicating fast-acting poison. Head trauma from blunt object(s). An arrow through both legs. Banana peel residue to soles of feet."
Maldorvo throws his hand to his head. He has been preparing for this moment. "Why, 'tis suicide!" he proclaims. The eyerolling within the room is virtually audible.
"Why, with the King's only son and heir being not of age, I must with heavy.." He pauses to check a small cue card "heart, I must assume the position of Prince Regent and the total control which is most regrettably entails".
"Not so fast", The Chief Justice Ecophagy (a surprisingly common name in Sonasland) strides into the room still wearing his sleeping cap. "With the death of a king, there must be an investigation". Maldorvo curses - the Chief Justice has proved remarkably unbribeable for a man of his station.
No King has ever died without a conspiracy behind it. What's more, no successful conspiracy has ever occurred without the ringleaders at the scene of the crime. The doors have been barred, protected by the members of the King's Guard who have an awful lot to make up for. We shall perform the ancient custom to root out the conspirators: the good citizens of this country must discover them amongst themselves, whereupon they will be immediately put to death. No conspiracy has even been able to remain concealed within this foolproof investigative rigour.
Maldorvo nervously pats the sweat from his forehead with a silken hankerchief. He has chosen the most valuable, most motivated, and most wily to assist him in this final hurdle. The King is dead and power is within Maldorvo's grasp. Only the idiot citizens of this blasted kingdom stand in his way.
The Game is Now Afoot. It is now Day 1. Day 1 will end on Sunday 6th of August at 2100 GMT
Town Win Condition: You win when all of the conspirators have been put to death.
Mafia Win Condition: You win when you equal or outnumber the remaining players and seize control of the kingdom.
Vote JeyK
He knows what he did. He knows the price that must be paid.
Vote: Rodemy
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
vote Iso
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Vote: Zionite
Open question: who on this playerlist has the best scumgame?
Welcome back to the game! Also die dirty mafia scum.
I will vote you sooner or later anyways
Vote: Study Latin
I'm interested only to gain an idea of the site-meta and overall skill level of players here.
You don't have to answer it if you don't want to.
i refuse
*Not so secretly hopes that people answer your question with "Shadow"*
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Unvote Vote Kabazame
Didn't RVS vote! Obv scum!!!!
This game marks the first of something for me, and I'm pretty interested to see how it goes.
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Unvote Vote Jey
Let's see if Eco has listed that as one of your nicknames.
Otherwise we'd all just have to lynch you Day One, obviously. Are you asking us to do that?
It's rvs, but explain this to me. You're basing the reasoning for your vote on scum-motivation that lies in events that haven't occurred? You extrapolated the scummiest thing I could do from asking a question like that, and then voted me?
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@Shadow, why ask EL about the tone of their post specifically?
Also vote seppel
You said that in signups... are you just being lazy scum this game?
Why are you so worried about a random vote? Also, why do you talk so formally and robotic, like your nervous and carefully choosing your words?
Do you have a secret? Are you worried someone might find out what you did??
Vote: Eternal Lurker
That vote felt forced.
@Rodemy, I had to finish the joke
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
If it isn't and people have to type my username incorrectly for it to count all game, I might go insane.
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Well, the vote wasn't random now that you address it. He gave a reason for it which he states in #21.
I asked questions about that reasoning because the post it's based off of doesn't seem all that alignment indicative fmpov.
This is just the way I talk and think.
I haven't really done a lot so far, nor have a majority of the people in the game.
As for me "hiding" something, what from my posts feels like scum obfuscating their alignment? I'm curious as to what you see semantically that you find scummy.
I still find that question scummy, but that wouldn't be enough for me to vote if not for RVS.
Note that my explanation didn't imply that the probable reasoning for the question was inherently scummy. Your being defensive about it is odd. I specifically stated that the reasoning might seem logical but was simply a bad idea, which implies more "poor play" rather than "scummy behavior".
Obviously, I wouldn't normally vote someone for a decision with which I disagree, but it's RVS, so why not?
Isn't it pronounced "J K" as in "Just Kidding"? I've always assumed as much.
Correct; It's pronounced like the letters. But my actual name is JeY
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Don't really think it breaks down into scummy reason nor townie reason.
So you voted me for poor play as opposed to something scummy?
What exactly do you read "odd" about my questions in regards to your vote?
I thought rvs ended the moment you find something alignment indicative, thus voting would no longer be random.
Explain how it is leading. Like, go through your thought process.
If you think he will use that info for fear mongering...i have news..
By even mentioning that is what he COULD do, you, yourself, are fearmongering.
I'm lightly townreading Kabazame.
I'm gonna be a stick in the mud, no RVS vote from me.
Vote: LnGrrrR
Because everyone knows old men can't play tennis.
Early townreads to Eternal for casting a real vote and Kabazame for refusing to take part in the randomness.
Vote Shadowlancerx
Yeah, that's...new.
Kinda wanna switch my vote, but I already opened by voting Vaimes, so I'll let you do the honors if you'd like.
You assume correctly.
Light townread on Latin. Decent townread on Lurker.
Potential light scumread on Rodemy.
Unvote as we're done with RVS.
making a note here: huge success
Anywho.
Vote: Pa Tennis cuz...that is not an explanation
and cuz Killjoy's calling me-vs-Latin a TvT situation, which isn't really helpful for scum to proclaim in this situation, so I'll trust the outsider's perspective for now
It's also possible that this is null, obviously, but why call attention to it if you think it's null?
If his rationale for voting you is good, I'm perfectly willing to switch my vote to you. So you can dispense with your apparent belief that I'm scum pocketing you. You'd be the last person I'd pocket if I were scum. (Anak would be my pick.)
Pretty close to null, as with most people given how early into the game we are right now. When I have a seemingly better place for my vote pressure, I'm willing to put a fight on hold if I'm told that it's TvT by someone who I don't yet have a reason to scum-read.
sure, that's clearly what "You're so sure of me being town that chainsawing to my defense feels right?" means
I'm fine with being scum-read right at the start of Day One; it's a common side effect of my hatred of RVS, as my efforts to pull us out of that stage inevitably result in me being the noisiest person in the thread. But at least stick to your guns in your scum-read. I'm not fine with being targeted by an amorphous non-argument that can't actually be debated because it's just "you're scummy, and my reasons for stating that will change whenever you pin them down".
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My only significantly non-null reads right now are slight scum-reads on Anak and Tennis. My Town-leans on Killjoy and Kabazame are light enough as to be pretty much null. Which, given we'd still be in RVS if I hadn't forced us out of it, should not be surprising.
Though it's nice of you to try to help with that by giving me enough interaction to get a read on you. Not quite sure this read'll end up the way you'd like, but we'll see.