@Bloodmoon: King Torg does basically no actual questioning and just comments as things happen around him. And his reasons for voting or not voti are flimsy at best.
@Megs: you have a point that Osie is probably scum, but King Torg is as well. What's your read on him?
Like, Blues could be a goat, but I don't like their interactions with Mog or ELph. Though if ELph is in fact town, then the lock is a little risky. But less so in this game than other games since a scum!Blues can play the long game there. I do get the feeling that a duck is a duck, though, and Blues is just town. Which leaves me with the group I mentioned before unless I see more cues.
Osie, what jumped out at you that made you not like the interactions there? I'm trying to get the whole picture so that I can see what is being saw by you.
The fact that ELph pushed someone then Mog and Blues both jumped on that person more than once really bothered me. The coaching from BE and ELph bothered me some. Mog's attitude has felt weird throughout.
I hadn't thoroughly read Ophidia as of yet during the first post, and the thought that the game break might be NAI and I was just WIFOMing myself came to mind. Ophidia seemed like they were doing the same thing that EL was doing, of trying too hard to be the GOAT and the leader. And I at least believe that Ophidia can do better than that.
@Vaimes: When Ophidia flips town, who do you read as scum?
@Osieorb18: You go from scumread on Mog in #493 to 'newb town' on Mog in #495. Please explain. Also, when Ophidia flips town, who are your picks for scumteam?
[KT, Vaimes], [Meg, Mog], [Juls, Shadow] in that order (Brackets are to denote scumlean/neutral/townlean). I was going to include you, but then I read the cop post.
@Osie: Regarding EL's iso, I'd say town with a couple of reservations. Hey, any specific reason you're "guessing you replaced into a VT slot" but also "only town lean on your slot, and wary because [you're a good scum player]" kinda seems like you're both hedging a read on me and role fishing.
Town, hmm. It felt to me like he was trying too hard to lead people. Ehh. That latter bit was a joke. Don't worry, I won't try to pocket the heck out of you this game.
I am Thraximundar, Town 1-Shot Cop. I investigated Ophidia last night - with D_V flipping town, I decided that it was best to check and see if the other slot that had a major role in that was town (since I knew I was). This is why I'm absolutely certain that they are town. Lynch me if you think I'm lying - the ability's not going to do me any more good at this point anyway.
Welp. That changes things. Not sure how I feel about people now, then. I'mma ISO some people who I'm less certain on.
osieorb is >50% scum in this spot, and I say that having read 0 of his posts.
Hi Meg, how are you?
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Not OMGUSing my original light town read on AT just because of Meg, as tempting as it may be.
So with a mislynch on D_V, shot on Rhand, mislynch on me, shot on one of the confirmed town, that leaves us in MyLo. I'd not suggest it, but if that's the avenue y'all want to push...
why are people voting for king torg? what's the case there?
for those following along, note osiorb completely ignoring me (look at the specific post he quoted for a clue) and shadowlancer backpedaling hard the moment i called him out.
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why are people voting for king torg? what's the case there?
for those following along, note osiorb completely ignoring me (look at the specific post he quoted for a clue) and shadowlancer backpedaling hard the moment i called him out.
He's not actually scum hunting, just commenting on everything as it transpires around him.
It's not backpedaling when I was actually incorrect. I still think your slot is reasonably likely to be scum.
note osiorb completely ignoring me (look at the specific post he quoted for a clue)
You picked two posts by the person I replaced and declared that they were categorically scummy without explanation, and then went to my first post and voted me with only an implication that post was also scummy. That's not a case to argue against, that's you coming in and saying "You're scum because I feel like it." It doesn't warrant much more of a comment than this unless you'd like to explain why you find those three posts to be an extreme scumtell. Also, I'm here to find scum, not to waste time on this crap.
King Torg was lurking, had very few good posts when here, and argued for people based on them lurking and not providing good posts. There's little good explanation until people start to call him out, he's defensive, and his reads haven't evolved. He also flips like nobody's business and goes with the consensus.
i didn't say your post was scummy, don't mischaractarize me.
here's the deal. your predecessor was scum. you, fortunately for us, replaced into his slot. unfortunately for you, that was a scum slot.
there isn't a case for you to argue against. that sucks for you, and i am sorry because it's not a great position to be in. but it doesn't invalidate the case.
if others would like me to explain more thoroughly the case on osiorb i can do this, not an issue.
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i didn't say your post was scummy, don't mischaractarize me.
here's the deal. your predecessor was scum. you, fortunately for us, replaced into his slot. unfortunately for you, that was a scum slot.
there isn't a case for you to argue against. that sucks for you, and i am sorry because it's not a great position to be in. but it doesn't invalidate the case.
if others would like me to explain more thoroughly the case on osiorb i can do this, not an issue.
So you're just spouting off garbage for no reason is what I'm getting here. Great.
@Megiddo I'm sure that the posts you referenced indicate osiorb as scum, but I'm really not sure where they do. Would you mind explaining a bit more for a new player?
@Vaimes Yeah, my vote on you was primarily based off of fugg's posts, so there's not much more I can do to prod at that right now. Unvote.
@Blues Is roleclaiming like that something people normally do?
I'll post more tonight, I have to drive somewhere for the next couple of hours.
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-Barney Stinson
I'm going to limit the scope of this post to the posts I referenced during my catchup. I'll go back to analyze the rest later (as it may change my mind on this slot), but to keep this pure I'll do only those three.
First is 332. This post is one of my favorite, which is the lazy catch-up post. After some time away he is getting his head back into the game and commenting on happenings, as I did last night. The issue is that he provides mostly a summary on the game events rather than opinions on specific posts or posters.
While there are opinions here, it's more or less commentary rather than stances. And the stances that *are* taken are exclusively pointing out potential scum behavior. The reason this troubles me is that it lacks commitment but serves to cast shade on other players.
Not also the commentary on DV vs Lurker. It's very wishy-washy and ends up with a vote on EternalLurker for... some reason (315 relates to the OOG incident, and 126 to the flavor claim business). hold that thought.
Next is 354. Here we finally do get reads and such, but I saw some issues with it.
The specific part that got me to declare this post as "scum every time" is the first paragraph. When reading a big argument between two players, then natural inclination is to try and sort out the alignment of the players involved. Often the correct answer is that it's town vs town, and that's the easiest conclusion to draw when evaluating such a thing. Scum are going to take that easiest route more often than not. In this case it's funny, since nagob actually retracted a vote for one of the two players involved when calling it a TvT argument. I found this very odd. The other thing I saw here was that it was very over-explainy. When changing positions scum are more likely to provide superfluous reasons so that their decisions appear to be legitimate. That's what this looks like to me.
the vote he makes here is both 1) for the consensus "safe" candidate and 2) also over-explainy. Scum are quite reluctant to just jump onto a wagon without looking like they have a reason to be there, so we see nagob actually go through all of funingolli***'s posts before voting.
The rest of the T/S list is fairly weaksauce as well; no strong positions really.
tl;dr there, lots of unnecessary explanations for non-action. Adds up to a scummy post.
last of the three posts is 384. He ends up voting DV despite having just declared him town in (more or less) his last post. There's no progression there. He just votes for the most likely lynch candidate (DV wagon had been building by this point). So that's two in a row where he's voting the safe candidate with overexplained reasoning.
BONUS POST: 362. This is by Mograppler. I described this as a "chainsaw defense" as I saw this as Mog attacking my predecessor for attacking Nagob. On review that isn't exactly what's going on, I think...? I'm not really sure what Mog was doing here. Is mog even still in the game? Which post did you mean to quote here?
Still, Osiorb should be lynched. Mograppler is eh at this point but still in the list and worth checking out. Shadow still my #3.
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in case I get NK'd, the plan for Today is to lynch osi. if he's scum, 100% of the time without fail you lynch mograppler Tomorrow. Third will hopefully be caught by this point. look at shadowlancer but also, like, other people.
any unclaimed town PRs should claim two Days from now as part of POE, but not yet.
in case I get NK'd, the plan for Today is to lynch osi. if he's scum, 100% of the time without fail you lynch mograppler Tomorrow. Third will hopefully be caught by this point. look at shadowlancer but also, like, other people.
any unclaimed town PRs should claim two Days from now as part of POE, but not yet.
So this post puts me in a catch 22.
the only circumstances under which a player should claim their role are:
1) when they are near being lynched and their role would prevent that from happening (i.e., they have one)
2) when claiming the role would prevent a mislynch (see: cop claim earlier) or lead to a scum lynch.
3) when needed for POE, usually later in the game.
Please be guided accordingly.
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@Shadow: As I was saying, if I get mislynched, the game goes into MyLo. If Nagobcnik/Me are really your top scumread, or you're buddying up with Meg, go ahead, but it probably just loses town the game in the end.
@Mog: What are you talking about with Catch-22? Also, where are the snows of yesteryear?
Post 44 - RVS, Joke.
Post 65 - Backing down with no real opinion on Sunray, everyone is scummy or nothing.
Post 79 - Defending his vote with little substance.
Post 80 - Taking credit for EL's push on Sunray.
Post 91 - Just complaining about lurking, with strange comment about randomly accusing people.
Post 94 - Randomly accuses Mog with an explicit lack of explanation, seemingly OMGUS and/or joke.
Post 145 - Still going hard after Golli. Flips on Sunray for no reason.
Post 176 - Votes for the popular wagon with an argument based on one post.
Post 179 - At worst, OMGUS, at best, fearmongery uselessness.
Post 264 - Been busy, defends self, maintains Golli argument.
Post 265 - Clearly hasn't paid much attention to the arguments on him.
Post 271 - Still just defending himself…
Post 344 - Oh hey, it's a readlist. Mostly seems to just be trying to be inoffensive.
Post 352 - Responds a little to questions, maintains hypocritical Golli argument, flips on Mog for no reason.
Post 398 - Guys, lynch Golli! Also, maybe I should actually start pretending to be town by asking a question.
Post 414 - Following public opinion with a bad argument against D_V.
Post 440 - Voted D_V for no reason, no regrets.
Post 452 - "I'm not defending myself." Back on Vaimes (Golli)
Post 472 - ELph is town because he tunneled D_V.
Post 476 - Defending self willy-nilly.
Post 547 - Inoffensive, but contentless minus asking the same question that I just asked.
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Meg, if you're town, this is pretty dumb on your part. If you're scum, congrats.
@Bloodmoon: Could you address why you made your post 83 (because it's kinda bad)? Also, why the 180 on Nago yourself between posts 361 and 438? Also, is Vaimes really town enough to push you away from your read on Golli?
@BluesEclipse: Given what EL specifically implied, do you think he could be a Godfather?
@Mograppler: Can you share the love, or are you just buddying up to certain people?
Why the **** are people posting full reads list on day 1? Stop. All of you. Now.
Jesus christ.
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EL still way scum. Folza scummy for starting the really awful reads list train
Bloodmoon, what did I overlook from you?
Also I know someone asked me If I was reading the thread. I'm not. I'm lightly skimming cause I already caught a scum, so like...get bent person asking me if I read.
This is the post that I meant to quote on the first one. 357
@Mog: What are you talking about with Catch-22? Also, where are the snows of yesteryear?
Post 44 - RVS, Joke.
Post 65 - Backing down with no real opinion on Sunray, everyone is scummy or nothing.
Post 79 - Defending his vote with little substance.
Post 80 - Taking credit for EL's push on Sunray.
Post 91 - Just complaining about lurking, with strange comment about randomly accusing people.
Post 94 - Randomly accuses Mog with an explicit lack of explanation, seemingly OMGUS and/or joke.
Post 145 - Still going hard after Golli. Flips on Sunray for no reason.
Post 176 - Votes for the popular wagon with an argument based on one post.
Post 179 - At worst, OMGUS, at best, fearmongery uselessness.
Post 264 - Been busy, defends self, maintains Golli argument.
Post 265 - Clearly hasn't paid much attention to the arguments on him.
Post 271 - Still just defending himself…
Post 344 - Oh hey, it's a readlist. Mostly seems to just be trying to be inoffensive.
Post 352 - Responds a little to questions, maintains hypocritical Golli argument, flips on Mog for no reason.
Post 398 - Guys, lynch Golli! Also, maybe I should actually start pretending to be town by asking a question.
Post 414 - Following public opinion with a bad argument against D_V.
Post 440 - Voted D_V for no reason, no regrets.
Post 452 - "I'm not defending myself." Back on Vaimes (Golli)
Post 472 - ELph is town because he tunneled D_V.
Post 476 - Defending self willy-nilly.
Post 547 - Inoffensive, but contentless minus asking the same question that I just asked.
Unvote
Meg, if you're town, this is pretty dumb on your part. If you're scum, congrats.
The catch 22 is that according to his theory, would be a lose lose for me. if I voted for you and you weren't scum, it would obviously be bad, but if I voted for you and you were, he would want me lynched next. So even if you weren't my #1 read I wouldn't be able to vote for you.
And what did you mean by share the love? Can people say who they subbed in for again? I have a hard time keeping track.
Also, why is Osie ignoring you a scum tell? I ignore attackers all the time as either alignment.
dank tone reads.
vote him; i'm humoring you so far so you can nice and repay the favor
This is a really blatant attempt to pocket.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm not voting you because of Megs, I'm voting you because of your slot and your reaction to him. Can you talk to me about your feelings on Megs? Think he's scum or town and why?
what's with the vaimes vote/unvote? where's your king torg vote? what does "pocketing" mean and how am i doing it (and why?)? do you actually think in town? or am i scum? which and why? why did you directly repeat the question i asked mograppler? why are you fearmongering?
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Also, why is Osie ignoring you a scum tell? I ignore attackers all the time as either alignment.
dank tone reads.
vote him; i'm humoring you so far so you can nice and repay the favor
This is a really blatant attempt to pocket.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm not voting you because of Megs, I'm voting you because of your slot and your reaction to him. Can you talk to me about your feelings on Megs? Think he's scum or town and why?
wtf you should totally be voting because of me
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@Mog: What are you talking about with Catch-22? Also, where are the snows of yesteryear?
Post 44 - RVS, Joke.
Post 65 - Backing down with no real opinion on Sunray, everyone is scummy or nothing.
Post 79 - Defending his vote with little substance.
Post 80 - Taking credit for EL's push on Sunray.
Post 91 - Just complaining about lurking, with strange comment about randomly accusing people.
Post 94 - Randomly accuses Mog with an explicit lack of explanation, seemingly OMGUS and/or joke.
Post 145 - Still going hard after Golli. Flips on Sunray for no reason.
Post 176 - Votes for the popular wagon with an argument based on one post.
Post 179 - At worst, OMGUS, at best, fearmongery uselessness.
Post 264 - Been busy, defends self, maintains Golli argument.
Post 265 - Clearly hasn't paid much attention to the arguments on him.
Post 271 - Still just defending himself…
Post 344 - Oh hey, it's a readlist. Mostly seems to just be trying to be inoffensive.
Post 352 - Responds a little to questions, maintains hypocritical Golli argument, flips on Mog for no reason.
Post 398 - Guys, lynch Golli! Also, maybe I should actually start pretending to be town by asking a question.
Post 414 - Following public opinion with a bad argument against D_V.
Post 440 - Voted D_V for no reason, no regrets.
Post 452 - "I'm not defending myself." Back on Vaimes (Golli)
Post 472 - ELph is town because he tunneled D_V.
Post 476 - Defending self willy-nilly.
Post 547 - Inoffensive, but contentless minus asking the same question that I just asked.
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Meg, if you're town, this is pretty dumb on your part. If you're scum, congrats.
The catch 22 is that according to his theory, would be a lose lose for me. if I voted for you and you weren't scum, it would obviously be bad, but if I voted for you and you were, he would want me lynched next. So even if you weren't my #1 read I wouldn't be able to vote for you.
And what did you mean by share the love? Can people say who they subbed in for again? I have a hard time keeping track.
why did you answer osiorb and not me directly?
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Also, why is Osie ignoring you a scum tell? I ignore attackers all the time as either alignment.
dank tone reads.
vote him; i'm humoring you so far so you can nice and repay the favor
This is a really blatant attempt to pocket.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm not voting you because of Megs, I'm voting you because of your slot and your reaction to him. Can you talk to me about your feelings on Megs? Think he's scum or town and why?
AudioTsunami was null for me. Megs is hard to read, but given his trolly attitude, he's either being *****ty town or flagrant scum. I am pretty sure Bloodmoon is town, which leaves:
Shadow (Folza)
JulsSkogs
Mograppler
Megiddo (AudioTsunami)
Vaimes (fuggingolli***)
King Torg
as the relevant part of my list. Your slot and JulsSkogs are (perhaps incorrect) townleans to me, which narrows down the list to
Mograppler
Megiddo (AudioTsunami)
Vaimes (fuggingolli***)
King Torg
Of which only one would be town, which leaves Megs as likely scum.
what's with the vaimes vote/unvote? where's your king torg vote? what does "pocketing" mean and how am i doing it (and why?)? do you actually think in town? or am i scum? which and why? why did you directly repeat the question i asked mograppler? why are you fearmongering?
I voted for Vaimes as another likely scum option.
KT is still in my scumreads, but I'm considering what the most likely team is right now and who the correct person to vote on that team would be.
Pocketing refers to when a mafia-aligned player buddies up to a town-aligned player in the hopes that this will make said player view the mafia-aligned player favorably. You're buddying up to Shadow to attempt to pull him and others to mislynch.
I think you're scum because of POE, tone, and buddying.
I was also looking for an answer to that question.
but why did you unvote without revoting? who do you want to lynch Today and why? deadline is very soon.
how am i being trolly? i feel as though i've been more forthcoming than usual this game (intentional due to the composition of the playerlist).
you were fearmongering bringing up the fact that a mislynch Today puts the game into MyLo. Note that this is a true statement; if we hit town Today we do have to lynch correctly Tomorrow. but that's true of any lynch and bringing it up as a defense serves solely to make people afraid. this is classic fearmongering.
mod: can you prod vaimes? the absence is conspicuous at this point, plus he's been active in his other games.
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@Megs: you have a point that Osie is probably scum, but King Torg is as well. What's your read on him?
sleeping now.
The fact that ELph pushed someone then Mog and Blues both jumped on that person more than once really bothered me. The coaching from BE and ELph bothered me some. Mog's attitude has felt weird throughout.
I hadn't thoroughly read Ophidia as of yet during the first post, and the thought that the game break might be NAI and I was just WIFOMing myself came to mind. Ophidia seemed like they were doing the same thing that EL was doing, of trying too hard to be the GOAT and the leader. And I at least believe that Ophidia can do better than that.
[KT, Vaimes], [Meg, Mog], [Juls, Shadow] in that order (Brackets are to denote scumlean/neutral/townlean). I was going to include you, but then I read the cop post.
Aww... I agree on KT. Why scumlean on
DiplobotMegs? Just because of AT?Town, hmm. It felt to me like he was trying too hard to lead people. Ehh. That latter bit was a joke. Don't worry, I won't try to pocket the heck out of you this game.
Welp. That changes things. Not sure how I feel about people now, then. I'mma ISO some people who I'm less certain on.
Hi Meg, how are you?
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Not OMGUSing my original light town read on AT just because of Meg, as tempting as it may be.
So with a mislynch on D_V, shot on Rhand, mislynch on me, shot on one of the confirmed town, that leaves us in MyLo. I'd not suggest it, but if that's the avenue y'all want to push...
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Unvote, Vote King Torg
for those following along, note osiorb completely ignoring me (look at the specific post he quoted for a clue) and shadowlancer backpedaling hard the moment i called him out.
It's not backpedaling when I was actually incorrect. I still think your slot is reasonably likely to be scum.
vote him; i'm humoring you so far so you can nice and repay the favor
You picked two posts by the person I replaced and declared that they were categorically scummy without explanation, and then went to my first post and voted me with only an implication that post was also scummy. That's not a case to argue against, that's you coming in and saying "You're scum because I feel like it." It doesn't warrant much more of a comment than this unless you'd like to explain why you find those three posts to be an extreme scumtell. Also, I'm here to find scum, not to waste time on this crap.
King Torg was lurking, had very few good posts when here, and argued for people based on them lurking and not providing good posts. There's little good explanation until people start to call him out, he's defensive, and his reads haven't evolved. He also flips like nobody's business and goes with the consensus.
The only things I could see were lurking and a little bit of overselling. I had a townlean, though.
here's the deal. your predecessor was scum. you, fortunately for us, replaced into his slot. unfortunately for you, that was a scum slot.
there isn't a case for you to argue against. that sucks for you, and i am sorry because it's not a great position to be in. but it doesn't invalidate the case.
if others would like me to explain more thoroughly the case on osiorb i can do this, not an issue.
i'll repay you with a fully-written case on you, as i was certainly in drive-by mode last night.
So you're just spouting off garbage for no reason is what I'm getting here. Great.
i clearly laid out what i did in that post. and you more or less pfffft'd me.
as i said, what makes it garbage? it's a real case on your predecessor. that doesn't make it garbage.
if your issue is just *presentation* of the case, i'm happy to rectify that issue.
My issue is that you don't seem to have presented a case at all. Like, what about those Nagobcnik posts makes them scummy? Why am I your top scumread?
I didn't see this earlier, but I'll get you a PBPA after work tonight.
@Vaimes Yeah, my vote on you was primarily based off of fugg's posts, so there's not much more I can do to prod at that right now. Unvote.
@Blues Is roleclaiming like that something people normally do?
I'll post more tonight, I have to drive somewhere for the next couple of hours.
-Barney Stinson
"Hodor"
-Hodor
Megs just laid out exactly where he was at and you call it garbage instead of replying in kind and talking about anything helpful.
@torg yes, I will do this tonight; just got home.
Also the wifi in China is abysmal.
First is 332. This post is one of my favorite, which is the lazy catch-up post. After some time away he is getting his head back into the game and commenting on happenings, as I did last night. The issue is that he provides mostly a summary on the game events rather than opinions on specific posts or posters.
While there are opinions here, it's more or less commentary rather than stances. And the stances that *are* taken are exclusively pointing out potential scum behavior. The reason this troubles me is that it lacks commitment but serves to cast shade on other players.
Not also the commentary on DV vs Lurker. It's very wishy-washy and ends up with a vote on EternalLurker for... some reason (315 relates to the OOG incident, and 126 to the flavor claim business). hold that thought.
Next is 354. Here we finally do get reads and such, but I saw some issues with it.
The specific part that got me to declare this post as "scum every time" is the first paragraph. When reading a big argument between two players, then natural inclination is to try and sort out the alignment of the players involved. Often the correct answer is that it's town vs town, and that's the easiest conclusion to draw when evaluating such a thing. Scum are going to take that easiest route more often than not. In this case it's funny, since nagob actually retracted a vote for one of the two players involved when calling it a TvT argument. I found this very odd. The other thing I saw here was that it was very over-explainy. When changing positions scum are more likely to provide superfluous reasons so that their decisions appear to be legitimate. That's what this looks like to me.
the vote he makes here is both 1) for the consensus "safe" candidate and 2) also over-explainy. Scum are quite reluctant to just jump onto a wagon without looking like they have a reason to be there, so we see nagob actually go through all of funingolli***'s posts before voting.
The rest of the T/S list is fairly weaksauce as well; no strong positions really.
tl;dr there, lots of unnecessary explanations for non-action. Adds up to a scummy post.
last of the three posts is 384. He ends up voting DV despite having just declared him town in (more or less) his last post. There's no progression there. He just votes for the most likely lynch candidate (DV wagon had been building by this point). So that's two in a row where he's voting the safe candidate with overexplained reasoning.
BONUS POST: 362. This is by Mograppler. I described this as a "chainsaw defense" as I saw this as Mog attacking my predecessor for attacking Nagob. On review that isn't exactly what's going on, I think...? I'm not really sure what Mog was doing here. Is mog even still in the game? Which post did you mean to quote here?
Still, Osiorb should be lynched. Mograppler is eh at this point but still in the list and worth checking out. Shadow still my #3.
Working backwards to get a votecount now...
Hmm.
Can everyone revote their current target as follows:
Vote: Wheat_Grinder
Except replace with your target of choice, and use their full name please.
King Torg - 1 (osieorb18)
Mograppler - 2 (BluesEclipse, Ophidia)
Ophidia - 1 (Vaimes)
osieorb18 - 3 (Megiddo, shadowlancerx, Bloodmoon0324)
Vaimes - 1 (JulsSkogs)
Not Voting - 2 (King Torg, Mograppler)
Deadline is about 24 hours away!
So this post puts me in a catch 22.
Wheat, since we have pick up on activity a bit, can we get an extension of like, 2-3 days?
1) when they are near being lynched and their role would prevent that from happening (i.e., they have one)
2) when claiming the role would prevent a mislynch (see: cop claim earlier) or lead to a scum lynch.
3) when needed for POE, usually later in the game.
Please be guided accordingly.
i'm not longer on the 100% lynch you plan. though please answer the question I asked you in 551. it's toward the very end.
Progenitus does not approve.
Unvote, Vote Vaimes
Post 65 - Backing down with no real opinion on Sunray, everyone is scummy or nothing.
Post 79 - Defending his vote with little substance.
Post 80 - Taking credit for EL's push on Sunray.
Post 91 - Just complaining about lurking, with strange comment about randomly accusing people.
Post 94 - Randomly accuses Mog with an explicit lack of explanation, seemingly OMGUS and/or joke.
Post 145 - Still going hard after Golli. Flips on Sunray for no reason.
Post 176 - Votes for the popular wagon with an argument based on one post.
Post 179 - At worst, OMGUS, at best, fearmongery uselessness.
Post 264 - Been busy, defends self, maintains Golli argument.
Post 265 - Clearly hasn't paid much attention to the arguments on him.
Post 271 - Still just defending himself…
Post 344 - Oh hey, it's a readlist. Mostly seems to just be trying to be inoffensive.
Post 352 - Responds a little to questions, maintains hypocritical Golli argument, flips on Mog for no reason.
Post 398 - Guys, lynch Golli! Also, maybe I should actually start pretending to be town by asking a question.
Post 414 - Following public opinion with a bad argument against D_V.
Post 440 - Voted D_V for no reason, no regrets.
Post 452 - "I'm not defending myself." Back on Vaimes (Golli)
Post 472 - ELph is town because he tunneled D_V.
Post 476 - Defending self willy-nilly.
Post 547 - Inoffensive, but contentless minus asking the same question that I just asked.
Unvote
Meg, if you're town, this is pretty dumb on your part. If you're scum, congrats.
This is a really blatant attempt to pocket.
@BluesEclipse: Given what EL specifically implied, do you think he could be a Godfather?
@Mograppler: Can you share the love, or are you just buddying up to certain people?
This is the post that I meant to quote on the first one. 357
The catch 22 is that according to his theory, would be a lose lose for me. if I voted for you and you weren't scum, it would obviously be bad, but if I voted for you and you were, he would want me lynched next. So even if you weren't my #1 read I wouldn't be able to vote for you.
And what did you mean by share the love? Can people say who they subbed in for again? I have a hard time keeping track.
It was a joke because you seemed to buddy up to BE and EL a lot early game.
what's with the vaimes vote/unvote? where's your king torg vote? what does "pocketing" mean and how am i doing it (and why?)? do you actually think in town? or am i scum? which and why? why did you directly repeat the question i asked mograppler? why are you fearmongering?
AudioTsunami was null for me. Megs is hard to read, but given his trolly attitude, he's either being *****ty town or flagrant scum. I am pretty sure Bloodmoon is town, which leaves:
Shadow (Folza)
JulsSkogs
Mograppler
Megiddo (AudioTsunami)
Vaimes (fuggingolli***)
King Torg
as the relevant part of my list. Your slot and JulsSkogs are (perhaps incorrect) townleans to me, which narrows down the list to
Mograppler
Megiddo (AudioTsunami)
Vaimes (fuggingolli***)
King Torg
Of which only one would be town, which leaves Megs as likely scum.
how am i being trolly? i feel as though i've been more forthcoming than usual this game (intentional due to the composition of the playerlist).
you were fearmongering bringing up the fact that a mislynch Today puts the game into MyLo. Note that this is a true statement; if we hit town Today we do have to lynch correctly Tomorrow. but that's true of any lynch and bringing it up as a defense serves solely to make people afraid. this is classic fearmongering.
mod: can you prod vaimes? the absence is conspicuous at this point, plus he's been active in his other games.
I'll grant a one time 48 hour deadline extension. The new deadline is 8/12 (Saturday) at 7pm cst.