By the way, I never targeted Proph with the vanilla shot, I chatted with him, but we totally targeted Vaimes a day earlier than I said, and then EL the next day.
Eh, I was coming around to voting Shadow, but RE, you just had some crazy logic to me. And at the end it felt like you were just waiting out toDay. Sorry for the fight
Proph, good job fughting against RE. You did ask a lot of the same questions I did.
I should've convinced town to lynch Shadow first dang it.
GG guys. At least I did my best, I think, to help save this slot from an autolynch.
Seriously well played though. With how the day played out, we should have killed Terry and left Grapefruit alive, but there was no reason Terry should have been killed with how he was pushing Proph yesterday.
QH was a post death mass role cop, that's how we knew GF was 1 shot. Though I was almost certain he was when he first claimed anyway, so much so that I pushed to kill him a couple days earlier.
The Vaimes kill was hilarious though, I didn't want to kill him and had played the chat to get him lynched, and got out voted, which worked out really well for me.
Eh, I was coming around to voting Shadow, but RE, you just had some crazy logic to me. And at the end it felt like you were just waiting out toDay. Sorry for the fight
Proph, good job fughting against RE. You did ask a lot of the same questions I did.
I should've convinced town to lynch Shadow first dang it.
GG guys. At least I did my best, I think, to help save this slot from an autolynch.
Yeah, you did an excellent job saving this slot from a mislynch! I thought AG would be crazily easy pushable because he had so many bad interactions with flipped townies, but you replaced in and basically saved your slot. You did a very good job!
By the way, I never targeted Proph with the vanilla shot, I chatted with him, but we totally targeted Vaimes a day earlier than I said, and then EL the next day.
I'm curious, how did you figure out Grape was 1 shot BP?
Private Mod Note
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Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
When the point of no return appears, it is already behind you.
Right?!? I was banking on the serious credit from his eventual flip for trying to lynch the slot, I knew there was no way the CFD would work, but him never dying ruined my plans!
Man, I feel really bad about replacing in as a scum slot there.
If I replace in as town Shinichi never gets mislynched there and I just destroy QH/kpaca's slot. I'll explain more about my play once Cantrip posts but whew. I'm very happy to be wrapping up this game. Playing scum sucks
Eh, I was coming around to voting Shadow, but RE, you just had some crazy logic to me. And at the end it felt like you were just waiting out toDay. Sorry for the fight
Proph, good job fughting against RE. You did ask a lot of the same questions I did.
I should've convinced town to lynch Shadow first dang it.
GG guys. At least I did my best, I think, to help save this slot from an autolynch.
Yeah, you did an excellent job saving this slot from a mislynch! I thought AG would be crazily easy pushable because he had so many bad interactions with flipped townies, but you replaced in and basically saved your slot. You did a very good job!
Right?!? I was banking on the serious credit from his eventual flip for trying to lynch the slot, I knew there was no way the CFD would work, but him never dying ruined my plans!
I had a feeling you bussing - getting rid of the weakest in the pack first. Psh. But whatever. Neighborizer is forever a scummy role in my heart (and gladiator, but that's less relevant...).
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When the point of no return appears, it is already behind you.
By the way, I never targeted Proph with the vanilla shot, I chatted with him, but we totally targeted Vaimes a day earlier than I said, and then EL the next day.
I'm curious, how did you figure out Grape was 1 shot BP?
said it above, but I was almost certain that a full BP wouldn't exisit in a setup this small, especially with how weak our roles were. Like, QH was only post his death, and my role is entirely dependant on my play.
Man, I feel really bad about replacing in as a scum slot there.
If I replace in as town Shinichi never gets mislynched there and I just destroy QH/kpaca's slot. I'll explain more about my play once Cantrip posts but whew. I'm very happy to be wrapping up this game. Playing scum sucks
And yeah, LnG - if you read my posts in lylo then I should have been setting myself up to lynch shadow because he was the 100% guaranteed lock due to behavior and interactions, while you and RE were more of a toss-up. But I just kept stalling and avoiding to reach a conclusion because I didn't want momentum to switch towards my scumbuddy, because it's easier to win a f5 than to win a f3.
So I am guessing Rhand prevented the mass role cop while still alive. This is why I was trying to get people to look at how I used my ability instead of just saying it was scummy lol.
Thanks for the kind words Proph and Shadow. I think if we had lynched Shadow first, Terry would have been killed and I would've sided with you against RE and lost anyways.
And yeah, LnG - if you read my posts in lylo then I should have been setting myself up to lynch shadow because he was the 100% guaranteed lock due to behavior and interactions, while you and RE were more of a toss-up. But I just kept stalling and avoiding to reach a conclusion because I didn't want momentum to switch towards my scumbuddy, because it's easier to win a f5 than to win a f3.
I think you almost went a little too hard at me today, like, some of the stuff you analyzed would have gone entirely unnoticed if you hadn't brought it up
Yeah, I was really surprised that the final Day went so smoothly. I was seriously afraid of being lynched Yesterday since GF/Terry were suspecting me hardcore and this Day was like "um, everyone is townreading me I guess?"
@Proph, that's what had me so weirded out about RE, her tying Terry and you tigether felt so... made up lol. Also, note to self: Prophscum asks a lot of questions. That's what I scum read you for when I first came in the game, should've stuck to it.
So I am guessing Rhand prevented the mass role cop while still alive. This is why I was trying to get people to look at how I used my ability instead of just saying it was scummy lol.
Thanks for the kind words Proph and Shadow. I think if we had lynched Shadow first, Terry would have been killed and I would've sided with you against RE and lost anyways.
Good job guys
It was hard trying to pick between you guys because both of you were so darn townie; that's why I vacillated up until the end. Also people can really re-evaluate in f3 and I did not want that
@Proph, that's what had me so weirded out about RE, her tying Terry and you tigether felt so... made up lol. Also, note to self: Prophscum asks a lot of questions. That's what I scum read you for when I first came in the game, should've stuck to it.
I mean, I ask a lot of questions as town too. As town I care more about the game, though.
I dropped a pretty big hint when I linked my Champs wild card game in the thread. If people actually cross-checked my play over there compared to here I poured SO MUCH MORE into that game as opposed to this one.
Terry, while I appreciate your effort here immensely, and am feeling really a lot better about you overall from where I was at the start of our chat, your willingness to clear teams based on what you think I absolutely wouldn't do kind of makes me worry that you might be doing the same with other people. I said this earlier this game, but it bears repeating because it is most likely true for any good scum player, and that is I will do literally anything as scum that isn't against the spirit of the game. I could totally see myself drawing scum neighborizor and targeting a buddy for the exact reason you're clearing teams for. Again, it doesn't actually matter here, but I do think you would benefit from making sure you're not doing the same sort of clear for someone else in later days.
I think this is what I was referring to when I said you told me.
So neither Vaimes or AG were scum in the end, which kind of defuses my being pissed about my trap. I need to hear what happened with the Order of Operation from Cantrip.
Terry, while I appreciate your effort here immensely, and am feeling really a lot better about you overall from where I was at the start of our chat, your willingness to clear teams based on what you think I absolutely wouldn't do kind of makes me worry that you might be doing the same with other people. I said this earlier this game, but it bears repeating because it is most likely true for any good scum player, and that is I will do literally anything as scum that isn't against the spirit of the game. I could totally see myself drawing scum neighborizor and targeting a buddy for the exact reason you're clearing teams for. Again, it doesn't actually matter here, but I do think you would benefit from making sure you're not doing the same sort of clear for someone else in later days.
I think this is what I was referring to when I said you told me.
Hahahaha oh yes, I loved making this post. AG actually said the same thing much earlier in the game and I answered in much the same way.
So neither Vaimes or AG were scum in the end, which kind of defuses my being pissed about my trap. I need to hear what happened with the Order of Operation from Cantrip.
Yes, I will give you this conversation, although it may not be today. Possibly tomorrow.
I'm kinda disappointed no one besides grape read Overwatch, I specifically modeled this game to be super different than that one. It's why I multi targeted grape, because it made sense for me as town to do; it's why I targeted a buddy; and it's why I went super hard into the mechanical dichotomies, as I was super soft on them in that game.
Proph, good job building on my posts after my death! You definitely knew how to pair me with others as a scumteam. This was my first time getting lynched as mafia, and I sort of saw it coming once Proph replaced in, haha.
Shadow, that was some great usage of your ability/the cop shots, and really good distancing. I had no idea who you were but with only a few posts in from you I could tell the scumteam was in good hands.
Shadow, that was some great usage of your ability/the cop shots, and really good distancing. I had no idea who you were but with only a few posts in from you I could tell the scumteam was in good hands.
Thank you. Sorry we ended up lynching you, I was so hoping for that perfect win.
Your wall posts were awesome by the way, it was really fun being scum with you. Would scum with again!
I thought about claiming to Grapefruit in that last chat for fun, but the chance of Rhand actually being a post death Doctor and GF still being BP made me paranoid.
I'll offer my thoughts on this game sometime today or tomorrow.
Spec chat was on Discord but it was mostly me talking to myself with Rhand interjecting occasionally until QuickHoodies died. I wasn't paying particular attention to the game, either, so I dunno how useful it is.
I'll offer my thoughts on this game sometime today or tomorrow.
Spec chat was on Discord but it was mostly me talking to myself with Rhand interjecting occasionally until QuickHoodies died. I wasn't paying particular attention to the game, either, so I dunno how useful it is.
Mafia
Quickhoodies - Jack Crawford, Death Singer
Shadow - Dr. Frederick Chilton, Shrink
kpaca - Senator Ruth Martin, Vanilla
Notes:
• I created the list of characters (without roles), then randomized them to see who was town and who was mafia, then assigned roles to each team. This will be made clear to players during signup/game intro.
• Mafia have pre-game chat.
Town:
Clarice Starling (Grapefruit)
Town 1-Time Bulletproof Plot Armor (Passive, Night): The first time you would be killed during a Night, you will not be killed instead. You will be informed when you lose your bulletproof status. Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Hannibal Lecter (AtheistGod/LnGrrrR)
Town Psycho-Consultant Question the Questioner (Targeted, Day): Each Day, you may target another player by sending a PM to the mod. You may change this designation at any time during the Day prior to the post that casts the lynching vote. When the Day ends, the targeted player will receive the following 1-shot ability: "Psychological Scrutiny (Targeted, Night): This Night, you may target another player; you will be told whether that player is vanilla or non-vanilla." Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Death's Head Moth (RogerSherman/Rhand)
Town Deathguard Pre-Post Mortem (Targeted, Night): Each Night, you may target a player other than yourself. If that player would be killed that Night, you will die instead, and that player's alignment will be posted as mod-confirmed info in the next Day's opening post. Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Precious the Poodle (Shinichi)
Town Yapper Bark Your Head Off (Activated, Day): Each Day, before you have made your fifth post of the Day, you may send a message of no more than 50 characters to the mod via PM. The mod will post that message anonymously in the thread. Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Barney Matthews, Head Orderly (Vaimes)
Town Vanilla Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Buffalo Bill (Mindreaver/EternalLurker)
Town Vanilla Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Miggs, Psychopath (TheRealStinkyJoeTerry)
Town Vanilla Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Ardelia Mapp, FBI Agent (Wheat_Grinder)
Town Vanilla Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Catherine Martin (RE1031)
Town Vanilla Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Mafia:
All members of the mafia have the following shared abilities: Mafia Kill (Targeted, Night): Each Night, by consensus, you may designate one member of the mafia who will perform the nightkill by sending a PM to the mod designating which player you wish to kill. This designation may also be made via indication in the Mafia Chat. Win Condition: You win when the number of mafia are greater than or equal to the number of other players in the game.
Jack Crawford, FBI Director (Quickhoodies)
Mafia Death Singer Secrets Revealed (Targeted, Day): Each Day, you may target a player by sending a PM to the mod. When you leave the game (by lynch or otherwise), the role of each player designated this way will be revealed to all mafia players. You may change this designation by sending a PM to the mod at any time prior to the post that casts the lynching vote.
Dr. Frederick Chilton (Shadowlancer)
Mafia Shrink Mind Games (Targeted, Day): Each Day, you may target another player by sending a PM to the mod. When the Day ends, the mod will create a private QuickTopic that only you and that player may post in, and only during that Night. You may change this designation at any time during the Day prior to the post that casts the lynching vote.
So regarding the game break with Grapefruit, I tried to handle it in a professional but also townie way. If I had just idled by and let grapefruit take heat when I would have known him to be town, it would have looked really bad for me. I hope no one thinks I tried to abuse the situation, and I truly apologize if you feel I did. I didn't share my info with my scum buddies.
Proph, I was worried there, you were almost doing too well at pushing me.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Proph, good job fughting against RE. You did ask a lot of the same questions I did.
I should've convinced town to lynch Shadow first dang it.
GG guys. At least I did my best, I think, to help save this slot from an autolynch.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
QH was a post death mass role cop, that's how we knew GF was 1 shot. Though I was almost certain he was when he first claimed anyway, so much so that I pushed to kill him a couple days earlier.
The Vaimes kill was hilarious though, I didn't want to kill him and had played the chat to get him lynched, and got out voted, which worked out really well for me.
Yeah, you did an excellent job saving this slot from a mislynch! I thought AG would be crazily easy pushable because he had so many bad interactions with flipped townies, but you replaced in and basically saved your slot. You did a very good job!
If I replace in as town Shinichi never gets mislynched there and I just destroy QH/kpaca's slot. I'll explain more about my play once Cantrip posts but whew. I'm very happy to be wrapping up this game. Playing scum sucks
Thanks for the kind words Proph and Shadow. I think if we had lynched Shadow first, Terry would have been killed and I would've sided with you against RE and lost anyways.
Good job guys
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
And can you blame me for being slightly arrogant as scum
I'm 5/6 as scum and in all 5 wins I've endgamed.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Can I post now?
I dropped a pretty big hint when I linked my Champs wild card game in the thread. If people actually cross-checked my play over there compared to here I poured SO MUCH MORE into that game as opposed to this one.
Shadowlancer and Proph quickly make short work of Terry and LnGrrrR, ending the game in a scum win!
I'll post setup in a little while and then some mod thoughts. Carry on.
Shadow, that was some great usage of your ability/the cop shots, and really good distancing. I had no idea who you were but with only a few posts in from you I could tell the scumteam was in good hands.
I hard-defended my buddy like crazy and thought I could lose the game because of this, but he got replaced and the slot received some slack. Hurray!
A pleasure playing with you all, sorry to the host about all these replacements and my low activity, but it was a good ride nonetheless.
Thank you. Sorry we ended up lynching you, I was so hoping for that perfect win.
Your wall posts were awesome by the way, it was really fun being scum with you. Would scum with again!
Night 1 (Grapefruit)
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/U6C5f3ptgrE
Night 2 (Proph, we faked this in scum chat night 3)
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/rATiLaAL7j4re
Night 3 (Grapefruit again)
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/6gtSwSvVT4c
Night 4 (Terry)
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/c9Ksts4LK6Qe
Night 5 (Grapefruit, for the last time)
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/2H4yUXAD6iYsc
I thought about claiming to Grapefruit in that last chat for fun, but the chance of Rhand actually being a post death Doctor and GF still being BP made me paranoid.
I'll offer my thoughts on this game sometime today or tomorrow.
Scum Discord: https://discord.gg/RQ6zuHY
There was also some early game scumtalk in this QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/H2eGrMuxnpexz
Random.org gives us this slate of role assignments:
Town
Grapefruit21 - Clarice Starling, 1-shot Bulletproof
AtheistGod - Hannibal Lecter, Psycho-Consultant
Roger Sherman - Death's Head Moth, Deathguard
Shinichi - Precious the Poodle, Yapper
Vaimes - Barney Matthews, Vanilla
Mindreaver - Buffalo Bill, Vanilla
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - Miggs, Psychopath, Vanilla
Wheat_Grinder - Ardelia Mapp, Vanilla
RE1031 - Catherine Martin, Vanilla
Mafia
Quickhoodies - Jack Crawford, Death Singer
Shadow - Dr. Frederick Chilton, Shrink
kpaca - Senator Ruth Martin, Vanilla
Notes:
• I created the list of characters (without roles), then randomized them to see who was town and who was mafia, then assigned roles to each team. This will be made clear to players during signup/game intro.
• Mafia have pre-game chat.
Town:
Clarice Starling (Grapefruit)
Town 1-Time Bulletproof
Plot Armor (Passive, Night): The first time you would be killed during a Night, you will not be killed instead. You will be informed when you lose your bulletproof status.
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Hannibal Lecter (AtheistGod/LnGrrrR)
Town Psycho-Consultant
Question the Questioner (Targeted, Day): Each Day, you may target another player by sending a PM to the mod. You may change this designation at any time during the Day prior to the post that casts the lynching vote. When the Day ends, the targeted player will receive the following 1-shot ability: "Psychological Scrutiny (Targeted, Night): This Night, you may target another player; you will be told whether that player is vanilla or non-vanilla."
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Death's Head Moth (RogerSherman/Rhand)
Town Deathguard
Pre-Post Mortem (Targeted, Night): Each Night, you may target a player other than yourself. If that player would be killed that Night, you will die instead, and that player's alignment will be posted as mod-confirmed info in the next Day's opening post.
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Precious the Poodle (Shinichi)
Town Yapper
Bark Your Head Off (Activated, Day): Each Day, before you have made your fifth post of the Day, you may send a message of no more than 50 characters to the mod via PM. The mod will post that message anonymously in the thread.
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Barney Matthews, Head Orderly (Vaimes)
Town Vanilla
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Buffalo Bill (Mindreaver/EternalLurker)
Town Vanilla
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Miggs, Psychopath (TheRealStinkyJoeTerry)
Town Vanilla
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Ardelia Mapp, FBI Agent (Wheat_Grinder)
Town Vanilla
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Catherine Martin (RE1031)
Town Vanilla
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have left the game.
Mafia:
All members of the mafia have the following shared abilities:
Mafia Kill (Targeted, Night): Each Night, by consensus, you may designate one member of the mafia who will perform the nightkill by sending a PM to the mod designating which player you wish to kill. This designation may also be made via indication in the Mafia Chat.
Win Condition: You win when the number of mafia are greater than or equal to the number of other players in the game.
Jack Crawford, FBI Director (Quickhoodies)
Mafia Death Singer
Secrets Revealed (Targeted, Day): Each Day, you may target a player by sending a PM to the mod. When you leave the game (by lynch or otherwise), the role of each player designated this way will be revealed to all mafia players. You may change this designation by sending a PM to the mod at any time prior to the post that casts the lynching vote.
Dr. Frederick Chilton (Shadowlancer)
Mafia Shrink
Mind Games (Targeted, Day): Each Day, you may target another player by sending a PM to the mod. When the Day ends, the mod will create a private QuickTopic that only you and that player may post in, and only during that Night. You may change this designation at any time during the Day prior to the post that casts the lynching vote.
Senator Ruth Martin (Kpaca/Proph)
Mafia Vanilla