I was pretty salty with being killed for targeting the CORRECT player. Feels bad man. I spent the whole game riding the line between lynchable and unlynchable only to be killed by a PGO. Didn't reward good play.
The only one to figure out my breadcrumbs was D_V. Luckily this led to nacho being lynched, but apparently that wasn't enough.
@Iso: How long did it take you to work through a role-madness game this large??? The setup was very fun, even if it felt a little scum-sided at times. Knowing that the town had a genie on their team helps that, though.
According to the review QuickTopic, it took approximately 3 weeks from me posting my setup rough draft to completion of review. It probably took me a night or two of working on roles at the job I had at the time to come up with the rough draft. So I guess about a month altogether?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
"Guys. GUYS! I saw him do it! He tried to kill me! It's gotta be him!" screamed D_V, pointing at Huntzilla.
"Well, good enough for me."
"Yeah, that's gotta be it."
"But guys, I-"
The three remaining non-Huntzilla participants wasted no time in dismembering Huntzilla. But no horseman specter flew from his body.
"I uh, may not have seen anything after all."
"What?!? You!-"
"Actually, no. Me."
shadowlancerx stepped forward, suddenly surrounded by a strange, red aura.
"The kid?"
"Are you ******* serious? Get him!" D_V charged at shadow, but was batted away by the fearsome aura of power emanating from shadow. Though he was but a small boy, he stood with the stature of a viking and the ferocity of a dragon, ancient samurai armor superimposed over his figure, which was now riding a red horse.
"I thank you for your assistance. However, you are no longer of use to me," shadow stated to tomsloger. He raised a katana and charged at him on his horse, slicing tom in half.
"And you...thank you for quite literally handing me this victory." shadow leapt off of his horse and beat D_V to death with one of Huntzilla's dismembered legs.
Apocalypse applauded. "Well done, boy! You've done me proud. As for your brethren..." Apocalypse snapped a finger, and three horseman specters stepped out of the abyss that had suddenly been conjured behind him. "...they'll be with us shortly."
shadowlancerx smiled for the first time in years. He had finally found acceptance; a place he belonged. He was the herald of the endtimes, the harbinger of Apocalypse, the horseman War.
The end of days had come. The sun would be blotted out with a moon stained with the blood of his foes. This was Armageddon. This was...Apocalypse.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Code Name: The Don
Real Name: Harry DiRocetta
Age: 48
Height: 5'9"
Country of Origin: Italy
Background: Subject is deeply involved in local crime, having established himself as head of the DiRocetta Syndicate decades back. Subject has a harsh background of extortion, murder, and tax evasion, having performed his first murder for the Syndicate when he was but 14 years old. Subject is looking to pass the helm of the Syndicate to one of his progenies, but has not yet decided which has earned the mantle. Subject should be regarded with extreme caution, for his anger is easily wrought and his resources are many.
Threat level: High
Abilities:
You have the following passive ability:
* Influence: You have two votes.
D_V, you are:
Code Name: The Spy
Real Name: Tobias Jultae
Age: 31
Height: 6'2"
Country of Origin: Austria
Background: Subject is our own personal operative committed to the mission of capturing and detaining the individual referring to himself as "Apocalypse". Given the nature of Apocalypse's appearances, it is uncertain as to whether or not subject will be able to replace the originally intended recipient of Apocalypse's invitation without notice, but this is our greatest chance at bringing him down once and for all. Best of luck, Agent Jultae.
Threat level: Maximum
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Secret Agent Man: You learn all players target player targets on the Night that you target them. You learn all players that target target player on the Night that you target them.
tomsloger, you are:
Code Name: The Provider
Real Name: David Jackson
Age: 52
Height: 5'1"
Country of Origin: United States of America
Background: Subject is a disgruntled father of 2 and a divorcee. Subject's former spouse regularly manipulates subject into excess child support payments through means of gaslighting and guilting. Subject has exhibited extreme suicidal tendencies, though cites his children as the sole reason for why he has not acted on this.
Threat level: Low
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* The Giver: Create an ability. Target player receives a 1-shot use of it. This can not include killing abilities, information abilities, abilities that target more than one player, abilities that force the mod to do anything (including lie and participation in the game), or anything that I determine may be able to break the game or feel is otherwise completely asinine. (Feel free to run possibilities by me, and I will respond with a simple "yes" or "no" as to whether or not I will allow the ability.)
Huntzilla, you are:
Code Name: The Con Artist
Real Name: Norman Barineau
Age: 25
Height: 5'8"
Country of Origin: France
Background: Subject is a master thief and chameleon, having obtained an extremely valuable painting through questionable means. Our agency, through masterful manipulation of events, managed to replace this painting in subject's briefcase with a high-powered explosive device, which may act as insurance should our primary objective fail.
Threat level: Moderate
Once during the game at Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* What're ya buyin'?: Target player will be given the choice to either become a Bomb (when that player is killed by an ability, including the mafia's Nightkill, the person who killed that player will also die) and give their role to you (though they will not know who you are) or decline the trade. If they decline the trade, you will become a Bomb for the rest of the game.
Rodemy, you are:
Code Name: The Drunk
Real Name: Devin O'Malley
Age: 32
Height: 5'8"
Country of Origin: Ireland
Background: Subject meets all Irish stereotypes: Red hair, pale complexion, freckles, and drunken tendencies. Subject appears to be homeless, penniless, and without family as a result of a series of freak accidents. How subject came to be in Paris is unknown, nor is it known what value Apocalypse sees in this individual.
Threat level: Low
Abilities:
Once per game during the Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Whiskey: Target player becomes Neighbors and Lovers with you. I will open a Quicktopic between you and that player that you may post in at any time during Day or Night. Additionally, if either you or that player dies, so will the other.
Silvercrys3467, you are:
Code Name: The Time Traveler
Real Name: ???
Age: ???
Height: 4'11"
Country of Origin: ???
Background: Very little is known about subject, other than that they appear to possess a quantum displacement device that allows for jumping between different moments in time. More research is required for a full assessment on subject, and retrieving the subject's quantum displacement device would be of massive benefit to our agency.
Threat level: Very high
Abilities:
You have the following passive ability:
* Foresight: You will learn what alignment a lynched player will flip 24 hours before their role is revealed to the rest of the thread.
Zionite, you are:
Code Name: The Politician
Real Name: Lachlan Ackermann
Age: 47
Height: 5'4"
Country of Origin: Israel
Background: Subject is a politician of Israel that performs cutthroat negotations and has a propensity for blackmail, extortion, and threats. Subject carries a lot of influence in regular Israeli matters, and regularly utilizes both position and wealth to attain what he wants. Subject should be regarded as untrustworthy and be approached with caution.
Threat level: Very high
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Blackmail: You will learn if target player has a killing ability or not. This includes passive abilities (like the Mafia Nightkill) and Horseman abilities.
Ophidia, you are:
Code Name: The Hunter
Real Name: Herman Underhill
Age: 72
Height: 5'4"
Country of Origin: England
Background: Subject is a poacher of ivory from endangered species, partaking in many black market trades. Subject is extremely wealthy and retired, though how he obtained his vast fortune prior to poaching is uncertain. Subject may have learned some cutthroat methods during his black market trades, though it is unknown how much of that behavior he has retained into his old age.
Threat level: Moderate
Abilities:
Once per game during the Day, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Elephant Gun: Target player will die.
Tammy, you are:
Code Name: The Cabbie
Real Name: Isidor Makar
Age: 46
Height: 5'5"
Country of Origin: Russia
Background: Subject is an ordinary cab driver from Moscow who appears to have no special talents other than a knack for overhearing the latest underworld gossip from the backseat of his cab. Subject appears to live vicariously through the lives of the people that he taxis to their destinations.
Threat level: Very low
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may activate the following 2-Shot ability:
* My Cab is my Home: All abilities that target you on a Night you use this ability will instead fail.
AtheistGod, you are:
Code Name: The Combat Medic
Real Name: Jill Ivanstead
Age: 29
Height: 5'6"
Country of Origin: United States of America
Background: Subject is on leave from military duties, having received a purple heart in the line of duty. Subject's leg was amputated as a result of said injury, and since then, subject has displayed borderline and dissociative tendencies. Subject occasionally lapses into bouts of sadistic bloodlust, but is generally able to keep people from witnessing this state of being by feigning illness.
Threat level: Moderate
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* I Learned This in Med School: Killing abilities that affect target player on the Night that you target them will instead fail.
Once per game during the Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* I Swear I Didn't Fail Med School: Target player will be killed.
kpaca, you are:
Code Name: The Artist
Real Name: Caden Shepherd
Age: 66
Height: 5'6"
Country of Origin: Canada
Background: Subject appears to have extreme psychopathic and narcisstic tendencies, flying into a blind rage whenever his artwork is criticized. Subject utilizes the blood of his victims as the primary ingredient for the paint that he utilizes for his artwork, and appears to regularly smear this paint on the wall in his studio apartment for unknown reasons. Approach with caution.
Threat level: High
Abilities:
Once per game during the Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Blood for the Blood God: Target player loses all abilities aside from their vote for the rest of the game.
Code Name: The Mystic
Real Name: Sheng
Age: ???
Height: 5'7"
Country of Origin: Uncertain; suspected Indonesia
Background: Subject is a master of mystic and martial arts, having honed her body and spirit in the mountains of Eastern Asia for decades before joining the general populace. The full extent of subject's abilities are unknown, though rumors originating in her town would indicate that subject can perform deeds that can only be classified as "miracles". Subject can likely be coerced into cooperation if Apocalypse's influence has not reached her, first.
Threat level: High
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with one of the following abilities:
* Enhance chi: Any abilities that player uses on that Night will succeed regardless of any ability that may interfere with such.
* Disrupt chi: Any abilities that player uses on that Night will result in that player being unable to take a Night action the following Night.
Code Name: The Rebel
Real name: Jakob Ytfelin
Age: 19
Height: 5'7"
Country of Origin: Finland
Background: Subject was raised in an abusive home, finding early solace in illicit substances and general social misconduct. Subject is a notorious graffiti artist and vandal in his hometown, with an extensive criminal record consisting mostly of minor offenses.
Threat level: Low
-
Abilities:
Once per game during the Day, you may activate the following ability:
* Hate: All votes for target player and you count as 1.5 votes. Only you and target player can be lynched on the Day that you activate this.
Additionally, you are Death.
You have the following passive ability:
* Deathtouch: A player that targets you will die upon resolution of their ability. If multiple players target you in a single Night, Deathtouch has no effect.
shadowlancerx, you are:
Code Name: The Gamer
Real Name: Shimasen Hanashimasu
Age: 9
Height: 4'3"
Country of Origin: Japan
Background: Subject is a student of grade school age that appears to excel at most educational curriculum, but prefers the company of video games to that of his peers. Subject displays extreme anxiety in situations where he realizes he has lost control, but outside of that, approaches most tasks in a logical and practical matter. Subject should be easy to manipulate when turning to his emotions as the guiding hand for his actions.
Threat level: Minimal
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Scan: You learn any abilities target player may have. You do not learn any Horseman abilities in this way.
Additionally, you are War.
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
Combat: Choose Rock, Paper, or Scissors. Your target will also be forced to choose. If you win, that player's ability will only affect that player that Night. If you lose, that player's ability will function as it normally would. If you tie, that player's ability will fail.
Wheat_Grinder, you are:
Code Name: The Drug Lord
Real Name: Kaio Lewis
Age: 36
Height: 6'0"
Country of Origin: Jamaica
Background: Subject is the producer and distributor of many illicit substances with a distribution network that reaches global proportions. Subject formerly partook in the consumption of the substances that he distributed, but after an altercation with the former head of production and distribution in his area, subject was left for dead. Subject dedicated his life to revenge, eventually succeeding and usurping the drug empire from his now-deceased would-be assassin.
Threat level: Very high
-
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with one of the following 1-Shot abilities:
* Poison: Target player will die at the end of the next Day.
* Motivate: Target player will be able to perform 2 actions the following Night.
* Delay: Target player's Night action on this Night will not resolve until the following Night. This will not affect their ability to perform an action the following Night.
Additionally, you are Pestilence.
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Affliction: All players that have been targeted with Affliction will receive the effects of all Night actions that target every other player with Affliction.
Anaklusmos, you are:
Code Name: The Agent
Real Name: Christopher Fallon
Age: 30
Height: 6'0"
Country of Origin: United States of America
Background: Subject is an agent with the Central Intelligence Agency, a rival agency to our own. Subject appears to be investigating Apocalypse, as well, in relation to a missing persons case. Subject should be given a wide berth out of respect for members of fellow agencies.
Threat level: High
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may activate the following 2-Shot ability:
* Interrogate: All actions target player performs on the Night that you target them will fail. All other abilities that target your target on the Night that you target them will fail.
Additionally, you are Famine.
Once per Night, you may target the following player with the following ability:
* Hunger: You gain a 1-Shot use of any ability target player uses that Night.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Ok after seeing the set up I can officially say Nacho's ability was the most busted of them all.
That is an ability you give to a SK not a mafia member.
The odds of someone being targeted by any of the two abilities on the town side is so low. All it does is punish information roles, that are suspect of Nacho furthermore it also kills people that might try and night kill him unless two abilities are used on him at the same time. Furthermore it punishes information roles that might be semi curious about a player and then die for using their role correctly.
Also since some made the comments. You'd have to be high to even think Toms power level is even remotely the same. Tom can give abilities to scum and he did. Or it can go to a much lazier player and not even do that much.
As I mentioned, the setup was mostly randomized. The only role that couldn't be scum was tom's, because that would have just been really dumb and OP. Nacho rolled The Rebel, and then he rolled Death, and Cantrip originally rolled scum, too, but I decided that was too broken with Nacho's role already on the scum team - so Cantrip was placed in a town slot. I designed Wheat's role with Pestilence in mind and was overjoyed when not only did they get paired up, but Wheat randomed into the Pestilence role he had been begging me to be for 4 years, now. Also, Silver's role was interesting, as it was intended as a French Vanilla no matter what team he ended up on - but had he ended up mafia, his role would have enabled him to freely edit any of his posts without modkill. Something something scum look to the past to get dirt on townies, town look to the future when all of the scum are dead. Or something philosophical like that.
Yes, the scum team was stacked. But so was the town. In a setup where the town had two Vig shots and nearly literally anything tom could imagine, this was an uphill battle for the scum, especially when they lost two of their members on Day 1. Unfortunately for the town, tom was pocketed hard by shadow, and D_V's endgame gambit shot everyone in the foot. Also unfortunate for the town was osi's modkill, and the fact that both AG and Zionite solo targeted Nacho (who was basically the most insane Godfather role ever). There was a lot of discussion on whether or not Deathtouch was overpowered, and originally, it worked for anybody who targeted him, but my reviewers and I agreed that that could literally end the game on Night 1 ("Hey everyone, target me because toNight if you can because great things will happen!") and should be nerfed - but being Death, his ability HAD to have some kind of killing aspect, and giving him a repeatable kill outside of the Nightkill that he could use on anyone he wanted was definitely not the way to do it. We were stumped for any sort of alternative that we could give him, so Death ended up keeping the nerfed version of Deathtouch. I thought about using a rechargeable one-shot kill, but again, giving the scum a repeatable kill seemed like a poor choice in a setup where Pestilence had Afflict, and there were two other Vig shots and a Bomb floating around.
I find it interesting that osi's modkill not happening would have likely resulted in the town having another Day, but ultimately, them's the breaks. I could have ended the Day there but I wanted to at least give the town a chance to redeem their lost number by getting another shot at lynching scum, even though osi almost certainly would have been the lynch. I also was busy at the time the modkill occurred and couldn't really abruptly end the Day, so that was admittedly also partially the reason why the Day continued afterwards.
When tom gave shadow the pardon, I strongly considered allowing it to interact with Nacho's Hated ability in a way favorable to the scum but in the interest of preventing a scum blowout due to voting shenanigans, I felt it would be unfair to the town if I permitted that interaction (even though it was a member of the town who initially enabled its existence) and thus ruled against the dumb stuff.
Initially, I also was going to allow tom the ability to grant a Revive shot but later down the line decided against it, partially because I had told Deathtouched players that they had been killed by that ability, and partially because it had the potential to stagnate the game, which was one thing I did not want tom's role to be able to do - hence why I also ruled that tom could only grant any ability only once towards the end of the game.
I probably have some other thoughts I'm forgetting, but if you guys have any questions, feel free to let me know.
Also, kpaca targeted nobody on Night 1, and I was amazed that the information that osi was Janken'd on Night 1 didn't actually get discussed in any capacity.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I think the setup was ~probably a little scum sided but not terrible? I'm pretty sure we only lost because we strung ourselves up twice three times and got unlucky with people targeting Nacho. But we also got really lucky with the D1 vig shot + lynch and tom living as long as he did and it still felt like we were behind...
A one-shot extra night kill with strongman + ninja modifiers probably isn't exactly what you were after since it isn't repeatable? or give him an extra kill that gains charges when horsemen die? Just spitballing. Maybe just give him ninja+strongman when doing the NK so only Zionite can catch him?
Tom's role probably just needs to be a regular inventor, too, in my opinion, but the inventions could be on the strong side.
Thanks for hosting! I'd probably /in for this again to be honest.
I didn't want Death's horseman ability to interfere with information or protective roles, since there was no guarantee they wouldn't all end up on one side. And then you just have a Goon, which is really dumb, because come on. It's Death.
The thing with tom's role is that whenever I see Inventors, all of their shots rarely get used and often are circumstantially obsolete. tom's role was based on Fairly Oddparents Mafia on MafiaScum (which I played in as a gimmick), and the Seppel role in Cyan's Impossible Mafia. I wanted whoever got the role to be able to think on the fly and determine what abilities would be the most beneficial to hand out at any point in time. It also tests my mettle as a reviewer, to decide whether or not an ability would fundamentally break the balance of the game.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Well there were at least 3 info roles (Zionite, D_V, and Shadow), the chances of them all being randed to scum are pretty low.
And if it does happen, well, town has no info roles then and most the extra kills ~probably~ land on town, so...
Like I said, just spitballing. I've only thought about it for, like, ten minutes and you probably spent way longer than that and had reasons for your decisions.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I mean, I totally understand balance-wise how the Death ability works and why it fits well. I'm still butt-hurt for losing/dying and finally being right, haha.
"I thank you for your assistance. However, you are no longer of use to me," shadow stated to tomsloger. He raised a katana and charged at him on his horse,
slicing tom in half.
Iso: I feel like you're going to have fun with this role. Restrictions breed creativity, as they say.
tom: Can I attach conditions?
Example:
I give osi the ability to grant a bulletproof vest that only works if the wearer abides by a posting restriction?
Mine is an evil laugh
Iso: Yes.
Someone offers you a briefcase in exchange for your own briefcase. Do you take it?
tom: **** no I don't take it.
Also can I give shadow a 1-shot governor but to use it he gains the posting restriction that every post must contain the word "kerfuffle"?
Iso: When you say Governor, do you mean the type that can overturn a lynch or the kind that can push a lynch elsewhere?
tom: Prefer the latter, but former is great
Kinda thought pushing the lynch elsewhere would vaguely count as a killing role, but if I can give that out its fantastic
ok well 1-shot governor to shadow either way
must use the word "kerfuffle"
prefer the "push lynch elsewhere" or even to the second leading vote getter
if not allowed just a pardon is fine
if none of those is allowed im giving nacho that bulletproof vest we talked requiring him to act stoned :420:
Iso: You were successful.
shadowlancerx has gained a 1-shot use of the following ability:
"Once per game during the Day, if a player would be lynched, you may prevent that player from being lynched for the rest of the Day by submitting your choice to me during Twilight. The deadline will be extended by a week, and the votecount will be reset. You may only use this ability on a Day when every post of yours contains the word 'kerfuffle'."
tom: nice
can i give manders' role from disinheritance (take away someones ability to kill anyone)?
Iso: Can you post the full role text that you want to incorporate here?
tom: (Quoting Azrael) Target player loses the ability to kill, so long as you are alive. If no mafia players are able to perform a kill, you (town) win the game.
dont really need the "win the game" part.
Iso: "Target player loses the ability to kill so long as you are alive. This does not affect factional abilities." is the only way I would allow that ability.
tom: makes sense
Can I give an extra life?
(next time you would die, you dont instead)
Iso: "The next time you would die, you will appear in the dead players list for the entirety of the next full Day/Night cycle, but without your role or alignment being revealed. You can not post in this time frame, nor can you take actions. You will be revived at the start of the following Day."
tom: final question:
can i give a day ability to take a dead players role?
either permanently/as long as you keep up a posting restriction, or for a cycle
basically i want to have silver's (claimed) role tomorrow for twilight even if silver dies, with a backup of taking mine/osi's or something if not
or maybe just a revive that only lasts for the rest of the day and a single night phase.
Iso: If you take a dead player's role in this game, you will lose your own in that timeframe.
Instead of a temp revive, what about a delayed death?
tom: i kind of like taking the dead players role and then getting yours back when you stop using the word "indubitably" in every post
can i make that ability with day activation?
Iso: You can't target members of the mafia in this way, but sure - just be aware that it will permanently be deactivated when they stop using the word.
tom: hope i dont torpedo the game by including these posting restrictions...
gonna go with day activation to take a dead towny's role as long as you keep using the word "indubitably" in every post.
targeting zionite
i think you approved every part of that but the day activation part could be super important
Iso: Sure.
tomsloger: hmmm
second guessing myself
How would a revive work?
1 Would a revived player have their role?
2 How long could they stay?
3 Can i give them (or me) a posting restriction?
Iso: 1. In what context?
2. Depends on what you want them to be able to do.
3. Them, yes. Yourself, no. You can not target yourself.
tomsloger: nah stick with the original in #28
Iso: Also, I thought about it some more, and I've decided to decline reviving roles.
tom: damn
makes sense though
Iso: Extra lives are still fine though
tom: would they apply the night i give them?
like, target shadow tonight and he gets shot. what happens?
also lover interaction.
if i give it to silver, obviously it would protect him if rodemy got shot
but if he got shot, would rodemy still die?
(purely theoretical of course, not asking for confirmation they are lovers)
Iso: * Yes
* He lives
* I will not answer a question about another player's role.
tom: fair.
can i make a suicidal role?
like, die when you activate it
Iso: To clarify: If you give a player an extra life and they are killed, they will be considered "killed" for the sake of any role interactions.
No, suicide is a killing role.
tom: gonna go with
extra life to DV
if i can make it kill only (aka doesnt stop a lynch) ill do it, but meh.
Iso: Sure, it can be a kill-only extra life. He won't flip when he dies for reasons that I hope are obvious.
Successful resolution.
I'm gonna go ahead and say that granting multiple extra lives could cause a deadlock in the gamestate, so, let's just go ahead and say you can't grant abilities you've granted before.
Whatcha got for me?
tom: hrm
can i give shadow a one shot to make his vote count for 1.5 votes?
id like him to win a final 2, but not be able to draw a final 4
that might be dumb i need some sleep.
maybe an activatable mirror that reflects any actions taken on him for a single night back on whoever performed them?
Iso: Veto on the mirror.
There can't be a final 2.
tom: give shadow a 1 shot jailkeep?
no thats bad.
if its huntz, we win.
if its shadow, he kills dv which doesnt work and dv clears huntz
if its dv...
***** i lose to dv now.
if dv kills me he wins easily.
but he might no kill and claim he used his extra life.
which means shadow JKing him would stop the kill for f3?
ill try to think of a way to beat him even without him getting fancy.
lock in the Jailkeep for now.
Iso: shadow will obtain a 1-shot use of the following ability:
"Once per Night, you may target a player. All abilities that player uses will fail on the Night that you target them. All abilities that target that player will fail on the Night that you target them."
Confirm?
tom: Just to make aure:
Would that stop a factional kill?
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And we will win after a tear-jerking story of hope and betrayal after I frivolously bus the everloving ***** out of the other two members of our scumteam despite them playing objectively better than me
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I was rooting for the scum to win, sorry town! It was exciting to see what everyone was thinking/planning and see how it panned out. MAde me want to play another mafia game, which I probably shouldn't do but YOLO
I had a lot of fun adding little apocalyptic-themed comments to vote counts, and moreso personifying the event of an apocalypse as the actual character portrayed by Iso who ran the game (you'll see capital 'A's in my flavor). The challenge was the first thing I always wanted to write was always too indicative regarding inside information about the game state, which was a shame because I thought some of them would've been really cool but my number one goal was keep the theme of the game strong while also not contributing anything substantial to it. I had to keep it simple, I wanted to do something creative but I've been having too much trouble keeping up with my existing writing projects as it was, if I started writing blocks of flavor every post count (like I did for portal 2 mafia sometimes) I probably wouldn't ended up putting myself in a bad spot where I couldn't deliver
It all worked out though, I don't think any of it really impacted the game except adding to the atmosphere~ and it was never too difficult to come up, even when I was in a bind and had to crank out a vote count quickly. It was fun, too.
I hope everyone had a good time; I certainly enjoyed following along! My only regret is not pestering Iso about a spectator chat after night 2 or something, I would've also enjoyed seeing people's thoughts about the game as it kept going and maybe a little interaction myself Oh well. Next time (or something).
There were only two names that I actively checked heritage on.
The rest I thought that while passible it would probably challenge stereotypes since even a native born can end up with a different type of name ;P and would be more fun like that.
There were only two names that I actively checked heritage on.
The rest I thought that while passible it would probably challenge stereotypes since even a native born can end up with a different type of name ;P and would be more fun like that.
I could say something about those abominations you used as a Japanese, Russian and Finnish name... >_>
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Also, Silver's role was interesting, as it was intended as a French Vanilla no matter what team he ended up on - but had he ended up mafia, his role would have enabled him to freely edit any of his posts without modkill.
I don't suppose you could post the full list of roles that would have had different/additional effects depending on what team they rolled?
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The PGO was so mean. Thought that with 2 scum dead day 1 I was safe holding my shot till N2 and then I picked the wrong person between Nacho and Tom to doc.
Dang, between you and Zionite, I really was much more lucky than I thought, GG, I'm impressed.
And we will win after a tear-jerking story of hope and betrayal after I frivolously bus the everloving ***** out of the other two members of our scumteam despite them playing objectively better than me
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StaffThe only one to figure out my breadcrumbs was D_V. Luckily this led to nacho being lynched, but apparently that wasn't enough.
GG shadow; if I hadn't died you were next.
I was told whether they had a killing ability or not. So I got a guilty basically for Nacho but couldn't tell anyone.
According to the review QuickTopic, it took approximately 3 weeks from me posting my setup rough draft to completion of review. It probably took me a night or two of working on roles at the job I had at the time to come up with the rough draft. So I guess about a month altogether?
Because you were dead!
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"Well, good enough for me."
"Yeah, that's gotta be it."
"But guys, I-"
The three remaining non-Huntzilla participants wasted no time in dismembering Huntzilla. But no horseman specter flew from his body.
"I uh, may not have seen anything after all."
"What?!? You!-"
"Actually, no. Me."
shadowlancerx stepped forward, suddenly surrounded by a strange, red aura.
"The kid?"
"Are you ******* serious? Get him!" D_V charged at shadow, but was batted away by the fearsome aura of power emanating from shadow. Though he was but a small boy, he stood with the stature of a viking and the ferocity of a dragon, ancient samurai armor superimposed over his figure, which was now riding a red horse.
"I thank you for your assistance. However, you are no longer of use to me," shadow stated to tomsloger. He raised a katana and charged at him on his horse, slicing tom in half.
"And you...thank you for quite literally handing me this victory." shadow leapt off of his horse and beat D_V to death with one of Huntzilla's dismembered legs.
Apocalypse applauded. "Well done, boy! You've done me proud. As for your brethren..." Apocalypse snapped a finger, and three horseman specters stepped out of the abyss that had suddenly been conjured behind him. "...they'll be with us shortly."
shadowlancerx smiled for the first time in years. He had finally found acceptance; a place he belonged. He was the herald of the endtimes, the harbinger of Apocalypse, the horseman War.
The end of days had come. The sun would be blotted out with a moon stained with the blood of his foes. This was Armageddon. This was...Apocalypse.
Game Over.
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Code Name: The Don
Real Name: Harry DiRocetta
Age: 48
Height: 5'9"
Country of Origin: Italy
Background: Subject is deeply involved in local crime, having established himself as head of the DiRocetta Syndicate decades back. Subject has a harsh background of extortion, murder, and tax evasion, having performed his first murder for the Syndicate when he was but 14 years old. Subject is looking to pass the helm of the Syndicate to one of his progenies, but has not yet decided which has earned the mantle. Subject should be regarded with extreme caution, for his anger is easily wrought and his resources are many.
Threat level: High
Abilities:
You have the following passive ability:
* Influence: You have two votes.
Code Name: The Spy
Real Name: Tobias Jultae
Age: 31
Height: 6'2"
Country of Origin: Austria
Background: Subject is our own personal operative committed to the mission of capturing and detaining the individual referring to himself as "Apocalypse". Given the nature of Apocalypse's appearances, it is uncertain as to whether or not subject will be able to replace the originally intended recipient of Apocalypse's invitation without notice, but this is our greatest chance at bringing him down once and for all. Best of luck, Agent Jultae.
Threat level: Maximum
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Secret Agent Man: You learn all players target player targets on the Night that you target them. You learn all players that target target player on the Night that you target them.
Code Name: The Provider
Real Name: David Jackson
Age: 52
Height: 5'1"
Country of Origin: United States of America
Background: Subject is a disgruntled father of 2 and a divorcee. Subject's former spouse regularly manipulates subject into excess child support payments through means of gaslighting and guilting. Subject has exhibited extreme suicidal tendencies, though cites his children as the sole reason for why he has not acted on this.
Threat level: Low
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* The Giver: Create an ability. Target player receives a 1-shot use of it. This can not include killing abilities, information abilities, abilities that target more than one player, abilities that force the mod to do anything (including lie and participation in the game), or anything that I determine may be able to break the game or feel is otherwise completely asinine. (Feel free to run possibilities by me, and I will respond with a simple "yes" or "no" as to whether or not I will allow the ability.)
Code Name: The Con Artist
Real Name: Norman Barineau
Age: 25
Height: 5'8"
Country of Origin: France
Background: Subject is a master thief and chameleon, having obtained an extremely valuable painting through questionable means. Our agency, through masterful manipulation of events, managed to replace this painting in subject's briefcase with a high-powered explosive device, which may act as insurance should our primary objective fail.
Threat level: Moderate
Once during the game at Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* What're ya buyin'?: Target player will be given the choice to either become a Bomb (when that player is killed by an ability, including the mafia's Nightkill, the person who killed that player will also die) and give their role to you (though they will not know who you are) or decline the trade. If they decline the trade, you will become a Bomb for the rest of the game.
Code Name: The Drunk
Real Name: Devin O'Malley
Age: 32
Height: 5'8"
Country of Origin: Ireland
Background: Subject meets all Irish stereotypes: Red hair, pale complexion, freckles, and drunken tendencies. Subject appears to be homeless, penniless, and without family as a result of a series of freak accidents. How subject came to be in Paris is unknown, nor is it known what value Apocalypse sees in this individual.
Threat level: Low
Abilities:
Once per game during the Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Whiskey: Target player becomes Neighbors and Lovers with you. I will open a Quicktopic between you and that player that you may post in at any time during Day or Night. Additionally, if either you or that player dies, so will the other.
Code Name: The Time Traveler
Real Name: ???
Age: ???
Height: 4'11"
Country of Origin: ???
Background: Very little is known about subject, other than that they appear to possess a quantum displacement device that allows for jumping between different moments in time. More research is required for a full assessment on subject, and retrieving the subject's quantum displacement device would be of massive benefit to our agency.
Threat level: Very high
Abilities:
You have the following passive ability:
* Foresight: You will learn what alignment a lynched player will flip 24 hours before their role is revealed to the rest of the thread.
Code Name: The Politician
Real Name: Lachlan Ackermann
Age: 47
Height: 5'4"
Country of Origin: Israel
Background: Subject is a politician of Israel that performs cutthroat negotations and has a propensity for blackmail, extortion, and threats. Subject carries a lot of influence in regular Israeli matters, and regularly utilizes both position and wealth to attain what he wants. Subject should be regarded as untrustworthy and be approached with caution.
Threat level: Very high
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Blackmail: You will learn if target player has a killing ability or not. This includes passive abilities (like the Mafia Nightkill) and Horseman abilities.
Code Name: The Hunter
Real Name: Herman Underhill
Age: 72
Height: 5'4"
Country of Origin: England
Background: Subject is a poacher of ivory from endangered species, partaking in many black market trades. Subject is extremely wealthy and retired, though how he obtained his vast fortune prior to poaching is uncertain. Subject may have learned some cutthroat methods during his black market trades, though it is unknown how much of that behavior he has retained into his old age.
Threat level: Moderate
Abilities:
Once per game during the Day, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Elephant Gun: Target player will die.
Code Name: The Cabbie
Real Name: Isidor Makar
Age: 46
Height: 5'5"
Country of Origin: Russia
Background: Subject is an ordinary cab driver from Moscow who appears to have no special talents other than a knack for overhearing the latest underworld gossip from the backseat of his cab. Subject appears to live vicariously through the lives of the people that he taxis to their destinations.
Threat level: Very low
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may activate the following 2-Shot ability:
* My Cab is my Home: All abilities that target you on a Night you use this ability will instead fail.
Code Name: The Combat Medic
Real Name: Jill Ivanstead
Age: 29
Height: 5'6"
Country of Origin: United States of America
Background: Subject is on leave from military duties, having received a purple heart in the line of duty. Subject's leg was amputated as a result of said injury, and since then, subject has displayed borderline and dissociative tendencies. Subject occasionally lapses into bouts of sadistic bloodlust, but is generally able to keep people from witnessing this state of being by feigning illness.
Threat level: Moderate
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* I Learned This in Med School: Killing abilities that affect target player on the Night that you target them will instead fail.
Once per game during the Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* I Swear I Didn't Fail Med School: Target player will be killed.
Code Name: The Artist
Real Name: Caden Shepherd
Age: 66
Height: 5'6"
Country of Origin: Canada
Background: Subject appears to have extreme psychopathic and narcisstic tendencies, flying into a blind rage whenever his artwork is criticized. Subject utilizes the blood of his victims as the primary ingredient for the paint that he utilizes for his artwork, and appears to regularly smear this paint on the wall in his studio apartment for unknown reasons. Approach with caution.
Threat level: High
Abilities:
Once per game during the Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Blood for the Blood God: Target player loses all abilities aside from their vote for the rest of the game.
Real Name: Sheng
Age: ???
Height: 5'7"
Country of Origin: Uncertain; suspected Indonesia
Background: Subject is a master of mystic and martial arts, having honed her body and spirit in the mountains of Eastern Asia for decades before joining the general populace. The full extent of subject's abilities are unknown, though rumors originating in her town would indicate that subject can perform deeds that can only be classified as "miracles". Subject can likely be coerced into cooperation if Apocalypse's influence has not reached her, first.
Threat level: High
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with one of the following abilities:
* Enhance chi: Any abilities that player uses on that Night will succeed regardless of any ability that may interfere with such.
* Disrupt chi: Any abilities that player uses on that Night will result in that player being unable to take a Night action the following Night.
Real name: Jakob Ytfelin
Age: 19
Height: 5'7"
Country of Origin: Finland
Background: Subject was raised in an abusive home, finding early solace in illicit substances and general social misconduct. Subject is a notorious graffiti artist and vandal in his hometown, with an extensive criminal record consisting mostly of minor offenses.
Threat level: Low
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Abilities:
Once per game during the Day, you may activate the following ability:
* Hate: All votes for target player and you count as 1.5 votes. Only you and target player can be lynched on the Day that you activate this.
Additionally, you are Death.
You have the following passive ability:
* Deathtouch: A player that targets you will die upon resolution of their ability. If multiple players target you in a single Night, Deathtouch has no effect.
Code Name: The Gamer
Real Name: Shimasen Hanashimasu
Age: 9
Height: 4'3"
Country of Origin: Japan
Background: Subject is a student of grade school age that appears to excel at most educational curriculum, but prefers the company of video games to that of his peers. Subject displays extreme anxiety in situations where he realizes he has lost control, but outside of that, approaches most tasks in a logical and practical matter. Subject should be easy to manipulate when turning to his emotions as the guiding hand for his actions.
Threat level: Minimal
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Scan: You learn any abilities target player may have. You do not learn any Horseman abilities in this way.
Additionally, you are War.
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
Combat: Choose Rock, Paper, or Scissors. Your target will also be forced to choose. If you win, that player's ability will only affect that player that Night. If you lose, that player's ability will function as it normally would. If you tie, that player's ability will fail.
Code Name: The Drug Lord
Real Name: Kaio Lewis
Age: 36
Height: 6'0"
Country of Origin: Jamaica
Background: Subject is the producer and distributor of many illicit substances with a distribution network that reaches global proportions. Subject formerly partook in the consumption of the substances that he distributed, but after an altercation with the former head of production and distribution in his area, subject was left for dead. Subject dedicated his life to revenge, eventually succeeding and usurping the drug empire from his now-deceased would-be assassin.
Threat level: Very high
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Abilities:
Once per Night, you may target a player with one of the following 1-Shot abilities:
* Poison: Target player will die at the end of the next Day.
* Motivate: Target player will be able to perform 2 actions the following Night.
* Delay: Target player's Night action on this Night will not resolve until the following Night. This will not affect their ability to perform an action the following Night.
Additionally, you are Pestilence.
Once per Night, you may target a player with the following ability:
* Affliction: All players that have been targeted with Affliction will receive the effects of all Night actions that target every other player with Affliction.
Code Name: The Agent
Real Name: Christopher Fallon
Age: 30
Height: 6'0"
Country of Origin: United States of America
Background: Subject is an agent with the Central Intelligence Agency, a rival agency to our own. Subject appears to be investigating Apocalypse, as well, in relation to a missing persons case. Subject should be given a wide berth out of respect for members of fellow agencies.
Threat level: High
Abilities:
Once per Night, you may activate the following 2-Shot ability:
* Interrogate: All actions target player performs on the Night that you target them will fail. All other abilities that target your target on the Night that you target them will fail.
Additionally, you are Famine.
Once per Night, you may target the following player with the following ability:
* Hunger: You gain a 1-Shot use of any ability target player uses that Night.
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Can't go back to the future when you're dead!
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That is an ability you give to a SK not a mafia member.
The odds of someone being targeted by any of the two abilities on the town side is so low. All it does is punish information roles, that are suspect of Nacho furthermore it also kills people that might try and night kill him unless two abilities are used on him at the same time. Furthermore it punishes information roles that might be semi curious about a player and then die for using their role correctly.
Also since some made the comments. You'd have to be high to even think Toms power level is even remotely the same. Tom can give abilities to scum and he did. Or it can go to a much lazier player and not even do that much.
As I mentioned, the setup was mostly randomized. The only role that couldn't be scum was tom's, because that would have just been really dumb and OP. Nacho rolled The Rebel, and then he rolled Death, and Cantrip originally rolled scum, too, but I decided that was too broken with Nacho's role already on the scum team - so Cantrip was placed in a town slot. I designed Wheat's role with Pestilence in mind and was overjoyed when not only did they get paired up, but Wheat randomed into the Pestilence role he had been begging me to be for 4 years, now.
Yes, the scum team was stacked. But so was the town. In a setup where the town had two Vig shots and nearly literally anything tom could imagine, this was an uphill battle for the scum, especially when they lost two of their members on Day 1. Unfortunately for the town, tom was pocketed hard by shadow, and D_V's endgame gambit shot everyone in the foot. Also unfortunate for the town was osi's modkill, and the fact that both AG and Zionite solo targeted Nacho (who was basically the most insane Godfather role ever). There was a lot of discussion on whether or not Deathtouch was overpowered, and originally, it worked for anybody who targeted him, but my reviewers and I agreed that that could literally end the game on Night 1 ("Hey everyone, target me because toNight if you can because great things will happen!") and should be nerfed - but being Death, his ability HAD to have some kind of killing aspect, and giving him a repeatable kill outside of the Nightkill that he could use on anyone he wanted was definitely not the way to do it. We were stumped for any sort of alternative that we could give him, so Death ended up keeping the nerfed version of Deathtouch. I thought about using a rechargeable one-shot kill, but again, giving the scum a repeatable kill seemed like a poor choice in a setup where Pestilence had Afflict, and there were two other Vig shots and a Bomb floating around.
I find it interesting that osi's modkill not happening would have likely resulted in the town having another Day, but ultimately, them's the breaks. I could have ended the Day there but I wanted to at least give the town a chance to redeem their lost number by getting another shot at lynching scum, even though osi almost certainly would have been the lynch. I also was busy at the time the modkill occurred and couldn't really abruptly end the Day, so that was admittedly also partially the reason why the Day continued afterwards.
When tom gave shadow the pardon, I strongly considered allowing it to interact with Nacho's Hated ability in a way favorable to the scum but in the interest of preventing a scum blowout due to voting shenanigans, I felt it would be unfair to the town if I permitted that interaction (even though it was a member of the town who initially enabled its existence) and thus ruled against the dumb stuff.
Initially, I also was going to allow tom the ability to grant a Revive shot but later down the line decided against it, partially because I had told Deathtouched players that they had been killed by that ability, and partially because it had the potential to stagnate the game, which was one thing I did not want tom's role to be able to do - hence why I also ruled that tom could only grant any ability only once towards the end of the game.
I probably have some other thoughts I'm forgetting, but if you guys have any questions, feel free to let me know.
Also, kpaca targeted nobody on Night 1, and I was amazed that the information that osi was Janken'd on Night 1 didn't actually get discussed in any capacity.
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twicethree times and got unlucky with people targeting Nacho. But we also got really lucky with the D1 vig shot + lynch and tom living as long as he did and it still felt like we were behind...A one-shot extra night kill with strongman + ninja modifiers probably isn't exactly what you were after since it isn't repeatable? or give him an extra kill that gains charges when horsemen die? Just spitballing. Maybe just give him ninja+strongman when doing the NK so only Zionite can catch him?
Tom's role probably just needs to be a regular inventor, too, in my opinion, but the inventions could be on the strong side.
Thanks for hosting! I'd probably /in for this again to be honest.
The thing with tom's role is that whenever I see Inventors, all of their shots rarely get used and often are circumstantially obsolete. tom's role was based on Fairly Oddparents Mafia on MafiaScum (which I played in as a gimmick), and the Seppel role in Cyan's Impossible Mafia. I wanted whoever got the role to be able to think on the fly and determine what abilities would be the most beneficial to hand out at any point in time. It also tests my mettle as a reviewer, to decide whether or not an ability would fundamentally break the balance of the game.
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And if it does happen, well, town has no info roles then and most the extra kills ~probably~ land on town, so...
Like I said, just spitballing. I've only thought about it for, like, ten minutes and you probably spent way longer than that and had reasons for your decisions.
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sure
Iso: I feel like you're going to have fun with this role. Restrictions breed creativity, as they say.
tom: Can I attach conditions?
Example:
I give osi the ability to grant a bulletproof vest that only works if the wearer abides by a posting restriction?
Mine is an evil laugh
Iso: Yes.
Someone offers you a briefcase in exchange for your own briefcase. Do you take it?
tom: **** no I don't take it.
Also can I give shadow a 1-shot governor but to use it he gains the posting restriction that every post must contain the word "kerfuffle"?
Iso: When you say Governor, do you mean the type that can overturn a lynch or the kind that can push a lynch elsewhere?
tom: Prefer the latter, but former is great
Kinda thought pushing the lynch elsewhere would vaguely count as a killing role, but if I can give that out its fantastic
ok well 1-shot governor to shadow either way
must use the word "kerfuffle"
prefer the "push lynch elsewhere" or even to the second leading vote getter
if not allowed just a pardon is fine
if none of those is allowed im giving nacho that bulletproof vest we talked requiring him to act stoned :420:
Iso: You were successful.
shadowlancerx has gained a 1-shot use of the following ability:
"Once per game during the Day, if a player would be lynched, you may prevent that player from being lynched for the rest of the Day by submitting your choice to me during Twilight. The deadline will be extended by a week, and the votecount will be reset. You may only use this ability on a Day when every post of yours contains the word 'kerfuffle'."
tom: nice
can i give manders' role from disinheritance (take away someones ability to kill anyone)?
Iso: Can you post the full role text that you want to incorporate here?
tom: (Quoting Azrael) Target player loses the ability to kill, so long as you are alive. If no mafia players are able to perform a kill, you (town) win the game.
dont really need the "win the game" part.
Iso: "Target player loses the ability to kill so long as you are alive. This does not affect factional abilities." is the only way I would allow that ability.
tom: makes sense
Can I give an extra life?
(next time you would die, you dont instead)
Iso: "The next time you would die, you will appear in the dead players list for the entirety of the next full Day/Night cycle, but without your role or alignment being revealed. You can not post in this time frame, nor can you take actions. You will be revived at the start of the following Day."
tom: final question:
can i give a day ability to take a dead players role?
either permanently/as long as you keep up a posting restriction, or for a cycle
basically i want to have silver's (claimed) role tomorrow for twilight even if silver dies, with a backup of taking mine/osi's or something if not
or maybe just a revive that only lasts for the rest of the day and a single night phase.
Iso: If you take a dead player's role in this game, you will lose your own in that timeframe.
Instead of a temp revive, what about a delayed death?
tom: i kind of like taking the dead players role and then getting yours back when you stop using the word "indubitably" in every post
can i make that ability with day activation?
Iso: You can't target members of the mafia in this way, but sure - just be aware that it will permanently be deactivated when they stop using the word.
tom: hope i dont torpedo the game by including these posting restrictions...
gonna go with day activation to take a dead towny's role as long as you keep using the word "indubitably" in every post.
targeting zionite
i think you approved every part of that but the day activation part could be super important
Iso: Sure.
tomsloger: hmmm
second guessing myself
How would a revive work?
1 Would a revived player have their role?
2 How long could they stay?
3 Can i give them (or me) a posting restriction?
Iso: 1. In what context?
2. Depends on what you want them to be able to do.
3. Them, yes. Yourself, no. You can not target yourself.
tomsloger: nah stick with the original in #28
Iso: Also, I thought about it some more, and I've decided to decline reviving roles.
tom: damn
makes sense though
Iso: Extra lives are still fine though
tom: would they apply the night i give them?
like, target shadow tonight and he gets shot. what happens?
also lover interaction.
if i give it to silver, obviously it would protect him if rodemy got shot
but if he got shot, would rodemy still die?
(purely theoretical of course, not asking for confirmation they are lovers)
Iso: * Yes
* He lives
* I will not answer a question about another player's role.
tom: fair.
can i make a suicidal role?
like, die when you activate it
Iso: To clarify: If you give a player an extra life and they are killed, they will be considered "killed" for the sake of any role interactions.
No, suicide is a killing role.
tom: gonna go with
extra life to DV
if i can make it kill only (aka doesnt stop a lynch) ill do it, but meh.
Iso: Sure, it can be a kill-only extra life. He won't flip when he dies for reasons that I hope are obvious.
Successful resolution.
I'm gonna go ahead and say that granting multiple extra lives could cause a deadlock in the gamestate, so, let's just go ahead and say you can't grant abilities you've granted before.
Whatcha got for me?
tom: hrm
can i give shadow a one shot to make his vote count for 1.5 votes?
id like him to win a final 2, but not be able to draw a final 4
that might be dumb i need some sleep.
maybe an activatable mirror that reflects any actions taken on him for a single night back on whoever performed them?
Iso: Veto on the mirror.
There can't be a final 2.
tom: give shadow a 1 shot jailkeep?
no thats bad.
if its huntz, we win.
if its shadow, he kills dv which doesnt work and dv clears huntz
if its dv...
***** i lose to dv now.
if dv kills me he wins easily.
but he might no kill and claim he used his extra life.
which means shadow JKing him would stop the kill for f3?
ill try to think of a way to beat him even without him getting fancy.
lock in the Jailkeep for now.
Iso: shadow will obtain a 1-shot use of the following ability:
"Once per Night, you may target a player. All abilities that player uses will fail on the Night that you target them. All abilities that target that player will fail on the Night that you target them."
Confirm?
tom: Just to make aure:
Would that stop a factional kill?
If yes, confirmed
Iso: Yes
Successed
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Wow, I didn't even realize that 3 people got the Horsemen they wanted to be. Must be fate!
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm happily surprised that Shadow was scum.
I was rooting for the scum to win, sorry town! It was exciting to see what everyone was thinking/planning and see how it panned out. MAde me want to play another mafia game, which I probably shouldn't do but YOLO
I had a lot of fun adding little apocalyptic-themed comments to vote counts, and moreso personifying the event of an apocalypse as the actual character portrayed by Iso who ran the game (you'll see capital 'A's in my flavor). The challenge was the first thing I always wanted to write was always too indicative regarding inside information about the game state, which was a shame because I thought some of them would've been really cool but my number one goal was keep the theme of the game strong while also not contributing anything substantial to it. I had to keep it simple, I wanted to do something creative but I've been having too much trouble keeping up with my existing writing projects as it was, if I started writing blocks of flavor every post count (like I did for portal 2 mafia sometimes) I probably wouldn't ended up putting myself in a bad spot where I couldn't deliver
It all worked out though, I don't think any of it really impacted the game except adding to the atmosphere~ and it was never too difficult to come up, even when I was in a bind and had to crank out a vote count quickly. It was fun, too.
I hope everyone had a good time; I certainly enjoyed following along! My only regret is not pestering Iso about a spectator chat after night 2 or something, I would've also enjoyed seeing people's thoughts about the game as it kept going and maybe a little interaction myself
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Non-Staff Quasi-ModThose flavour names bothered me more than any of the rest weird unbalanced stuff in this game.
There were only two names that I actively checked heritage on.
The rest I thought that while passible it would probably challenge stereotypes since even a native born can end up with a different type of name ;P and would be more fun like that.
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Non-Staff Quasi-ModI could say something about those abominations you used as a Japanese, Russian and Finnish name... >_>
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't suppose you could post the full list of roles that would have had different/additional effects depending on what team they rolled?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
For those wondering, shadow's role name in Japanese roughly translates to "I won't say" (As in 'Name: I won't say')
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Non-Staff Quasi-ModActually, it's "I won't do, I don't speak" in a polite language.
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StaffThank you everyone for a great game! Thank you Iso and Jey for hosting.
Never suspected shadow.