I don't know if scum!DV lies and retracts claims so many times before, during, and after losing a partner.
Plus, zomg was fixated on him for his Neutral claim, so like.
Pressuring a fakeclaiming buddy is ??? too much risk, too little reward. Even if DV gets lynched and flips scum, zomg doesn't get any towncred; he looks bad for tunneling on a claimed Neutral.
By the way, in case I get run up, I'm just gonna go ahead and warn you that I'm sticking by this
Anak r 0mega
Mete0r r Atogaholic
Iso r kittyslot
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list as containing the rest of the scumteam. Barring role reveals or excessively scummy behavior from my townreads.
I don't know Mete0r's scumplay but I know they have the potential to be obvious town, and I'm already kinda leaning towards lynching them last in that list.
Iso needs to get into the flow of his game for his reads to have any relevance, so his entrance is pinging me hard as scum.
Lynch order is something like Iso/Anak > Hunt > Ghosting >>> Mete0r.
I don't know if scum!DV lies and retracts claims so many times before, during, and after losing a partner.
Plus, zomg was fixated on him for his Neutral claim, so like.
Pressuring a fakeclaiming buddy is ??? too much risk, too little reward. Even if DV gets lynched and flips scum, zomg doesn't get any towncred; he looks bad for tunneling on a claimed Neutral.
Well assuming D_V is ZOMG buddy and he is bussing him by fakeclaiming his name, you think ZOMG will just keep quiet about it? D_V is gonna get caught lying anyway once ZOMG flips so its not like he is protecting him in any way by not saying he lied. Actually keeping silent will just prove D_V even more mafia when ZOMG flips.
Oh I thought those two went together.
So you are saying ZOMG was fixated on D_V before he even fakeclaimed his name.
My bad, I'll read ZOMG posts again and see what I missed.
Oh I thought those two went together.
So you are saying ZOMG was fixated on D_V before he even fakeclaimed his name.
My bad, I'll read ZOMG posts again and see what I missed.
Oh yeah Zomg was super easy and I just gambited hella hard for the ZOMG lynch.
Oh I thought those two went together.
So you are saying ZOMG was fixated on D_V before he even fakeclaimed his name.
My bad, I'll read ZOMG posts again and see what I missed.
I don't know if scum!DV lies and retracts claims so many times before, during, and after losing a partner.
Plus, zomg was fixated on him for his Neutral claim, so like.
Pressuring a fakeclaiming buddy is ??? too much risk, too little reward. Even if DV gets lynched and flips scum, zomg doesn't get any towncred; he looks bad for tunneling on a claimed Neutral.
Well assuming D_V is ZOMG buddy and he is bussing him by fakeclaiming his name, you think ZOMG will just keep quiet about it? D_V is gonna get caught lying anyway once ZOMG flips so its not like he is protecting him in any way by not saying he lied. Actually keeping silent will just prove D_V even more mafia when ZOMG flips.
HE DID GET CAUGHT LYING THOUGH.
I made an entire post about it.
Go back and read
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list as containing the rest of the scumteam. Barring role reveals or excessively scummy behavior from my townreads.
I don't know Mete0r's scumplay but I know they have the potential to be obvious town, and I'm already kinda leaning towards lynching them last in that list.
Iso needs to get into the flow of his game for his reads to have any relevance, so his entrance is pinging me hard as scum.
Lynch order is something like Iso/Anak > Hunt > Ghosting >>> Mete0r.
Rofl.
You and D_V are just salty I caught you so quickly.
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list as containing the rest of the scumteam. Barring role reveals or excessively scummy behavior from my townreads.
I don't know Mete0r's scumplay but I know they have the potential to be obvious town, and I'm already kinda leaning towards lynching them last in that list.
Iso needs to get into the flow of his game for his reads to have any relevance, so his entrance is pinging me hard as scum.
Lynch order is something like Iso/Anak > Hunt > Ghosting >>> Mete0r.
Rofl.
You and D_V are just salty I caught you so quickly.
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Why are you voting vaimes? D_v is more scum for lying
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Everyone and their mother knows that Iso loves his electron cloud thing and that he solves games by looking at everyone's interactions and explaining how the scumteam is linked (and occasionally how some people are obvious town).
This is not at all what I expect from town!Iso replacing in. I'm surprised he hasn't read more of the game when it was clear that kitty had no interest in posting.
Oh I thought those two went together.
So you are saying ZOMG was fixated on D_V before he even fakeclaimed his name.
My bad, I'll read ZOMG posts again and see what I missed.
Oh yeah Zomg was super easy and I just gambited hella hard for the ZOMG lynch.
Why the gambit? He was on his way to get lynched anyway (he was at claiming range L-2).
If you are wrong then you get instantly mislynched there.
Unless you know ZOMG is mafia.
Also, can you answer #726? Thanks.
I also checked and Vaimes is right about ZOMG attacking neutral D_V, it could mean D_V was supposed to be a town mislynch (its also possible its distancing so bleh).
Honestly, in what world is D_V not scum here? We had no kill, he was jailed, he had a bunch of bs claims yesterday probably to confuse the PRs...I just don't see how he isn't blatantly scum. Can anyone explain how he isn't our instantly chosen lynch today?
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In Stargate, Iso caught the entire scumteam in the first couple of pages. He was Neutral, but that's still not mafia.
In Townville, Iso caught the majority of the scumteam very early and walked everyone through why his reads were correct.
In the Invitational, Iso caught the entire scumteam in ~100 posts, and it was all based on how the beginning of the game flowed.
Maybe Iso's just a butt when he replaces in, but you can see why I'm skeptical of his entrance and reads here. No, he doesn't need to catch the entire scumteam for me to townread him, but the way he's playing doesn't suggest to me that this is town!Iso.
In Stargate, Iso caught the entire scumteam in the first couple of pages. He was Neutral, but that's still not mafia.
In Townville, Iso caught the majority of the scumteam very early and walked everyone through why his reads were correct.
In the Invitational, Iso caught the entire scumteam in ~100 posts, and it was all based on how the beginning of the game flowed.
Maybe Iso's just a butt when he replaces in, but you can see why I'm skeptical of his entrance and reads here. No, he doesn't need to catch the entire scumteam for me to townread him, but the way he's playing doesn't suggest to me that this is town!Iso.
Is that clear?
Do you think any of your opinion might be influenced by him calling you scum?
In Stargate, Iso caught the entire scumteam in the first couple of pages. He was Neutral, but that's still not mafia.
In Townville, Iso caught the majority of the scumteam very early and walked everyone through why his reads were correct.
In the Invitational, Iso caught the entire scumteam in ~100 posts, and it was all based on how the beginning of the game flowed.
Maybe Iso's just a butt when he replaces in, but you can see why I'm skeptical of his entrance and reads here. No, he doesn't need to catch the entire scumteam for me to townread him, but the way he's playing doesn't suggest to me that this is town!Iso.
Is that clear?
Shiw me scum!iso without using met.
Oh.. you can't...
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Rod, I am going to ignore you for a bit. Feel free to pursue my lynch.
Anak, I already had the kittyslot in my lynch pool. Iso's entrance pinged me as scummy. I have explained why. Where is the overreaction?
Ghosting, you think scum!DV was exactly the one to have made the kill after drawing so much attention to himself?
It boils down to WIFOM, but it's not like he isn't experienced enough to make such a play. His play was not beneficial to town, he made it harder for PRs to figure the game out, scum already knows who's town so they get a narrow pool as is, and it's not like pulling a gambit to get a player you think is scum lynched is something I can ever genuinely agree with -- unless he's scum, he just did a bunch of bs that made the game confusing, made it easier for scum to hide, and ultimately, could've killed a town player.
In Stargate, Iso caught the entire scumteam in the first couple of pages. He was Neutral, but that's still not mafia.
In Townville, Iso caught the majority of the scumteam very early and walked everyone through why his reads were correct.
In the Invitational, Iso caught the entire scumteam in ~100 posts, and it was all based on how the beginning of the game flowed.
Maybe Iso's just a butt when he replaces in, but you can see why I'm skeptical of his entrance and reads here. No, he doesn't need to catch the entire scumteam for me to townread him, but the way he's playing doesn't suggest to me that this is town!Iso.
Is that clear?
Do you think any of your opinion might be influenced by him calling you scum?
Not really. It's the manner in which he's presenting the read. He's scumread me as town when I was also town before; I'm not scumreading him for being wrong.
But given that his slot is completely blank and I have townreads elsewhere, the other reasons I've laid out are swaying me more than his scumread on me.
I don't know if scum!DV lies and retracts claims so many times before, during, and after losing a partner.
Plus, zomg was fixated on him for his Neutral claim, so like.
Pressuring a fakeclaiming buddy is ??? too much risk, too little reward. Even if DV gets lynched and flips scum, zomg doesn't get any towncred; he looks bad for tunneling on a claimed Neutral.
Well assuming D_V is ZOMG buddy and he is bussing him by fakeclaiming his name, you think ZOMG will just keep quiet about it? D_V is gonna get caught lying anyway once ZOMG flips so its not like he is protecting him in any way by not saying he lied. Actually keeping silent will just prove D_V even more mafia when ZOMG flips.
HE DID GET CAUGHT LYING THOUGH.
I made an entire post about it.
Go back and read
Um did you see my post asking him why he lied about it? And no, "for the lul value" is not an answer I don't see how the jailer doesn't kill D_V after him saying that, so I think thats probably D_V lying again.
Rod, I am going to ignore you for a bit. Feel free to pursue my lynch.
Anak, I already had the kittyslot in my lynch pool. Iso's entrance pinged me as scummy. I have explained why. Where is the overreaction?
Ghosting, you think scum!DV was exactly the one to have made the kill after drawing so much attention to himself?
It boils down to WIFOM, but it's not like he isn't experienced enough to make such a play. His play was not beneficial to town, he made it harder for PRs to figure the game out, scum already knows who's town so they get a narrow pool as is, and it's not like pulling a gambit to get a player you think is scum lynched is something I can ever genuinely agree with -- unless he's scum, he just did a bunch of bs that made the game confusing, made it easier for scum to hide, and ultimately, could've killed a town player.
I am reading this as "scumreading him because he's bad."
I am reading this as "scumreading him because he's bad."
I've seen worse plays from town, so I disagree.
I mean, if you generalize any scum read as "because he's bad", you can cover a lot of ground. For example...
Someone flails -- Oh, they're just bad.
Someone jumps vote around opportunistically -- Oh, they're just bad.
Someone intentionally makes it harder for town to solve the game -- Oh, they're just bad.
I could go on, but obviously you get the point. He's just bad is hardly an excuse for behavior that is scummy -- as well as a lack of an NK after being jailed.
Everyone and their mother knows that Iso loves his electron cloud thing and that he solves games by looking at everyone's interactions and explaining how the scumteam is linked (and occasionally how some people are obvious town).
This is not at all what I expect from town!Iso replacing in. I'm surprised he hasn't read more of the game when it was clear that kitty had no interest in posting.
>implying I read any of the game and would know that kitty wasn't posting
Uh, no. I believe town!Iso would base his reads on the /beginning/ of the game, if he wasn't going to read all of it.
And it's scummy because it bleeds into "Iso doesn't believe in/care about/back up his reads" which is very much a scum!Iso trait.
I gave my reasons. My reads are valid with the Panic! at the Disco surrounding the zomg wagon and the end of Day. You're hyperposting and you clearly feel pressured. If you expect me to believe you're town, you're sure doing a funny job of showing it.
In Stargate, Iso caught the entire scumteam in the first couple of pages. He was Neutral, but that's still not mafia.
In Townville, Iso caught the majority of the scumteam very early and walked everyone through why his reads were correct.
In the Invitational, Iso caught the entire scumteam in ~100 posts, and it was all based on how the beginning of the game flowed.
Maybe Iso's just a butt when he replaces in, but you can see why I'm skeptical of his entrance and reads here. No, he doesn't need to catch the entire scumteam for me to townread him, but the way he's playing doesn't suggest to me that this is town!Iso.
Is that clear?
Hi Vaimes! I suggest you read my entrance to Deus Ex Mafia and Mind Screw Mafia if you're going to continue pursue this bull***** line of attack.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
ToDay's competing wagons are going to be DV and Rod. Obviously.
More people need to post thoughts on that.
No yeah jailer.
Remember our conversation?
Vote Vaimes
D_V is talking to someone that is obviously not going to respond, or outright DNE. Alright, that is kinda fishy. Also, if he really is jailed, the brevity of the night doesn't make sense to me. The Jailor needs time to talk to his target.
To further counter his statement that he is helped by a doc, D_V is not a potential NK target to me. He is extremely suspected as scum by Rodemy, and we all know he is going to be a lynch target day 2. Therefore no TP is going to go help him.
One theory that I had is that D_V is the jailor, and he is ****ing around just to draw enough flak from town that he won't get the NK. No one have counterclaimed being jailed yet, so this might just be the case.
Plus, zomg was fixated on him for his Neutral claim, so like.
Pressuring a fakeclaiming buddy is ??? too much risk, too little reward. Even if DV gets lynched and flips scum, zomg doesn't get any towncred; he looks bad for tunneling on a claimed Neutral.
I'm considering making you dead now.
But He's Iso.
So d_v and vaimes are probably scum.
Vaimes comes in saying "rod or d_v wagon" and then difuses every point for a d_v wagon.
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list as containing the rest of the scumteam. Barring role reveals or excessively scummy behavior from my townreads.
I don't know Mete0r's scumplay but I know they have the potential to be obvious town, and I'm already kinda leaning towards lynching them last in that list.
Iso needs to get into the flow of his game for his reads to have any relevance, so his entrance is pinging me hard as scum.
Lynch order is something like Iso/Anak > Hunt > Ghosting >>> Mete0r.
Well assuming D_V is ZOMG buddy and he is bussing him by fakeclaiming his name, you think ZOMG will just keep quiet about it? D_V is gonna get caught lying anyway once ZOMG flips so its not like he is protecting him in any way by not saying he lied. Actually keeping silent will just prove D_V even more mafia when ZOMG flips.
Unvote Vote Iso
So you are saying ZOMG was fixated on D_V before he even fakeclaimed his name.
My bad, I'll read ZOMG posts again and see what I missed.
Vote Iso
Oh yeah Zomg was super easy and I just gambited hella hard for the ZOMG lynch.
Thanks.
HE DID GET CAUGHT LYING THOUGH.
I made an entire post about it.
Go back and read
Rofl.
You and D_V are just salty I caught you so quickly.
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Why are you voting vaimes? D_v is more scum for lying
I said this further up on the page.
Lied to get someone already up for lynch to get lycnhed?
Lied about being a nuet.
Lied about being tracer.
Zomg was a wagon i started.
And you and vaimes both seem to forget that.
This is not at all what I expect from town!Iso replacing in. I'm surprised he hasn't read more of the game when it was clear that kitty had no interest in posting.
@Rod I too think Ghosting is scum, what about him caught your eye?
This is a team game. Calm your ego.
None of his lies have resulted in anything antitown, so. I'm not inclined to lynch him. Sorry.
You are straight up an idiot if you think that wagon would have gone without me.
By definition wouldn't this happen regardless of alignment? Or why is it scummy instead of meaningless?
I know. Becauzw you are scum with him.
@anuk is it bad gameplay if him posting during night sealed it?
The interaction from yesterDay has me thinking he is scum mostly.
And it's scummy because it bleeds into "Iso doesn't believe in/care about/back up his reads" which is very much a scum!Iso trait.
Why the gambit? He was on his way to get lynched anyway (he was at claiming range L-2).
If you are wrong then you get instantly mislynched there.
Unless you know ZOMG is mafia.
Also, can you answer #726? Thanks.
I also checked and Vaimes is right about ZOMG attacking neutral D_V, it could mean D_V was supposed to be a town mislynch (its also possible its distancing so bleh).
Just because that's his main way of solving a game doesn't make it the only way. Your post and vote comes off as such an overreaction though.
I see that someone asked me for a t/s list, just got off my first day back at school and been up since 7am so I'll get to it after homework and everything, just checking in because I feel like this game just got solved overnight.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
In Townville, Iso caught the majority of the scumteam very early and walked everyone through why his reads were correct.
In the Invitational, Iso caught the entire scumteam in ~100 posts, and it was all based on how the beginning of the game flowed.
Maybe Iso's just a butt when he replaces in, but you can see why I'm skeptical of his entrance and reads here. No, he doesn't need to catch the entire scumteam for me to townread him, but the way he's playing doesn't suggest to me that this is town!Iso.
Is that clear?
Do you think any of your opinion might be influenced by him calling you scum?
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Anak, I already had the kittyslot in my lynch pool. Iso's entrance pinged me as scummy. I have explained why. Where is the overreaction?
Ghosting, you think scum!DV was exactly the one to have made the kill after drawing so much attention to himself?
Shiw me scum!iso without using met.
Oh.. you can't...
It boils down to WIFOM, but it's not like he isn't experienced enough to make such a play. His play was not beneficial to town, he made it harder for PRs to figure the game out, scum already knows who's town so they get a narrow pool as is, and it's not like pulling a gambit to get a player you think is scum lynched is something I can ever genuinely agree with -- unless he's scum, he just did a bunch of bs that made the game confusing, made it easier for scum to hide, and ultimately, could've killed a town player.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
But given that his slot is completely blank and I have townreads elsewhere, the other reasons I've laid out are swaying me more than his scumread on me.
Um did you see my post asking him why he lied about it? And no, "for the lul value" is not an answer I don't see how the jailer doesn't kill D_V after him saying that, so I think thats probably D_V lying again.
Thanks for deciding to ignore Rod. He's such a hard guy to reason with, so why bother?
Keep doing you,
future!Vaimes
I've seen worse plays from town, so I disagree.
Be back tomorrow night.
D_V. Namecaim.
I mean, if you generalize any scum read as "because he's bad", you can cover a lot of ground. For example...
Someone flails -- Oh, they're just bad.
Someone jumps vote around opportunistically -- Oh, they're just bad.
Someone intentionally makes it harder for town to solve the game -- Oh, they're just bad.
I could go on, but obviously you get the point. He's just bad is hardly an excuse for behavior that is scummy -- as well as a lack of an NK after being jailed.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
So you think by making me seem stupid, it's gonna lessen my scum read of you?
Not really? I've caught scum for less, immediately upon replacing in, too.
>implying I read any of the game and would know that kitty wasn't posting
I gave my reasons. My reads are valid with the Panic! at the Disco surrounding the zomg wagon and the end of Day. You're hyperposting and you clearly feel pressured. If you expect me to believe you're town, you're sure doing a funny job of showing it.
Hi Vaimes! I suggest you read my entrance to Deus Ex Mafia and Mind Screw Mafia if you're going to continue pursue this bull***** line of attack.
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My jailer encouraged me to fake another one.
But. I don't think anything will be gained from that.
Genji.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
What? Your jailer encouraged you to fake another one?
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Lynch d_v
There is no way you can just shrug off yesterday and chalk it up to "******* off"
He. Lied.
D_V is talking to someone that is obviously not going to respond, or outright DNE. Alright, that is kinda fishy. Also, if he really is jailed, the brevity of the night doesn't make sense to me. The Jailor needs time to talk to his target.
To further counter his statement that he is helped by a doc, D_V is not a potential NK target to me. He is extremely suspected as scum by Rodemy, and we all know he is going to be a lynch target day 2. Therefore no TP is going to go help him.
One theory that I had is that D_V is the jailor, and he is ****ing around just to draw enough flak from town that he won't get the NK. No one have counterclaimed being jailed yet, so this might just be the case.
You ccing him did nothing but cause confusion.
He got to claim range without your "help"
Show me where you helped.
Also, get lynched.
Thnx ♡♡