@Shadow yeah of course I meant you, long day and names blended together
@DV Isn't every attack at this point of the game more or less a weak sauce attack? I mean we have 100 posts to go off of, and probably a third if those mean basically nothing
Does it really do any good to make that info public (rather than noting it privately)? You could just come back and note the post later if your read solidified enough to make an accusation that you actually wanted to talk about. The way you're talking, you care far too much about how others perceive your (potential future) case (i.e. "Manders has had Axelrod down as scum from the start").
And? Is that something ONLY a Scum player would do?
When I play Mafia, I'm always thinking about every possible outcome I can see and their effects, both immediately and in the long run. This is a result of that.
So. I say to you again. How does this make me Scum?
It's not something only a scum player would do, nothing is quite that black and white. Undue concern for how your opinions will be perceived by others in the future is, however, indicative of a scum mindset.
@Shadow yeah of course I meant you, long day and names blended together
@DV Isn't every attack at this point of the game more or less a weak sauce attack? I mean we have 100 posts to go off of, and probably a third if those mean basically nothing
Yeah but that vote was appearing to be serious and engaged.
@Shadow yeah of course I meant you, long day and names blended together
@DV Isn't every attack at this point of the game more or less a weak sauce attack? I mean we have 100 posts to go off of, and probably a third if those mean basically nothing
So, like, a bunch of people should Empower me, or something.
Also, who wants to be Neighbors with me? That seems like the most useful way to utilize the one-way comms thing, rather than just making everything one-way and lame.
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Happy Thanksgiving everyone, no cooking for me today just dinner with the brother talk about some HYPE for free time this weekend. Haven't read a single post other than the opener. Whose ready for some shootin' from the hip.
Nah I've got time, I'll read.
Sup Iso and Cyan, the best two players ever imho.
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First off, I'm not going to read the spec ops thread and none of you can make me. Although I might choose a 1 way conversation with Vaimes simply to tell him I am mafia over and over and saying “No one will believe you!” Actually I can't do that since I've said it, but god it was my first thought when I saw the lists and that ability. God bless Vaimes.
Post # 37 makes Axelrod town on the basis that scum do not tend to go out of their way to make arbitrary reasons to town clear people. It's not in their thinking process to do so, a town member trying to solve the game will think of weird things like this. I think a singular post can be faked though, so this is ultimately a poor thought process from Axelrod, but those tend to be town as well so double the confirmation, double the town fun.
Oh man, follow up post by Manders (38 for those who can't keep track of numbers) is really scummy. I really don't like it when people make a post to say “I don't know what to make of this” when it is about themselves. Like, I am confused about a lot of things over the course of a game but direct interaction when my name is called is usually not one of them. So yeah, not really feeling Manders as town based on that reaction to Axelrod. Also because conclusions that are away from my own observations tend to arise my suspicions a bit, unless they are like Iso or Cyan who I have learned to accept are sometimes just silly geese.
… and then in post 39 GJ gives me the opposite of my reads of those posts. Johnny give the observations I posted above about Axel and Manders, what was it that caused you to reach the exact opposite conclusion as I did?
@ Manders 40 - Manders I have no idea who you are or how good you are but given this player list I doubt you're going to have any problems living. Also I am not in the mood, having been gone for months due to work related busyness, to care to lay low like I do sometimes so the scum team is probably not going to be overtly fond of me either. Let's be pals.
Man this string of posts is actually interesting, good for you guys to getting to fun stuff before page 1 is over.
IceMan yeah way too deep. Like, people can fake excitement over short stretches super easy. Emotion tells don't tend to be very valuable unless you've got the heart beat of someone extremely well. I'm pretty hyped to be playing and it has nothing to do with my alignment, and I haven't been gone nearly as long as whoever this person is. That being said good vote on Manders, solid reasoning and I like the thought process (it is similar to my own, and I tend to think in a weird way common scum can't replicate)
# 45 is such a scum post by the way. Such a scum post. At this post I am voting Manders at the end of my quick catch up unless something really VILLAINOUS happens.
I have also never liked it when people ask people to explain why they are scum. Intellectually I get it, but man from vast experience that's just scum more than town asking the question.
Because I didn't WANT to say anything more. Why do I have to share EVERYTHING that goes through my head? (HINT: I don't.)
I made a note on it so that, if I decided my initial thoughts were right and he IS scum, I could make reference to that post to show that he had been pinging since the beginning. (And because I like to see if my initial thoughts were correct once the game is over. You wouldn't believe how many times I've caught scum off one post because of my gut instincts.)
This is an interesting post because it could come from two perspectives, a poor play town perspective and a smart play scum perspective and I don't know enough of Manders to know which is more objectively likely. She talks about an essential burden here that I feel like bad players and scum share: the burden to commit. For an aggressive town player like myself I will pass along most anything that slips from my mind into the topic because I am trying to overpower the game with my will and with my influence, it's kind of my 'thing' as a player and I like to saturate the game. However Manders here expresses the fact that she doesn't HAVE TO. She's not OBLIGATED to do so. Scum like to, usually secretly without admitting it, do only whatever it takes to avoid detection. Sometimes this is about successfully fighting off this urge and blending into a town very well, but often times they just can't help themselves to not want to overshare.
Now where this dips into a mostly scum post (as in, if this post was posted 10,000 times it would come from scum 8,000 times) is the method of her madness: the ability to go back and prove her suspicion. Scum like to be able to have a great case. The bulletproof case. “See guys? I suspected him way back when, you can't shoot holes in me!” but its very existence tends to be a bullet hole. It's self serving. It's not hunting scum, it's protecting your vital organs so when you get shot you can bounce back. It doesn't tend to be a town mindset.
I like Tom's pressure on GJ because I agree, GJ hasn't been great in this thread so far.
And then D_V has the opposite reaction. Interesting with a capital I.
Also holy ***** town tom totally makes bucket loads of weak sauce attacks, what is D_V on about. It's like 80% of town Tom's game to flail and then try to pounce. Ironic that he is attacking Tom for weaksauce when anyone who has ever played with Tom should recognize how bogus this is.
And then thread is over okay cool.
If at any point you think you can trust me to be town, feel free to empower me because I have some hilarious stuff to dick over scum with. Like, if I am rolling good on my reads and am empowered scum is pretty much done.
##vote: Manders
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That being said, out of all of that surely there is more for you to think on then a throw away line about yourself, or does scum Cyan just ctrl + f these days ;x.
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That being said, out of all of that surely there is more for you to think on then a throw away line about yourself, or does scum Cyan just ctrl + f these days ;x.
I mean. I don't think Manders is scum currently, she's just a type of player that is going to rub you, in particular, the wrong way. Literally forever. She is unconventional.
0-TEST A TARGET PLAYER FOR HAVING PASSIVE ABILITIES AND TEMPORARILY (time unspecified and I asked Azrael about it) BLOCK THE TARGET FROM HAVING THEM IF THEY DO. I DONT LEARN WHAT THE PASSIVE IS, JUST WHETHER OR NOT I BLOCKED A PASSIVE.
2-MOVE ALL OF TARGET PLAYER'S PASSIVE ABILITIES TO ANOTHER TARGET PLAYER.
I WIN AND LEAVE THE GAME WHEN NOBODY HAS THEIR ORIGINAL PASSIVE ABILITIES
So. Start taking advantage of this while I'm still here.
0-TEST A TARGET PLAYER FOR HAVING PASSIVE ABILITIES AND TEMPORARILY (time unspecified and I asked Azrael about it) BLOCK THE TARGET FROM HAVING THEM IF THEY DO. I DONT LEARN WHAT THE PASSIVE IS, JUST WHETHER OR NOT I BLOCKED A PASSIVE.
2-MOVE ALL OF TARGET PLAYER'S PASSIVE ABILITIES TO ANOTHER TARGET PLAYER.
I WIN AND LEAVE THE GAME WHEN NOBODY HAS THEIR ORIGINAL PASSIVE ABILITIES
So. Start taking advantage of this while I'm still here.
I'm not sure what to make of this claim, but w/e.
Seppel, does using your 0-ability make people count towards your wincon?
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Also modgaming Bur setups is kind of treading down a dark path
0-TEST A TARGET PLAYER FOR HAVING PASSIVE ABILITIES AND TEMPORARILY (time unspecified and I asked Azrael about it) BLOCK THE TARGET FROM HAVING THEM IF THEY DO. I DONT LEARN WHAT THE PASSIVE IS, JUST WHETHER OR NOT I BLOCKED A PASSIVE.
2-MOVE ALL OF TARGET PLAYER'S PASSIVE ABILITIES TO ANOTHER TARGET PLAYER.
I WIN AND LEAVE THE GAME WHEN NOBODY HAS THEIR ORIGINAL PASSIVE ABILITIES
So. Start taking advantage of this while I'm still here.
I'm not sure what to make of this claim, but w/e.
Seppel, does using your 0-ability make people count towards your wincon?
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0-TEST A TARGET PLAYER FOR HAVING PASSIVE ABILITIES AND TEMPORARILY (time unspecified and I asked Azrael about it) BLOCK THE TARGET FROM HAVING THEM IF THEY DO. I DONT LEARN WHAT THE PASSIVE IS, JUST WHETHER OR NOT I BLOCKED A PASSIVE.
2-MOVE ALL OF TARGET PLAYER'S PASSIVE ABILITIES TO ANOTHER TARGET PLAYER.
I WIN AND LEAVE THE GAME WHEN NOBODY HAS THEIR ORIGINAL PASSIVE ABILITIES
So. Start taking advantage of this while I'm still here.
I'm not sure what to make of this claim, but w/e.
Seppel, does using your 0-ability make people count towards your wincon?
3 pages later and that's all you've got?
More or less yes.
This is the only thing that I find relatively interesting during the past 3 pages.
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how does it not?
It sounds like a neutral claim from trigger happy
Seems gambitty.
Which is NAI for seppel of course
But him being neutral is no more likely than before and I wouldn't tell him about any passive abilities
how does it not?
It sounds like a neutral claim from trigger happy
Seems gambitty.
Which is NAI for seppel of course
But him being neutral is no more likely than before and I wouldn't tell him about any passive abilities
That's literally ever neutral ever and I watched you eat the last neutral claims up with a ladle.
I am pretty sure one of my first games on here I was scum with seppel (memory says... Wu Tang) and he claimed neutral, but it was rather more forced than all of this.
D_V is probably scum mostly because he has called Tom scum twice now and acted like it was a new read the second time. But my new friend Manders first.
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I thought I understood D_V and Tordeck's methods of playing Mafia at one point and then it just turned out I was wrong.
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@Chris: What, no thank you? No "Iso wtf why aren't you attacking me yet"? Come onnn.
Why would you attack me? We're just a couple of pro town townies sitting around discussing mafia.
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Anyway, can we talk about how badly Bur is scum right now?
And by talk, I mean vote him into oblivion?
That's funny I was thinking the same thing, I also agreed with Cyan on Anak as well.
@Tom I always read GJ as Town until he does something to sway me of that opinion. He really hasn't been scummy to me. Specifically not over players like Bur and Anak.
I don't see any scum ability being based around passives its too weird to me, there would have to be a lot of passives in the game.
I'll watch Seppels actions and worry about it later. You too for that matter you are seeming more town. Unvote
What do you think about the rest of the game?
Happy Thanksgiving, laying down some slank cover for the next 48 hours or so as I help my father do a bunch of random ***** around the house.
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@GJ I mean, an RVS post is an RVS post, though I'm beginning to think you will always suspect me. So it goes, there will always be our Cops wolf chat.
@silver Yeah I mean, that's fair. In my defense it was a lot of fun.
Tom looks to be very Tom at this point, what does scum!Tom do differently than town!Tom here DV?
Hmm,
I didn't suspect you in AA, at least not after day 0. I was scum in Drunk Trackers, wrong in Shia Lebouf, and correct in Cops. I don't tink I am always suspecting you. I think you do seem to get legitmately uncomfortable dealing with me, and I don't like your reaction to Cyan. Vote Anak.
Chris, Chris, Chris, I have been waiting a while to (hopefully) work together with you for a while, ever since the AA bonding. Here is where I am at.
I'll be honest, I am going against my read on Axel. My initial dislike of his Manders read was primarily coming from the fact that two of his points had nothing to do with her posts. Especially the part about Az not likely giving her a scum role. It just rubbed me the wrong way, like he was looking for an excuse to town read (or pocket Manders). The more I have thought about it though, I think you are correct about arbitrarily giving town reads (even if I disagree that wolves do this all the time). I think what made me agree that it isn't a point against him is that the read is so early. Saying Mander's tone is town, and that changing that tune 100+ posts in wouldn't really be suspicious. His read though wouldn't in theory change as the day goes on, because it wouldn't be all based on her posts. It could still be a pocket play, but it was a blatantly obvious one. All of that said, he kind of disappeared so I don't know what to make of that.
As far as Manders goes, the way she came across towards Axel struck me as a feeling that she was being pocketed. Her back and forth with TIM also feels like she doesn't understand why she is being read that way in a genuine way, and it does feel like TIM is stretching a bit, even if Manders could explain things more.
My only reaction to seppel's post was something along the lines of "Another ******* neutral...." >:(
DV also feels town, so we are just in opposite land right now. Tom I am not sure of. I never understood the point of calling something a "pressure vote".
There are a lot of very meta, interesting reasons to call something a pressure vote. I think Tom just isn't very nuanced in his approach to the game of mafia.
I disagree with Manders feeling like she was being pocketed btw. I think that was the impression she was going for. This is tempered a bit that I have 0 experience with her I suppose, but I think I am seeing through her better than you may be at present. Although I feel as if you could be scum who just let me have a town axel as a peace offering to protect scum manders. Independent mind you, you've done a couple of things that have aroused my suspicion a little bit. Nothing I can pin down quite yet, but this post makes me eager to hear what Dark Lord Manders has to say.
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There are a lot of very meta, interesting reasons to call something a pressure vote. I think Tom just isn't very nuanced in his approach to the game of mafia.
I disagree with Manders feeling like she was being pocketed btw. I think that was the impression she was going for. This is tempered a bit that I have 0 experience with her I suppose, but I think I am seeing through her better than you may be at present. Although I feel as if you could be scum who just let me have a town axel as a peace offering to protect scum manders. Independent mind you, you've done a couple of things that have aroused my suspicion a little bit. Nothing I can pin down quite yet, but this post makes me eager to hear what Dark Lord Manders has to say.
I am curious to see what those are. I don't think you have ever scum read me except in games you were scum.
Have you ever been scum in a game where I have beent own, GJ?
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Passing thoughts: I forget how I feel about tom. He's one of those players whose posts I always skim because I find that I always scum read him for some reason or another and then I also sometimes townread him for other stuff he does later on, so I'm generally conflicted about my tom reads. I'll probably try to parse him later in the game once I have some scum corpses. That said, I'm not particularly fond of "give me something spicier" from going up to bat for Bur.
Have I expressed my townread on Manders? Because that's a thing, too.
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Can you go into more detail about the Manders read please? Also more specifically parse through my logic and tell me where my fallacy is in my thinking, I am curious to hear a discussion surrounding that.
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While your logic seems fine at a base level, I think that it only applies to inexperienced/bad players. Manders has been playing Mafia longer than I have and full well knows the importance of putting one's opinion out there. She gets very emotionally involved in the game (if her indignant response is any indicator of that; and, in fact, another thing that I think makes her town), which can discolor her judgment on certain things, but she's not a bad player by any means. Given my history with Manders, I'd say it's a fair supposition that I know how she thinks - at least to a good extent - and that she wanted to make the fact that she had an opinion on the matter known. I don't think it's at all weird for her to not say what it is - at least, given her playstyle - and that she's shaking the rust off after an extended absence from Mafia.
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Dis weaksauce.
@DV Isn't every attack at this point of the game more or less a weak sauce attack? I mean we have 100 posts to go off of, and probably a third if those mean basically nothing
It's not something only a scum player would do, nothing is quite that black and white. Undue concern for how your opinions will be perceived by others in the future is, however, indicative of a scum mindset.
Yeah but that vote was appearing to be serious and engaged.
When in fact it wasn't.
THAT is a weaksauce attack
Doesn't make you scum, but come on man
Like, don't you get tired of scumreading me?
kinda think manders/iceman are both town
Yup
Serious and engaged.
That's me
Eh.
Vote Anak
For realsies.
Oh I get it, you are trying to one up DV in his weaksauce vote competition.
@DV Fair enough, that I can at least see how you got to that point. Still think you could make that point about many people so far
Benefits include:
Having a chat with me
Remember it only goes one way, so they would only be able to talk at you, but not to you.
Also, what makes you think Manders and Iceman are both town, this early I feel like it has nothing to do with alignment.
Lame
As for manders/iceman
Its cause hes scum and knows whos scum and town mate.
(NEXT TIME I'LL READ THE THREAD)
Thoughts:
This setup seems pretty cool.
So, like, a bunch of people should Empower me, or something.
Also, who wants to be Neighbors with me? That seems like the most useful way to utilize the one-way comms thing, rather than just making everything one-way and lame.
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This feels like a really poor reaction.
Nah I've got time, I'll read.
Sup Iso and Cyan, the best two players ever imho.
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First off, I'm not going to read the spec ops thread and none of you can make me. Although I might choose a 1 way conversation with Vaimes simply to tell him I am mafia over and over and saying “No one will believe you!” Actually I can't do that since I've said it, but god it was my first thought when I saw the lists and that ability. God bless Vaimes.
Post # 37 makes Axelrod town on the basis that scum do not tend to go out of their way to make arbitrary reasons to town clear people. It's not in their thinking process to do so, a town member trying to solve the game will think of weird things like this. I think a singular post can be faked though, so this is ultimately a poor thought process from Axelrod, but those tend to be town as well so double the confirmation, double the town fun.
Oh man, follow up post by Manders (38 for those who can't keep track of numbers) is really scummy. I really don't like it when people make a post to say “I don't know what to make of this” when it is about themselves. Like, I am confused about a lot of things over the course of a game but direct interaction when my name is called is usually not one of them. So yeah, not really feeling Manders as town based on that reaction to Axelrod. Also because conclusions that are away from my own observations tend to arise my suspicions a bit, unless they are like Iso or Cyan who I have learned to accept are sometimes just silly geese.
… and then in post 39 GJ gives me the opposite of my reads of those posts. Johnny give the observations I posted above about Axel and Manders, what was it that caused you to reach the exact opposite conclusion as I did?
@ Manders 40 - Manders I have no idea who you are or how good you are but given this player list I doubt you're going to have any problems living. Also I am not in the mood, having been gone for months due to work related busyness, to care to lay low like I do sometimes so the scum team is probably not going to be overtly fond of me either. Let's be pals.
Man this string of posts is actually interesting, good for you guys to getting to fun stuff before page 1 is over.
IceMan yeah way too deep. Like, people can fake excitement over short stretches super easy. Emotion tells don't tend to be very valuable unless you've got the heart beat of someone extremely well. I'm pretty hyped to be playing and it has nothing to do with my alignment, and I haven't been gone nearly as long as whoever this person is. That being said good vote on Manders, solid reasoning and I like the thought process (it is similar to my own, and I tend to think in a weird way common scum can't replicate)
# 45 is such a scum post by the way. Such a scum post. At this post I am voting Manders at the end of my quick catch up unless something really VILLAINOUS happens.
I have also never liked it when people ask people to explain why they are scum. Intellectually I get it, but man from vast experience that's just scum more than town asking the question.
This is an interesting post because it could come from two perspectives, a poor play town perspective and a smart play scum perspective and I don't know enough of Manders to know which is more objectively likely. She talks about an essential burden here that I feel like bad players and scum share: the burden to commit. For an aggressive town player like myself I will pass along most anything that slips from my mind into the topic because I am trying to overpower the game with my will and with my influence, it's kind of my 'thing' as a player and I like to saturate the game. However Manders here expresses the fact that she doesn't HAVE TO. She's not OBLIGATED to do so. Scum like to, usually secretly without admitting it, do only whatever it takes to avoid detection. Sometimes this is about successfully fighting off this urge and blending into a town very well, but often times they just can't help themselves to not want to overshare.
Now where this dips into a mostly scum post (as in, if this post was posted 10,000 times it would come from scum 8,000 times) is the method of her madness: the ability to go back and prove her suspicion. Scum like to be able to have a great case. The bulletproof case. “See guys? I suspected him way back when, you can't shoot holes in me!” but its very existence tends to be a bullet hole. It's self serving. It's not hunting scum, it's protecting your vital organs so when you get shot you can bounce back. It doesn't tend to be a town mindset.
I like Tom's pressure on GJ because I agree, GJ hasn't been great in this thread so far.
And then D_V has the opposite reaction. Interesting with a capital I.
Also holy ***** town tom totally makes bucket loads of weak sauce attacks, what is D_V on about. It's like 80% of town Tom's game to flail and then try to pounce. Ironic that he is attacking Tom for weaksauce when anyone who has ever played with Tom should recognize how bogus this is.
And then thread is over okay cool.
If at any point you think you can trust me to be town, feel free to empower me because I have some hilarious stuff to dick over scum with. Like, if I am rolling good on my reads and am empowered scum is pretty much done.
##vote: Manders
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but i also will never really understand what DV does and im like whatever
chris can be town for now.
ill tunnel him for awhile day 3 or so if we're both alive.
I mean. I don't think Manders is scum currently, she's just a type of player that is going to rub you, in particular, the wrong way. Literally forever. She is unconventional.
And yes, I know. I was also being cheeky.
HERE ARE MY ABILITIES:
0-TEST A TARGET PLAYER FOR HAVING PASSIVE ABILITIES AND TEMPORARILY (time unspecified and I asked Azrael about it) BLOCK THE TARGET FROM HAVING THEM IF THEY DO. I DONT LEARN WHAT THE PASSIVE IS, JUST WHETHER OR NOT I BLOCKED A PASSIVE.
2-MOVE ALL OF TARGET PLAYER'S PASSIVE ABILITIES TO ANOTHER TARGET PLAYER.
I WIN AND LEAVE THE GAME WHEN NOBODY HAS THEIR ORIGINAL PASSIVE ABILITIES
So. Start taking advantage of this while I'm still here.
Tom overreacting to me calling him scum is making me think hes scum now.
Prove me wrong peps.
I'm not sure what to make of this claim, but w/e.
Seppel, does using your 0-ability make people count towards your wincon?
Love it
NO BRAKES
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Unrelatedly, I don't believe Seppel is any kind of Neutral.
@Chris: I think you're barking up the wrong tree with Manders. But, go nuts:
Empower Sir Chris
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More or less yes.
This is the only thing that I find relatively interesting during the past 3 pages.
How does that sound fake?
It sounds like a neutral claim from trigger happy
Seems gambitty.
Which is NAI for seppel of course
But him being neutral is no more likely than before and I wouldn't tell him about any passive abilities
That's literally ever neutral ever and I watched you eat the last neutral claims up with a ladle.
What about this is making it sound "suspicious".
That claim is almost always true coming from proph. Usually true from ghosting.
Me/seppel/gj? Prolly some sort of gambit.
What do you think of gj?
D_V is probably scum mostly because he has called Tom scum twice now and acted like it was a new read the second time. But my new friend Manders first.
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He'll be right eventually.
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@Chris: What, no thank you? No "Iso wtf why aren't you attacking me yet"? Come onnn.
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And by talk, I mean vote him into oblivion?
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Why would you attack me? We're just a couple of pro town townies sitting around discussing mafia.
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That's funny I was thinking the same thing, I also agreed with Cyan on Anak as well.
@Tom I always read GJ as Town until he does something to sway me of that opinion. He really hasn't been scummy to me. Specifically not over players like Bur and Anak.
I don't see any scum ability being based around passives its too weird to me, there would have to be a lot of passives in the game.
I'll watch Seppels actions and worry about it later. You too for that matter you are seeming more town.
Unvote
What do you think about the rest of the game?
Hmm,
I didn't suspect you in AA, at least not after day 0. I was scum in Drunk Trackers, wrong in Shia Lebouf, and correct in Cops. I don't tink I am always suspecting you. I think you do seem to get legitmately uncomfortable dealing with me, and I don't like your reaction to Cyan. Vote Anak.
Chris, Chris, Chris, I have been waiting a while to (hopefully) work together with you for a while, ever since the AA bonding. Here is where I am at.
I'll be honest, I am going against my read on Axel. My initial dislike of his Manders read was primarily coming from the fact that two of his points had nothing to do with her posts. Especially the part about Az not likely giving her a scum role. It just rubbed me the wrong way, like he was looking for an excuse to town read (or pocket Manders). The more I have thought about it though, I think you are correct about arbitrarily giving town reads (even if I disagree that wolves do this all the time). I think what made me agree that it isn't a point against him is that the read is so early. Saying Mander's tone is town, and that changing that tune 100+ posts in wouldn't really be suspicious. His read though wouldn't in theory change as the day goes on, because it wouldn't be all based on her posts. It could still be a pocket play, but it was a blatantly obvious one. All of that said, he kind of disappeared so I don't know what to make of that.
As far as Manders goes, the way she came across towards Axel struck me as a feeling that she was being pocketed. Her back and forth with TIM also feels like she doesn't understand why she is being read that way in a genuine way, and it does feel like TIM is stretching a bit, even if Manders could explain things more.
My only reaction to seppel's post was something along the lines of "Another ******* neutral...." >:(
DV also feels town, so we are just in opposite land right now. Tom I am not sure of. I never understood the point of calling something a "pressure vote".
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I disagree with Manders feeling like she was being pocketed btw. I think that was the impression she was going for. This is tempered a bit that I have 0 experience with her I suppose, but I think I am seeing through her better than you may be at present. Although I feel as if you could be scum who just let me have a town axel as a peace offering to protect scum manders. Independent mind you, you've done a couple of things that have aroused my suspicion a little bit. Nothing I can pin down quite yet, but this post makes me eager to hear what Dark Lord Manders has to say.
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Agreed that Bur's response is underwhelming. Unvote, Vote Bur
I am curious to see what those are. I don't think you have ever scum read me except in games you were scum.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Lke a thing we should compromise on in the last week
Give me something spicier
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I don't believe that I have.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Because I am so down for that this game.
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Have I expressed my townread on Manders? Because that's a thing, too.
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