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Real talk, zomg, what do you make of Azrael so far?
To be very blunt I like his posting style in this game, perhaps even a little too much. its on that TSTBS line lol.
I would have loved to keep a vote on him but i didnt want a possible quick mislynch to throw us off tempo
He definitely knows how to stir people up in a way that's much more fun than outright attacks. So if he's TSTBS, why would you prefer to keep a vote on him, wouldn't that make you think he's not our assassin?
Wait, are you guys actually voting me because i think the dude is the assassin?
5 outta 6 of us know who the king is not (6 if the assassin says they are the king.)
Why claim king? You can gauruntee claiming king would secure the assassin not killing you right away, because an assasin wouldn't be so hasty. He would have to blend in. So claiming king [king or not] can gain trust that they are trying to throw off the trail.
I am weary of these people because a good assassin would think of that sort of stuff. So it can still be a valid option.
That is a reason why i want to lynch him.
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In general I think quick wagons are super scummy, because hiding behind "oops that's a lynch" is just way too easy, and cutting off discussion prematurely is a terrible idea.
That being said, I don't feel like Azrael is the assassin, even considering that no one would believe a king claim this early in the game.
In general I think quick wagons are super scummy, because hiding behind "oops that's a lynch" is just way too easy, and cutting off discussion prematurely is a terrible idea.
That being said, I don't feel like Azrael is the assassin, even considering that no one would believe a king claim this early in the game.
You do make a good point, so why do you think is he doing it?
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I touched on this earlier, but his antics have certainly made a splash for getting people talking and interacting, I don't think scum would have come on so strong.
I touched on this earlier, but his antics have certainly made a splash for getting people talking and interacting, I don't think scum would have come on so strong.
True. I did the same thing in my last game and was mislynched quickly.
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In general I think quick wagons are super scummy, because hiding behind "oops that's a lynch" is just way too easy, and cutting off discussion prematurely is a terrible idea.
That being said, I don't feel like Azrael is the assassin, even considering that no one would believe a king claim this early in the game.
Did you read the set up thread where it had discussion on the optimal way to play? Check the Mafia Thread near the top of the main mafia page...
Quick lynches are the best way for town to play this game.
In general I think quick wagons are super scummy, because hiding behind "oops that's a lynch" is just way too easy, and cutting off discussion prematurely is a terrible idea.
That being said, I don't feel like Azrael is the assassin, even considering that no one would believe a king claim this early in the game.
Did you read the set up thread where it had discussion on the optimal way to play? Check the Mafia Thread near the top of the main mafia page...
Quick lynches are the best way for town to play this game.
I did read it, and the math was quoted at about 56% town win that way, which sounds both unfun and not actually the best way to win. I'd rather play the game and feel like I have a good shot at winning then break the setup for a mild statistical advantage.
Wait, are you guys actually voting me because i think the dude is the assassin?
5 outta 6 of us know who the king is not (6 if the assassin says they are the king.)
Why claim king? You can gauruntee claiming king would secure the assassin not killing you right away, because an assasin wouldn't be so hasty. He would have to blend in. So claiming king [king or not] can gain trust that they are trying to throw off the trail.
I am weary of these people because a good assassin would think of that sort of stuff. So it can still be a valid option.
That is a reason why i want to lynch him.
I'm not certain I follow the logic here, but I think it has to do with some sicilian dude called Vizzini drinking wine. Also not sure I like the way you're assuming the logic of the assassin in having to wait. If the assassin knows who they ought to shoot, they just do it, no? No need to wait.
Wait, are you guys actually voting me because i think the dude is the assassin?
5 outta 6 of us know who the king is not (6 if the assassin says they are the king.)
Why claim king? You can gauruntee claiming king would secure the assassin not killing you right away, because an assasin wouldn't be so hasty. He would have to blend in. So claiming king [king or not] can gain trust that they are trying to throw off the trail.
I am weary of these people because a good assassin would think of that sort of stuff. So it can still be a valid option.
That is a reason why i want to lynch him.
I'm not certain I follow the logic here, but I think it has to do with some sicilian dude called Vizzini drinking wine. Also not sure I like the way you're assuming the logic of the assassin in having to wait. If the assassin knows who they ought to shoot, they just do it, no? No need to wait.
True. I did the same thing in my last game and was mislynched quickly.
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Well, that was quick. *eyebrow*
Wait what?
I agree with someone and you raise an eyebrow?
I just see how the assassin can claim king.
The assassin will be seen as "distracting the assassin" ergo people will think he is a gaurd pretending to be town. He will bank on that.
Then, by using the time of being not lynched figure out who people stray away from in certain lynches. By poe, you can find the king from there.
Everyone in the game knows he isn't the real king, but they can't lynch him because it could actually thrownoff the "assassin".
That conflict of "is he actually a guard or is he the assiassin" can be an absolute playground for scum biding their time until
They figure out who the real king is.
I just overthink man,
Seriously, read my games. That's how i roll.
Jesus, i just reconvinced myself to vote you.
Just becauae you don't understand my logic, doesn't mean i am scum, means you need to think about your strategy better.
I thought of it before the game started, and saw it better for the assassin than a gaurd. Lynch you out of curiousity i say. It's a good start.
Look at the assassin claiming king logic so far. It's working. Nobody doubts your towniness but me. Also, you posted so much that i think you don't sit and analyze, just go and post and fix later.
So i will sit back and keep my vote on you and wait for other people to chime in.
I will monitor you. See what your intentions are. I will maticulously read your actions and when i am certain you are not the assassin, i will remove my vote.
Until then.
vote az
You can disagree all you want. But this is what i believe.
The problem with you hating how i think the assassin waits, is you assume the assassin knows immediatley who he wants to shoot.
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@Ophidia
You realize that that is just OMGUS and a scummy way to vote someone right? So far you've mostly been in the background kind of following, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the gamestate, give me your top 2 reads and why?
@Ophidia
You realize that that is just OMGUS and a scummy way to vote someone right? So far you've mostly been in the background kind of following, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the gamestate, give me your top 2 reads and why?
I like you.
You can join my makeshift guardpost made of cardboard.
It's a bit cozy, but we have pizza!
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Shadowlancer, I feel like Azrael is either the assassin, or trying to distract the assassin. I would see him as more as a nuisance, though, since the assassin likely knows that he is a guard, and wont kill him anyways.
Rodemy is actually the one makings sense here, and I can trust him to not be scum.
You've said the exact same one liner for me, Rodemy, and Ophidia, how about a read with reasons instead of begging for people to sheep you? Give me something to work with.
The assassin will be seen as "distracting the assassin" ergo people will think he is a gaurd pretending to be town. He will bank on that.
Then, by using the time of being not lynched figure out who people stray away from in certain lynches. By poe, you can find the king from there.
Everyone in the game knows he isn't the real king, but they can't lynch him because it could actually thrownoff the "assassin".
That conflict of "is he actually a guard or is he the assiassin" can be an absolute playground for scum biding their time until
They figure out who the real king is.
I just overthink man,
Seriously, read my games. That's how i roll.
Jesus, i just reconvinced myself to vote you.
Just becauae you don't understand my logic, doesn't mean i am scum, means you need to think about your strategy better.
I thought of it before the game started, and saw it better for the assassin than a gaurd. Lynch you out of curiousity i say. It's a good start.
Look at the assassin claiming king logic so far. It's working. Nobody doubts your towniness but me. Also, you posted so much that i think you don't sit and analyze, just go and post and fix later.
So i will sit back and keep my vote on you and wait for other people to chime in.
I will monitor you. See what your intentions are. I will maticulously read your actions and when i am certain you are not the assassin, i will remove my vote.
Until then.
vote az
You can disagree all you want. But this is what i believe.
The problem with you hating how i think the assassin waits, is you assume the assassin knows immediatley who he wants to shoot.
Oh, Rodemy. Ever heard of the mafia concept called WIFOM, aka wine in front of me? You're Vizzini from the princess bride, and you're doing it to yourself, in the most classic way imaginable.
My actions can be framed any which way you please, as either town or scum. The question is, which explanation fits better - if any? And in this particular case, I think Hunt is probably the only player in the game familiar enough with my playstyle to attest that I start off pretty much every game this way. As scum, because I have to match my townie playstyle, and as town, because this is the best way to get information, provoke reactions, and get the scum to trip up and reveal themselves. Ala Ophidia.
It's true. This is Az. It does indeed change after he has info to analyze. But to start... he pokes holes in your mind and then does weird unmentionable things to them, and then you lose focus on what you're doing and BOOM... he's got some info on you.
Kind of like how Ophidia is the assassassin.
Kill it with fire... or water... or whatever element you'd like. Just kill it.
Also, I'm sorry I stole the joke, Az. You can have it back now, I'm done with it.
Hurray, Rodemy, I was certain Az was guard because of his comment about guard jobs
Az: I really love your early game play, that was insanely fun.
That was a really fun game guys.
Kirby arrived at the castle to find the guards already speculating about who the assassin was.
It seemed someone had informed Dedede of his plans.
Oh well, nothing to be done. Just figure out who is who...
Could it be this Waddle Dee, strutting about regally?
Or that broomhatter, sweeping the peacefully snoring Noddy?
Oh man, that Waddle Doo just blew up a tapestry.
Maybe it's that giant penguin sitting in a bean bag chair.
Nah, it's the Waddle Dee for sure.
BANG
And that's the game, folks.
I may try to run this setup again. It's so simple and cool.
But it must be very stressful to get one of the two unique roles.
Hurray, Rodemy, I was certain Az was guard because of his comment about guard jobs
Az: I really love your early game play, that was insanely fun.
That was a really fun game guys.
@Ophidia, I honestly voted to lynch you because I thought you were a guard that was buddying Rodemy too much.
Spot on, the "impeccable" comment was a smoking gun.
EDIT: Also, there's literally zero games on the Micro list still, so if you want to refire something Tom, there's literally no one who can stop you. *evil laughter*
I knew i wasn't being completely sane. So when he called my logic impeccable, i thought he was just very careless town.
Az, claiming king was a good idea, i feel our banter back and forth really confused ophi.
However, tbh i did think you were the assassin. It's the fact that everyone (but apparently the assassin) knew you werent the king.
I would have claimed king as the assassin and gone from there. It secures that nobody will vote for you, in hopes to make the assassin think that maybe you are the king "hiding" in plain sight.
It is pro town in a way, but the assassin could totally use it to his advantage if used right.
Ophi, why did you kill az?
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He definitely knows how to stir people up in a way that's much more fun than outright attacks. So if he's TSTBS, why would you prefer to keep a vote on him, wouldn't that make you think he's not our assassin?
Someone like...you? So I take it you don't agree with Zomg and actually think he's scum you? You jumped on a RVS wagon awfully quick.
This is my second game.
"Scum you" should have just been "scummy", I really should proofread for stupid autocorrect.
5 outta 6 of us know who the king is not (6 if the assassin says they are the king.)
Why claim king? You can gauruntee claiming king would secure the assassin not killing you right away, because an assasin wouldn't be so hasty. He would have to blend in. So claiming king [king or not] can gain trust that they are trying to throw off the trail.
I am weary of these people because a good assassin would think of that sort of stuff. So it can still be a valid option.
That is a reason why i want to lynch him.
That being said, I don't feel like Azrael is the assassin, even considering that no one would believe a king claim this early in the game.
You do make a good point, so why do you think is he doing it?
True. I did the same thing in my last game and was mislynched quickly.
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Quick lynches are the best way for town to play this game.
Never played before.
Iso_II was a favorite pen name of mine.
Vote Ophidia
Damn you for having more played games than me!
I did read it, and the math was quoted at about 56% town win that way, which sounds both unfun and not actually the best way to win. I'd rather play the game and feel like I have a good shot at winning then break the setup for a mild statistical advantage.
I'm not certain I follow the logic here, but I think it has to do with some sicilian dude called Vizzini drinking wine. Also not sure I like the way you're assuming the logic of the assassin in having to wait. If the assassin knows who they ought to shoot, they just do it, no? No need to wait.
Well, that was quick. *eyebrow*
Wait what?
I agree with someone and you raise an eyebrow?
I just see how the assassin can claim king.
The assassin will be seen as "distracting the assassin" ergo people will think he is a gaurd pretending to be town. He will bank on that.
Then, by using the time of being not lynched figure out who people stray away from in certain lynches. By poe, you can find the king from there.
Everyone in the game knows he isn't the real king, but they can't lynch him because it could actually thrownoff the "assassin".
That conflict of "is he actually a guard or is he the assiassin" can be an absolute playground for scum biding their time until
They figure out who the real king is.
I just overthink man,
Seriously, read my games. That's how i roll.
Jesus, i just reconvinced myself to vote you.
Just becauae you don't understand my logic, doesn't mean i am scum, means you need to think about your strategy better.
I thought of it before the game started, and saw it better for the assassin than a gaurd. Lynch you out of curiousity i say. It's a good start.
Look at the assassin claiming king logic so far. It's working. Nobody doubts your towniness but me. Also, you posted so much that i think you don't sit and analyze, just go and post and fix later.
So i will sit back and keep my vote on you and wait for other people to chime in.
I will monitor you. See what your intentions are. I will maticulously read your actions and when i am certain you are not the assassin, i will remove my vote.
Until then.
vote az
You can disagree all you want. But this is what i believe.
The problem with you hating how i think the assassin waits, is you assume the assassin knows immediatley who he wants to shoot.
Vote Azrael for voting me
You realize that that is just OMGUS and a scummy way to vote someone right? So far you've mostly been in the background kind of following, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the gamestate, give me your top 2 reads and why?
There are no missing posts, im not sure what you're seeing.
I like you.
You can join my makeshift guardpost made of cardboard.
It's a bit cozy, but we have pizza!
Rodemy is actually the one makings sense here, and I can trust him to not be scum.
Kill this guy, for reals.
You've said the exact same one liner for me, Rodemy, and Ophidia, how about a read with reasons instead of begging for people to sheep you? Give me something to work with.
Oh, Rodemy. Ever heard of the mafia concept called WIFOM, aka wine in front of me? You're Vizzini from the princess bride, and you're doing it to yourself, in the most classic way imaginable.
My actions can be framed any which way you please, as either town or scum. The question is, which explanation fits better - if any? And in this particular case, I think Hunt is probably the only player in the game familiar enough with my playstyle to attest that I start off pretty much every game this way. As scum, because I have to match my townie playstyle, and as town, because this is the best way to get information, provoke reactions, and get the scum to trip up and reveal themselves. Ala Ophidia.
Town
Az
zomgarcwind
shadowlancer
huntzilla
rodemy
Scum
this way towards ophidia
keep going
keep going
ophidia
i hate you for that post because scrolling on mobile is a pain. Nevertheless I actually laughed at "This way to Ophidia", thank you for that.
Kind of like how Ophidia is the assassassin.
Kill it with fire... or water... or whatever element you'd like. Just kill it.
Also, I'm sorry I stole the joke, Az. You can have it back now, I'm done with it.
Vote Ophidia
ophidia (3) - huntzilla, azrael, shadowlancerx
azrael (2) - rodemy, ophidia
rodemy (1) - zomgarcwind
With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch.
They were:
Kirby, assassin.
@Ophilia - you have 24 hours to submit your kill to me via response to your role PM.
Feel free to do so sooner.
GG everyone.
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I got two people who i think are town saying go for him, and i won't sway the vote towards az today... sooo.
Ophdia. You are the weakest link, goodbye.
He was:
Waddle Dee, a guard.
King Dedede, AKA Rodemy has survived an attempt on his life.
King/Guards Victory!
Az: I really love your early game play, that was insanely fun.
That was a really fun game guys.
It seemed someone had informed Dedede of his plans.
Oh well, nothing to be done. Just figure out who is who...
Could it be this Waddle Dee, strutting about regally?
Or that broomhatter, sweeping the peacefully snoring Noddy?
Oh man, that Waddle Doo just blew up a tapestry.
Maybe it's that giant penguin sitting in a bean bag chair.
Nah, it's the Waddle Dee for sure.
BANG
And that's the game, folks.
I may try to run this setup again. It's so simple and cool.
But it must be very stressful to get one of the two unique roles.
Thanks : )
Spot on, the "impeccable" comment was a smoking gun.
EDIT: Also, there's literally zero games on the Micro list still, so if you want to refire something Tom, there's literally no one who can stop you. *evil laughter*
I knew i wasn't being completely sane. So when he called my logic impeccable, i thought he was just very careless town.
Az, claiming king was a good idea, i feel our banter back and forth really confused ophi.
However, tbh i did think you were the assassin. It's the fact that everyone (but apparently the assassin) knew you werent the king.
I would have claimed king as the assassin and gone from there. It secures that nobody will vote for you, in hopes to make the assassin think that maybe you are the king "hiding" in plain sight.
It is pro town in a way, but the assassin could totally use it to his advantage if used right.
Ophi, why did you kill az?
You are second on the list, btw, but Az really helped town win here.