Mindreaver dead and town. Not surprised. Only one kill last Night, so maybe col_mongoose tried to shoot someone and it got reflected...
Most likely suspect for that is actually DoTA, since his reads were scum!TS and scum!DoTA.
Currently rereading. Have a few questions.
@Shockwave07:
Yeah, that's my bad, I copied from the players not-voting in the vote count before that.
Also, could I get a reads list from you?
@CitricBase:
Why'd you throw a "loose" Mindreaver scum read into the thread before the lynch scene?
Let me put it this way while I am still reading things.
Wheat is an exceptionally good player. There is a reason I kept him under my revive for Ace Attorney. This game he feels very weak, and almost unsure of himself, like where he deferred to Tom on the H_T thing.
Every time I feel like I understand where Wheat is this game he seems to take large turns from where I felt he was building up to.
I want to agree with everyone and say he is town, but something is sitting in my gut and I can't place my finger on it yet.
i hear cats are very hard to kill. dont want to waste my shots man.
i have a fairly strong townread of brinatoo, but its a bit OOG and gross. im secretly hoping to never have to share it.
was i not vocal about TS?
what else would you like my thoughts on?
i didnt actually do any rereading overnight. just finished up the mime game, played some turbos, and a bunch of modo.
so theyre all the same as they were yesterday.
tbh, i still dont really get what you think of people mostly. me especially.
like, you vigged me in the game that i thought was the towniest ive ever been/cared the most.
so, idk. maybe you should look at the opinions ive presented instead of the way im going about presenting them?
you seem to be coming around on most of them.
I was playing around with the idea that Mindreaver was scum and wanted to see how throwing it out there before Day end would affect things at all. Definitely did not expect him to turn up dead toDay and what
@Tomsloger:
What's your read on DoTA? You said you were pretty sure he was scum during D1 and he's not said much since then. His votes are not inspiring much confidence; he's basically been hanging out as the only vote on town players.
@silvercrys
Dota is more likely scum with TS flipping town. i think i sorta forgot about him when i didnt think that would happen.
but ive got some more info on scumdota now, so ill reread a bit.
but it is noteworthy that shockwave brought that back up
its fairly unlikely that they are scum together, as scumshock would know that ts wasnt going to flip scum and probably wouldnt remind me that townts means scumdota
and i ~think id rather lynch shock, pending taking another look
@DV
i dont find me boring, but its definitely harder to be rad with short phases.
@silvercrys
Dota is more likely scum with TS flipping town. i think i sorta forgot about him when i didnt think that would happen.
but ive got some more info on scumdota now, so ill reread a bit.
but it is noteworthy that shockwave brought that back up
its fairly unlikely that they are scum together, as scumshock would know that ts wasnt going to flip scum and probably wouldnt remind me that townts means scumdota
and i ~think id rather lynch shock, pending taking another look
@DV
i dont find me boring, but its definitely harder to be rad with short phases.
IDK even how to read Dota mate.
Please teach me.
I don't know how to take someone with like 10 posts and get any info on it.
Actually, about that Shock -> DoTA//TS thing... He said that you said DoTA was scum going after town!TS, but I couldn't find where DoTA went after TS at all. In either of their isos.
So then I looked at your iso, and what you actually said was this:
towndota is inquisitive, overwhelmed, and ready to argue. i love towndota.
this dota is just looking for things to pounce on. hes throwing shade. hes been vla, but is somehow fully confident. he knows tappingstones is town. hes saying things for how they look, not how they help him figure things out.
towndota this aint.
It's probably not important, but it's another curious thing atop the mountain of curious things Shockwave has said this game.
I'll just wait for your reread. Like D_V, I don't trust myself to get a good read on someone with like ten posts of content.
Welcome Zinger.
Mindreaver dead and town. Not surprised. Only one kill last Night, so maybe col_mongoose tried to shoot someone and it got reflected...
Most likely suspect for that is actually DoTA, since his reads were scum!TS and scum!DoTA.
Fix who you are talking about, that doesn't make a lick of sense. Also, I seriously doubt col_mon even shot anyone based on the flavor and not to mention that I was redirected too that Night. There's a chance, should a SK/neutralkiller exist, that they both targeted Mind last Night. There's also other stuff that could have happened like protection/untargetable etc. I've also got reasons to believe the former that I'll get to once everyone fills in.
unexpectedly, i feel ok about dota now.
we caught him super quick in WYBMN, and im not seeing much similarity.
he was very appeasing, quick to offer his opinions that didnt really need to be shared.
now, to be fair, that game was all in qts. so he couldnt just put his reasoning with his vote.
but voting silver jokingly is ok
and actually saying his mongoose vote was for "voting for the sake of voting and just needed a reason that would look legit." makes me pretty sure that wasnt what he was doing.
i still dont love that he jumped to defend tapping twice for acting the same as in classic. the timing of that second one was weird, as tapping had very much changed his behavior since the first time.
but im not really sure what to make of that.
we definitely need some more from him, and im not actually gonna call him town. but as of now, lets just lynch shockwave.
Welcome Zinger.
Mindreaver dead and town. Not surprised. Only one kill last Night, so maybe col_mongoose tried to shoot someone and it got reflected...
Most likely suspect for that is actually DoTA, since his reads were scum!TS and scum!DoTA.
Fix who you are talking about, that doesn't make a lick of sense. Also, I seriously doubt col_mon even shot anyone based on the flavor and not to mention that I was redirected too that Night. There's a chance, should a SK/neutralkiller exist, that they both targeted Mind last Night. There's also other stuff that could have happened like protection/untargetable etc. I've also got reasons to believe the former that I'll get to once everyone fills in.
Sorry for the pronoun confusion, col_mongoose's reads were scum!TS and scum!DoTA just before N1. So if he was going to take a shot at someone it seems reasonable he would've chosen DoTA.
@Brin, I took the scum reads as being from Goose although I do not see how that translates to believing Goose took a shot at DotA and died for it.
@Silver, early yesterday you felt there wasn't enough information to decipher the night actions. What specifically about a TS or MR flip is pointing you towards what you're saying today?
On another note, confirming kosa is Borg. Not confirming town alignment.
There was only one kill last Night, and there were two on N1. It's possible there was an SK and they were roleblocked or a kill was doctored, I suppose, though I've got a pretty good idea who it is if that's what happened. I was speculating more than anything else, but the idea that mongoose had his kill reflected back at himself was something Tom brought up, I think? and Mindreaver and I had discussed yesterDay that his phaser was stolen and someone shot him with it or it was reflected back at him or something like that.
I'm still of the opinion that DoTA is scum due to his/her D1 actions against Goose.
After TS flipping town and subsequently Mind getting killed, I'm inclined to look at people that were not as actively involved in the whole dispute centered around TS. Especially when an opportunity presented itself given that the mod was willing to mod kill TS's slot, I believe that served as an opportunity for scum to jump on. Shock decided to switch and vote for TS despite maintaining an unwillingness to vote TS earlier in the day (I don't recall off hand from the post I have in mind if he was town reading TS or not).
I still have my reservations about DV, but I'm not going to scum read him after what happened with the TS stuff. He's going to sit in the neutral area for the time being.
I'll have views on others as the day continues. Also, my pc issue is resolved.
Stop smearing KoD. It wasn't a jump on, I figured just get the Day over with. Also, I'm not sure if this is what the mod intended, but since he stuck a big "this person loses even if his team wins," sticker on it, I don't think players would be jumping to take it.
Better just kill the slot and move on as far as I cared.
Yeah, I'm inclined to ignore Shockwave and D_V's votes on TS. Brinatoo said he wanted TS lynched, but the other two were basically shrug lynches to keep the game moving. They could have let it go to a mod kill if they had wanted and the end result would have been the same.
In fact, it might be slightly +town of them to lynch him against their own wishes? It essentially just sped the game up by a day, and did nothing else.
I mean, there are reasons to scum read Shockwave, I just don't think that's a very good one.
Or, if not ignore, place little weight on them. I don't think there's anything alignment indicative about hammering a slot that was going to modkilled and force us to no-lynch anyway.
Yeah. I guess I just assumed there was no way a replacement would be found in 24 hours. Seemed silly to even try, like you said, and probably would have ended in a mod kill.
That's not a smear on. Coming from you specifically, it makes no sense to me that you'd show no sign of wanting to vote him (possibly due to thinking he's town) only to turn around and do so. It's not like you've done much to contribute in the way of scum hunting.
Yeah. I guess I just assumed there was no way a replacement would be found in 24 hours. Seemed silly to even try, like you said, and probably would have ended in a mod kill.
I had a replacement lined up, but didn't want to have someone replace in to immediately be lynched. TS's game loss was because of the extreme levels of toxicity his posts injected into the game; the infractions leading to that suspension were entirely for posts in this game. Repeatedly violating site rules is not how you win a game, and he should not be rewarded for that, regardless of how his alignment does at the end of the game.
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I think this might accidentally quote a post but I didn't mean to. Mobile sucks.
I moved yesterday and we don't have internet until tomorrow. I am not gonna read and post on mobile much.
That said I read the first 10 or so posts of the day. TS flipping town is unfortunate but he was being destructive regardless of alignment. I think there is info to be gained by looking at how people reacted to his lynch as it went forward. Off-hand, I remember disliking Shockwave's reactions in the context of TS flipping town but it likely doesn't end there.
I don't get how DV thinks I wasn't vocal about TS when half my posts were me saying TS was scum.
I'll return with more hopefully tomorrow. Not sure when during the day we'll get internet.
Now the awesome lesbian sex scene between Ro and my character will never take place. :'(
In other news, BAM, like an unwanted Cuma splat all over your face, I have entered the game (and maybe more than that). I usually carry with me a policy with which to tell no lies whilst playing Mafia, BUT, to really do this character justice I'll have to say **** that. And **** a few other things while I'm at it.
So without further ado, who wants to get down and dirty?
I think this might accidentally quote a post but I didn't mean to. Mobile sucks.
I moved yesterday and we don't have internet until tomorrow. I am not gonna read and post on mobile much.
That said I read the first 10 or so posts of the day. TS flipping town is unfortunate but he was being destructive regardless of alignment. I think there is info to be gained by looking at how people reacted to his lynch as it went forward. Off-hand, I remember disliking Shockwave's reactions in the context of TS flipping town but it likely doesn't end there.
I don't get how DV thinks I wasn't vocal about TS when half my posts were me saying TS was scum.
I'll return with more hopefully tomorrow. Not sure when during the day we'll get internet.
Now the awesome lesbian sex scene between Ro and my character will never take place. :'(
In other news, BAM, like an unwanted Cuma splat all over your face, I have entered the game (and maybe more than that). I usually carry with me a policy with which to tell no lies whilst playing Mafia, BUT, to really do this character justice I'll have to say **** that. And **** a few other things while I'm at it.
So without further ado, who wants to get down and dirty?
Well, I must admit your delivery is much zestier than Necarg's. Unfortunately, we already know you're Lauren. We could use a little less spice and a little more meat, if you know what I mean.
As an aside, your sig reminded me of the WotC forums and made me a sad panda. I didn't even know there was a mafia community there...
Here's your catch-up:
D1 Fable claimed scum. There's been some discussion about whether we can assume he always meant to do that and was therefore trolling us from the very beginning or if he went off the deep end sometime around the time he fake claimed to put the spotlight on a "Borg Cult" that probably doesn't exist.
N1 Sir Chris the Eavesdropper (Quark) and col_mongoose the Vig-with-a-Phaser (Worf) died. Mongoose was a bit of a lurker and wasn't playing very strongly, so I don't think he was the mafia night kill target. Some people thought there was an SK, some were speculating that he shot someone who reflected the ability back at him or someone stole his phaser and shot him with it.
D2 there was a lot of arguing and poor sportsmanship all around, mostly centered around Half_Time though he wasn't really contributing to it. TappingStones blew up, received a forum suspension while he was being run up, then D_V and Shockwave hammered him to avoid someone having to replace in and getting immediately lynched.
N2 Mindreaver died, obviously. Because there was only one kill, I thought the second argument for Mongoose's death might have more weight but Brinatoo says he has a reason to suspect there is an SK or something and won't say why until more people post.
Both wagons are in my #1865 if you're into the wagon analysis. And if you decide to do a full read, I apologize in advance for my part in pages 28-30ish.
N1 Sir Chris the Eavesdropper (Quark) and col_mongoose the Vig-with-a-Phaser (Worf) died. Mongoose was a bit of a lurker and wasn't playing very strongly, so I don't think he was the mafia night kill target. Some people thought there was an SK, some were speculating that he shot someone who reflected the ability back at him or someone stole his phaser and shot him with it.
N2 Mindreaver died, obviously. Because there was only one kill, I thought the second argument for Mongoose's death might have more weight but Brinatoo says he has a reason to suspect there is an SK or something and won't say why until more people post.
Hey Silver, I don't remember who brought up the redirection or said he stole the phaser and shot him with it but the flavor doesn't indicate that at all.
col_mongoose was found dead in one of the Jeffries tubes next to an outer docking pylon, stabbed approximately 45 times. The holosecurity isn't quite sure, the station's EMH is offline, and Dr. Bashir is nowhere to be found (possibly because he's still in prison... or living in exile on Andoria... this timeline doesn't keep itself straight at ALL.) He was Worf, Town Vig-with-a-Phaser. Security notes that several dozen weapons were found on and around him, including two bat'leths, a mek'leth, two tik'leths, a rusty spork, and a kar'takin, but no phaser was among them. There was, however, a rather nice old Earth AK-47 complete with ten clips of ammunition, which would've been sold at auction by Quark, but...
I have no idea where to look for who brought it up but it could be a potential lead on who stole it. You should backtrack since you were aware of it.
Concerning the Mindreaver death, Fable's fish for latinum and Mind claiming a double effect on it D2-> I think there's a chance both potential anti-town sources felt threatened by that doubling effect and took him out for that. Or maybe the potential SK did something else/can't always NK, many theories. But being stabbed 45 times is psychotic and has me leaning flavor-wise a SK. Maybe it's the return of Annorax(read games 1 and 3, Annorax loves to have himself in the universe)
Hey Kosa, can you stop coasting and get to doing your job of scumhunting hint-hint nudge-nudge.
Hmm. You're right. Unfortunately, I think it was Mindreaver who brought it up, which would be a dead end, though Tom brought it up after we talked about it.
There's also the possibility that the flavor of the kills doesn't match how they died mechanically.
When I get back to my computer I'll backtrack and see who said what exactly. Maybe there's a lead I missed.
As far as night action speculation, I think it's safer to assume that Sir Chris was the mafia kill because he was a fairly wide townread and col_mongoose may have been vigged or killed by the SK (if there is one). Also, while I saw the phaser thing earlier, it's been edited now so I'm not sure if it's been retconned or if it's a red herring.
I considered that SC was the mafia kill. Because I didn't really feel strongly about Col_Mongoose either way, and if that was the mafia kill, it was a strange one. I just figured stabbed 45 times was excessive for a single SK.
Actually, maybe I'm crazy. The phaser thing is still there, but I could have sworn it got edited out this morning... oh well.
Maybe someone shot him with his own phaser? That's what the flavor seems to be breadcrumbing. Regardless, I don't think we have enough info to make sense of the night actions last Night.
This was me and Mind. He brought up the missing phaser, but the idea someone else stole it and shot him with it was apparently my idea. There's also this a bit later, though.
Correct me if I'm wrong but goose died lurker town vig, ja? Since we can reason he probably didn't kill himself and there seems no apparent reason to assume he killed SC, what's to stop us from assuming you didn't kill goose to enact such a plan only to have the misfortune of killing the actual vig?
I admittedly jumped to that conclusion based solely on the fact that the phaser was missing. It made more sense to me that someone took his vig shot and used it on him or something like that. But like Tom said all we really know is that someone took his phaser and he died, and not necessarily in that order.
Mindreaver dead and town. Not surprised. Only one kill last Night, so maybe col_mongoose tried to shoot someone and it got reflected...
Most likely suspect for that is actually DoTA, since his reads were scum!TS and scum!DoTA.
Currently rereading. Have a few questions.
@Shockwave07:
Yeah, that's my bad, I copied from the players not-voting in the vote count before that.
Also, could I get a reads list from you?
@CitricBase:
Why'd you throw a "loose" Mindreaver scum read into the thread before the lynch scene?
@Wheat_Grinder:
Would you mind elaborating?
@D_V:
Assuming you still think H_T is scum, who are his likely partners?
second:
i will happily join any wagon outside of my towncircle, but i think shock is the most likely scum RN.
so
vote shockwave
carry on.
Why did you go for the Cynth kill last night Tom?
@ Silver I'm not certain yet. The fact that there was only one kill last night is giving me pause over what I thought I understood of this game.
Thoughts from our new player.
Thoughts from Tom.
Cynth on the TS lynch.
Wheat on the TS lynch.
In my opinion both Wheat and Cynth and Tom got themselves onto that wagon without really being vocal at all about it.
I'm not certain where I feel about HT anymore.
Surprisingly enough Kosa and Silver are in my top Town list after a reread on this. Well silver has been there for a while.
What is everyone's thoughts on Brinatoo? Hasn't really stuck out at all to me.
i have a fairly strong townread of brinatoo, but its a bit OOG and gross. im secretly hoping to never have to share it.
was i not vocal about TS?
what else would you like my thoughts on?
i didnt actually do any rereading overnight. just finished up the mime game, played some turbos, and a bunch of modo.
so theyre all the same as they were yesterday.
If you were me what would you think about yourself?
tbh, i still dont really get what you think of people mostly. me especially.
like, you vigged me in the game that i thought was the towniest ive ever been/cared the most.
so, idk. maybe you should look at the opinions ive presented instead of the way im going about presenting them?
you seem to be coming around on most of them.
I was playing around with the idea that Mindreaver was scum and wanted to see how throwing it out there before Day end would affect things at all. Definitely did not expect him to turn up dead toDay and what
sure
here's a turbo from yesterday
(i am bad at turbos)
here is a more interesting one where i lived longer than 18 minutes
(no flips, open setup)
But here's the TS wagon for your consideration.
Half_Time (1): Mindreaver
TappingStones (9): Wheat_Grinder, Cythare, tomsloger, Half_Time, Silvercrys3467, KingofDominaria, Brinatoo, D_V, Shockwave07
D_V (1): Kosakosa
tomsloger (1): TappingStones
Not Voting (3): Killjoy, Necarg, CitricBase
And here's Fable's for comparison.
DoTArchon (2): KingofDominaria, col_mongoose
Kosakosa (2): Rhand, Brinatoo
col_mongoose (1): DoTArchon
Silvercrys3467 (1): tomsloger
TappingStones (1): Kosakosa
D_V (1): Half_Time
Not Voting (2): Killjoy, Shockwave07
@Tomsloger:
What's your read on DoTA? You said you were pretty sure he was scum during D1 and he's not said much since then. His votes are not inspiring much confidence; he's basically been hanging out as the only vote on town players.
Zzzz.
Why are you so boring on this site?
Dota is more likely scum with TS flipping town. i think i sorta forgot about him when i didnt think that would happen.
but ive got some more info on scumdota now, so ill reread a bit.
but it is noteworthy that shockwave brought that back up
its fairly unlikely that they are scum together, as scumshock would know that ts wasnt going to flip scum and probably wouldnt remind me that townts means scumdota
and i ~think id rather lynch shock, pending taking another look
@DV
i dont find me boring, but its definitely harder to be rad with short phases.
IDK even how to read Dota mate.
Please teach me.
I don't know how to take someone with like 10 posts and get any info on it.
So then I looked at your iso, and what you actually said was this:
It's probably not important, but it's another curious thing atop the mountain of curious things Shockwave has said this game.
I'll just wait for your reread. Like D_V, I don't trust myself to get a good read on someone with like ten posts of content.
we caught him super quick in WYBMN, and im not seeing much similarity.
he was very appeasing, quick to offer his opinions that didnt really need to be shared.
now, to be fair, that game was all in qts. so he couldnt just put his reasoning with his vote.
but voting silver jokingly is ok
and actually saying his mongoose vote was for "voting for the sake of voting and just needed a reason that would look legit." makes me pretty sure that wasnt what he was doing.
i still dont love that he jumped to defend tapping twice for acting the same as in classic. the timing of that second one was weird, as tapping had very much changed his behavior since the first time.
but im not really sure what to make of that.
we definitely need some more from him, and im not actually gonna call him town. but as of now, lets just lynch shockwave.
Link: #420,
@Silver, early yesterday you felt there wasn't enough information to decipher the night actions. What specifically about a TS or MR flip is pointing you towards what you're saying today?
On another note, confirming kosa is Borg. Not confirming town alignment.
but ive reconsidered
@silver i mean, his rolecard said vig with a phaser but there was no phaser.
seems like a pretty solid lead.
You got any sweet neutral games for me to read Tom?
and i was basically town in that one.
but i am very naturally neutral.
After TS flipping town and subsequently Mind getting killed, I'm inclined to look at people that were not as actively involved in the whole dispute centered around TS. Especially when an opportunity presented itself given that the mod was willing to mod kill TS's slot, I believe that served as an opportunity for scum to jump on. Shock decided to switch and vote for TS despite maintaining an unwillingness to vote TS earlier in the day (I don't recall off hand from the post I have in mind if he was town reading TS or not).
I still have my reservations about DV, but I'm not going to scum read him after what happened with the TS stuff. He's going to sit in the neutral area for the time being.
I'll have views on others as the day continues. Also, my pc issue is resolved.
Better just kill the slot and move on as far as I cared.
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In fact, it might be slightly +town of them to lynch him against their own wishes? It essentially just sped the game up by a day, and did nothing else.
I mean, there are reasons to scum read Shockwave, I just don't think that's a very good one.
I didn't want someone to come into a game and then have them just be lynched seemed silly to me.
I had a replacement lined up, but didn't want to have someone replace in to immediately be lynched. TS's game loss was because of the extreme levels of toxicity his posts injected into the game; the infractions leading to that suspension were entirely for posts in this game. Repeatedly violating site rules is not how you win a game, and he should not be rewarded for that, regardless of how his alignment does at the end of the game.
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I moved yesterday and we don't have internet until tomorrow. I am not gonna read and post on mobile much.
That said I read the first 10 or so posts of the day. TS flipping town is unfortunate but he was being destructive regardless of alignment. I think there is info to be gained by looking at how people reacted to his lynch as it went forward. Off-hand, I remember disliking Shockwave's reactions in the context of TS flipping town but it likely doesn't end there.
I don't get how DV thinks I wasn't vocal about TS when half my posts were me saying TS was scum.
I'll return with more hopefully tomorrow. Not sure when during the day we'll get internet.
Now the awesome lesbian sex scene between Ro and my character will never take place. :'(
In other news, BAM, like an unwanted Cuma splat all over your face, I have entered the game (and maybe more than that). I usually carry with me a policy with which to tell no lies whilst playing Mafia, BUT, to really do this character justice I'll have to say **** that. And **** a few other things while I'm at it.
So without further ado, who wants to get down and dirty?
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Cool wheat might actually be town.
That's really not saying much though
As an aside, your sig reminded me of the WotC forums and made me a sad panda. I didn't even know there was a mafia community there...
Here's your catch-up:
D1 Fable claimed scum. There's been some discussion about whether we can assume he always meant to do that and was therefore trolling us from the very beginning or if he went off the deep end sometime around the time he fake claimed to put the spotlight on a "Borg Cult" that probably doesn't exist.
N1 Sir Chris the Eavesdropper (Quark) and col_mongoose the Vig-with-a-Phaser (Worf) died. Mongoose was a bit of a lurker and wasn't playing very strongly, so I don't think he was the mafia night kill target. Some people thought there was an SK, some were speculating that he shot someone who reflected the ability back at him or someone stole his phaser and shot him with it.
D2 there was a lot of arguing and poor sportsmanship all around, mostly centered around Half_Time though he wasn't really contributing to it. TappingStones blew up, received a forum suspension while he was being run up, then D_V and Shockwave hammered him to avoid someone having to replace in and getting immediately lynched.
N2 Mindreaver died, obviously. Because there was only one kill, I thought the second argument for Mongoose's death might have more weight but Brinatoo says he has a reason to suspect there is an SK or something and won't say why until more people post.
Both wagons are in my #1865 if you're into the wagon analysis. And if you decide to do a full read, I apologize in advance for my part in pages 28-30ish.
Concerning the Mindreaver death, Fable's fish for latinum and Mind claiming a double effect on it D2-> I think there's a chance both potential anti-town sources felt threatened by that doubling effect and took him out for that. Or maybe the potential SK did something else/can't always NK, many theories. But being stabbed 45 times is psychotic and has me leaning flavor-wise a SK. Maybe it's the return of Annorax(read games 1 and 3, Annorax loves to have himself in the universe)
Hey Kosa, can you stop coasting and get to doing your job of scumhunting hint-hint nudge-nudge.
List of Silence:
Cythare
Killjoy
DoTArchon
There's also the possibility that the flavor of the kills doesn't match how they died mechanically.
When I get back to my computer I'll backtrack and see who said what exactly. Maybe there's a lead I missed.
Going to see new Star Trek movie, back later.
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Cythare is in VLA status for IRL reasons. Prods for Killjoy and DotA will go out tomorrow morning.
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