For thousands of years, the Spires have stood, the counsel of elders watching over the small colony--the only thing that survived the drastic flood years ago. But, now, a dark shadow has come over the Spires--the one they speak in legends--the one who will be apart the downfall of the Spire's society. And, so, the Counsel of Elders have met to decipher the mystery.
0. Obey all site rules. Do not violate the spirit of the game.
1. Each day phase will last fourteen days.
2. I will prod a player after fourty-eight hours without posting. If a player accumulates three prods in a game, I will replace that player.
3. Voting is to be done in either bold text. I will not count any attempts to vote that is not in that format. Unvotes are not required.
4. A lynch is achieved when half of the current votes, rounded down plus one have voted for a player. Once that event has happened, all votes are locked and the day will end.
5. If a deadline is achieved and a player has not achieved the majority for lynching, then a no lynch will occur.
7. Once you are dead, you are dead. Please do not post anymore. If you were replaced out for whatever reason, please do not post in thread.
8. You may not discuss the game outside this thread with other players involved in the game unless your role specifically says so. If you can, you may only discuss at quicktopic listed in your PM.
9. Anyone who is not playing but wishes to commentate on the game may PM for access to a spectator thread. Any player who has died will be given access to the spectator thread.
10. I am not responsible for your mistakes. If you screw up a tag or something, I will not edit it for you. If you have the ability to edit posts, please do not do so.
11. Avatars, titles, and signatures are out-of-game areas.
13. Please do not quote out-of-thread communications. Content from out of game influences may be used(ie metagaming), but specific timestamps and other such things are semi-off-limits.
14. Players may only use one active ability per phase.
15. Although somewhat divine, I am prone to mistakes. If I miss anything, please PM me and I will resolve the issue as best as possible.
16. Bolded Purple is my color, it would serve you well not to use it.
18. I reserve the right to modkill any players who either intentionally or unintentionally abuse the replacement system to effect the gamestate.
19. Nobody likes a rules lawyer.
Daytalk is enabled for all factions by default.
Upon death, redacted Role PMs are revealed.
This game fits within the Mafiascum Normal Game Guidelines.
[b]Member of Russian Execution Squad - Town Vanilla[/b] "Shut up! Go back to practice!"
As a child, you always wanted to join the underworld when you became old enough. Sadly, the local mafia rejected your application due to your poor aiming skills. You know what you do in Mother Russia in situations like this? Take your revenge!
[b]Нет![/b] Since you want to get rid of the local мафия, you should be prepared to voice out your opinions. This it not Russia, you are allowed to do so. (You have a vote. You are allowed to vote.
[b]4. Cyan, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b]
[b]5. Antny225, , Minister of Silly Walks/Town Mason[/b]Blindfaeth
[b]6. Jobie, A member of the Hell's Grannies/Mafia Goon[/b]Burning_Earth2
[b]11.Wheat_Grider, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b]
[b]13. SirChris, the Spanish Inquisition/Mafia 3-Shot Vigilante[/b]
[b]15. 7hawk77, , Minister of Silly Walks/Town Mason[/b]
[b]ZeDorkSlippeur, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b] was lynched day one.
[b]14. huntzilla, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b] was killed night one.
[b]3. KamikazeArchon, A member of the Hell's Grannies/Mafia Goon[/b] was lynched day two.
[b]12. imabusinessman Mr. Gumbo's Brain Specialist(or something like that)/Town Macho Doctor[/b] was killed night two.[/b]
[b]16. killjoy, Minister of Silly Walks/Town Mason[/b] was killed night two.
[b]8. hansanator, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b] was lynched day three.
[b]10. Seppel, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b] was killed night three.
[b]9. Rhand, , Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b]Roowastaken was lynched day four.
[b]2. Plowshares, Mr. Gumbo's Brain Specialist(or something like that)/Town Macho Doctor[/b] was killed night four.
[b]7. Cantripmancer, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b] was lynched day five.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang) 2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer 2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator) 2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia 2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational 2015 - Best Town Player 2015 - Best Mafia Player 2015 - Best Overall Player
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Speaking of which, nati was a co-mod for a game over there so I suspect we'll have multiple protective roles with restrictions like macho or x-shot. We'll also have an investigation role who's probably macho.in order to prevent "follow the cop". Town will probably have at least one role that typically goes to mafia like rolecop, roleblocker, or encryptor. If anyone claims bomb they need to be power lunched with great speed and prejudice.
Speaking of which, nati was a co-mod for a game over there so I suspect we'll have multiple protective roles with restrictions like macho or x-shot. We'll also have an investigation role who's probably macho.in order to prevent "follow the cop". Town will probably have at least one role that typically goes to mafia like rolecop, roleblocker, or encryptor. If anyone claims bomb they need to be power lunched with great speed and prejudice.
What's "macho"? And "power lunching" = "wining and dining"?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
35 posts into the game and we have 2 real and competing wagons. And one of the people being wagon'ed is voting the other guy.
Vote IMAB
His vote on Hansanator is bad, given that it's a second vote piling on top of a first vote that was clearly not a serious one. Over-explanation of setup theory very early in the game. And lastly, he votes BE2 based on disagreeing with BE2 saying 'that tell is awful'. But we don't even know which tell BE2 is referring to. All in all, this feels like a surprisingly good wagon to be involved in, especially considering how early in the game we are.
The funny thing about that tell is that it is awful.
Because I know most common tells. This one is the 'voting people outside the game in RVS' tell, which is crap.
Identifies "RVS outside of the game" tell.
Opposess counterwagon.
BE2 is probably town and so might cantripmancer.
Cyan probably isn't though.
He misidenties my RVS as serious on hansanator. Then he call the set-up theory an "over explanation" when it's clearly not. Lastly he claims "we" can't identify the tell BE2 is referring to when myself, BE2 and cantripmancer all recognize it. Probably more people would have recognized it too but BE2 spilled the beans.
And I suspected what BE was being accused of as well. But I didn't presume to know and vote him over it, after he had already received multiple other votes in rapid succession.
Also, your reason for declaring BE2 now is superfluous. BE2 clearly already knew which tell was being referenced, that was what started this all. You are completely backpedaling here. Oh and OMGUSing me.
From what I can tell, you've exhibited virtually every scum tell possible. I wish it was always this easy.
Also, your reason for declaring BE2 now is superfluous.
Not really. Unlike you BE2 was being a helpful townie by explaining the tell to Kamikaze. Not like you who was all "I saw it but I didn't act on it OR say anything hur hur hur..."
Cyan is one of the best players in MTGS. If he does something that looks dumb for a townie, it's almost certainly a scum slip-up. That said, he's not being dumb here. imab's response is basically just "nuh-uh", and I'm pretty sure there's a misrep in there - Cyan didn't say imab's vote was bad because it was serious, he said imab's vote was bad because it was piling on after another RVS vote.
B_E, if you knew it was a scum tell, why did you do it?
imab, why does explaining the tell make B_E townie?
Cyan is one of the best players in MTGS. If he does something that looks dumb for a townie, it's almost certainly a scum slip-up. That said, he's not being dumb here. imab's response is basically just "nuh-uh", and I'm pretty sure there's a misrep in there - Cyan didn't say imab's vote was bad because it was serious, he said imab's vote was bad because it was piling on after another RVS vote.
B_E, if you knew it was a scum tell, why did you do it?
imab, why does explaining the tell make B_E townie?
So you think 2 votes in RVS is "piling on".
100% there's scum in Cyan/kamikaze.
BE2 is town for deliberately performing a tell knowing it would draw attention in addition to the other reasons highlighted.
Kamikaze why do you think a player as good as cyan has to resort to hyperbole like "your performing every tell imaginable"? Why can't he tell us what these tells are? Why is it that he's uncertain of the obvious tell BE2 performed but is so certain of the multitude of ambiguous tells I've supposedly engaged in?
His vote on Hansanator is bad, given that it's a second vote piling on top of a first vote that was clearly not a serious one. Over-explanation of setup theory very early in the game. And lastly, he votes BE2 based on disagreeing with BE2 saying 'that tell is awful'. But we don't even know which tell BE2 is referring to.
You are completely backpedaling here. Oh and OMGUSing me.
Those are obviously what he's referring to.
And I didn't say I think 2 votes is piling on, I was recounting what Cyan said. Again, that's quite obvious from what I wrote. You're misrepping everyone.
His vote on Hansanator is bad, given that it's a second vote piling on top of a first vote that was clearly not a serious one. Over-explanation of setup theory very early in the game. And lastly, he votes BE2 based on disagreeing with BE2 saying 'that tell is awful'. But we don't even know which tell BE2 is referring to.
You are completely backpedaling here. Oh and OMGUSing me.
Those are obviously what he's referring to.
And I didn't say I think 2 votes is piling on, I was recounting what Cyan said. Again, that's quite obvious from what I wrote. You're misrepping everyone.
unvote, vote imabusinessman
This just in: two scum found! See how Kami sloppily dodges questions to defend scumbuddy!
Caught up. Didn't really follow the vague discussion about tells. I don't trust imab as far as I can throw him. I liked plows disassociative slip comment and don't care for his responses this far, seems ingenuine. I trust BE2 even less. Why are you trying to dissuade two people that the other is likely town less than 50 posts in? Is it because you know they are since they aren't on your team? Even if not, we are getting valuable interactions so it seems like you're trying to slow things down.
vote BE2
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
Presented by: Natirasha, Bur
Reviewed by: Taredas, Iso, Prophylaxis, Generic, Cabd, zMuffinMan, FakeGod
0. Obey all site rules. Do not violate the spirit of the game.
1. Each day phase will last fourteen days.
2. I will prod a player after fourty-eight hours without posting. If a player accumulates three prods in a game, I will replace that player.
3. Voting is to be done in either bold text. I will not count any attempts to vote that is not in that format. Unvotes are not required.
4. A lynch is achieved when half of the current votes, rounded down plus one have voted for a player. Once that event has happened, all votes are locked and the day will end.
5. If a deadline is achieved and a player has not achieved the majority for lynching, then a no lynch will occur.
7. Once you are dead, you are dead. Please do not post anymore. If you were replaced out for whatever reason, please do not post in thread.
8. You may not discuss the game outside this thread with other players involved in the game unless your role specifically says so. If you can, you may only discuss at quicktopic listed in your PM.
9. Anyone who is not playing but wishes to commentate on the game may PM for access to a spectator thread. Any player who has died will be given access to the spectator thread.
10. I am not responsible for your mistakes. If you screw up a tag or something, I will not edit it for you. If you have the ability to edit posts, please do not do so.
11. Avatars, titles, and signatures are out-of-game areas.
13. Please do not quote out-of-thread communications. Content from out of game influences may be used(ie metagaming), but specific timestamps and other such things are semi-off-limits.
14. Players may only use one active ability per phase.
15. Although somewhat divine, I am prone to mistakes. If I miss anything, please PM me and I will resolve the issue as best as possible.
16. Bolded Purple is my color, it would serve you well not to use it.
18. I reserve the right to modkill any players who either intentionally or unintentionally abuse the replacement system to effect the gamestate.
19. Nobody likes a rules lawyer.
Upon death, redacted Role PMs are revealed.
This game fits within the Mafiascum Normal Game Guidelines.
[b]5. Antny225, , Minister of Silly Walks/Town Mason[/b]
Blindfaeth[b]6. Jobie, A member of the Hell's Grannies/Mafia Goon[/b]
Burning_Earth2[b]11.Wheat_Grider, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b]
[b]13. SirChris, the Spanish Inquisition/Mafia 3-Shot Vigilante[/b]
[b]15. 7hawk77, , Minister of Silly Walks/Town Mason[/b]
[b]14. huntzilla, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b] was killed night one.
[b]3. KamikazeArchon, A member of the Hell's Grannies/Mafia Goon[/b] was lynched day two.
[b]12. imabusinessman Mr. Gumbo's Brain Specialist(or something like that)/Town Macho Doctor[/b] was killed night two.[/b]
[b]16. killjoy, Minister of Silly Walks/Town Mason[/b] was killed night two.
[b]8. hansanator, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b] was lynched day three.
[b]10. Seppel, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b] was killed night three.
[b]9. Rhand, , Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b]
Roowastakenwas lynched day four.[b]2. Plowshares, Mr. Gumbo's Brain Specialist(or something like that)/Town Macho Doctor[/b] was killed night four.
[b]7. Cantripmancer, Member of the Russian Execution Squad/Vanilla Townie[/b] was lynched day five.
Either way, we're all gonna burn
Role PMs going out soon.----
Either way, we're all gonna burn
Either way, we're all gonna burn
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
A firm con!
Previous Mafia Experience:
Mafia aligned: 2/0 -100%
Town aligned: 4/3 - 57%
Outdated Mafia Stats
It is now day one!
Either way, we're all gonna burn
Previous Mafia Experience:
Mafia aligned: 2/0 -100%
Town aligned: 4/3 - 57%
Vote ZDS
Dat snake.
Vote Hansanator
Speaking of which, nati was a co-mod for a game over there so I suspect we'll have multiple protective roles with restrictions like macho or x-shot. We'll also have an investigation role who's probably macho.in order to prevent "follow the cop". Town will probably have at least one role that typically goes to mafia like rolecop, roleblocker, or encryptor. If anyone claims bomb they need to be power lunched with great speed and prejudice.
Vote Kami
Real reason...
serious vote...
I almost did this exact thing, but then I reconsidered.
Serious vote.
What stopped you Cantrip?
The funny thing about that tell is that it is awful.
It's not.
unvote
vote Burning Earth2
"we'll"
"We'll"
"Town"
Disassociative slip.
/Yawn
/StaplesButton
Modern
WBR Mardu Midrange
UR Storm
Commander
WBR Queen Marchesa Stax
WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Pillowfort
RRR Krenko, Mob Boss Chaos
Vote: Burning_Earth2
Vote IMAB
His vote on Hansanator is bad, given that it's a second vote piling on top of a first vote that was clearly not a serious one. Over-explanation of setup theory very early in the game. And lastly, he votes BE2 based on disagreeing with BE2 saying 'that tell is awful'. But we don't even know which tell BE2 is referring to. All in all, this feels like a surprisingly good wagon to be involved in, especially considering how early in the game we are.
The funny thing about that tell is that it is awful.
Because I know most common tells. This one is the 'voting people outside the game in RVS' tell, which is crap.
Identifies "RVS outside of the game" tell.
Opposess counterwagon.
BE2 is probably town and so might cantripmancer.
Cyan probably isn't though.
He misidenties my RVS as serious on hansanator. Then he call the set-up theory an "over explanation" when it's clearly not. Lastly he claims "we" can't identify the tell BE2 is referring to when myself, BE2 and cantripmancer all recognize it. Probably more people would have recognized it too but BE2 spilled the beans.
vote Cyan.
And I suspected what BE was being accused of as well. But I didn't presume to know and vote him over it, after he had already received multiple other votes in rapid succession.
Also, your reason for declaring BE2 now is superfluous. BE2 clearly already knew which tell was being referenced, that was what started this all. You are completely backpedaling here. Oh and OMGUSing me.
From what I can tell, you've exhibited virtually every scum tell possible. I wish it was always this easy.
Only scum would say that.
No you didn't. If you did you would have explained it to KamikazeArchon. Stop trying to hang with the cool kids.
Why not? Early game wagons can be useful.
Not really. Unlike you BE2 was being a helpful townie by explaining the tell to Kamikaze. Not like you who was all "I saw it but I didn't act on it OR say anything hur hur hur..."
If BE2 were completely ignorant of the tell he'd look more guilty. Since he knew it and did it on purpose it's more of a lulz play.
OMGUS is null and you know it.
I'm ready to 1 vs 1. Is there a gladiator in the house?
B_E, if you knew it was a scum tell, why did you do it?
imab, why does explaining the tell make B_E townie?
I'm well aware how good Cyan is, thank you.
So you think 2 votes in RVS is "piling on".
100% there's scum in Cyan/kamikaze.
BE2 is town for deliberately performing a tell knowing it would draw attention in addition to the other reasons highlighted.
Kamikaze why do you think a player as good as cyan has to resort to hyperbole like "your performing every tell imaginable"? Why can't he tell us what these tells are? Why is it that he's uncertain of the obvious tell BE2 performed but is so certain of the multitude of ambiguous tells I've supposedly engaged in?
Those are obviously what he's referring to.
And I didn't say I think 2 votes is piling on, I was recounting what Cyan said. Again, that's quite obvious from what I wrote. You're misrepping everyone.
unvote, vote imabusinessman
This just in: two scum found! See how Kami sloppily dodges questions to defend scumbuddy!
vote BE2