Presumably Seppel is actually Human. As opposed to in real life. ;p
I'm fairly resigned to dying tonight once I claim, so I'm gonna try to eke a bit more advantage out of it before I actually do. I will of course claim before the end of the day, but first, even if other people are unwilling for whatever reason to claim their role (Antny, Bur, etc.) please say whether or not your animal's name begins with the letter C. I can potentially clear you (but not if you've claimed Chimpanzee, because that name is suddenly problematic).
As a demonstration of good faith, my animal's name begins with an E.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Snurfy:
He does appear to be joking in his RVS post. However, his next post explaining it seems overly defensive. He also deflects to Antny and Sepriel. His post 231 has an odd disconnect between such a confident read on Hunt, and his vote on Hunt with "I'll go out on a limb here", as if he's not that confident.However his 269 seems like he's legit out of targets after Hunt claimed DV.I feel like scum would have backups.Also makes a decent case on Zionite.Then apperently gives Zionite enough town points to relieve him of suspicion and jumps on the Antny wagon.
I think he's scum. Possibly with Zionite given the way he jumped off his wagon.
Zionite: Among his first posts, he votes Rodemy in very big letters. I find this odd. IDK if he's scum for it, but it's still odd. His 210 is terrible. How quickly he agrees with Seppel re: the so far tell. Makes a town case on possible buddy snurfy.Thinks double vote giver isn't a town role (other people thought this too, I don't get it.) His 421 reads as panicky. Town don't get panicky, I don't think. claims bus driver (note: no flavor). Aftre rereading his response to "Who would you target", I actually find myself liking it as a townie mindset. His response to Plow in 687 seems like it should be suspicious, but isn't. He may be tunneling in 690, so +town there as it's hard to really tunnel as scum.Then after tunneling on IBM for a good while, votes Seppel? Ok, so maybe he WAS faking the tunneling.
I'm absolutely confident in his scumminess now that I reread his posts. Especially after that vote on Seppel.
Antny: (I'll read him later, I have to go. Will vote Zionite though if we get too close to DL unless someone posts a slam dunk case on Antny or Snurfy before then.)
I'll also fully catch up on everyone elses recent posts in the game tomorrow morning.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I can only get one power per night, night actions only. Power becomes a one shot for me.
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Presumably Seppel is actually Human. As opposed to in real life. ;p
I'm fairly resigned to dying tonight once I claim, so I'm gonna try to eke a bit more advantage out of it before I actually do. I will of course claim before the end of the day, but first, even if other people are unwilling for whatever reason to claim their role (Antny, Bur, etc.) please say whether or not your animal's name begins with the letter C. I can potentially clear you (but not if you've claimed Chimpanzee, because that name is suddenly problematic).
As a demonstration of good faith, my animal's name begins with an E.
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Zionite - ???, Bus Driver
Seppel - An Animal, Gets better version of items
Huntzilla - Duck, Motivator
imabusinessman - Chimpanzee, ???
Antny - ???, REFUSED
Bur - ???, REFUSED
KamikazeArchon - ???, REFUSED
Godot - Whale, Bulletproof
Sir Chris - Octopus, Gains most night abilities as a one-shot when targeted with them
Killjoy - C???, ???
Sepiriel - M???, Role is tied to name???
7hawk77 - Cockroach, ??? (Unclaimed passive ability)
Puddle Jumper - E???, ??? (Will claim at end of day)
The massclaim began 15 hours ago. The following people didn't post:
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Hunger - (Last active 12 hours ago)
Snurfy8 - (Last active 13 hours ago)
Plowshares - (Last active 15 hours ago)
ITF - (Last active 4 days ago)
I can kind of forgive Hunger / Snurfy / Plowshares, but TCM is totally not within the forgiveness zone.
I said in my last post before you decided to just start a massclaim that I wouldn't be claiming under any circumstances toDay.
Is no one other than Zionite bothered by Seppel's claim? Like, do you believe he has that role with that restriction and just happened to claim Zionite's animal? Can he possibly be telling the truth here? I'm very much doubting it. @Sir Chris, thoughts?
I am in agreement with whoever said Seppel and Zionite are unlikely to be scum together.
What do people think it means that Zionite had a wagon on him, that wagon dissolved with people saying they "liked his recent posts," and now the wagon is coming back seemingly with no real new cases?
For me its interesting to see Sep's flubbing of his own claim, we already knew the Chimp claim a while ago but with all the clutter and nothing it is actually not unbelievable to think he messed up the fake claim.
Does this make Sep scum? not sure, Sep has been known to do the weirdest stuff possible both as town and as scum, and yes his response of "Because Challenge!" is perfectly in line with him (actually i think we give Sep way too much leeway because of this, when any other player would have been either policy lynched or outright vigged... but surprisingly enough with Sep it could work)
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Seppel is either trying to win the game or run the town in to the ground. I think it's the former, he wouldn't have to put any effort in to this if he was scum.
Okay, well, barring any other C names, it looks like Killjoy is the one I can clear.
I'm an Egyptian Plover. There's a small rider associated with (presumably) Killjoy on the ability which I decline to share today, but will claim first thing tomorrow, assuming I survive. But safe bet Killjoy is town regardless.
I will still claim the meat of my ability before the end of the day.
We have 4 days until the deadline. It's very likely that we are lynching Zionite today. I don't care; Zionite is an ok lynch. But the important thing is that WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR A MASSCLAIM, and only 4 days to do it. That's not enough time for a true popcorn system. So instead, we're just going to spitfire claims -- claim as soon as you can.
I am monitoring everyone's "Last Active" time. If you're active and you don't post, suspicion of you will shoot through the roof.
I remember someone doing this before and getting in trouble, even if it's not against this game's rules.
If you do not claim toDay, suspicion of you will shoot through the roof.
Oh noes, Seppel suspicion, how terrible...
I'm a chimpanzee, tool user. No night action, but if I receive an item, I get a better version of it instead.
Seppel is either trying to win the game or run the town in to the ground. I think it's the former, he wouldn't have to put any effort in to this if he was scum.
Except that every time I've played with scum!Seppel he's done this very thing for towncred. That and the fact I think all these claims have helped scum more than town makes me incresingly confident he's scum this game.
@Killjoy: what I'm looking for from you at this point is some degree of comprehension of why there would be a connection between our roles. I feel like I've given you more than enough to see it, if you are who I think.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
As I said before: Not for a massclaim. I just came on to say "Bug off you Bastard". Seriously Seppel? Monitoring last active times? 1). Completely inappropriate for you to do as a player. 2). OoG bull***** is a sure fired way to either ruin the game, or ruff up some feathers and for no additional scum.
You know the last power heavy game where a town mass claimed day 1 was? Hetalia. People stopped playing mafia and focused on abilities. The scum one. Strange as Seppel was mafia that game that this would slip his mind.
I will take this over as Seppel is a fool and will be gone for a little while...
Zionite - Chimpanzee, Bus Driver
Seppel - An Animal, Gets better version of items
Huntzilla - Duck, Motivator (Will claim drawback at end of day/tomorrow)
imabusinessman - ???, ???
Antny - ???, REFUSED
Bur - ???, REFUSED
KamikazeArchon - ???, REFUSED
Godot - Whale, Bulletproof
Sir Chris - Octopus, Gains most night abilities as a one-shot when targeted with them
Killjoy - Crocodile, ??? (Does not want to claim ability) (Town Cleared by Puddles)
Sepiriel - M???, Role is tied to name???
7hawk77 - Cockroach, ??? (Unclaimed passive ability)
Puddle Jumper - Egyptian Plover, Namecop
Plowshares - Dove, Pardoner
The Cold Monarch - ???, Refused
Hunger - ???, ??? Refused The massclaim began 24 hours ago. The following people didn't post:
Snurfy8 -
ITF - MISSING IN ACTION
I think we have about all we will get, and I have to agree it hasn't illuminated a whole lot.
I have to say that though Puddles apparently cleared Killjoy... I have a hard time believing that as Killjoy is the only Predatory animal on the list. I had assumed that the scum would be predators...
Also, Seppel lying about his claim is really not surprising. I would almost say we should policy lynch him on that alone.
Seppel is some kind of ape, even human possibly, as Puddles pointed out...
I am not seeing any way here of breaking the game wide open...
Any helpful suggestions?
I have to say that though Puddles apparently cleared Killjoy... I have a hard time believing that as Killjoy is the only Predatory animal on the list. I had assumed that the scum would be predators...
Also, Seppel lying about his claim is really not surprising. I would almost say we should policy lynch him on that alone.
Seppel is some kind of ape, even human possibly, as Puddles pointed out...
I am not seeing any way here of breaking the game wide open...
Any helpful suggestions?
Why do you think Seppel is lying? I do think that either Seppel or Zionite is lying, but why do you think it's Seppel and not Zionite?
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I have to say that though Puddles apparently cleared Killjoy... I have a hard time believing that as Killjoy is the only Predatory animal on the list. I had assumed that the scum would be predators...
Also, Seppel lying about his claim is really not surprising. I would almost say we should policy lynch him on that alone.
Seppel is some kind of ape, even human possibly, as Puddles pointed out...
I am not seeing any way here of breaking the game wide open...
Any helpful suggestions?
Why do you think Seppel is lying? I do think that either Seppel or Zionite is lying, but why do you think it's Seppel and not Zionite?
Seppel said he was lying about the Chimp part... he said his was SUPER close to chimp, so he thought no one would claim chimp. He also said he is not allowed to claim what his is... otherwise he is turned VT...
I have to say that though Puddles apparently cleared Killjoy... I have a hard time believing that as Killjoy is the only Predatory animal on the list. I had assumed that the scum would be predators...
Huh. That's actually an interesting observation. The relative lack of predatory species could potentially point to something. Color me very surprised if it actually works out that way because that's the sort of design that completely breaks the game under a massclaim, and given the existence of a namecop in the game, it seems unlikely the mod wouldn't have considered the value of names in that situation.
I have cause to believe Killjoy is town, but I won't say it's guaranteed. I mostly claimed the way I did in hopes of getting scum to falseclaim. If it turns out that there's a pattern of predatory animals being scum, though, I wouldn't hesitate to kill him off.
If there is a relevant pattern, we should be able to find out pretty easily. Octopus is a predator. And so is Human, for whatever that's worth. Seppel and Sir Chris are both pretty worthy of attention from night actions tonight (even aside from them being generally good targets), if Zionite turns out to be a predator.
i'm more likely to believe that the threats to the animals are things like fire, drought, famine, and those sorts of things. If Seppel is human he's scum. That would explain why he gets better gifts. Humans are the ultimate tool user.
Zio's posting towards me has been poor: especially his dodge+accusation I "tricked" Seppel. Seppel's claim is one of the worst I've ever seen plus I see humans as a threat to animals...although Seppel hasn't actually claimed human.
I'm more inclined to want to lunch someone who makes me suspicious over a series of posts instead of one or two derp moments. One is a mindset and the other could be a brainfart.
So yeah imab is clearly scum, no one gets away with clearing Sep under the excuse of "hey maybe it was a brainfart", it is the sort of play scum do with him because it's the only way they can bypass/clear his playstyle (oddly enough this doesnt really do much to move Sep on the suspicion scale either way)
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Sorry for the confusion. I'm a whale. By name, I meant the title on my birth certificate. ...is Clarissa. Ahem, anyway. I'm really suspicious of Seppel after he was caught lying... Even though I went on a mini ramble of how is obnoxiousness meant he was town. Sir Chris earned major cred with me when he pointed out that Seppel was in a scum game where the town mass claimed (presumably by his prodding) and lost. Those two points definitely weigh heavier than the meta from the game I was in with him for like a Day and a half. Additionally, Zionite is definitely not lying about being a chimpanzee. Like... Why would you risk counter claiming somebody if you weren't actually that thing? Unvote. THIS IS A BOLD OKAY **** MY PHONE. UNVOTE.
So yeah imab is clearly scum, no one gets away with clearing Sep under the excuse of "hey maybe it was a brainfart", it is the sort of play scum do with him because it's the only way they can bypass/clear his playstyle (oddly enough this doesnt really do much to move Sep on the suspicion scale either way)
You think saying "100% chance there's scum between two players" is clearing them? How many votes do imagine I have this game?
This game is pretty frustrating. I don't really have the time to dedicate toward defending against this renewed wagon based on no new case. Nothing has changed, but the deadline is forcing me to be lynched. Pretty sad state of affairs. It's like no one even cares that Seppel claimed my role name.
Even this exact post you just made is so dripping with scum disdain for your wagon that I don't even comprehend how you aren't dead yet. How can you possibly say there's no new case against you when practically every post you make is a new case against you?
Seppel's claim is definitely worrisome, though. That's true enough, even if it doesn't make you look any better.
Zionite - Chimpanzee, Bus Driver
Seppel - Most likely ape (Human?), Gets better version of items
Huntzilla - Duck, Motivator (Will claim drawback at end of day/tomorrow)
imabusinessman - ???, ???
Antny - ???, REFUSED
Bur - ???, REFUSED
KamikazeArchon - [color=Lime]Owl, Tracker[/color]
Godot - Whale, Bulletproof
Sir Chris - Octopus, Gains most night abilities as a one-shot when targeted with them
Killjoy - Crocodile, ??? (Does not want to claim ability) (Town Cleared by Puddles)[/color]
Sepiriel - M???, Role is tied to name???
7hawk77 - Cockroach, ??? (Unclaimed passive ability)
Puddle Jumper - Egyptian Plover, Namecop]
Plowshares - Dove, Pardoner
The Cold Monarch - ???, Refused
Hunger - ???, ??? Refused The massclaim began 36 hours ago. The following people didn't post:
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ITF - MISSING IN ACTION
i'm more likely to believe that the threats to the animals are things like fire, drought, famine, and those sorts of things. If Seppel is human he's scum. That would explain why he gets better gifts. Humans are the ultimate tool user.
100% chance there's scum in zionite/Seppel.
I sincerely doubt that there are any other Names aside from animal ones in Animal Mafia. Human is at least an Animal, but I doubt that this is even Seppel's name.
I don't see his role having to be either Scum or Town specific.
I also agree that it is not likely to be Predators as the Mafia at this point, given the information we have.
Zionite seems to be digging his own grave, but I would really like to policy lynch Seppel, based on the lying and the fact that he sets up this damn massclaim and then isn't even around to help us out.
Plus, of all abilities claimed, his is the least useful to us as a town.
But I am happy to lynch Zionite again, his last post really left a nasty taste in my mouth.
Also, now that we went through with the massclaim, we should be coordinating night actions, correct? Or are we going to just have everyone do their night actions based on their own ideas?
You should Bur. It's fun, and liberating...
I'm fairly resigned to dying tonight once I claim, so I'm gonna try to eke a bit more advantage out of it before I actually do. I will of course claim before the end of the day, but first, even if other people are unwilling for whatever reason to claim their role (Antny, Bur, etc.) please say whether or not your animal's name begins with the letter C. I can potentially clear you (but not if you've claimed Chimpanzee, because that name is suddenly problematic).
As a demonstration of good faith, my animal's name begins with an E.
But why can't you clear chimpanzee but can clear other c animals? Or is it just one c animal in particular?
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Quoting so it shows up it shows up in his notifications...
@Sir Chris, I know it's asking a lot, but could you fully state your restriction?
Snurfy:
He does appear to be joking in his RVS post. However, his next post explaining it seems overly defensive. He also deflects to Antny and Sepriel. His post 231 has an odd disconnect between such a confident read on Hunt, and his vote on Hunt with "I'll go out on a limb here", as if he's not that confident.However his 269 seems like he's legit out of targets after Hunt claimed DV.I feel like scum would have backups.Also makes a decent case on Zionite.Then apperently gives Zionite enough town points to relieve him of suspicion and jumps on the Antny wagon.
I think he's scum. Possibly with Zionite given the way he jumped off his wagon.
Zionite: Among his first posts, he votes Rodemy in very big letters. I find this odd. IDK if he's scum for it, but it's still odd. His 210 is terrible. How quickly he agrees with Seppel re: the so far tell. Makes a town case on possible buddy snurfy.Thinks double vote giver isn't a town role (other people thought this too, I don't get it.) His 421 reads as panicky. Town don't get panicky, I don't think. claims bus driver (note: no flavor). Aftre rereading his response to "Who would you target", I actually find myself liking it as a townie mindset. His response to Plow in 687 seems like it should be suspicious, but isn't. He may be tunneling in 690, so +town there as it's hard to really tunnel as scum.Then after tunneling on IBM for a good while, votes Seppel? Ok, so maybe he WAS faking the tunneling.
I'm absolutely confident in his scumminess now that I reread his posts. Especially after that vote on Seppel.
Antny: (I'll read him later, I have to go. Will vote Zionite though if we get too close to DL unless someone posts a slam dunk case on Antny or Snurfy before then.)
I'll also fully catch up on everyone elses recent posts in the game tomorrow morning.
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I don't want to claim details because that only helps scum but the role has no activation, its a passive ability.
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Zionite - ???, Bus Driver
Seppel - An Animal, Gets better version of items
Huntzilla - Duck, Motivator
imabusinessman - Chimpanzee, ???
Antny - ???, REFUSED
Bur - ???, REFUSED
KamikazeArchon - ???, REFUSED
Godot - Whale, Bulletproof
Sir Chris - Octopus, Gains most night abilities as a one-shot when targeted with them
Killjoy - C???, ???
Sepiriel - M???, Role is tied to name???
7hawk77 - Cockroach, ??? (Unclaimed passive ability)
Puddle Jumper - E???, ??? (Will claim at end of day)
The massclaim began 15 hours ago. The following people didn't post:
The Cold Monarch - (Last active 9 hours ago)
Hunger - (Last active 12 hours ago)
Snurfy8 - (Last active 13 hours ago)
Plowshares - (Last active 15 hours ago)
ITF - (Last active 4 days ago)
I can kind of forgive Hunger / Snurfy / Plowshares, but TCM is totally not within the forgiveness zone.
Is no one other than Zionite bothered by Seppel's claim? Like, do you believe he has that role with that restriction and just happened to claim Zionite's animal? Can he possibly be telling the truth here? I'm very much doubting it. @Sir Chris, thoughts?
I am in agreement with whoever said Seppel and Zionite are unlikely to be scum together.
What do people think it means that Zionite had a wagon on him, that wagon dissolved with people saying they "liked his recent posts," and now the wagon is coming back seemingly with no real new cases?
Does this make Sep scum? not sure, Sep has been known to do the weirdest stuff possible both as town and as scum, and yes his response of "Because Challenge!" is perfectly in line with him (actually i think we give Sep way too much leeway because of this, when any other player would have been either policy lynched or outright vigged... but surprisingly enough with Sep it could work)
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I'm an Egyptian Plover. There's a small rider associated with (presumably) Killjoy on the ability which I decline to share today, but will claim first thing tomorrow, assuming I survive. But safe bet Killjoy is town regardless.
I will still claim the meat of my ability before the end of the day.
What exactly do you mean by the bolded?
I remember someone doing this before and getting in trouble, even if it's not against this game's rules.
Oh noes, Seppel suspicion, how terrible...
Here's a plan, let's not give Seppel items.
Except that every time I've played with scum!Seppel he's done this very thing for towncred. That and the fact I think all these claims have helped scum more than town makes me incresingly confident he's scum this game.
I am the Crocodile.
But I reread Antny, he seems to be doing a lot of scumhunting. So Unvote, Vote Zionite.
You know the last power heavy game where a town mass claimed day 1 was? Hetalia. People stopped playing mafia and focused on abilities. The scum one. Strange as Seppel was mafia that game that this would slip his mind.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
You said you were Whale...
What gives?
Zionite - Chimpanzee, Bus Driver
Seppel - An Animal, Gets better version of items
Huntzilla - Duck, Motivator (Will claim drawback at end of day/tomorrow)
imabusinessman - ???, ???
Antny - ???, REFUSED
Bur - ???, REFUSED
KamikazeArchon - ???, REFUSED
Godot - Whale, Bulletproof
Sir Chris - Octopus, Gains most night abilities as a one-shot when targeted with them
Killjoy - Crocodile, ??? (Does not want to claim ability) (Town Cleared by Puddles)
Sepiriel - M???, Role is tied to name???
7hawk77 - Cockroach, ??? (Unclaimed passive ability)
Puddle Jumper - Egyptian Plover, Namecop
Plowshares - Dove, Pardoner
The Cold Monarch - ???, Refused
Hunger - ???, ??? Refused
The massclaim began 24 hours ago. The following people didn't post:
Snurfy8 -
ITF - MISSING IN ACTION
I think we have about all we will get, and I have to agree it hasn't illuminated a whole lot.
A half-mass claim is worse than a full mass claim.
I'm Owl, a Tracker.
Also, Seppel lying about his claim is really not surprising. I would almost say we should policy lynch him on that alone.
Seppel is some kind of ape, even human possibly, as Puddles pointed out...
I am not seeing any way here of breaking the game wide open...
Any helpful suggestions?
Why do you think Seppel is lying? I do think that either Seppel or Zionite is lying, but why do you think it's Seppel and not Zionite?
Seppel said he was lying about the Chimp part... he said his was SUPER close to chimp, so he thought no one would claim chimp. He also said he is not allowed to claim what his is... otherwise he is turned VT...
Huh. That's actually an interesting observation. The relative lack of predatory species could potentially point to something. Color me very surprised if it actually works out that way because that's the sort of design that completely breaks the game under a massclaim, and given the existence of a namecop in the game, it seems unlikely the mod wouldn't have considered the value of names in that situation.
I have cause to believe Killjoy is town, but I won't say it's guaranteed. I mostly claimed the way I did in hopes of getting scum to falseclaim. If it turns out that there's a pattern of predatory animals being scum, though, I wouldn't hesitate to kill him off.
If there is a relevant pattern, we should be able to find out pretty easily. Octopus is a predator. And so is Human, for whatever that's worth. Seppel and Sir Chris are both pretty worthy of attention from night actions tonight (even aside from them being generally good targets), if Zionite turns out to be a predator.
100% chance there's scum in zionite/Seppel.
Okay, I was using the word predator loosely. I guess I meant carnivores, although looking at wikipedia entries, that seems fairly loose, too. I dunno.
Which is more likely in your eyes?
Zio's posting towards me has been poor: especially his dodge+accusation I "tricked" Seppel. Seppel's claim is one of the worst I've ever seen plus I see humans as a threat to animals...although Seppel hasn't actually claimed human.
I'm more inclined to want to lunch someone who makes me suspicious over a series of posts instead of one or two derp moments. One is a mindset and the other could be a brainfart.
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Seppel's claim is definitely worrisome, though. That's true enough, even if it doesn't make you look any better.
Zionite - Chimpanzee, Bus Driver
Seppel - Most likely ape (Human?), Gets better version of items
Huntzilla - Duck, Motivator (Will claim drawback at end of day/tomorrow)
imabusinessman - ???, ???
Antny - ???, REFUSED
Bur - ???, REFUSED
KamikazeArchon - [color=Lime]Owl, Tracker[/color]
Godot - Whale, Bulletproof
Sir Chris - Octopus, Gains most night abilities as a one-shot when targeted with them
Killjoy - Crocodile, ??? (Does not want to claim ability) (Town Cleared by Puddles)[/color]
Sepiriel - M???, Role is tied to name???
7hawk77 - Cockroach, ??? (Unclaimed passive ability)
Puddle Jumper - Egyptian Plover, Namecop]
Plowshares - Dove, Pardoner
The Cold Monarch - ???, Refused
Hunger - ???, ??? Refused
The massclaim began 36 hours ago. The following people didn't post:
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ITF - MISSING IN ACTION
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I sincerely doubt that there are any other Names aside from animal ones in Animal Mafia. Human is at least an Animal, but I doubt that this is even Seppel's name.
I don't see his role having to be either Scum or Town specific.
I also agree that it is not likely to be Predators as the Mafia at this point, given the information we have.
Zionite seems to be digging his own grave, but I would really like to policy lynch Seppel, based on the lying and the fact that he sets up this damn massclaim and then isn't even around to help us out.
Plus, of all abilities claimed, his is the least useful to us as a town.
But I am happy to lynch Zionite again, his last post really left a nasty taste in my mouth.
Also, now that we went through with the massclaim, we should be coordinating night actions, correct? Or are we going to just have everyone do their night actions based on their own ideas?
I've long-maintained my position of scum!Zion.
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