Like I told someone else, when I am town I am not going to go out of my way to phrase things to not include my knowledge that I am town. Personally I've never seen anyone actually be cleared by stating they are town, so I mean yeah. Everyone should be saying they are town, just some are lying.
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1) Would you say your goal this game is to lynch town PRs?
2) Name one of your scum tells.
1.) Lynching town PRs is super-secret tech. Lull the scum into a false sense of security then BAM lynch all of them at the same time. It's the perfect plan
2.) Only thing I can think of is I lurk more as scum.
Look at this gem I pulled off of page 1. Anyone think ITF has not been lurking HARDCORE this game?
When you saw the words "Here's a sample" and "that's a hypothetical" in post 712, what went through your mind? What was the thought process you underwent that caused you to make post 713?
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What do you think of zionite's epic dodge of this question I directed to him?
I know you guys are voting ant right now but snurfy's vote is awful. You know how one bad apple spoils the bunch? Snurfy's vote is the bad apple. Also snurfy is vig-bait.
Hey, I pretty much totally agree that Zio ought to be lynched today. If we can get literally anyone else on that wagon, I'm all for taking him down. I'm not the one you need to convince, though. Get Chris's vote(s) and that wagon will probably bear fruit.
I wanna reread Antny, Zio, and Snurfy just for helping me remember what they've done's sake (I remember Zionite, but a reread is still in order). I'd prefer not to just vote Zionite just because I remember him being scummy, especially since we do have a few days.
I can do that after work tomorrow (read: Thursday at 12am PST).
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
@SirChris: If you think my vote is nonsense, please do tell me, why Zio is town in your opinion.
This still stands. I'm waiting, Chris.
I don't like Snurfy's latest post. I also strongly dislike Anthy wagon. He may not be the towniest player in the game, but we have many other players more suspicious than him. (And after I ISO'd him, I'm leaning slightly town on him.)
@Hunt: Choosing who to lynch based on overlap on T/S-lists is a bad idea. It makes it easier for mafia to cause mislynches and harder for town to analyse wagons.
I'm waiting that "content today" from Plow. I don't recall him doing anything at all in this game.
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When you saw the words "Here's a sample" and "that's a hypothetical" in post 712, what went through your mind? What was the thought process you underwent that caused you to make post 713?
You're either scum or playing badly to propose stupid hypotheticals that seem like they generate discussion but in reality produces nothing. You even tricked seppel into wasting valuable investigative energy.
Deadlines suck. I don't think we'll reach a consensus today. I thought that with the Cythare wagon and the suspicion he garnered it would have been easier to get votes on you. Your behavior so far has been spectacularly scummy.
Snurfy is really the only alternative lynch. But I think Imabsman is a better lynch. confirm vote Imabusinessman
Considering my initial idea is for revealing zero information, I am completely against a mass claim.
That said, consider my vote of Antsy for the sake of a deadline. I would love to actually place my vote, but it would be in my best interest to not be on the plurality wagon. I can try and do a case on him tomorrow if that would help.
Bur I disagree that Zio has been changing wagons a lot. Also in general the way he compiled votes is something I don't like. I tend to have a decent eye for how votes gather on people and I just don't likw how the votes have gathered on Zio. A lot of very weak votes, lots of ticky tack reason.
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Considering my initial idea is for revealing zero information, I am completely against a mass claim.
That said, consider my vote of Antsy for the sake of a deadline. I would love to actually place my vote, but it would be in my best interest to not be on the plurality wagon. I can try and do a case on him tomorrow if that would help.
Why do you find Anthy suspicious? I'm slightly leaning town on him.
Bur I disagree that Zio has been changing wagons a lot. Also in general the way he compiled votes is something I don't like. I tend to have a decent eye for how votes gather on people and I just don't likw how the votes have gathered on Zio. A lot of very weak votes, lots of ticky tack reason.
Do you like Zio's push on Hunt? How about Cyanity Check?
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Pretty sure Zionite is scum and he's currently going after imabusinessman. I thint that it's likely they are buddies. Zionite looks awful and wants to either A get a scum lynched to clear himself (which won't work because his claim would get NKed) or B. Make imabusinessman look better.
If anyone else had Zions role, they would have instantly responded to their claim as an "I told you I'm town you idiots" and not "please believe my claim"
I think the best course of action is to move forward with the Zions lynch.
Seppel, I'm willing to give the claim a shot only if enough people agree. Having a handful of people claim early and then the rest not want to follow through is the worst possible outcome.
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When you saw the words "Here's a sample" and "that's a hypothetical" in post 712, what went through your mind? What was the thought process you underwent that caused you to make post 713?
You're either scum or playing badly to propose stupid hypotheticals that seem like they generate discussion but in reality produces nothing. You even tricked seppel into wasting valuable investigative energy.
Deadlines suck. I don't think we'll reach a consensus today. I thought that with the Cythare wagon and the suspicion he garnered it would have been easier to get votes on you. Your behavior so far has been spectacularly scummy.
Snurfy is really the only alternative lynch. But I think Imabsman is a better lynch. confirm vote Imabusinessman
As a new player to this forum I found the discussoon of the hypothetical really insightful on the thought process of the players involve and I learned about this site's meta as well. Your inability to see nothing of value in that convo doesn't read genuine to me at all. Your criticism and then accusTion that I somehow "tricked" Seppel is just Lolzy flailing.
Just because we don't get to the mass claim today doesn't mean we can't pursue it toMorrow when we have more time to set it up properly and plan it out.
Just because we don't get to the mass claim today doesn't mean we can't pursue it toMorrow when we have more time to set it up properly and plan it out.
HEY LET ME REPHRASE YOUR SENTENCE
Just because we don't get to the mass claim today doesn't mean we can't pursue it toMorrow when THE SCUM have more time to set up THEIR FALSECLAIMS properly and plan it out.
Zionite wagon's back up to 6 people by my count. Pretty sure we have enough votes to end this. TCM gets his way, looks like.
No he doesn't. If we go to deadline, the player with the most votes gets lynched. Even if we don't get to 10 on Zionite, a NL is definitely not happening.
We have 4 days until the deadline. It's very likely that we are lynching Zionite today. I don't care; Zionite is an ok lynch. But the important thing is that WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR A MASSCLAIM, and only 4 days to do it. That's not enough time for a true popcorn system. So instead, we're just going to spitfire claims -- claim as soon as you can.
I am monitoring everyone's "Last Active" time. If you're active and you don't post, suspicion of you will shoot through the roof.
If you do not claim toDay, suspicion of you will shoot through the roof.
I'm a chimpanzee, tool user. No night action, but if I receive an item, I get a better version of it instead.
I'm putting a customer on hold for the express purpose of making this post to show you I'm not claiming. I can't wait to get home so I can point something out to you that's really Lulzy about about yours and zionite's claims.
We have 4 days until the deadline. It's very likely that we are lynching Zionite today. I don't care; Zionite is an ok lynch. But the important thing is that WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR A MASSCLAIM, and only 4 days to do it. That's not enough time for a true popcorn system. So instead, we're just going to spitfire claims -- claim as soon as you can.
I am monitoring everyone's "Last Active" time. If you're active and you don't post, suspicion of you will shoot through the roof.
If you do not claim toDay, suspicion of you will shoot through the roof.
I'm a chimpanzee, tool user. No night action, but if I receive an item, I get a better version of it instead.
Seppel is driving me nuts tbh. I wouldn't mind claiming if he wasn't this abrasive about it. Ugh. But hunt and him already did it. I have a strong town read on Hunt. I don't know if Seppel is scum or just obnoxious.
I'm a whale. Town bulletproof. I don't affect anybody else... Which is why I mistakenly thought it wasn't a "power role" before I was corrected.
Okay, so I think Seppel is town. Because he's so annoying he couldn't possibly be mafia. As a mafia person, he'd want people to like him more, he'd be more people-pleasing. In IJI Mafia 2, he was neutral.. But much more pleasant, and probably because he wanted to divert negative attention from himself. As town, he doesn't have that concern in the back of his mind of like "oh better be nice I dun wanna get caught"
The capitalization of everything and blatantly ignoring what people are saying and saying everybody who disagrees with him is scum is just driving me nuts. .-.
He's like the kid in the neighborhood that is the only one with the football and if people don't play the way he wants then he throws a tantrum, leaves, and takes the ball with him.
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Okay, so I think Seppel is town. Because he's so annoying he couldn't possibly be mafia. As a mafia person, he'd want people to like him more, he'd be more people-pleasing. In IJI Mafia 2, he was neutral.. But much more pleasant, and probably because he wanted to divert negative attention from himself. As town, he doesn't have that concern in the back of his mind of like "oh better be nice I dun wanna get caught"
The capitalization of everything and blatantly ignoring what people are saying and saying everybody who disagrees with him is scum is just driving me nuts. .-.
He's like the kid in the neighborhood that is the only one with the football and if people don't play the way he wants then he throws a tantrum, leaves, and takes the ball with him.
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Sweet! Does that mean you can motivate someone today too? I would have assumed you would have already done so, so I am guessing that it falls in the restrictions category.
Pretty sure Zionite is scum and he's currently going after imabusinessman. I thint that it's likely they are buddies. Zionite looks awful and wants to either A get a scum lynched to clear himself (which won't work because his claim would get NKed) or B. Make imabusinessman look better.
If anyone else had Zions role, they would have instantly responded to their claim as an "I told you I'm town you idiots" and not "please believe my claim"
I think the best course of action is to move forward with the Zions lynch.
unvote
vote Zionite
#Yoloswag420noscope
Already queuing up those lynches a day in advance before you even see my alignment?
When you saw the words "Here's a sample" and "that's a hypothetical" in post 712, what went through your mind? What was the thought process you underwent that caused you to make post 713?
You're either scum or playing badly to propose stupid hypotheticals that seem like they generate discussion but in reality produces nothing. You even tricked seppel into wasting valuable investigative energy.
Deadlines suck. I don't think we'll reach a consensus today. I thought that with the Cythare wagon and the suspicion he garnered it would have been easier to get votes on you. Your behavior so far has been spectacularly scummy.
Snurfy is really the only alternative lynch. But I think Imabsman is a better lynch. confirm vote Imabusinessman
As a new player to this forum I found the discussoon of the hypothetical really insightful on the thought process of the players involve and I learned about this site's meta as well. Your inability to see nothing of value in that convo doesn't read genuine to me at all. Your criticism and then accusTion that I somehow "tricked" Seppel is just Lolzy flailing.
It doesn't help to speculate about a fake setup. You can learn about thought processes and site meta by reading other games, not by wasting our deadline time. And to be real, there was not that much discussion of it to begin with. It's just perpetuating and enabling the illusion of content.
I'm actually some other kind of ape but as part of my role, if I claim it I become a VT.
I just thought nobody would be Chimpanzee because goddamn that's close to my real role.
Anyway, hope you believe me!
If chimpanzee was so close to your real role, why didn't you say something when I claimed? You've got to be kidding right? I seriously doubt you're telling the truth right now.
*Sigh* Yeah you're probably right Sir Chris. Sucks.
I got Chimpanzee - Bus Driver. For those that don't know, I swap two players positions at night. Whatever action that will target them will actually happen to the other guy I pick and vice versa. This is one of the (lesser) reasons why I was against the no claim idea, as it gives me nothing to go on and forces me to just no-action for fear of screwing up.
We have 4 days until the deadline. It's very likely that we are lynching Zionite today. I don't care; Zionite is an ok lynch. But the important thing is that WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR A MASSCLAIM, and only 4 days to do it. That's not enough time for a true popcorn system. So instead, we're just going to spitfire claims -- claim as soon as you can.
I am monitoring everyone's "Last Active" time. If you're active and you don't post, suspicion of you will shoot through the roof.
If you do not claim toDay, suspicion of you will shoot through the roof.
I'm a chimpanzee, tool user. No night action, but if I receive an item, I get a better version of it instead.
GIVE ME ITEMS
Okay, Seppel is probably town if Zionite flips mafia. I can't see them both being mafia.
Okay, let me put it like this: What have you liked about Zionite? I read some of your most recent posts, but can't find anything besides that you don't like how the votes have piled upon Zionite.
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I'm actually some other kind of ape but as part of my role, if I claim it I become a VT.
I just thought nobody would be Chimpanzee because goddamn that's close to my real role.
Anyway, hope you believe me!
If chimpanzee was so close to your real role, why didn't you say something when I claimed? You've got to be kidding right? I seriously doubt you're telling the truth right now.
unvote, vote Seppel
This is Seppel we are talking about. Seppel, who didn't notice he got a PM giving him a cop result on mafia.
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Okay, so I think Seppel is town. Because he's so annoying he couldn't possibly be mafia. As a mafia person, he'd want people to like him more, he'd be more people-pleasing. In IJI Mafia 2, he was neutral.. But much more pleasant, and probably because he wanted to divert negative attention from himself. As town, he doesn't have that concern in the back of his mind of like "oh better be nice I dun wanna get caught"
The capitalization of everything and blatantly ignoring what people are saying and saying everybody who disagrees with him is scum is just driving me nuts. .-.
He's like the kid in the neighborhood that is the only one with the football and if people don't play the way he wants then he throws a tantrum, leaves, and takes the ball with him.
He's like Cartman.
And Cartman lives in a town. So sure.
I have a feeling scumGodot would totally rail me for this, so I like you again.
If chimpanzee was so close to your real role, why didn't you say something when I claimed? You've got to be kidding right? I seriously doubt you're telling the truth right now.
Because I don't know what your real role is. What's your real role?
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Look at this gem I pulled off of page 1. Anyone think ITF has not been lurking HARDCORE this game?
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What do you think of zionite's epic dodge of this question I directed to him?
I know you guys are voting ant right now but snurfy's vote is awful. You know how one bad apple spoils the bunch? Snurfy's vote is the bad apple. Also snurfy is vig-bait.
I wanna reread Antny, Zio, and Snurfy just for helping me remember what they've done's sake (I remember Zionite, but a reread is still in order). I'd prefer not to just vote Zionite just because I remember him being scummy, especially since we do have a few days.
I can do that after work tomorrow (read: Thursday at 12am PST).
This still stands. I'm waiting, Chris.
I don't like Snurfy's latest post. I also strongly dislike Anthy wagon. He may not be the towniest player in the game, but we have many other players more suspicious than him. (And after I ISO'd him, I'm leaning slightly town on him.)
@Hunt: Choosing who to lynch based on overlap on T/S-lists is a bad idea. It makes it easier for mafia to cause mislynches and harder for town to analyse wagons.
I'm waiting that "content today" from Plow. I don't recall him doing anything at all in this game.
How about snurfy starts us off, and we popcorn-claim.
Animal, ability name, ability description.
Please do not copy-paste.
You're either scum or playing badly to propose stupid hypotheticals that seem like they generate discussion but in reality produces nothing. You even tricked seppel into wasting valuable investigative energy.
Deadlines suck. I don't think we'll reach a consensus today. I thought that with the Cythare wagon and the suspicion he garnered it would have been easier to get votes on you. Your behavior so far has been spectacularly scummy.
Snurfy is really the only alternative lynch. But I think Imabsman is a better lynch.
confirm vote Imabusinessman
I honestly didn't see it the first time.
That said, consider my vote of Antsy for the sake of a deadline. I would love to actually place my vote, but it would be in my best interest to not be on the plurality wagon. I can try and do a case on him tomorrow if that would help.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
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Nice try, Seppel.
Why do you find Anthy suspicious? I'm slightly leaning town on him.
Do you like Zio's push on Hunt? How about Cyanity Check?
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Pretty sure Zionite is scum and he's currently going after imabusinessman. I thint that it's likely they are buddies. Zionite looks awful and wants to either A get a scum lynched to clear himself (which won't work because his claim would get NKed) or B. Make imabusinessman look better.
If anyone else had Zions role, they would have instantly responded to their claim as an "I told you I'm town you idiots" and not "please believe my claim"
I think the best course of action is to move forward with the Zions lynch.
unvote
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Scum list hasn't changed since last time.
Seppel, I'm willing to give the claim a shot only if enough people agree. Having a handful of people claim early and then the rest not want to follow through is the worst possible outcome.
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As a new player to this forum I found the discussoon of the hypothetical really insightful on the thought process of the players involve and I learned about this site's meta as well. Your inability to see nothing of value in that convo doesn't read genuine to me at all. Your criticism and then accusTion that I somehow "tricked" Seppel is just Lolzy flailing.
Can we get a Votecount
Just because we don't get to the mass claim today doesn't mean we can't pursue it toMorrow when we have more time to set it up properly and plan it out.
imabusinessman (1): Zionite
Snurfy8 (3): Seppel, Huntzilla, Plowshares
Sir Chris (2): Sepiriel, Killjoy
Seppel (1): TCM
Zionite (6): Hunger, Antny223, Bur, imabusinessman, 7Hawk77, KamikazeArchon
Sepiriel (1): ITF
Antny223 (3): waitingforgodot, Puddle Jumper, Snurfy8
Killjoy (2): Sir Chris (2)
With 18 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch.
The deadline is 3/22/15 at 11:59 PM EST.
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Town aligned: 4/3 - 57%
Just because we don't get to the mass claim today doesn't mean we can't pursue it toMorrow when THE SCUM have more time to set up THEIR FALSECLAIMS properly and plan it out.
We have 4 days until the deadline. It's very likely that we are lynching Zionite today. I don't care; Zionite is an ok lynch. But the important thing is that WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR A MASSCLAIM, and only 4 days to do it. That's not enough time for a true popcorn system. So instead, we're just going to spitfire claims -- claim as soon as you can.
I am monitoring everyone's "Last Active" time. If you're active and you don't post, suspicion of you will shoot through the roof.
If you do not claim toDay, suspicion of you will shoot through the roof.
I'm a chimpanzee, tool user. No night action, but if I receive an item, I get a better version of it instead.
GIVE ME ITEMS
I can motivate someone (including myself) once a day to be able to receive an extra vote for the rest of the day.
There is a drawback associated with this, but I would much prefer to claim this last bit at the end.
It starts with c And ends in zee.
I'm actually some other kind of ape but as part of my role, if I claim it I become a VT.
I just thought nobody would be Chimpanzee because goddamn that's close to my real role.
Anyway, hope you believe me!
Also imabusinessman's post gives of very townie vibes.
Also, he's a businessman.
I'm a whale. Town bulletproof. I don't affect anybody else... Which is why I mistakenly thought it wasn't a "power role" before I was corrected.
The capitalization of everything and blatantly ignoring what people are saying and saying everybody who disagrees with him is scum is just driving me nuts. .-.
He's like the kid in the neighborhood that is the only one with the football and if people don't play the way he wants then he throws a tantrum, leaves, and takes the ball with him.
He's like Cartman.
And Cartman lives in a town. So sure.
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You misspelled "vote ZIONITE."
Unvote. Vote Zionite
Sweet! Does that mean you can motivate someone today too? I would have assumed you would have already done so, so I am guessing that it falls in the restrictions category.
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Already queuing up those lynches a day in advance before you even see my alignment?
How does one respond to their own claim?
It doesn't help to speculate about a fake setup. You can learn about thought processes and site meta by reading other games, not by wasting our deadline time. And to be real, there was not that much discussion of it to begin with. It's just perpetuating and enabling the illusion of content.
If chimpanzee was so close to your real role, why didn't you say something when I claimed? You've got to be kidding right? I seriously doubt you're telling the truth right now.
unvote, vote Seppel
This... 100%
Why?
Okay, Seppel is probably town if Zionite flips mafia. I can't see them both being mafia.
Okay, let me put it like this: What have you liked about Zionite? I read some of your most recent posts, but can't find anything besides that you don't like how the votes have piled upon Zionite.
This is Seppel we are talking about. Seppel, who didn't notice he got a PM giving him a cop result on mafia.
I'm Bur and I'm not claiming.