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Do we still have the capability of hidden, invite-only game threads under the Curse structure (such as those used for Cyberspace mafia)?

Edit: And why do specific post links take me to the first post of the thread? I'm sure there's a discussion somewhere, but I can't find it.

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Do we still have the capability of hidden, invite-only game threads under the Curse structure (such as those used for Cyberspace mafia)?

Yes, this is still possible.

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Edit: And why do specific post links take me to the first post of the thread? I'm sure there's a discussion somewhere, but I can't find it.

Since threads are referred to by their current name rather than a persistent identifier (per usual), changing the thread title breaks all links to specific posts. Curse is aware of this problem but I wouldn't count on a solution any time soon.

Yeah, let's cut to two basics.

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Edit: And why do specific post links take me to the first post of the thread? I'm sure there's a discussion somewhere, but I can't find it.

Since threads are referred to by their current name rather than a persistent identifier (per usual), changing the thread title breaks all links to specific posts. Curse is aware of this problem but I wouldn't count on a solution any time soon.

Hmm, this is less than optimal. Has there been a discussion/brainstorming on this?

Also, what exactly is required to get "in" a given queue? It doesn't look like Cythare's recent mini request has been fully reviewed, but he was added to the queue. I've had a setup for a while, but didn't feel like I had time to devote to the review discussion; now that my mini is under review, can I be added to the queue or do I have to wait until I get the go-ahead from my reviewers?

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Hmm, this is less than optimal. Has there been a discussion/brainstorming on this?

The discussion is all on the technical side of things. It'll get fixed eventually, but I wouldn't hold out hope that it happens anytime soon.

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Also, what exactly is required to get "in" a given queue? It doesn't look like Cythare's recent mini request has been fully reviewed, but he was added to the queue. I've had a setup for a while, but didn't feel like I had time to devote to the review discussion; now that my mini is under review, can I be added to the queue or do I have to wait until I get the go-ahead from my reviewers?

I put Cythare there as a placeholder since his other Mini isn't finished yet. I (or the Secretary) will add him to the bottom of the queue when it does finish.

As for being added to the queue when the setup isn't fully reviewed:

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Please have your setups completed and reviewed (if not on their way to review) when you sign up to host a game.

But someone please correct me if I'm wrong since I'm not the actual Secretary

No, you're correct. You have to have a completed setup to be on the list, and either have it reviewed already or en route to review to be added.

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Yeah, let's cut to two basics.

Do we want to stay at three minis or go down to two of those as well?

Maybe worth revisiting this question after the signups for the next specialty go up.

I hope we can stay at three minis as those are my favorite game and also really like designing them. They seem to fill up more quickly than the basics as well.

I would suggest that we should go down to two, but I agree a little patience and seeing how the current sign-ups go won't hurt.

Recent discussion in the sign up thread about whether or not we could change the rule and allow hosts to be signed up in both the mini and specialty queues considering the length of time it takes to get through that latter queue. It seemed to have some support.

Thoughts?

I say wait your turn. I like having a variety in mods as it exposes the sub as a whole to a wider variety of mindsets. All of my setups, for example, have some similarities and you can feel my fingerprint in all of them. That's fine, but if every third setup is one of mine *cough* prisoner's dilemma *cough*, we miss out on other hosts who offer unique perspectives. How do we grow if not by watching and learning from others?

Having a revolving door of the same hosts would create an environment that benefits a few at the expense of the whole, in my opinion.

...This is slightly a doomsaying scenario, since obviously the mini queue isn't quite that fast (and it got way bigger over the past few months, which alleviates this issue somewhat), but I do like how things work now.

Plus, if you have a setup that is SO GOOD that the world can't wait, we have the FTQ (and PCQ) for that.

I'm going to barn Megs on that.

Mafia Community,

I owe everyone on this site an apology after my sudden disappearance. A lot has happened in my life since I lost my job. Without going into great details, I was involved in vehicular accident that injured me good (fully recovered from the accident), my wife became greatly ill and still has a long a road to recovery and on top of that, I was diagnosed with pneumonia this last Friday and I am also recovering.

On to some better news though. My wife and I successfully relocated to Sacramento, Ca. despite everything going on and we both have new and better jobs and have a much less stressful life now because of it.

With this being said, I apologize for my disappearing like I did and hopefully this will not be the case in the future. I still need time to recover myself as I am barely able to handle day to day errands without being exhausted. I'm hoping to be returning soon. Best wishes to everyone in the Mafia Community and I will see you all in the future.

- Scott

Welcome back, Void. Sorry things haven't gone too well for you, but I'm glad it's getting better. Looking forward to seeing your presence in the sub again.

No need to feel bad about your disappearance Void. Taking care of your family is way more important than calling us scum

I'm glad to hear things are going good for you Void; you're certainly deserving of it.

Glad to see you're back and things are going better, Void! You're good people.

That would be our wonderful tech Feyd. Yes,

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That would be our wonderful tech Feyd. Yes,

It would've been up a lot sooner, we didn't realize it was missing because nobody reported it & the senior staff could still see it there. It wasn't until I went to post up my Star Trek MU3 game (FTQ... when's the next one) & realized that being an admin meant I could see everything in there that I sent up the FeydBatsignal & we figured out what the hell went wrong during the import. The solution was all Feyd though

On a lighter note, I've got a few new ideas for creative Twilight Zone uses & will be cooking up a setup or two that'll demonstrate them... when they're ready, I'll need reviewers & a nonstaff volunteer to mod them so we can be sure we're getting the permissions right.

ER was definitely aware of it being down when he was on staff, just sayin'.

But yes, I was actually coming in here to ask about the next FTQ, myself. I believe we selected the Megiddo/AI setup?

Thanks for the tech fix guys!

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ER was definitely aware of it being down when he was on staff, just sayin'.

But yes, I was actually coming in here to ask about the next FTQ, myself. I believe we selected the Megiddo/AI setup?

The last I recall, I asked what setups we had submitted and got a bunch of crickets in response. That was in April, I think.

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Thanks for the tech fix guys!

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ER was definitely aware of it being down when he was on staff, just sayin'.

But yes, I was actually coming in here to ask about the next FTQ, myself. I believe we selected the Megiddo/AI setup?

The last I recall, I asked what setups we had submitted and got a bunch of crickets in response. That was in April, I think.

I'm ready to go with a day or two's lead time if the queue's empty & Megs/AI aren't ready to go.

We are waiting for the next specialty to fire. After that it might be FTQ time!

And I'm still not ready to host a game right now, so unless AI is ready (and I can help him of course), we may have to pass.

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Thanks for the tech fix guys!

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ER was definitely aware of it being down when he was on staff, just sayin'.

But yes, I was actually coming in here to ask about the next FTQ, myself. I believe we selected the Megiddo/AI setup?

The last I recall, I asked what setups we had submitted and got a bunch of crickets in response. That was in April, I think.

I definitely responded with what we had, FYI. u_u

I vote we change nothing.

@Council: Requesting kpaca be put on the probation list due to joining games, then immediately being forcibly replaced due to lack of posting for the past several times he has poked his head in to the sub.

Seconded.

I would accept kpaca serving time on probation for this reason.

I get the feeling he won't notice. He always leaves in a short amount of time.

So, I was looking through vote counts in Archer Mafia today while double-checking Mafia League scores, and I made a discovery with disturbing implications:

Apparently, deleted posts can still be viewed when you search for a user's posts in a thread. (They appear faded out with a "deleted" watermark.)

This shouldn't matter to players, because you shouldn't be deleting your posts unless the mod specifically allows you to do so. But moderators need to take note - partially because abilities that delete players' posts (such as the Annorax SK in Star Trek Expanded Universe) won't work until/unless this is fixed, but mostly because accidentally posting something you shouldn't in the thread (such as the premature EtR reveal in Survival Horror) just went from being something that can be fixed with a quick delete and possibly a replacement or two to being an irreparable mistake.

You can check this for yourself by searching scarbo's posts in Archer - you want the end of D2 scene where fulcrum flips. I've tested in the League Judge forum, the problem is reproducable.

Editing the post before deletion would be a fix, yes?

Yes. Edit the post and remove the content before you delete.
This is on the list of things for curse to fix.

Just tested and that does seem to work, so there *is* a workaround.

So mods, remember: unless/until this issue is fixed, if you make a post that you need to delete, remember to edit out anything that shouldn't be in the thread before you delete it.

EDIT: Sarnathed by admin!

I would like to nominate Niv for the probation list for chronic replacement. I really like the guy but he dropped out of all his games 2 years ago, resurfaced a couple of months back, completed a couple of games and then did a runner on Celestial and apparently on Pope as well. It'd be OK if this was the first time but it's like the 5th.

Seconded.

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I would like to nominate Niv for the probation list for chronic replacement. I really like the guy but he dropped out of all his games 2 years ago, resurfaced a couple of months back, completed a couple of games and then did a runner on Celestial and apparently on Pope as well. It'd be OK if this was the first time but it's like the 5th.

Added.

[The Family] Mafia clan is kind of dead lately.
Can I make a stickied add for it on this subforum to try and get more active members?

I would like to second Rhand's request.

Hmmm. I'd like to keep the number of stickies down so that it's easier for newcomers to navigate the sub - what d'ya think about converting and/or retiring the mafia theory and discussion thread, maybe making it a redirect to the clan thread, something like that?

Thereby repurposing the Clan thread into mafia theory and discussion?

I am totally okay with that. I will ask Eco and Rhand if we can have a permanent clan thread in lieu of trading in for a new one every 1000 posts like we have been.

Talk to the clans mods too, but I'm sure they'd appreciate the activity boost in the subforum.

Seems like a good idea.
Maybe I need to make a new clan thread first then and copy the important stuff that is in it into the first posts?

I'm down. Rhand, if you could go ahead and PM Eco and the Clans mods, add me to that PM so I can see what's up, and when it's decided upon, I will put a link in the Theory thread linking to the Clan thread. Sound good?

The Most Curious Thing has self-requested to be added to the probation list.

Additionally, he is handing in his Moderator hat. If anyone's interested in applying for the vacancy, feel free to drop a Mod Application in!

Is there really a need for a Second Mafia Mod at the moment? With activity being as low as it is I don't think it is needed. My 2 cents.

Come back soon TMCT!

It's only really needed for games I'm in, and Jay and Annorax have no problem poking their heads in for those times. That said, people should still feel free to try their hand!

What does being a mod entail?