I thought Charm wsa only supposed to respond in red if what Void said was a lie. That if Charm didnt respond than void's statements were correct. Or did I get that backwords. too many damn posts in this game to go look.
The way it worked, to my memory, was that void would post something in blue. If that statement was true, charm would NOT respond at all. If it was false, charm WOULD respond, in red, with a corrected statement.
If only I had waited I would have had a read on Dork Knight...
That read is that he's scum. Similar to the tell that the first person to mention an SK is scum, someone who says there's an SK despite mod-confirmation that there isn't is scum.
If only I had waited I would have had a read on Dork Knight...
That read is that he's scum. Similar to the tell that the first person to mention an SK is scum, someone who says there's an SK despite mod-confirmation that there isn't is scum.
Stop trying to weasel onto this Seppel campaign or I'll be demanding you be vigd.
Infinis in your next post claim.(unless I missed it)
Proph if he doesn't vig him in your next post after his.
And what do we get from a dead Infinis? Absolutely nothing. he has had no interactions what so ever. He is nothing more than low hanging fruit at this point. The Day vig needs to be used on someone that will actually be of use. Like Iso
This post hunt serves two purposes - to show why Arcadic has no (good) reason he's named for voting me, and to figure out whatever the hell it was that I saw that would have made Arcadic claim scum if he called Seppel scum a little bit ago.
Why would you leave the game if you can't find him, but not leave the game when 1. He gets kill after, 2 when you find him. Sense your claim is not making.
Good post here pointing out the flaw in Iso's stance.
Arcadic /barns Gricky's misrepresentation of my post regarding Megiddo early on.
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Hello, scum iso. Taking a page outta scum Shalako's meta are we?
First mention of me, during my telling DH to target me. Completely vague reference to Shalako (that I still don't understand) and just flat-out calls me scum with no reasoning behind it.
Vote Iso pandering for votes on meg based on 1 slip, paints me and gricky as tied because we have the same opinion on 1 post, isn't using a case on megs to push megs, is using his "case" on megs to push gricky.
And the vote. "Asking for votes based on 1 slip." So Arcadic admits it's a slip. When Megiddo or Arcadic flip scum, the other should be the next to go. "Paints me and Gricky as tied because we have the same opinion on 1 post." Given that Arcadic has some sort of personal vendetta against me (at least as far as Mafia goes) in just about every game we play together, his weak /barn of Gricky's post is not very comforting in regards to him supplying any reasoning at all for voting me, especially given that Gricky's argument was a complete misrepresentation of what I said, I deconstructed his argument soundly shortly thereafter. "Isn't using a case on Megs to push Megs." Despite, y'know, highlighting (at some point or another) exactly what I found scummy about Megiddo. "Is using his 'case' on Megs to push Gricky." A blatant lie - I was using Gricky's meta and the fact that he insisted on misrepresenting my posts as my case on Gricky. Megiddo had little to nothing to do with my push on Gricky, from what I recall.
Does it matter what i say? The question in itself is WIFOM. The only reason to respond to AI's post was he actually put a question in there relevant to the game. Its all a WIFOM gambit, if i ignore the alignment question, he can make baseless assumptions about me ignoring questions.
The question was a trap, no matter how i replied to it.
Previously, AI asked Arcadic if he was scum. Arcadic responded to the effect of, "Do you have a post restriction of fewer than 8 words or do you care to ask me a question I can actually answer?" This is a rather defensive reaction to a question he simply could have said "no" to. Why couldn't Arcadic just say "no"? WIFOM or not, that's a pretty clear answer. How is it "overly defensive" just to say "no"?
Because no matter how i reply it can be twisted into a scumtell. Like Iso taking one thing i said that parallels Gricky and calling us "tied". I could have said : Town. I could have said Town, how bout you? I could have said none of your beeswax. AI could have called any one of those reactions bad or overly defensive. What matters is why he wanted to ask such a question. The question is nothing but WIFOM, the scum's best tool. So why would town AI ask me a WIFOM-loaded question? To distract from something? To place doubt on me? I certainly can't think of any pro-town reasons for introducing WIFOM.
So again, overly defensive reaction (this time to Seppel) to a simple yes or no question. And then Arcadic smears me and tries to flip suspicion on to AI for AI asking if Arcadic is scum or not - what? Does anyone seriously believe that AI's intention was to introduce WIFOM? I feel like this is a panicked reaction to people piling questions on to Arcadic for his reluctance to answer. As for pro-town reasons for introducing WIFOM, that's a theory discussion - and also not relevant to the topic at hand, so I won't comment further on it.
Actually, if i replied i wasn't scum, it doesn't matter. But whatever, keep on believeing that this line of questioning doesn't produce anything but WIFOM.
But do explain how you replying that you weren't scum wouldn't matter. Because I'd really love to hear how that would be considered overly defensive.
Actually, I'm glad I found this exchange because it makes me question why you're even asking me this, Cy, seeing as we came to ask the same question, here. And I realize that Arcadic asking you if you were town was tongue-in-cheek, but if it's such a "WIFOM-inducing problem", why would he even humor making such a comment?
Arcadic encourages people not to engage me in huge walls of text. I'm not sure if this is because he doesn't want to read them or because he wants people to ignore me.
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Need a lynch?
Why not Voidberg?
And once again providing absolutely nothing of value to the discussion. I don't even remember the reason he stated for voting Void at this point. I'm gonna go look that up.
Way more interested in Void, he hasn't done anything but the above quote and that's a big gaping problem. He's also asking the claimed neutrals to "play the game" which as irony goes, its pretty deep. Ether he doesn't believe them to be neutrals or simply forgot or just trying to deflect attention wherever he can. I'll go with the last option there.
By "the above quote", he means Seppel's interpretation of Void's statement of "A, B, C, D, and E are scum, Vote F". While I understand this is a big reason people piled on to Void, I think the "gotcha!" may have been here - Arcadic is using Seppel's case as a crutch for his Void vote and if he had called him scum, well, that would have meant he was agreeing with a case made by someone he thought was scum, no? (I'll keep my eye open to see if there's anything else that catches it regarding this while I continue my Arcadic read.)
Iso's scumgame is to make people do his work for him, while he makes blanket statements without ever qualifying them.
Non-specific meta reference
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Again, typical Iso scumgame is to make baseless assumptions and use tiny evidence to tie people together and string up mislynches.
More non-specific meta reference
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He can't because he doesn't actually have any evidence towards anyone he's pushing. I mean, seriously, he switched his vote to Megs after blatantly calling Gricky out for "misreps". Town Iso just doesn't let things go.
More misrepresentation - I stopped my crusade against Gricky on Day 1 because no one was reading my posts. That doesn't mean I think he's any less scum - it means that I recognize a dead horse after beating it for so long. And "Town Iso just doesn't let things go." More non-specific meta reference.
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Iso proves things by speaking. Then someone writes it down and preeches it to the masses.
OH LOOKIE ANOTHER VOTE FROM ISO WITH ZERO REASONING, THATS CERTAINLY PRO TOWN ISO...
unvote vote Iso
My reasoning was AE's case on Wessel. At this stage, it looks like Arcadic is looking for any reason he can to plop his vote on me.
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So, you were creating huge walls about your other votes and defenses? Cause you made big walls with gricky and hardly voted him. Also, vote megs if you want megs lynched, not vote X because X has a wagon going.
I don't even know what to say to this. "Uh, yes?" Anyway, there's no sense in keeping my vote on someone who's not going to be lynched except to say "I told you so" later, so why wouldn't I move my vote to a viable scumspect that a productive wagon was developing on?
Its not the modgaming. I think Void is town due to his role. AI puts forward 3 different reasons and positions on Void, 1 which believes Void is the lynch, one that believes Void is town and one that tells us to lynch void because he is untrustworthy, (as far as i can tell, a baseless accusation)
If we all agree that Void going A B C D is scum, vote E, then AI representing 3 different stances on Void is just as scummy.
Another crap stance in that he calls Void town and scum in the same post. "I think Void is town due to his role..." "If we all agree that Void going A B C D is scum, Vote E...is just as scummy."
Wouldn't it be better to ensure we get a reply, so we know for sure there is no trickery?
Arcadic sets up Void to ask a stupid question to confirm that his ability "involves no trickery". After calling him scum. Then town. Them town. Then scum. Then town.
Seppel's pandering about Void possibly having another ability is also illogical without basis. Void was l-2 claimed, to assume he's lying about everything needs a case behind it, or its just pandering for a lynch without real evidence.
- Says the guy whose only stated reason for voting Void initially was Seppel's case.
No-one's interested in lynching the CC-er of the dead town? The CC-er that was so convienently RB'd? The cc-er that claimed a typical scum role, that is even more scummy now that Drey flipped town? The CC-er that was oh so scummy yesterday with his pushes?
Vote Iso.
"Iso CCed dead town." Well, so has dan, effectively. I don't see Arcadic pushing for dan's lynch. Except, wait! Apparently Arcadic has so many reasons to vote me! Let's summarize what those are now:
"Gricky pointed out a flawed stance in Iso's post." Proven wrong.
"Iso is acting like scum Shalako. Iso is scum." Anecdotal blanket statement with no support or behavioral analysis attached.
"The Megiddo stuff." Misreps my attack on Megiddo, and then later calls me out for not voting Megiddo.
"Tying me to Gricky." ...for agreeing with a blatant misrepresentation of my post. If Arcadic were reading the game like he claims to be, he wouldn't have tied himself to Gricky with his /barn.
"Iso is scum." Oh, okay.
"Anecdotal blanket meta statement." rofl
"Another anecdotal blanket meta statement." still rofl
"Has multiple scumspects" rofl?
"Yet another anecdotal blanket meta statement." good one, can't argue with that
"He /barned someone else's case and changed his vote to a wagon that was gaining votes." Oh, you mean like you /barned Seppel's case on Void and changed your vote to Void when my wagon wasn't gaining votes? So why is it okay for you to do it but not me?
Read any Iso game to show that as any alignment, Iso is not trustworthy.
There is no reason to state this other than to pander more votes to the Iso wagon - worth noting that he accused me of pandering votes to the Megiddo wagon and used it as one of his initial reasons to vote me.
Iso ragequit and OMGUS'd his way into being town? Please.
Pandering more votes for the Iso wagon.
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Almost positive Gricky and Audihno are scum with the way they are completely ignoring the Iso wagon.
Did you read ANY of Day 1? You know, where Gricky and I had this tremendous back and forth? Where we were voting for each other and basically said "**** it" because no one was paying attention to us because quotewall war? Yeah. The same person you tied yourself to with your first post. The same person that was probably the #1 pusher of my lynch on Day 1. Can this be explained as anything but failure to read?
So, your mad because you believe your case is bad but instead of defending against all the actions that painted you scummy, you rage and call the wagon idiots. Tell me again about how you are town?
And Arcadic once again demonstrates that he hasn't actually been reading my posts, because I'm sure I've made most of the argument deconstructions above already.
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Because Iso is the mafia grandmaster of all time and nothing he does can ever be explained, meta'd or talked about?
Ad hom.
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It is important to note here that g_d did the RIGHT thing and didn't cc the CC of iso day 1.
...which makes him town how?
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Already been noted, but Iso claimed rolecop, not tracker. I honestly cannot fathom why a townie Iso would CC there, Drey was already on the way to his grave.
Never explained why a scum Iso would CC there.
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Huge scumtell here. Iso is showing contempt for his wagon saying they are screwing themselves, not the town. Ergo, Iso is not town due to this statement. Afterall, how can the town shaft themselves and not shaft a townie Iso at the same time?
Because at that point I had such contempt for the inattention to detail in this game that I didn't care if I won or lost, but I figured that the rest of the town WOULD care if they lost. Since then, I've lost my apathy, but still wouldn't mind dying so much if someone actually substantiated something to push against me with - all I've seen so far is crap, and the analysis of my wagon had better be damn good if/when it happens.
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Valid how? That town Iso responds like this all the time? That scum Iso never responds like this? I can tell you that Iso did not react this way to his wagon in The Family Mafia, he pretty much rolled over and took it.
Cherry-picking my meta to twist the facts to paint me as scummy.
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Except that's not what you said. You said the people voting you were screwing themselves over, not you.
See above.
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I see no reason not to continue with Iso's lynch and if anyone has a good reason for us not to, now is the time. Iso going on leave at this time is certainly not going to disuade me from pushing this wagon, because Iso wants exactly that, for us to move on from wanting him lynched today.
"Iso is going away, so we should lynch him, after I've provided nothing but conjecture, blanket statements about his meta, and /barned a misrepresentation of one of his posts."
I'd think that ROLECOP would only be and information role if he's scum.
Baseless statement.
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How does drey's flip tell you the town is crammed with information roles and that information is key? Why are you dismissing every claimed information role as town when it is more than likely 1 information role is scum?
(hint : because Iso's scum)
I'm curious why Arcadic assumes that only 1 information role is scum. In addition, Arcadic is basing this post's push -
Day 1 you CC'd Drey because of a similarity in your roles, yet today every information role that has claimed is town, except gricky because your SOOOO positive that he's scum. That's a tell that you know more about this setup than you should, and that you know that the claims are coming from townies.
- on retrospective reasoning. When DRey claimed, I had no reason to believe his role was town because I'm Town Rolecop - I learn what people's abilities are and do. However, the synergy of the setup combination, with DRey's role, dan's role, and my role, makes sense to me NOW as the 3 of us having the information of "X used this ability on Y," and "Y was targeted by Z with this ability," since it creates a nice information three-piece whose roles all complement each other. I don't KNOW the claims are coming from townsfolk, but dan's ability, had it been revealed on Day 1, could have potentially prevented DRey's mislynch, and pointed to a sort of trifecta of our abilities.
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But your willing to push a modgaming stance on gricky if it suits your purpose, ie : a lynch on gricky.
Because with the DRey/g_d/Iso ability trifecta, it would make sense for the scum to have an information role of their own to collect our data with. It would be a little redundant to put the same 3 roles on the scum team, as well as bastardly, because DRey/g_d/Iso would have CCed them (as well as each other, apparently).
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A rolecop ability is far more useful ON SCUM as well.
So, we know DRey is town and dan has claimed his ability - which Arcadic, ironically, believes makes dan town. With 3 information roles specifically pertaining to abilities, in order to catch scum using said abilities, we would have to claim our results. Given that our abilities would then be outed, why would the scum need a Rolecop? In addition, this is why Gricky's ability makes sense on scum - he can collect the data of who knows what, report it to the scum, and then they can Daykill whoever catches them with Prophylaxis's Daykill. It's beautiful synergy.
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Iso has still failed to respond to my case today about why he is scum and instead has just OMGUS'd and deflected it away. Now he's calling every information role that has claimed or been claimed to exist town for no reason.
Why are you assuming the scum even HAVE a roleblocker? That's the problem, your so untrustworthy regardless of alignment we can't even trust that there is even a roleblocker in this game. In fact, we can't trust that your telling the truth about being roleblocked until a RB turns up dead.
Attempting to sow mistrust through meta-based WIFOM.
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This game is batty nuggets. Why would we daykill infinis when he's a much stronger player who the evidence against him is mostly : Lol lurker. Why don't we use the daykill as a 2nd lynch and oh idunno, have proph kill the person with the most votes on him. Or lets use it on the player that is scummy and would never be the target of a nightkill because of the level of scummy and interest in his lynch has generated today. You know, the one with lots of info that gets produced from his death from both his wagon, CC and attacks on half the game?
Daykilling Infinis would be the worst possible daykill. We gain zero information if he flips town. We have very little information to decern his alignment. Use the shot like a lynch, not as a russian roulette.
Misrep. Its a null tell and you know it. I'm saying its only less believable because of the complete lack of trust i have for both a town and a scum iso. Iso is not scum because he claimed to have been roleblocked, my case on him has zero to do with that claim.
If Arcadic's case on me has nothing to do with me being Roleblocked, why did he make it such an important point that I may or may not be lying about being Roleblocked? Oh right, because it's important for town not to generate WIFOM WAIT WHAT'S THAT? Another self-contradiction? Fantastic!
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You've proven to me that you don't care about lynching anyone who thinks your scum as well. There's a mafia word for that, its OMGUS, and you're bleeding it.
Which is why I think Tordeck is scum. And Cyouni is scum. And AE is scum. And Wheat_Grinder is scum.
Right?
...right?
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Why do you desperately want to know my opinion on THE CONFIRMED NEUTRAL??? What possible town motivation comes from asking my opinion of the CONFIRMED NEUTRAL??? Your only care is distracting, not scumhunting. You've done absoultely zero of that today, because OMGUS does not count. If you were town, you'd realize that relying on the neutral survivor to be unbiased and simply taking his word that hes' "townsiding" is the worst possible thing anyone could do today. Because Seppel isn't going to townside when there is a pile of town bodies and potentially 2-3 more going into day 3. Seppel only wants the game to end.
Ah, so I guess that was the "gotcha" with Arcadic had he called Seppel scum that I referenced earlier. Also, this is a total overreaction. The caps, the excess punctuation, the use of the word "desperately" in his portrayal of my question - which, by the way, is probably the first question of mine he's actually answered. It's good to know that my wagon analysis wasn't scumhunting, though! And I like the fearmongering he's trying to generate about Seppel's decision to townside.
Then there's more crap about meta, and his next two posts are "shoot Iso, don't trust Seppel".
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I have already fullclaimed. Hermione Granger, Town Research Witch, blah blah research a player's abilities in the restricted section of the magical library (Rolecop).
If you want the tl;dr version of the Arcadic stuff, look at the section in the middle with the block of text between two quoted posts with all the quotation marks.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Hey, don't evade the question and turn it around on us.
You gave these reads on these people:
Scum: Me, Infinis, Iso
Town: Guardman, Gricky, AE
(also yourself and seppel, but you don't need to explain those)
Can you give us something more specific than "solid play" as a town read and "dominating" as a scum read (iso has dominated just about every game I've seen him in)?
And while you're doing that, explain the other reads.
Remember when I asked you to provide reasons behind those reads?
Remember when seppel asked people to provide reasons with their reads?
If you don't, let me c/p those posts for you:
I keep getting distracted, and now I'm headed out for dinner, but I'll get mine up as soon as I get back.
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Cyouni - Leaning Town: His playing style screams ZDS. Deaths_Vampire: Where is he? GrickyTimmick - Leaning Town: Reasons explained Seppel - Neutral: Conf. Neutral Tordeck - Leaning Town: After some recent events I'm willing to call him townie for now. Arcadic: Not so sure on Arcadic. Every time he makes a post I agree with it and I am tempted to thank it then Iso comes and vandalizes it. AsianInvasion: Not trusting Seppel Archmage_Eternal - Leaning Town: I like his scumhunting. Wessel - Leaning Town: Day 1 reads yay Prophylaxis - Town: of course Iso - Leaning Scum: Reasons explained Audinho - Leaning Town: This is no The Office for sure Dork Knight - Leaning Town: Arnnaria was pretty townie. Infinis - Leaning Scum: His reactions seem weak. gan_dan: I really don't know. Wheat_Grinder: I will have to reread his latin posting style again. Megiddo - Leaning Scum: Get daykilled Meg xoxo <3 Prophy Guardman - Leaning Town: Proven vigilante, I agree with him
So why are people posting T/S lists? I've learned the hard way that T/S lists help the scum WAY more than they help the town. See the end of Trisk mafia, which Seppel modded and Iso was scum in. I pushed for T/S lists before the end of every day and at endgame, Iso revealed exactly how much those lists helped the town. The townies give their honest townie reads and the scum knows who to target based off of those reads. They NK every players consensus "Townie" player, or someone near the top to avoid role shenanigans.
That being said, Iso hasn't batted an eyelash at the T/S list idea. He used it to advantage as scum before and has displayed that he knows the dangers of T/S lists as town. So why is his response to T/S lists to just go along with everything? Especially when a T/S list is really unnecessary, the only information people want are the dayvig votes. We don't need a whole list.
BTW, my votes are still Iso, Seppel, AI and Aud in that order. I didn't have a fourth choice before, but Aud seems like a good direction.
Private Mod Note
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Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Who was that masked man anyway?
MTGSalvation: Now with more Drama than Season 5 of Supernatural!
Arcadic: Not so sure on Arcadic. Every time he makes a post I agree with it and I am tempted to thank it then Iso comes and vandalizes it. Iso - Leaning Scum: Reasons explained
Reconcile this.
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Guardman - Leaning Town: Proven vigilante, I agree with him
So why are people posting T/S lists? I've learned the hard way that T/S lists help the scum WAY more than they help the town. See the end of Trisk mafia, which Seppel modded and Iso was scum in. I pushed for T/S lists before the end of every day and at endgame, Iso revealed exactly how much those lists helped the town. The townies give their honest townie reads and the scum knows who to target based off of those reads. They NK every players consensus "Townie" player, or someone near the top to avoid role shenanigans.
That being said, Iso hasn't batted an eyelash at the T/S list idea. He used it to advantage as scum before and has displayed that he knows the dangers of T/S lists as town. So why is his response to T/S lists to just go along with everything? Especially when a T/S list is really unnecessary, the only information people want are the dayvig votes. We don't need a whole list.
Hey, remember when I asked who people wanted to die in Homestuck?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm Jhoira of the Ghitu, I suspend the first ability that targets a player. The ability still resolves but the following night. I targeted Guardman, who's logic has been keen this game.
I thought I was given a garbage role, then I thought I must be missing something. I've been trying to figure out a way to use as the ability as an investigation tool, but havent come up with anything.
Iso
Meg
Wheat - I WIFOM'd myself into thinking he was town and now not so sure
Audinho - Didn't like yesterdays hammer, language barrier defense no longer strong
I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm Jhoira of the Ghitu, I suspend the first ability that targets a player. The ability still resolves but the following night. I targeted Guardman, who's logic has been keen this game.
What logic? Really he's been tunneled and inhelpful. Think its time to die. But first...
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Saw Charm checking in. Did you already post your Daykill, Proph?
Also, please answer my question about how I'm leaning scum but I'm making you doubt your town read on Arcadic.
I don't have a town read on Arcadic - I read one of his posts, think "this guy makes a lot of sense" then you come and say "NOT READING GAME HDUALKJFS"
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I asked him to use it (specifically on D_V) but I dont think he did, unless that's why there was that one random flavorful VC from Charm and whoever he targeted is unkillable.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Sorry for beeing away for two days. I see stuff has happend.
1. Infinis is caught scum. His claim is clearly false as he has based his ability upon Jhoira the card and not Jhoira the character (an inventor..), whereas TorDecks claimed ability makes much more sense on Jhoira. Major town points to Archmage Eternal for pushing him to claim.
2. We should analyse not only Arcadic, but everyones interactions with Infinis. I know this day has dragged on, but now we've got some results and thus actually has something to work off. The day should pick up in entertainment-value.
3. I'm very interested in TorDeck getting confirmation on the Cyuoni-getting-thingy-thing. I might have input on the matter. Is it possible that we are unraveling scum by scum by scum? (Infinis - Cyuoni - D_V?)
4. Should I still be making a T/S-list? I don't know how helpful they are for town, but I like the way it got discussion back on track again. Very scummy behaviour from Arcadic and Dork neglecting to provide one.
5. This DayKill will hopefully show that scum does not have falseclaims. That Infinis claimed Jhoira instead of his real rolename potentially means that scum are "evil" characters, making claims very relevant.
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Void asked:
Charm responded:
That read is that he's scum. Similar to the tell that the first person to mention an SK is scum, someone who says there's an SK despite mod-confirmation that there isn't is scum.
Watch out Seppel might vote you next.
Whoa. What about your confirmed townie?
Good point. There was no need to bring it up in the first place. Theres nothing to go on. Stop.
We're getting nowhere. I'm tired of this.
Infinis in your next post claim.(unless I missed it)
Proph if he doesn't vig him in your next post after his.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Stop trying to weasel onto this Seppel campaign or I'll be demanding you be vigd.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
And what do we get from a dead Infinis? Absolutely nothing. he has had no interactions what so ever. He is nothing more than low hanging fruit at this point. The Day vig needs to be used on someone that will actually be of use. Like Iso
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So Arcadic starts his crusade against Seppel.
Arcadic /barns Gricky's misrepresentation of my post regarding Megiddo early on.
First mention of me, during my telling DH to target me. Completely vague reference to Shalako (that I still don't understand) and just flat-out calls me scum with no reasoning behind it.
And the vote. "Asking for votes based on 1 slip." So Arcadic admits it's a slip. When Megiddo or Arcadic flip scum, the other should be the next to go. "Paints me and Gricky as tied because we have the same opinion on 1 post." Given that Arcadic has some sort of personal vendetta against me (at least as far as Mafia goes) in just about every game we play together, his weak /barn of Gricky's post is not very comforting in regards to him supplying any reasoning at all for voting me, especially given that Gricky's argument was a complete misrepresentation of what I said, I deconstructed his argument soundly shortly thereafter. "Isn't using a case on Megs to push Megs." Despite, y'know, highlighting (at some point or another) exactly what I found scummy about Megiddo. "Is using his 'case' on Megs to push Gricky." A blatant lie - I was using Gricky's meta and the fact that he insisted on misrepresenting my posts as my case on Gricky. Megiddo had little to nothing to do with my push on Gricky, from what I recall.
Oh, okay. So he jumps on the low-hanging fruit of Void, instead. Might I also point out the fact that Arcadic wanted Dragonheart lynched, as well?
Then Arcadic gets into it with AI over a couple of posts, specifically regarding kpaca's ability. Of special note should be this post:
Previously, AI asked Arcadic if he was scum. Arcadic responded to the effect of, "Do you have a post restriction of fewer than 8 words or do you care to ask me a question I can actually answer?" This is a rather defensive reaction to a question he simply could have said "no" to. Why couldn't Arcadic just say "no"? WIFOM or not, that's a pretty clear answer. How is it "overly defensive" just to say "no"?
So again, overly defensive reaction (this time to Seppel) to a simple yes or no question. And then Arcadic smears me and tries to flip suspicion on to AI for AI asking if Arcadic is scum or not - what? Does anyone seriously believe that AI's intention was to introduce WIFOM? I feel like this is a panicked reaction to people piling questions on to Arcadic for his reluctance to answer. As for pro-town reasons for introducing WIFOM, that's a theory discussion - and also not relevant to the topic at hand, so I won't comment further on it.
Actually, I'm glad I found this exchange because it makes me question why you're even asking me this, Cy, seeing as we came to ask the same question, here. And I realize that Arcadic asking you if you were town was tongue-in-cheek, but if it's such a "WIFOM-inducing problem", why would he even humor making such a comment?
Arcadic encourages people not to engage me in huge walls of text. I'm not sure if this is because he doesn't want to read them or because he wants people to ignore me.
And once again providing absolutely nothing of value to the discussion.
By "the above quote", he means Seppel's interpretation of Void's statement of "A, B, C, D, and E are scum, Vote F". While I understand this is a big reason people piled on to Void, I think the "gotcha!" may have been here - Arcadic is using Seppel's case as a crutch for his Void vote and if he had called him scum, well, that would have meant he was agreeing with a case made by someone he thought was scum, no? (I'll keep my eye open to see if there's anything else that catches it regarding this while I continue my Arcadic read.)
Non-specific meta reference
More non-specific meta reference
More misrepresentation - I stopped my crusade against Gricky on Day 1 because no one was reading my posts. That doesn't mean I think he's any less scum - it means that I recognize a dead horse after beating it for so long. And "Town Iso just doesn't let things go." More non-specific meta reference.
Ad hom
My reasoning was AE's case on Wessel. At this stage, it looks like Arcadic is looking for any reason he can to plop his vote on me.
I don't even know what to say to this. "Uh, yes?" Anyway, there's no sense in keeping my vote on someone who's not going to be lynched except to say "I told you so" later, so why wouldn't I move my vote to a viable scumspect that a productive wagon was developing on?
Like I said...looking for any reason he can to keep his vote on me
Another crap stance in that he calls Void town and scum in the same post. "I think Void is town due to his role..." "If we all agree that Void going A B C D is scum, Vote E...is just as scummy."
Arcadic sets up Void to ask a stupid question to confirm that his ability "involves no trickery". After calling him scum. Then town. Them town. Then scum. Then town.
- Says the guy whose only stated reason for voting Void initially was Seppel's case.
"Iso CCed dead town." Well, so has dan, effectively. I don't see Arcadic pushing for dan's lynch. Except, wait! Apparently Arcadic has so many reasons to vote me! Let's summarize what those are now:
"Gricky pointed out a flawed stance in Iso's post." Proven wrong.
"Iso is acting like scum Shalako. Iso is scum." Anecdotal blanket statement with no support or behavioral analysis attached.
"The Megiddo stuff." Misreps my attack on Megiddo, and then later calls me out for not voting Megiddo.
"Tying me to Gricky." ...for agreeing with a blatant misrepresentation of my post. If Arcadic were reading the game like he claims to be, he wouldn't have tied himself to Gricky with his /barn.
"Iso is scum." Oh, okay.
"Anecdotal blanket meta statement." rofl
"Another anecdotal blanket meta statement." still rofl
"Has multiple scumspects" rofl?
"Yet another anecdotal blanket meta statement." good one, can't argue with that
"He /barned someone else's case and changed his vote to a wagon that was gaining votes." Oh, you mean like you /barned Seppel's case on Void and changed your vote to Void when my wagon wasn't gaining votes?
Let's continue with Arcadic's posts:
There is no reason to state this other than to pander more votes to the Iso wagon - worth noting that he accused me of pandering votes to the Megiddo wagon and used it as one of his initial reasons to vote me.
Pandering more votes for the Iso wagon.
And Arcadic once again demonstrates that he hasn't actually been reading my posts, because I'm sure I've made most of the argument deconstructions above already.
Ad hom.
...which makes him town how?
Never explained why a scum Iso would CC there.
Because at that point I had such contempt for the inattention to detail in this game that I didn't care if I won or lost, but I figured that the rest of the town WOULD care if they lost. Since then, I've lost my apathy, but still wouldn't mind dying so much if someone actually substantiated something to push against me with - all I've seen so far is crap, and the analysis of my wagon had better be damn good if/when it happens.
Cherry-picking my meta to twist the facts to paint me as scummy.
See above.
"Iso is going away, so we should lynch him, after I've provided nothing but conjecture, blanket statements about his meta, and /barned a misrepresentation of one of his posts."
Good reasoning!
Baseless statement.
I'm curious why Arcadic assumes that only 1 information role is scum. In addition, Arcadic is basing this post's push -
- on retrospective reasoning. When DRey claimed, I had no reason to believe his role was town because I'm Town Rolecop - I learn what people's abilities are and do. However, the synergy of the setup combination, with DRey's role, dan's role, and my role, makes sense to me NOW as the 3 of us having the information of "X used this ability on Y," and "Y was targeted by Z with this ability," since it creates a nice information three-piece whose roles all complement each other. I don't KNOW the claims are coming from townsfolk, but dan's ability, had it been revealed on Day 1, could have potentially prevented DRey's mislynch, and pointed to a sort of trifecta of our abilities.
Because with the DRey/g_d/Iso ability trifecta, it would make sense for the scum to have an information role of their own to collect our data with. It would be a little redundant to put the same 3 roles on the scum team, as well as bastardly, because DRey/g_d/Iso would have CCed them (as well as each other, apparently).
So, we know DRey is town and dan has claimed his ability - which Arcadic, ironically, believes makes dan town. With 3 information roles specifically pertaining to abilities, in order to catch scum using said abilities, we would have to claim our results. Given that our abilities would then be outed, why would the scum need a Rolecop? In addition, this is why Gricky's ability makes sense on scum - he can collect the data of who knows what, report it to the scum, and then they can Daykill whoever catches them with Prophylaxis's Daykill. It's beautiful synergy.
What case?
Attempting to sow mistrust through meta-based WIFOM.
"Don't kill our scumbuddy! Kill Iso!"
If Arcadic's case on me has nothing to do with me being Roleblocked, why did he make it such an important point that I may or may not be lying about being Roleblocked? Oh right, because it's important
for town not to generate WIFOMWAIT WHAT'S THAT? Another self-contradiction? Fantastic!Which is why I think Tordeck is scum. And Cyouni is scum. And AE is scum. And Wheat_Grinder is scum.
Right?
...right?
Ah, so I guess that was the "gotcha" with Arcadic had he called Seppel scum that I referenced earlier. Also, this is a total overreaction. The caps, the excess punctuation, the use of the word "desperately" in his portrayal of my question - which, by the way, is probably the first question of mine he's actually answered. It's good to know that my wagon analysis wasn't scumhunting, though! And I like the fearmongering he's trying to generate about Seppel's decision to townside.
Then there's more crap about meta, and his next two posts are "shoot Iso, don't trust Seppel".
Is that sufficient?
Love,
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@Iso: my god, that wall of text. Cliffnotes please?
I want Infinis and Iso to claim.
If you want the tl;dr version of the Arcadic stuff, look at the section in the middle with the block of text between two quoted posts with all the quotation marks.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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Remember when I asked you to provide reasons behind those reads?
Remember when seppel asked people to provide reasons with their reads?
If you don't, let me c/p those posts for you:
I keep getting distracted, and now I'm headed out for dinner, but I'll get mine up as soon as I get back.
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Cyouni - Leaning Town: His playing style screams ZDS.
Deaths_Vampire: Where is he?
GrickyTimmick - Leaning Town: Reasons explained
Seppel - Neutral: Conf. Neutral
Tordeck - Leaning Town: After some recent events I'm willing to call him townie for now.
Arcadic: Not so sure on Arcadic. Every time he makes a post I agree with it and I am tempted to thank it then Iso comes and vandalizes it.
AsianInvasion: Not trusting Seppel
Archmage_Eternal - Leaning Town: I like his scumhunting.
Wessel - Leaning Town: Day 1 reads yay
Prophylaxis - Town: of course
Iso - Leaning Scum: Reasons explained
Audinho - Leaning Town: This is no The Office for sure
Dork Knight - Leaning Town: Arnnaria was pretty townie.
Infinis - Leaning Scum: His reactions seem weak.
gan_dan: I really don't know.
Wheat_Grinder: I will have to reread his latin posting style again.
Megiddo - Leaning Scum: Get daykilled Meg xoxo <3 Prophy
Guardman - Leaning Town: Proven vigilante, I agree with him
That being said, Iso hasn't batted an eyelash at the T/S list idea. He used it to advantage as scum before and has displayed that he knows the dangers of T/S lists as town. So why is his response to T/S lists to just go along with everything? Especially when a T/S list is really unnecessary, the only information people want are the dayvig votes. We don't need a whole list.
BTW, my votes are still Iso, Seppel, AI and Aud in that order. I didn't have a fourth choice before, but Aud seems like a good direction.
Reconcile this.
You agree with him...on what?
Hey, remember when I asked who people wanted to die in Homestuck?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I thought I was given a garbage role, then I thought I must be missing something. I've been trying to figure out a way to use as the ability as an investigation tool, but havent come up with anything.
Iso
Meg
Wheat - I WIFOM'd myself into thinking he was town and now not so sure
Audinho - Didn't like yesterdays hammer, language barrier defense no longer strong
12-11? I'm losing track
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
What logic? Really he's been tunneled and inhelpful. Think its time to die. But first...
Speak up.
Phoph hold on a bit.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Vote Infinis - You have been counter claimed. I am the real Jhoira
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2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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No, because you were the better kill. Infinis without his terrible claim still would not have gotten us anything.
(and we still have a 2nd daykill floating around - I swear I am talking to myself over here)
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All this!
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Wait, walk me through this. He would know? Didn't Guardman say he thinks he will die tomororw? So what of that?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
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Hold on Proph. We need Dan to clarify here.
Well I guess the shot can still go through. But no votes afterward.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Also, please answer my question about how I'm leaning scum but I'm making you doubt your town read on Arcadic.
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Curse PremiumI don't have a town read on Arcadic - I read one of his posts, think "this guy makes a lot of sense" then you come and say "NOT READING GAME HDUALKJFS"
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also I have a problem believing that four people targeted me last night:
1. Whoever Infinis delayed.
2. Motivator/Deathivator
3. Cop
4. Infinis
Fire away.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
No prob. days still on.
Work with what?
Infinis delayed your kill? Or preformed the kill?
Lets go Dan! You have anything for us?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
1. The work with me was for my bad joke.
2. The death seems to be related to the motivation via the flavor I got so that seems unlikely.
3. As for performance I dunno.
Tordeck, care to weigh in? Does any of this make sense or am I way off base?
No need to be claiming anything. Just say I'm wrong. But is there a chance cyouni tried to kill Guardman?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
My power is to give one use items to other people. I was true to my word from D1 and gave Cy a 1 shot Day Kill.
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I feel the same way, but I too would like to know WTF is going on here.
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1. Infinis is caught scum. His claim is clearly false as he has based his ability upon Jhoira the card and not Jhoira the character (an inventor..), whereas TorDecks claimed ability makes much more sense on Jhoira. Major town points to Archmage Eternal for pushing him to claim.
2. We should analyse not only Arcadic, but everyones interactions with Infinis. I know this day has dragged on, but now we've got some results and thus actually has something to work off. The day should pick up in entertainment-value.
3. I'm very interested in TorDeck getting confirmation on the Cyuoni-getting-thingy-thing. I might have input on the matter. Is it possible that we are unraveling scum by scum by scum? (Infinis - Cyuoni - D_V?)
4. Should I still be making a T/S-list? I don't know how helpful they are for town, but I like the way it got discussion back on track again. Very scummy behaviour from Arcadic and Dork neglecting to provide one.
5. This DayKill will hopefully show that scum does not have falseclaims. That Infinis claimed Jhoira instead of his real rolename potentially means that scum are "evil" characters, making claims very relevant.
Damnation studios!
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Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
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He allready did, Wessel. Pay attention
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually