Alignments. Iso had been my major scum read, and when Tilde flipped scum, I lost my orientation. Hence why I need to reread and figure out what's going on.
Alignments. Iso had been my major scum read, and when Tilde flipped scum, I lost my orientation. Hence why I need to reread and figure out what's going on.
You do realize on multiple occasions that Iso state he confirmed GD (now Tezz) as town?
how is it that you haven't read the game during the night phase?
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I am Cyan, Town Stubborn Multivoter, and my abilities WERE (until Iso removed my ability to gain extra votes :c)
that if I placed a vote on my first post of the Day, AND didn't change that vote throughout the Day, I'd permanently gain an extra vote at the end of the Day.
I am Cyan, Town Stubborn Multivoter, and my abilities WERE (until Iso removed my ability to gain extra votes :c)
that if I placed a vote on my first post of the Day, AND didn't change that vote throughout the Day, I'd permanently gain an extra vote at the end of the Day.
I thought you were a triple voter after what happened to Tilde.
This is a no brainer for me.
I usually figure 3 scum in a 12 player game. You were confirmed after the Tilde lynch (no way scum would use that ability to lynch there scum buddy in lylo). After Iso flip Tezz was confirmed there.
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I thought you were a triple voter after what happened to Tilde.
This is a no brainer for me.
I usually figure 3 scum in a 12 player game. You were confirmed after the Tilde lynch (no way scum would use that ability to lynch there scum buddy in lylo). After Iso flip Tezz was confirmed there.
It's a pity that you're scum, and use asking questions of other players as a shield for the fact that you don't want to point fingers at anyone.
Saying "god dammit I would like to have become a superdoc" implies that you wholeheartedly believe Archonoid to be scum.
Have you said ANYTHING to that extent all game, hmm?
Want to just claim scum right now?
Well, I was waiting until the mass claim had finished, which I suppose it now has. The only logical scum team is Pinky's Brain and Archonoid. Iso coming up town confirms Tetris, and I'm prepared to bank that scum WoD doesn't triple vote his scum buddy to death yesterday. Also, scum without an apparently repeatable triple vote is so beyond broken - if you're scum, you auto-win.
Therefore, the scum team seems pretty obvious. So, yeah, I wholeheartedly believe Archonoid (and Pinky's Brain) to be scum based on some pretty simple PoE. So yeah, it wouldn't have been that difficult for you to have a little patience and power me up.
Pretty sure that's a town loss right there. Unless there are fewer scum than I thought, or my role has some kind of surprise that even I didn't know about.
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You do realize on multiple occasions that Iso state he confirmed GD (now Tezz) as town?
Good point. Tezz is therefore confirmed.
how is it that you haven't read the game during the night phase?
I prefer to use night phases to focus on my other games. Not that any of that likely matters now.
Not Voting (4): pinkys_brain, MzztrTetris, Ecophagy, Archonoid
Archonoid has been lynched.
Kpaca, a vanilla townie? Impossible!
Flavorgamed to death, Archonoid, Kpaca, vanilla townie has been lynched and forgotten.
With enough sane thoughts gone, MzztrTetris, Cyan, vanilla townie with a HORRIBLE POSTING RESTRICTION, and Wrath_of_DoG, Cyan, town stubborn voter, are no match for pinkys_brain, DYH, mafia untargetable self-watcher, and Ecophagy, Seppel, mafia ANYTHING.
With nothing to stop the balance of mafia games, the next game started like this:
I could not have won this game had it not been for the support of:
Iso: Thank for always being crazy
WoD: For believing in me because when I'm town I'm smart and under rated.
For Tezz: Who think meta should be enough to determine aligments
And special thanks to Eco for keeping up with me and having no fear in my desire to attack him a bit and our exchanges in the game.
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You are Cyan, town unlynchable unkillable miller vigilante.
You are the most amazing role in the history of roles.
* You can vote.
* You cannot be lynched.
* You cannot be nightkilled.
* Any alignment investigation on you will show you as MAFIA.
* Each night, you may target someone to kill.
This role is so amazing that nobody will ever believe it. Ever. So the following things will happen if you try to get
people to believe you:
* If you claim that you are unlynchable, you will immediately become lynchable for the rest of the game.
* If you claim that you are unkillable, you will immediately become nightkillable for the rest of the game.
* If you claim that you are a miller, you will appear on the player list in red with the title "Mafia Goon."
* If you claim that you are a vig, you will immediately lose your ability to nightkill, and everyone else will gain the
ability to daykill you.
Even hinting at an aspect of your role counts as claiming. If you are unsure, PM the moderator.
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-T2-
WRATH_OF_DOG - TOWN
You are Cyan, town stubborn voter.
You are so sure of who is scum. Always. And you never random vote. So your vote power will increase each time you are
stubborn.
* You can vote.
* If you place a vote on your first post of a day and NEVER UNVOTE OR CHANGE YOUR VOTE FOR THE REST OF THE DAY, you will
receive an additional vote for the rest of the game.
** These additional votes are cumulative, so if you do this for two days, you will have THREE votes. If you do it for
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-T3-
ARCADIC - TOWN
You are Cyan, town Jack of all Trades.
You have played countless mafia games, and now you know every role there is under the sun.
Day Abilities:
* You can vote.
* You are a one-shot triple-voter. [Use anytime during the Day. "Vote <name>, Vote <name>, vote <name>." You cannot
double-vote.]
Twilight Abilities:
* You are a one-shot twilight census-taker. [Use anytime during twilight. PM me.]
Night Abilities:
* You are a one-shot cop.
* You are a one-shot doc.
* You are a one-shot hider.
* You are a one-shot watcher.
* You are a one-shot tracker.
* You are a one-shot roleblocker.
* You are a one-shot redirector.
* You are a one-shot jailor.
* You are a one-shot bodyguard.
* You are a one-shot untargetable townie.
** You may use only one of these per night.
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-T4-
ILORD - TOWN
You are Cyan, town 100-Post Abilitycop.
Cyan posts a lot. And when he posts a lot, he gets answers. So here's how it goes:
* You can vote.
* Once per night, you may investigate a player, but only if you have at least 100 more total posts than that player. You
will learn every ability that player has, except mafia-related abilities.
** For replacements, the postcount of a role includes all players of that role.
** Remember to obey the MTGS rules against spamming. Triple-posting will negatively affect your ability.
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
[MODNOTE: If used on -T1-, does not relay "Any investigations on you will show you as MAFIA."]
[MODNOTE: If used on -M1-, does not relay "Each night, you may target someone to kill, and choose someone in the mafia
to make that kill. If you die, this ability will be passed on to DYH, then Seppel." or "Any investigations on you will
show you as town."]
-T5-
CYOUNI - TOWN
You are Cyan, town suicidal vote-donator.
As Cyan, you die a lot. You get lynched a lot. You get killed Night 1 a lot.
So now you can show them all by suiciding before they get to you, with the benefit of passing on your vote.
* You can vote.
* You can PM the moderator at any time, saying that you want to suicide and who you want to give your vote to. That
player will gain an additional vote for the rest of the game. You may not post after you send your PM or else you will
be modkilled. Your alignment and role will not be revealed if you suicide.
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-M1-
~TILDE~ - MAFIA (WITH PINKYS_BRAIN AND ECOPHAGY)
You are Cyan, mafia godfather cop.
You're a MAFIA Cop? Certainly your role can't be anything but town regardless of ANYTHING.
So let's sweeten the deal. You're a rolecop instead. And you can kill at the same time.
* You can vote.
* Each night, you may target a player, and you will receive that player's full role PM.
* Each night, you may target someone to kill, and choose someone in the mafia to make that kill. If you die, this
ability will be passed on to DYH, then Seppel.
* Any investigations on you will show you as town.
Win condition: The number of mafia-aligned players must be greater than or equal to the number of non-mafia-aligned
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-M3-
ECOPHAGY - MAFIA (WITH PINKYS_BRAIN AND ~TILDE~)
You are Seppel, mafia ANYTHING.
You can claim anything about yourself and it'll be true. Abilities, votes, you name it. And if you want to change your
mind, just say that you're really something else!
* You can vote.
* You can claim anything in BOLD TEXT and it'll immediately come true... with a few limits:
** You CANNOT claim any killing role.
** You CANNOT claim any day abilities or anything that can give you day abilities.
** You CANNOT claim any vote manipulation abilities, including but not limited to adding votes, removing votes, changing
votes, and modifying lynch thresholds.
** You CANNOT claim anything that will remove people from voting for you or make it so the town cannot lynch you.
** You CANNOT change your alignment.
*** You can still claim anything that you cannot claim, it just won't come true.
Win Condition: The number of mafia-aligned players must be greater than or equal to the number of non-mafia-aligned
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
MAFIA FALSECLAIMS:
-Falseclaim 1-
You are Seppel, self-protecting superdoc VANILLA TOWNIE.
You think you're always right, huh? Well, then prove it and you can be a power role.
* You can vote.
* If a mafia-aligned player is lynched and you are on the vote, you become a self-protecting doc.
* If a second mafia-aligned player is lynched and you are on the vote again, you become a self-protecting doc who can
protect another player as well.
* If a townie is lynched and you are on the vote, you become vanilla again.
After seeing Arch's claim, I would have definitely known that pinky and Eco were the scum team. Eco was definitely scum after Anak flipped town, but jesus christ, baseless reads my ass. I had Tilde pegged from the beginning of Day 1.
Also, I wasn't a 50-50 cop.
I would like to see the spectator thread on this game and the other one as well.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
After seeing Arch's claim, I would have definitely known that pinky and Eco were the scum team. Eco was definitely scum after Anak flipped town, but jesus christ, baseless reads my ass. I had Tilde pegged from the beginning of Day 1.
Also, I wasn't a 50-50 cop.
I would like to see the spectator thread on this game and the other one as well.
I was hopping that Eco would have used the fake claim of Seppel for WIFOM reasons but it worked out in the end.
You still me?
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After seeing Arch's claim, I would have definitely known that pinky and Eco were the scum team. Eco was definitely scum after Anak flipped town, but jesus christ, baseless reads my ass. I had Tilde pegged from the beginning of Day 1.
Also, I wasn't a 50-50 cop.
I would like to see the spectator thread on this game and the other one as well.
I'd like to point out that you a) lied about being a cop and b) had several INCORRECT reads (SO, ILord, Pinky, Archonoid)
After seeing Arch's claim, I would have definitely known that pinky and Eco were the scum team. Eco was definitely scum after Anak flipped town, but jesus christ, baseless reads my ass. I had Tilde pegged from the beginning of Day 1.
Pfft. your reads were baseless not because they were incorrect, but because they were UNSUPPORTED.
You were never going to get Tilde lynched, the way you went about it.
And for the same reasons, you were never going to prevent Arcadic's lynch.
I'd like to point out that you a) lied about being a cop and b) had several INCORRECT reads (SO, ILord, Pinky, Archonoid)
After Anak flipped town and pinky's claim, I knew she was scum. What does me lying about being a cop have to do with how accurate my reads were? And I was right about Some One being town, that's why I unvoted him. I also stopped believing iLord to be scum, so no, pretty sure my reads were fair this game.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I have to say, I love the setup for the game. I really enjoy that I was basically a claim-miller - no one believed that kpaca could really be a VT role!
Your ineffectual arguments against Tilde were the reason that he lived so long.
So, rather than saying "I GOT TILDE LYNCHED!"
you should be saying "I STOPPED TILDE GETTING LYNCHED FOR AAAGES"!
I feel like your role was seeping into your brain just a little there during the game. Though I'm glad you FINALLY saw reason and hammered Tilde. I also feel like your personal dislike for me and the way I play the game was part of the reason why Tilde lived so long. For the record, I had no intention of dissuading people from Arcadic's lynch, as the reason I knew Arcadic was town was the same reason I knew Tilde was scum. The reason I made it clear that I didn't want him lynched was to boost my own credibility and have people in the game, such as you, for example, to take a step back, look at what happened, and realize, "Hey, maybe Iso ISN'T just an insane ****ing idiot."
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I feel like your role was seeping into your brain just a little there during the game. Though I'm glad you FINALLY saw reason and hammered Tilde. I also feel like your personal dislike for me and the way I play the game was part of the reason why Tilde lived so long. For the record, I had no intention of dissuading people from Arcadic's lynch, as the reason I knew Arcadic was town was the same reason I knew Tilde was scum. The reason I made it clear that I didn't want him lynched was to boost my own credibility and have people in the game, such as you, for example, to take a step back, look at what happened, and realize, "Hey, maybe Iso ISN'T just an insane ****ing idiot."
Your constant baseless defense of Arcadic is what made me doubt your towniness, and it probably made me want to lynch him even more.
I don't listen to statements that have zero reasoning behind them, or people who make sweeping statements without showing their reasoning.
Think of it this way.
In a maths exam, 9/10 marks for every question are for showing your working, whether or not you end up with the correct answer.
The correct answer is worth only 10% of the points - the other 90% is from showing exactly how you came to that conclusion.
So, your statements about arcadic got you 1/10 marks from me.
You don't show your working, are completely arrogant and insufferable whenever you happen to be right, and it gets my heckles up NO END.
Clearly, you do know what you're talking about, to some extent, since you did pin Tilde down, but just finding scum is not all mafia is about.
You need to be able to convince the rest of the players that your scumspects are actually scum, with facts, quotes, or at the very least, more than you used in this game.
I hope that's a bit more clear about exactly what I, and every single other player in this game, find incredibly frustrating about playing with you.
In regards to the Iso comments:
I think what drives people crazy with Iso is when you say X is scum and with Tilde I got what you were saying but day after day nothing changed or added to reason's why he was scum.
As for Arcadic when asked why he was town and just stating Meta as a reason with no back up is pretty much just a baseless comment.
It means absolutely nothing.
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Your constant baseless defense of Arcadic is what made me doubt your towniness, and it probably made me want to lynch him even more.
I don't listen to statements that have zero reasoning behind them, or people who make sweeping statements without showing their reasoning.
Think of it this way.
In a maths exam, 9/10 marks for every question are for showing your working, whether or not you end up with the correct answer.
The correct answer is worth only 10% of the points - the other 90% is from showing exactly how you came to that conclusion.
So, your statements about arcadic got you 1/10 marks from me.
You don't show your working, are completely arrogant and insufferable whenever you happen to be right, and it gets my heckles up NO END.
Clearly, you do know what you're talking about, to some extent, since you did pin Tilde down, but just finding scum is not all mafia is about.
You need to be able to convince the rest of the players that your scumspects are actually scum, with facts, quotes, or at the very least, more than you used in this game.
I hope that's a bit more clear about exactly what I, and every single other player in this game, find incredibly frustrating about playing with you.
/superbarn this.
The thing is, Iso, even if you had incredible supernatural scum-catching powers, that's useless unless we have a reason to trust you. Blindly trusting you every game is a self-evidently terrible approach, because then Scum-Iso will run circles around us. So you have to give us a reason to trust you in each game; and the best reason to trust is a well-reasoned argument.
Mindless repetition of last four posts. I honestly stopped bothering with trying to read either of you because I have no desire to read stupid slapfights.
I think it boiled down to the fact you WEREN'T a townie that seemed hellbent on shooting the town in the foot. Which pretty much describes most of the play this game.
I mean, I did try to present compelling evidence, but how do you PROVE someone's mindset to another player? That's all I had against Tilde, but all I felt I needed to know he was scum. I figured I would earn the town's trust by removing their negative abilities, like g_d's PR and WoD's vote restriction, as well as being completely open about my ability after WoD called me out for trying to use it on him. I don't see how my mindset could have been construed as anything but pro-town, especially when I agreed that I would be taking the town's opinion into heavy consideration when using my ability.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
After seeing Arch's claim, I would have definitely known that pinky and Eco were the scum team. Eco was definitely scum after Anak flipped town, but jesus christ, baseless reads my ass. I had Tilde pegged from the beginning of Day 1.
Also, I wasn't a 50-50 cop.
I would like to see the spectator thread on this game and the other one as well.
I didn't think you were a cop, but I couldn't be sure enough to let you live. Turns out, we made the correct decision for totally unexpected reasons - I wasn't expecting WoD to make things so simple.
Also, you called most of the game scum at some point or another: being right on one of them isn't that wonderful an achievement. I'm still not sure that your initial read on Tilde came from anything other than Tilde's traditional madness.
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I figured I would earn the town's trust by removing their negative abilities, like g_d's PR and WoD's vote restriction, as well as being completely open about my ability after WoD called me out for trying to use it on him
FTR, this is exactly what scum with the same ability would probably do. It's not a huge deficit to the scum team to remove restrictions (especially if they have a role cop like we did), and it's a really easy way of getting town cred. I know you're smart enough to play it like that as mafia, anyway - I wouldn't have trusted you just from it.
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Cool game Seppel, thanks for hosting it
I think the mafia just played better than the town. Neither side had an overwhelming advantage, we just got ahead and stayed there - it wasn't that bad a town performance overall.
This is probably worth a chuckle (the line of *'s are me cursing):
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YOU LET MET PUT THAT MUCH WORK INTO GETTING ALL THESE QUOTES
HOURS AND HOURS OF READING CYAN'S EVERSPEWING CYNICISM & DRY WIT
PLAYERS I'VE NEVER HEARD OF AND WILL NEVER SEE AGAIN
WITH NO ACTUAL BENEFIT
AND ISO CAN JUST LIFT IT OFF? WITHOUT BEING PROMPTED?
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lolololololol totally forgot about that role.
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You're a sadist.
Having not checked MTGS in about a month, this is probably the best thing to receive upon my return.
Now to try and spectate...
I'm just going to quote Cyan, as opposed to copy/pasting him. That seems a much more... fair way of doing it.
Are you really going to check every post I/the other person makes against 20,000+ Cyan posts to see if I actually copy/pasted it without a quote?
Yea.
I have been for Game A.
Seems like a lot of work. I should've been given a multicop or something though, that was awful. I have over 4 pages of quotes pulled up from all his games through 2009.
Iso, ever the generous soul! No wonder he's related to you, Seppel... wait
Also, I played like a lazy, hot, steaming pile of garbage. Somehow I've been bothered to reread a game twice as long as this that is still on d1, as well as 2 other players' posts that are doing a full reread. Maybe it was all the effort put into the role going to waste, maybe it was just a busy time of year, maybe it was being unsure of what to really expect, maybe everything I've just typed out is bull****.
Sorry, again. I feel awful about the way I left this game (unlike my Hetalia exit, where I just had 0 motivation to play), and I think a big part of our loss is on our shoulders, when I was basically confirmed town, especially after Iso flipped.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Did you still think after Tilde's flip that Iso was scum? If so why???
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What did you mean here then?
What do you have no idea about?
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Vote Archonoid, Vote Archonoid, Vote Archonoid.
Ecophagy or Pinky is next.
Probably Eco.
You do realize on multiple occasions that Iso state he confirmed GD (now Tezz) as town?
how is it that you haven't read the game during the night phase?
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You could have at least gave me the satisfacation of trapping scum.
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I am Cyan, Town Stubborn Multivoter, and my abilities WERE (until Iso removed my ability to gain extra votes :c)
that if I placed a vote on my first post of the Day, AND didn't change that vote throughout the Day, I'd permanently gain an extra vote at the end of the Day.
God Dammit, I would like to become a super doc
I thought you were a triple voter after what happened to Tilde.
This is a no brainer for me.
I usually figure 3 scum in a 12 player game. You were confirmed after the Tilde lynch (no way scum would use that ability to lynch there scum buddy in lylo). After Iso flip Tezz was confirmed there.
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Saying "god dammit I would like to have become a superdoc" implies that you wholeheartedly believe Archonoid to be scum.
Have you said ANYTHING to that extent all game, hmm?
Want to just claim scum right now?
Well, I was waiting until the mass claim had finished, which I suppose it now has. The only logical scum team is Pinky's Brain and Archonoid. Iso coming up town confirms Tetris, and I'm prepared to bank that scum WoD doesn't triple vote his scum buddy to death yesterday. Also, scum without an apparently repeatable triple vote is so beyond broken - if you're scum, you auto-win.
Therefore, the scum team seems pretty obvious. So, yeah, I wholeheartedly believe Archonoid (and Pinky's Brain) to be scum based on some pretty simple PoE. So yeah, it wouldn't have been that difficult for you to have a little patience and power me up.
Good point. Tezz is therefore confirmed. I prefer to use night phases to focus on my other games. Not that any of that likely matters now.
Archonoid (3): Wrath_of_DoG, Wrath_of_DoG, Wrath_of_DoG
Not Voting (4): pinkys_brain, MzztrTetris, Ecophagy, Archonoid
Archonoid has been lynched.
Kpaca, a vanilla townie? Impossible!
Flavorgamed to death, Archonoid, Kpaca, vanilla townie has been lynched and forgotten.
With enough sane thoughts gone, MzztrTetris, Cyan, vanilla townie with a HORRIBLE POSTING RESTRICTION, and Wrath_of_DoG, Cyan, town stubborn voter, are no match for pinkys_brain, DYH, mafia untargetable self-watcher, and Ecophagy, Seppel, mafia ANYTHING.
With nothing to stop the balance of mafia games, the next game started like this:
The face of mafia games has been changed forever, and the new face is covered with impossibilities coming true.
Congratulations to ~Tilde~, Pinkys_Brain, and Ecophagy for a Mafia Win!
The game is over. All players and spectators may chat in the thread now.
And now you know
:banana::banana::banana:
I could not have won this game had it not been for the support of:
Iso: Thank for always being crazy
WoD: For believing in me because when I'm town I'm smart and under rated.
For Tezz: Who think meta should be enough to determine aligments
And special thanks to Eco for keeping up with me and having no fear in my desire to attack him a bit and our exchanges in the game.
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
Also known at mafiascum as farside22
Iso permablocks Dan's PR [SUCCESS]
Some One becomes killable
Arcadic kills Some One [SUCCESS]
N1
WoD gains double-vote
pinky kills iLord [SUCCESS]
Anaklusmos investigates Iso [TOWN]
iLord abilitycops Archonoid [YOU ARE DEAD]
Tilde rolecops Cyouni [SUCCESS]
D2
Iso permablocks WoD's claim [FAILURE]
N2
WoD gains triple-vote
pinky kills Cyouni [SUCCESS]
Tilde rolecops WoD [SUCCESS]
D3
Iso permablocks WoD's claim [SUCCESS]
N3
pinky kills Iso
D4
Mafia win.
=================
Role PMs:
SOME ONE - TOWN
You are Cyan, town unlynchable unkillable miller vigilante.
You are the most amazing role in the history of roles.
* You can vote.
* You cannot be lynched.
* You cannot be nightkilled.
* Any alignment investigation on you will show you as MAFIA.
* Each night, you may target someone to kill.
This role is so amazing that nobody will ever believe it. Ever. So the following things will happen if you try to get
people to believe you:
* If you claim that you are unlynchable, you will immediately become lynchable for the rest of the game.
* If you claim that you are unkillable, you will immediately become nightkillable for the rest of the game.
* If you claim that you are a miller, you will appear on the player list in red with the title "Mafia Goon."
* If you claim that you are a vig, you will immediately lose your ability to nightkill, and everyone else will gain the
ability to daykill you.
Even hinting at an aspect of your role counts as claiming. If you are unsure, PM the moderator.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-T2-
WRATH_OF_DOG - TOWN
You are Cyan, town stubborn voter.
You are so sure of who is scum. Always. And you never random vote. So your vote power will increase each time you are
stubborn.
* You can vote.
* If you place a vote on your first post of a day and NEVER UNVOTE OR CHANGE YOUR VOTE FOR THE REST OF THE DAY, you will
receive an additional vote for the rest of the game.
** These additional votes are cumulative, so if you do this for two days, you will have THREE votes. If you do it for
three days, you will have FOUR votes. And so on.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-T3-
ARCADIC - TOWN
You are Cyan, town Jack of all Trades.
You have played countless mafia games, and now you know every role there is under the sun.
Day Abilities:
* You can vote.
* You are a one-shot triple-voter. [Use anytime during the Day. "Vote <name>, Vote <name>, vote <name>." You cannot
double-vote.]
Twilight Abilities:
* You are a one-shot twilight census-taker. [Use anytime during twilight. PM me.]
Night Abilities:
* You are a one-shot cop.
* You are a one-shot doc.
* You are a one-shot hider.
* You are a one-shot watcher.
* You are a one-shot tracker.
* You are a one-shot roleblocker.
* You are a one-shot redirector.
* You are a one-shot jailor.
* You are a one-shot bodyguard.
* You are a one-shot untargetable townie.
** You may use only one of these per night.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-T4-
ILORD - TOWN
You are Cyan, town 100-Post Abilitycop.
Cyan posts a lot. And when he posts a lot, he gets answers. So here's how it goes:
* You can vote.
* Once per night, you may investigate a player, but only if you have at least 100 more total posts than that player. You
will learn every ability that player has, except mafia-related abilities.
** For replacements, the postcount of a role includes all players of that role.
** Remember to obey the MTGS rules against spamming. Triple-posting will negatively affect your ability.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
[MODNOTE: If used on -T1-, does not relay "Any investigations on you will show you as MAFIA."]
[MODNOTE: If used on -M1-, does not relay "Each night, you may target someone to kill, and choose someone in the mafia
to make that kill. If you die, this ability will be passed on to DYH, then Seppel." or "Any investigations on you will
show you as town."]
-T5-
CYOUNI - TOWN
You are Cyan, town suicidal vote-donator.
As Cyan, you die a lot. You get lynched a lot. You get killed Night 1 a lot.
So now you can show them all by suiciding before they get to you, with the benefit of passing on your vote.
* You can vote.
* You can PM the moderator at any time, saying that you want to suicide and who you want to give your vote to. That
player will gain an additional vote for the rest of the game. You may not post after you send your PM or else you will
be modkilled. Your alignment and role will not be revealed if you suicide.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-T6-
ISO - TOWN
You are Cyan, town impossible-perma-roleblocker.
You call things impossible. So now you can make them impossible.
* You can vote.
* Once per day whenever someone makes an ability claim, you can say that claim is impossible in BOLD TEXT. If you do,
that player loses that ability permanently. That player will be informed in PM, regardless of whether or not s/he was
telling the truth or not.
Win Condition: You have the standard town win condition. But you do not know it.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
[MODNOTE: If used on -T1- (Cyan, town unlynchable unkillable miller vig), then -T1- will have his/her consequences for
claiming reversed.)]
[MODNOTE: If used on -T3- (Cyan, town Jack of all Trades) and -T3- claimed JoaT, then -T3- will lose all abilities,
regardless of any individual abilities claimed.]
[MODNOTE: Will revoke the ability to vote if used on the claim of being able to vote.]
-T7-
GANDERIN_DAN - TOWN
You are Cyan, vanilla townie with a HORRIBLE POSTING RESTRICTION.
Cyan hates posting restrictions. However, is it really a posting restriction if you can say nearly anything?
Cyan has almost 20,000 posts on MTGS. The only way you may post is by copying and pasting a single post made by Cyan on
MTGS. This includes voting and unvoting. You cannot cut out parts of posts - you must use the entire post.
Here is Cyan's profile, for reference: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/member.php?u=503
The search function is your friend. A list of Cyan's games is in the signup thread.
* You may only post full posts that Cyan has posted before.
* You may vote, but only if you paste a full post where Cyan has voted that person before.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-T8-
ANAKLUSMOS - TOWN
You are Cyan, town naive cop.
Your vast mafia experience tells you that it is impossible for naive cops to exist in a game without other cop roles as
well.
* You can vote.
* You are a cop. You will always receive the result of "town."
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
[MODNOTE: If used on -T1- with miller status on (replacement effect), will return "MAFIA."]
-T9-
ARCHONOID - TOWN
You are Kpaca, vanilla townie.
No flavor, just a vanilla townie.
* You can vote.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-M1-
~TILDE~ - MAFIA (WITH PINKYS_BRAIN AND ECOPHAGY)
You are Cyan, mafia godfather cop.
You're a MAFIA Cop? Certainly your role can't be anything but town regardless of ANYTHING.
So let's sweeten the deal. You're a rolecop instead. And you can kill at the same time.
* You can vote.
* Each night, you may target a player, and you will receive that player's full role PM.
* Each night, you may target someone to kill, and choose someone in the mafia to make that kill. If you die, this
ability will be passed on to DYH, then Seppel.
* Any investigations on you will show you as town.
Win condition: The number of mafia-aligned players must be greater than or equal to the number of non-mafia-aligned
players.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Mafia Quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iQxf9Nir6uGx
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-M2-
PINKYS_BRAIN - MAFIA (WITH ~TILDE~ AND ECOPHAGY)
You are DYH, mafia untargetable self-watcher.
What a great scumbuddy team you and Cyan will make! Just don't let Seppel ruin it!
* You can vote.
* You cannot be targeted. If anyone targets you with an ability, that ability will fail and you will be notified of who
attempted to target you.
Win condition: The number of mafia-aligned players must be greater than or equal to the number of non-mafia-aligned
players.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Mafia Quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iQxf9Nir6uGx
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-M3-
ECOPHAGY - MAFIA (WITH PINKYS_BRAIN AND ~TILDE~)
You are Seppel, mafia ANYTHING.
You can claim anything about yourself and it'll be true. Abilities, votes, you name it. And if you want to change your
mind, just say that you're really something else!
* You can vote.
* You can claim anything in BOLD TEXT and it'll immediately come true... with a few limits:
** You CANNOT claim any killing role.
** You CANNOT claim any day abilities or anything that can give you day abilities.
** You CANNOT claim any vote manipulation abilities, including but not limited to adding votes, removing votes, changing
votes, and modifying lynch thresholds.
** You CANNOT claim anything that will remove people from voting for you or make it so the town cannot lynch you.
** You CANNOT change your alignment.
*** You can still claim anything that you cannot claim, it just won't come true.
Win Condition: The number of mafia-aligned players must be greater than or equal to the number of non-mafia-aligned
players.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Mafia Quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iQxf9Nir6uGx
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
MAFIA FALSECLAIMS:
-Falseclaim 1-
You are Seppel,
self-protecting superdocVANILLA TOWNIE.You think you're always right, huh? Well, then prove it and you can be a power role.
* You can vote.
* If a mafia-aligned player is lynched and you are on the vote, you become a self-protecting doc.
* If a second mafia-aligned player is lynched and you are on the vote again, you become a self-protecting doc who can
protect another player as well.
* If a townie is lynched and you are on the vote, you become vanilla again.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
-Falseclaim 2-
You are Cyan, night-action-result bus driver.
This role has never existed in the history of mafia. And it still doesn't.
* You can vote.
* Each night, you may target two players. If either would receive a night action result PM from the moderator that
night, the other player receives it instead.
** You cannot target yourself.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Game Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=370166
Please reply to confirm that you have read your role PM.
One can we see the spectator's talks?
Two will we be able to see how the other game is going yet?
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
Also known at mafiascum as farside22
Also, I wasn't a 50-50 cop.
I would like to see the spectator thread on this game and the other one as well.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I was hopping that Eco would have used the fake claim of Seppel for WIFOM reasons but it worked out in the end.
You still me?
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
Also known at mafiascum as farside22
I'd like to point out that you a) lied about being a cop and b) had several INCORRECT reads (SO, ILord, Pinky, Archonoid)
Note to self: Your mafia theories are usually wrong, so don't act on them.
I pegged all the Mafia, but the one townie in there lost us the game. FML.
You were never going to get Tilde lynched, the way you went about it.
And for the same reasons, you were never going to prevent Arcadic's lynch.
And hindsight is 20/20.
Please don't forget the spectator chat. I'm curious what was said behind the scenes.
Ahhhh I'm sorry. If I had been town........
Well I probably would have smack Iso harder and pushed at Tilde more.
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
Also known at mafiascum as farside22
I guess.
After Anak flipped town and pinky's claim, I knew she was scum. What does me lying about being a cop have to do with how accurate my reads were? And I was right about Some One being town, that's why I unvoted him. I also stopped believing iLord to be scum, so no, pretty sure my reads were fair this game.
You seem mad I got you lynched, Tilde. o:
Why? Once you determine a person's mindset and intent, their alignment should be evident. I proved Tilde's mindset and intent at least twice.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Your ineffectual arguments against Tilde were the reason that he lived so long.
So, rather than saying "I GOT TILDE LYNCHED!"
you should be saying "I STOPPED TILDE GETTING LYNCHED FOR AAAGES"!
I feel like your role was seeping into your brain just a little there during the game. Though I'm glad you FINALLY saw reason and hammered Tilde. I also feel like your personal dislike for me and the way I play the game was part of the reason why Tilde lived so long. For the record, I had no intention of dissuading people from Arcadic's lynch, as the reason I knew Arcadic was town was the same reason I knew Tilde was scum. The reason I made it clear that I didn't want him lynched was to boost my own credibility and have people in the game, such as you, for example, to take a step back, look at what happened, and realize, "Hey, maybe Iso ISN'T just an insane ****ing idiot."
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't listen to statements that have zero reasoning behind them, or people who make sweeping statements without showing their reasoning.
Think of it this way.
In a maths exam, 9/10 marks for every question are for showing your working, whether or not you end up with the correct answer.
The correct answer is worth only 10% of the points - the other 90% is from showing exactly how you came to that conclusion.
So, your statements about arcadic got you 1/10 marks from me.
You don't show your working, are completely arrogant and insufferable whenever you happen to be right, and it gets my heckles up NO END.
Clearly, you do know what you're talking about, to some extent, since you did pin Tilde down, but just finding scum is not all mafia is about.
You need to be able to convince the rest of the players that your scumspects are actually scum, with facts, quotes, or at the very least, more than you used in this game.
I hope that's a bit more clear about exactly what I, and every single other player in this game, find incredibly frustrating about playing with you.
I think what drives people crazy with Iso is when you say X is scum and with Tilde I got what you were saying but day after day nothing changed or added to reason's why he was scum.
As for Arcadic when asked why he was town and just stating Meta as a reason with no back up is pretty much just a baseless comment.
It means absolutely nothing.
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
Also known at mafiascum as farside22
/superbarn this.
The thing is, Iso, even if you had incredible supernatural scum-catching powers, that's useless unless we have a reason to trust you. Blindly trusting you every game is a self-evidently terrible approach, because then Scum-Iso will run circles around us. So you have to give us a reason to trust you in each game; and the best reason to trust is a well-reasoned argument.
Also, why'd I get killed?
I think it boiled down to the fact you WEREN'T a townie that seemed hellbent on shooting the town in the foot. Which pretty much describes most of the play this game.
Note to self: Your mafia theories are usually wrong, so don't act on them.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Sorry, guys.
For all of 5 post.
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
Also known at mafiascum as farside22
As for the town, all I will say is that it was all around really bad. No way did we deserve to win this game. Congrats to the scum team.
I didn't think you were a cop, but I couldn't be sure enough to let you live. Turns out, we made the correct decision for totally unexpected reasons - I wasn't expecting WoD to make things so simple.
Also, you called most of the game scum at some point or another: being right on one of them isn't that wonderful an achievement. I'm still not sure that your initial read on Tilde came from anything other than Tilde's traditional madness.
FTR, this is exactly what scum with the same ability would probably do. It's not a huge deficit to the scum team to remove restrictions (especially if they have a role cop like we did), and it's a really easy way of getting town cred. I know you're smart enough to play it like that as mafia, anyway - I wouldn't have trusted you just from it.
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Cool game Seppel, thanks for hosting it
I think the mafia just played better than the town. Neither side had an overwhelming advantage, we just got ahead and stayed there - it wasn't that bad a town performance overall.
Sorry, again. I feel awful about the way I left this game (unlike my Hetalia exit, where I just had 0 motivation to play), and I think a big part of our loss is on our shoulders, when I was basically confirmed town, especially after Iso flipped.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The Cyan's Pick game just ended in a Town Win.
These threads will soon be moved into the normal Mafia forum.
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
Also known at mafiascum as farside22
Nice game, Seppel.
My Custom Set: Solescurio