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#1213 Dec 29, 2011
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Iso (3): Anaklusmos, Archonoid, ~Tilde~
Anaklusmos (3): Cyouni, Iso, pinkys_brain
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Not Voting (2): Ecophagy, ganderin_dan

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#1214 Dec 29, 2011
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tezz, whenever you wanna hammer Anak would be awesome.

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#1215 Dec 29, 2011
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Oops, Nath'd by the mod. Apparently we need 2 more votes.

Seppel, tezz DOES have access to the thread.

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#1216 Dec 29, 2011
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In case it's not obvious enough, I intend to vote Anak once Tezz has caught up and given us his full thoughts.

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I thought I'd come join the "poor Eco" thread instead of pinging Eido every few seconds on seconds to say poor Eco.

God. Not only is he 100% right, but it's so... clearly reasoned. Like this is how mafia is meant to be played.

Town did not deserve this guy.
#1217 Dec 29, 2011
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Ah, excellent.

Carry on, then.

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#1220 Dec 29, 2011
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Then...why aren't you?

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#1222 Dec 29, 2011
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Nope.

Hammer, Eco?

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#1223 Dec 29, 2011
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Well, when that time comes...

It makes no sense for Tilde to come out and CC to kill me as scum, because then he would just wind up dead. Thus, Tilde must be town. Which is odd, because it means that my role is lying to me or I am not interpreting it correctly. Whatever. Point is I believe Tilde to be town.

Iso is the scum boy then. Kill him first prease.

Cyouni is another person to look into as well.

Good luck yall.

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#1224 Dec 29, 2011
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Ah, so Tilde's scum. Thanks for clarifying.

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#1225 Dec 30, 2011
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Well, when that time comes...

It makes no sense for Tilde to come out and CC to kill me as scum, because then he would just wind up dead. Thus, Tilde must be town. Which is odd, because it means that my role is lying to me or I am not interpreting it correctly. Whatever. Point is I believe Tilde to be town.

Iso is the scum boy then. Kill him first prease.

Cyouni is another person to look into as well.

Good luck yall.

MzztrTetris' entire input has been "/barn Iso".

Which makes me seriously consider that I was right back on day 1 regarding the Ganderin / Iso scum team. That means Anak is town. (and has apparently misread his role or there's mod shenanigans at work)

Don't hammer. I'm thinking the scum team's trying an all-in gambit and hoping to get a quick mislynch in lylo tomorrow.

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#1226 Dec 30, 2011
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Good god, look at them dance.

Tilde, why, in your opinion, should we keep either you or Anak alive today when you have effectively counterclaimed each other? We have a dichotomy on our hands and the easiest way to deal with it is to lynch both of you.

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Since I think Tezz is your scumbuddy, Anak gets pushed into the town pile by process of elimination, unless there's a 4th scum in this game.

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#1228 Dec 30, 2011
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Alright, rereads done.

Town:
Iso-Got rid of my posting restriction, not playing scum game.
Pinkys_Brain-Was on his scumteam once, not his game.
W_O_D-Replaced in for him, not scum game.

Neutral:
Archoniod-Not sure of...
Ecophagy-Ditto
Cyouni-Need to read town game.

Scum-
Anklusmos-Crappy claim, bad play.
Tilde-Just needs to die.

I'm ready to vote for Ank now.

Wow, your re-read was incredibly thorough. So thorough that you failed to correctly identify that you replaced Ganderin_Dan, not WoD, and you completely missed GD out of your post.

You need to outline these reads in waaaay more detail. "Not his scum game" is vague and fluffy. Bad play is not a scum tell. Needing to die is not a scum tell. If you're not sure on someone, at least give us the conflicting points.

Sorry for holding the game up, but I'm not hammering until Tezz produces something that isn't vague, barny rubbish.

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I thought I'd come join the "poor Eco" thread instead of pinging Eido every few seconds on seconds to say poor Eco.

God. Not only is he 100% right, but it's so... clearly reasoned. Like this is how mafia is meant to be played.

Town did not deserve this guy.
#1229 Dec 30, 2011
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Wow, your re-read was incredibly thorough. So thorough that you failed to correctly identify that you replaced Ganderin_Dan, not WoD, and you completely missed GD out of your post.

You need to outline these reads in waaaay more detail. "Not his scum game" is vague and fluffy. Bad play is not a scum tell. Needing to die is not a scum tell. If you're not sure on someone, at least give us the conflicting points.

Sorry for holding the game up, but I'm not hammering until Tezz produces something that isn't vague, barny rubbish.

I think Tezz was talking about a past game but I could be wrong.

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#1230 Dec 30, 2011
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I think Tezz was talking about a past game but I could be wrong.

No, no he wasn't. He pre-empted it by saying "Rereads done..." How does that read at all like a past game?

Moreover, why are you defending him, especially with an explanation that doesn't make any sense?

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#1231 Dec 30, 2011
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No, no he wasn't. He pre-empted it by saying "Rereads done..." How does that read at all like a past game?

Moreover, why are you defending him, especially with an explanation that doesn't make any sense?

He played in Star Trek Mafia and replaced WoD's in that game. His comment about replacing WoD's and this is not his scum game sounded like he was talking about how WoD's played that game.
It's an opinion and would explain as well why GD was not on the list.

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So explain to me. In one post you manage to have both Tilde and Anaklusmos on your scum list, and then in the next say they can't be on a scumteam together.
Hell, in that post, you're saying that Anaklusmos looks like scum, and "the whole Tilde thing doesn't help him much either", which means that Tilde has to be telling the truth. Yet earlier in that post, you're saying that Tilde is scum, which makes no sense given the later statement.

Plus, all your town reads are meta. Your read on me is solely meta. You have maybe three alignments that aren't all meta (Iso, Anaklusmos, Tilde) and two of them are contradictory.

Tell me, do you actually believe what you're writing?

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You're arguing that Anaklusmos is scum based on something that relies on Tilde being town, and then advocating lynching Tilde. And now that I look at it again, your argument that Tilde's scum is "he voted me, and since I know I'm town, he must be scum". It's not even an argument at all.

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I think Tezz was talking about a past game but I could be wrong.

I second this. tezz replaced in for WoD in Star Trek Myriad Universes II and was scum in that game. When I read what tezz said about WoD, I automatically assumed that this was what he was referring to.

@Tilde: Terrible reasoning.

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Oops, didn't realize there were two pages. Seems that had already been addressed.

tezz, my thoughts on the Tilde vs. Anak dichotomy: They're both scum, and they have counterclaimed each other to clear each other. I know that's happened before in a game but I can't remember which.

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Oops, didn't realize there were two pages. Seems that had already been addressed.

tezz, my thoughts on the Tilde vs. Anak dichotomy: They're both scum, and they have counterclaimed each other to clear each other. I know that's happened before in a game but I can't remember which.

You mean the game you were scum and counter claimed RO to try and clear him.....that game!

What do you think I have said a least a page ago.

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#1239 Dec 30, 2011
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YUP, that's the one!

And like I said, didn't realize there were two pages for me to read.

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YUP, that's the one!

And like I said, didn't realize there were two pages for me to read.

Seriously one day I'm going to find you and smack you.

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#1241 Dec 30, 2011
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I look forward to the day.

So yeah, once Anak's lynched, looking forward to Tilde's death.

tezz, if you could in your own words, please, explain why you find Tilde scummy?

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I replaced in for WOD in Star Trek, where he was a lot more quiet, conspicuous, and easy to peg as scum. In this game he's blatantly throwing himself out there.

I'm not going to put myself on the list because that's just completely idiotic. Of course I'm town, and I'm not going to waste my time analyzing Ganderin Dan's points.

Tilde is scum, primarily because of his push on Iso for removing my post restriction, when I know that I'm town, and I know that Iso is probably town because he saved me. He was trying to get an easy lynch pushed on day 1 on one of the two of us based on almost no logic whatsoever.

Pinkys Brain, in 43, was way more just, "I'm going to sit around, maybe say a few interesting things, but just sit around the same." In this game his game is completely different.

Arachnoid, I honestly have no clue on.

Same thing for you Eco. But I think you're town. Or just really good scum.

Cyouni, I still haven't had time to look at Final Fantasy.

Anklusmos, I just really, really hate his claim. And the whole Tilde thing doesn't help him much either.

Thanks, that's much better. My bad on the WoD thing, I misinterpreted you.

Much more to be discussed tomorrow, but I've got the clarification I wanted.

Vote Anaklusmos

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God. Not only is he 100% right, but it's so... clearly reasoned. Like this is how mafia is meant to be played.

Town did not deserve this guy.
#1243 Dec 31, 2011
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Final Day 2 Votecount!

Anaklusmos (5): Cyouni, Iso, pinkys_brain, MzztrTetris, Ecophagy
Iso (3): Anaklusmos, Archonoid, ~Tilde~
Ecophagy (1): Wrath_of_DoG

Not Voting (0): [Nobody]

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Anaklusmos, Cyan, town naive cop, has been lynched and forgotten.

It is now night 2. Day 3 will begin in less than 72 hours. Get your night actions in!

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It's bizarre that Cyan has lived this long. You'd think someone would kill him by now!

Oh.

Cyouni, Cyan, town suicidal vote-donator, is gone.

It is now Day 3. With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

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Now can we mass claim?

Nope.

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Oh hey look, Anak flipped town as I predicted. Are we going to finally lynch Iso?

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"If he's town..."

Yesterday you were Iso's best buddy because he "saved you" and "Got rid of my posting restriction, not playing scum game."

Now it looks like you're distancing yourself from him. Don't worry you'll be strung up soon enough.

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@WoD: NEGATORY, CAPTAIN.

@iLord: If you really think I'm that terrible at reading people, then let's lynch Anak now and see what he flips. If he's town, lynch me next. I won't fight it. If he's scum, then start calling me King Iso and worship the grounds I post on.

Turns out Mafia is a Democracy.

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#1250 Jan 2, 2012
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And the chances that the only cop is the game is naive are virtually nonexistent.

Oh look I found Anak's role.

Oh look that means Tilde's scum.

Vote Tilde

Oh look that means Arch is definitely Tilde's scumbuddy.

Anak himself said that Tilde should be lynched before me, and I was his #1 scumspect.

Town is stupid if Tilde doesn't get lynched today.

Also, gonna look for that quote on WoD's ability so I can remove his voting restriction.

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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
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#1251 Jan 2, 2012
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If I change my vote after my first post of the day, I lose an ability.

That's impossible!

So yeah, massclaim and then lynch Tilde.

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#1252 Jan 2, 2012
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Also Tilde, that was over 1000 posts ago and before Anak's role information was revealed and you botched your counterclaim of him.

We should have lynched you yesterday, as soon as you attempted to cc Anak.

Hell, we should have lynched you Day 1.

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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
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#1253 Jan 2, 2012
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I'm happy with a Tilde lynch, at this point.

Vote Tilde, Vote Tilde, Vote Tilde

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#1254 Jan 2, 2012
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Are you a triple voter? Because if so, you just completely made my Day.

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#1255 Jan 2, 2012
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Not anymore.

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Let me speculate.

Are you an ability stealer?

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#1257 Jan 2, 2012
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Let me speculate.

Are you an ability stealer?
nope

votes are the only power I ever had.

Other than the ability to kill Some One.

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#1258 Jan 2, 2012
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First and Final Day 3 Votecount!

~Tilde~ (4): Iso, Wrath_of_DoG, Wrath_of_DoG, Wrath_of_DoG
Iso (2): ~Tilde~, Archonoid

Not Voting (3): pinkys_brain, MzztrTetris, Ecophagy

~Tilde~ has been lynched.

"Giving the cop role to the mafia is a gimmicky and pointless idea. But to put it in a game would just be irresponsible as a moderator," thinks Cyan, "If anyone did that, I'd call for a probation."

Impossible he was, as ~Tilde~, Cyan, mafia godfather cop, is no more.

It is now night 3. Day 4 will begin in less than 72 hours. Get your night actions in!

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#1259 Jan 4, 2012
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Cyan slept in. He slept in for so long that he completely forgot about Iso.

Iso, Cyan, town impossible-perma-roleblocker, has been forgotten.

It is now Day 4. With 5 alive, it is 3 to lynch.

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#1261 Jan 4, 2012
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God damn it Iso. Now I have no idea what the hell.

Mass claim seems fine. I'll be doing rereads on the remaining players.

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#1264 Jan 4, 2012
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I agree with mass claim. I want to see those I find scummy go first.
Either Eco or Arch needs to claim in my view.

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#1266 Jan 4, 2012
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Have you claimed yet? If not, please do so right now.

I see you disagree with letting those that are scummy claim first then?
Sigh

You are Cyan, night-action-result bus driver.
Each night I can target 2 players. If a night action results with a PM from the mod the other player would get it instead.
Seemed like a pretty useless role in my view.
However after Anak flipped town and with Tilde's claim I used it the night after Anak's flip and targetted Iso and Tilde.
win when all threats are eliminated.

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#1267 Jan 4, 2012
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I agree with mass claim. I want to see those I find scummy go first.
Either Eco or Arch needs to claim in my view.

Claim first, then we'll discuss who's scummy and who's not. The order doesn't matter when there's only three unclaimed players.

Also, hold off discussion until we've all claimed - including WoD confirming his role.

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I am Cyan, Vanilla Town/Town Self-Protecting Superdoc.

Cyan is always right, and being proven so only makes me stronger.

I start off with no abilities, but if I'm voting on a lynch that turns up scum, I gain the capacity to protect myself at night. If I get a second scum right, I can protect myself AND another player at night.

If I subsequently end up on a town lynch, I lose any abilities gained up to that point.

Obviously, I'm pretty pissed off to have missed getting a vote down yesterday

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I thought I'd come join the "poor Eco" thread instead of pinging Eido every few seconds on seconds to say poor Eco.

God. Not only is he 100% right, but it's so... clearly reasoned. Like this is how mafia is meant to be played.

Town did not deserve this guy.
#1268 Jan 4, 2012
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I am kpaca, vanilla town.

Hence why Iso's theory on "All the roles are impossible" was so obviously wrong - it's absurd to think that Cyan ever claimed a VT was an impossible role.

I do find it interesting that everyone but me seems to be Cyan so far - even the scum, based on Tilde's flip.

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I am kpaca, vanilla town.

Hence why Iso's theory on "All the roles are impossible" was so obviously wrong - it's absurd to think that Cyan ever claimed a VT was an impossible role.

I do find it interesting that everyone but me seems to be Cyan so far - even the scum, based on Tilde's flip.

Can you produce some flavour? Basically, why is Kpaca, Vanilla Town in Cyan's Impossible Mafia?

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I thought I'd come join the "poor Eco" thread instead of pinging Eido every few seconds on seconds to say poor Eco.

God. Not only is he 100% right, but it's so... clearly reasoned. Like this is how mafia is meant to be played.

Town did not deserve this guy.
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Can you produce some flavour? Basically, why is Kpaca, Vanilla Town in Cyan's Impossible Mafia?

Nope. I explicitly have no flavor.

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No. I'm not buying this. You're either a neutral or scum.

Why?

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Because I'm vanilla town. And my PM is nothing like yours seems to be.
You said you have a posting restriction. That is not vanilla.

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EBWOP: what is your posting restriction?

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