Shalako doesn't need to explain anything. Looking back, I do look like Scum, and he's right to believe I was. We simply have an unusual number of P.R.s this game. I just don't think that Shalako would CC me (and not as Cop) if he was Scum.
Okay, I've got a good twelve pages or so to catch up on, so I won't post for a bit now. Probably not tonight. But, since the name is the same, I'm assuming we haven't lynched yet? So much to catch up on . . .
There's no reason for a dead player to lie about their role.
I see dead people posting
seriously im feeling like out of these two exlight seems to be the more believable. Shalako's was really out of the blue when the game was stalled and we were bored.
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No we lynched naka with TIK being the hammer vote. someone just hasnt been on since this morning.
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The dead don't lie - Nakamura was Hunch Punch - Town Cop.
It is now night time. DO NOT TALK IN THIS THREAD. IF YOU CAN TALK AT NIGHT YOU MAY NOW TALK AT NIGHT. NIGHT WILL END IN ABOUT THREE (3) DAYS OR WHENEVER I GET ALL NIGHT ACTIONS.
So awful, that it is actually more awful than you would imagine.
Weird, right?
As you gather for the day...there are clearly lost souls...
...people are missing...
Huh? How does that work...?
It's clear a great deal of turmoil happened during the night.
You are all dragged to the quite odiferous Poggydude. He claimed to be fiji water right, why should he smell?
Well, he's not moving...he's...dead. Bullets riddled his body and it appears he never stood a chance. Quite a tragedy really...shotguns versus doctors never really end too well, now do they...
But still, there is another smell...coming from...Exlight's room.
His body, dead at the door...appears relatively fine - no bullets...he's just out cold. Real Cold.
As it turns out, he was mushroom stamped so hard...his soul instantly vanished into oblivion. He was a Monster, and a Roleblocker at that. Knowing the reality of this situation...no one really questions his death. Surely this specific conflict ended as great for the town as the other ended so much the opposite.
1) we lynched the cop. not great. this really surprised me, I was like 100% sure that Naka was scum. I'll have to completely reread since I clearly cant trust any of my current reads.
2) The real vig vigged exLight. Awesome.
3) The scum killed the doctor. not so good. the doctor was poggy -- this confuses me. I don't understand why the scum would kill poggy when he seemed like such an easy mislynch. I'll have to keep an eye on this in the reread, see if he hinted at his power role in some way.
4) We now have the following town power roles confirmed: vig, cop, doctor. and the following claimed: watcher
where I listed the town power roles in recent games, 4 town power roles has only happened in #27, which was an absurd game that the mod later admitted to putting too many power roles in. Shalako's status is looking iffy, but I'm really hesitant to lynch him just off of mod-gaming, since it would be so easy to be wrong. Something to think about, I guess. Maybe a reread will clarify.
So, for anyone planning on rereading the thread to this point, here's what I'm gonna be looking at and encourage you to do so as well:
why would the scum lynch poggy
is Shalako's claim reasonable (and is his play consistent with such a claim).
Wow, that sucks, but I guess there's an upside. Doctor for Roleblocker, not a good trade, by any means, but, better than doctor for nothing. This has been an odd first day, to say the least . . .
To address the fact that I missed the entirety of the lynch scene. I finished reading just after SomeOne declared. I probably would've voted Naka if I had been able to earlier, but obviously I would've been wrong. Real life got in the way of Mafia life, how sad. But that would be why, here's to a better day for the town.
I have been debating this for a while and I have come to my conclusion. I will not claim any more than my drink which I have already. I will not defend myself in a broad seeping post. If you guys want to lynch me quickly be my guest. Just letting you know it will be bad news for you guys.
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[B]ExLight [B]Mootastic[/B]
[/B][B]Nakamaru[/B]Cop
[B]quietfish[/B] No CC
[B]dracofaust[/B]
[B]poggydude[/B]No C'C
[B]Heartwork[/B] No CC
[B]Reya Cookiebringer[/B]
[B]22bebo[/B]
[B]The Ice King[/B]No CC
[B]Shalako[/B]No C'C
[B]TACKY[/B] No CC
If you want on this list/ if accidentally added you/ if i forgot to add you please speak up
So let me get this straight, I have already outed myself as scum, alright...let's look at this logically, what beverage has no taste? [B]Is this beverage healthy[/B]? I'm thinking that he made the mafia unhealthy drinks but I don't know. Also how does Fosing you instead of voting you make me scummy? I am trying to play conservatively but If it makes you happy I am perfectly fine with voting you by now. Also quietfish makes a good point where he says stating that your new is relevant. I am a new player at least on these forums.
So i stand by my beverage claim as it certainly does not make me mafia.
Draco said he wants to continue with this game. Kpaca never got back to me, and no one has messaged me with any interest to join this game. If he does not post soon, I may just need to modkill him.
Hi guys sorry I was gone day 1. I reread what happened yesterday and these are some of my thoughts. Note I wrote this stuff before I found out about todays results, about doc and rb being dead.
Votes on naka. Everyone starts voting after shalako cc's.
Nakamura: Shalako(cc'ed cop), exlight(trusting guts, unsure about it but votes naka),
poggy(making sure of shalako's vote before voting himself), reya, quietfish, heartwoood, Tik
during naka's cc ordeal exlight points out ibug is lurking, but doesn't point out
heartwood, bebo, tacky. eventually he asks for a prod on heartwood.
Meanwhile reya goes through his depression state, being bored and posting little
content. Naka votes for him, then he votes himself, and poggy jumps onto the wagon.
Reya: Naka, reya, poggy
After tik tells him to back off, poggy unvotes, and revotes naka.
Reya also unvotes and votes for naka.
After this ibug comes back and brings up the double vote issue. Personally i
believe naka (and now we know she isn't lying) that she just mixed up her
games. exlight barns ibugs comment about doublevoting.
Quote from ibug »
"Funny, you said Rax's Bastard Mafia before:
Trouble keeping your story straight?
I'm pretty sure you're a liar,
and I can't go any further into it because of ongoing games."
Quote from exlight »
"this right here has just done this case in my mind."
quietfish does some research and a pbpa then goes to vote naka, based on naka being
a critic and claiming poggys been on every wagon when she herself has too.
Also votes for naka because of nakas reaction to cc, going from 'SCUM SCUM SCUM!'
to 'scum wont do that must be town'.
Personally i find quietfish's logic sound.
Heartwork comes in after a while and puts naka on l1. This i really find suspicious.
But i do agree with his comment about thinking both naka and poggy is scum.
Finally exlight points out that bebo is lurking.
Naka's final list:
Scum: poggy(been scummy to her all game)
reya/bebo (i'm presuming because of lurking. reya active lurks,
she does post but its not of any content)
Tacky, quiet, heart,(again probably because of lurking)
Not sure why she thinks if reya's cleared, bebos scum and vice versa.
Town: Tik(been town to her all game)
Shalako(been town to her all game apart from cc, but then she
realises there could be two inves roles.)
Exlight(I'm thinking exlight is here based on his claim alone)
Finally bebo comes back.
MY list:
Town: bug(posting good content)
leaning town: reya(thought she was noob scum because of wagon jumping
but now looks more like bored noob town), tik
scum: heartwork(lurking, comes back and puts naka on l1)
poggy(jumps on every wagon, especially look at the reya one where he immediately
votes reya just to policy lynch him. When told by tik to back off he does so)
I don't know much about these drinks so can someone tell me how hunch punch
relates to town cop? and cocky carrot watcher?
Tacky is still in this game right...
Anyways, we're down two powerroles. Not good. At least we got the rber.
If we do have a vig, and it seems like we do, then why did he not counterclaim exlight and save us from mislynching?? Seems like this was the easiest thing to do instead of waiting for night and wasting his shot (i'm assuming its a one shot vig).
Because of this I'm still uncertain of Shalako's claim. I was prepared to believe him but now it turns out we have a cop and doc, and possibly a vig too. Having a town watcher as well is unlikely.
I did not get roleblocked.
1) we lynched the cop. not great. this really surprised me, I was like 100% sure that Naka was scum. I'll have to completely reread since I clearly cant trust any of my current reads. Yup, even though her death revealed her as town cop, when i reread I thought her posts seems scummy. jumping wagons, constantly tunnel visioning poggy.
2) The real vig vigged exLight. Awesome. Still not sure if we do have a vig, but then who could have killed exlight...
3) The scum killed the doctor. not so good. the doctor was poggy -- this confuses me. I don't understand why the scum would kill poggy when he seemed like such an easy mislynch. I'll have to keep an eye on this in the reread, see if he hinted at his power role in some way. I'm with you. Don't know why the scum would kill poggy. I would've thought he was easy mislynch as well.
4) We now have the following town power roles confirmed: vig, cop, doctor. and the following claimed: watcher Vig's not yet confirmed for me.
where I listed the town power roles in recent games, 4 town power roles has only happened in #27, which was an absurd game that the mod later admitted to putting too many power roles in. Shalako's status is looking iffy, but I'm really hesitant to lynch him just off of mod-gaming, since it would be so easy to be wrong. Something to think about, I guess. Maybe a reread will clarify.
So, for anyone planning on rereading the thread to this point, here's what I'm gonna be looking at and encourage you to do so as well:
why would the scum lynch poggy
is Shalako's claim reasonable (and is his play consistent with such a claim).
Bolded parts are mine.
Asking you mafia veterans out there: would it be better for the vig (if we have one) to reveal themselves now, or for them to keep their identity hidden?
Anyways, we're down two powerroles. Not good. At least we got the rber.
If we do have a vig, and it seems like we do, then why did he not counterclaim exlight and save us from mislynching??
I`m guessing so he doesn't have to out him self and can still kill a scum.
Smart move.
Seems like this was the easiest thing to do instead of waiting for night and wasting his shot (i'm assuming its a one shot vig).
Could be full
Because of this I'm still uncertain of Shalako's claim. I was prepared to believe him but now it turns out we have a cop and doc, and possibly a vig too. Having a town watcher as well is unlikely.
Yeah.
It`s looking pretty bad for me.
But I knew that If I was wrong about the # of roles I was dead.
I`m just waiting for L-1 because I have a funny picture.
To answer the above question, I didn't receive any indication that anyone tried to roleblock me during the night.
As far as reads on people, I think I believe Shalako that he's town and made an honest mistake. Quietfish also comes across as quite town. That leaves six people on my possible scum list. ibug and draco are probably the scummiest looking to me at the moment.
Tacky is still in this game right...
Anyways, we're down two powerroles. Not good. At least we got the rber.
If we do have a vig, and it seems like we do, then why did he not counterclaim exlight and save us from mislynching?? Seems like this was the easiest thing to do instead of waiting for night and wasting his shot (i'm assuming its a one shot vig).
Because of this I'm still uncertain of Shalako's claim. I was prepared to believe him but now it turns out we have a cop and doc, and possibly a vig too. Having a town watcher as well is unlikely.
I did not get roleblocked.
Very good points, I will give some guesses when everyone else checks in...
Again, please state what happened to you, if anything...
Are you thinking we had more then thing happen in the night?
Ohhh.
Don`t tell me I like the suspense.:o
I did, and I have my reasons for asking these questions. If anyone doubts me, I can give you my reasons ahead of time, but I would prefer to wait for everyone...
@Shalako: But if he did out himself, at the cost of his vigshot, we would've lynched scum on day 1 instead of cop. I've got a hunch as to why he didn't but it's just a guess.
Heartwork: Why do I seem scummiest to you?
Nothing happened to me last night.
I did, and I have my reasons for asking these questions. If anyone doubts me, I can give you my reasons ahead of time, but I would prefer to wait for everyone...
Bolded parts are mine.
Asking you mafia veterans out there: would it be better for the vig (if we have one) to reveal themselves now, or for them to keep their identity hidden?
First, to the dracofaust commentary, I would like to say 1. totally hypocritical attack over lurking. Care to explain why you were lurking so very very long? I haven't lurked in this game, I have posted incredibly regularly, except for weekends. Remember my first post of the game, my little introduction speech? Yeah, I told the town up front that I was going to have limited access on weekends.
Now, on to scum hunting.
Heh, I was right about Exlight. Good. I need to reread Day 1 to recall his interactions, but good job to the vig.
Current suspects: Shalako. Why? He did a lot of flipping and flopping yesterday between two town players, Naka and Poggy, and probably more. He rode along with the attack on both these players, and if he is scum, he would know that it was two townies fighting amongst each other, which is a situation that scum would love to put themselves in.
Secondly, he has claimed tracker right? That would make 4 PR's for the town, which is totally unbelievable in a basic.
Now, I don't doubt that he's a Tracker. However, I believe he's just a scum tracker. Any time I've seen a tracker in a basic, they have been scum. A tracker is very useless to the town because it just lets you know if a player is doing something in the night. That doesn't mean that player is killing someone, just that they are taking an action. It's more commonly used as a scum role, mostly because it tells the scum who in the town is a power role. If the scum-tracker tracks a townie cop or doc, they can better plan their next night's actions and their actions during the day.
I believe that Shalako is scum based on his claim and play yesterday.
Other suspects: iBug, Draco. People to keep your eyes on.
That is all.
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Said already. I wasn't here for day 1 because of my internet. I requested replacement but kpaca didn't respond so now I'm back. I accused you of lurking because I didn't see you anywhere during Naka's lynch.
EBWODP: Vig should reveal at this point IMO. I would like to prevent any further townie death and a vig who thinks he can't miss is a great way to kill townies by accident. At this point, we have exactly what we have wanted from the vig, which is at least one dead scum. The vig should reveal today and we can use the vig shot as a potential second lynch. The Scum have no RB anymore, so a vig shot is guaranteed to go through even if the scum kill the vig.
So, we reveal the vig, eliminate a townie from lynch contention and hopefully plan to win the game by the morning of Day 3. I'm all for it.
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Said already. I wasn't here for day 1 because of my internet. I requested replacement but kpaca didn't respond so now I'm back. I accused you of lurking because I didn't see you anywhere during Naka's lynch.
I know. I would have been the voice screaming "WHAT ARE YOU FOOLS DOING" at the top of my lung. I need to reread the Naka lynch because that was by far the wrong thing to do. But, it was a weekend and I was at a PTQ, so naka died instead.
Also, am I to understand that you didn't have internet for close to 3 weeks, maybe more, it feels like?
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If shalako is scum tracker, then that means mafia has two powerroles. If town had only 3 powerroles, would the setup be balanced?
Mafia would have three actually, possibly. RBer, Tracker and Godfather. Godfather has no abilities but is revealed as town when investigated. I've seen many different setups for scumteams, but I've never seen a town setup with four pr's in a basic, especially a town with two investigative roles. A tracker and a cop in a basic on the town side? I don't buy it. That WOULD be totally unbalanced.
As for town balancing, most basics have doc/cop/1-shot vig. The vig is sometimes changed to some other smaller role, but it's totally common for the town to have three power and that's it, at least in a basic.
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Shalako doesn't need to explain anything. Looking back, I do look like Scum, and he's right to believe I was. We simply have an unusual number of P.R.s this game. I just don't think that Shalako would CC me (and not as Cop) if he was Scum.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
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Well, unless you or ExLight is lying, it is.
There's no reason for a dead player to lie about their role.
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I see dead people posting
seriously im feeling like out of these two exlight seems to be the more believable. Shalako's was really out of the blue when the game was stalled and we were bored.
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Possible.
I know im not lyning
And ExLight didnt get Ccd
Of course he could have gotten lucky with his claim:-/
To mess with the town is a fun one.
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No we lynched naka with TIK being the hammer vote. someone just hasnt been on since this morning.
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Switch your Posts to Page to 40 it makes it a lot easier to read.
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Can't be worse than lynching the Town Cop.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Pretty sure Im getting lynced next.
Hrm...
If I target ExLight...
I gotta think about what to do tonight and how to WIFOM the scum out.
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Town: Please don't lynch Shalako tomorrow. I believe he is Town.
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i havent missed poggy, he has been on my scum list since i replaced moo.
What?
I havent deleted anyposts.
Thats not allowed.
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Non-staff/people without Moderator powers or privileges can't delete posts in this sub-section.
So, he couldn't have deleted a post recently.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
you are right sorry, new page popped up when i posted so i got confused, my apologies
Possible next day lynches.
Poggy.
Bebo
Reya.
Me
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That's a lynch! - Shalako, ExLight, Poggydude, Reya Cookiebringer, Quietfish, Heartwork, The Ice King (7)
Nakamura has been HAMMERED...LITERALLY. A giant hammer fell out of the sky right onto the hapless drink as if it never had a chance.
The dead don't lie - Nakamura was Hunch Punch - Town Cop.
It is now night time. DO NOT TALK IN THIS THREAD. IF YOU CAN TALK AT NIGHT YOU MAY NOW TALK AT NIGHT. NIGHT WILL END IN ABOUT THREE (3) DAYS OR WHENEVER I GET ALL NIGHT ACTIONS.
If he turns up Scum, lynch either Bebo or Reya. Leaning Bebo.
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So awful, that it is actually more awful than you would imagine.
Weird, right?
As you gather for the day...there are clearly lost souls...
...people are missing...
Huh? How does that work...?
It's clear a great deal of turmoil happened during the night.
You are all dragged to the quite odiferous Poggydude. He claimed to be fiji water right, why should he smell?
Well, he's not moving...he's...dead. Bullets riddled his body and it appears he never stood a chance. Quite a tragedy really...shotguns versus doctors never really end too well, now do they...
But still, there is another smell...coming from...Exlight's room.
His body, dead at the door...appears relatively fine - no bullets...he's just out cold. Real Cold.
As it turns out, he was mushroom stamped so hard...his soul instantly vanished into oblivion. He was a Monster, and a Roleblocker at that. Knowing the reality of this situation...no one really questions his death. Surely this specific conflict ended as great for the town as the other ended so much the opposite.
With 9 Alive, It is 5 to Lynch.
DAY TWO HAS BEGUN!!
1) we lynched the cop. not great. this really surprised me, I was like 100% sure that Naka was scum. I'll have to completely reread since I clearly cant trust any of my current reads.
2) The real vig vigged exLight. Awesome.
3) The scum killed the doctor. not so good. the doctor was poggy -- this confuses me. I don't understand why the scum would kill poggy when he seemed like such an easy mislynch. I'll have to keep an eye on this in the reread, see if he hinted at his power role in some way.
4) We now have the following town power roles confirmed: vig, cop, doctor. and the following claimed: watcher
4 town power roles is a lotttt. as you can see from this post:http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=6034525&postcount=907
where I listed the town power roles in recent games, 4 town power roles has only happened in #27, which was an absurd game that the mod later admitted to putting too many power roles in. Shalako's status is looking iffy, but I'm really hesitant to lynch him just off of mod-gaming, since it would be so easy to be wrong. Something to think about, I guess. Maybe a reread will clarify.
So, for anyone planning on rereading the thread to this point, here's what I'm gonna be looking at and encourage you to do so as well:
why would the scum lynch poggy
is Shalako's claim reasonable (and is his play consistent with such a claim).
To address the fact that I missed the entirety of the lynch scene. I finished reading just after SomeOne declared. I probably would've voted Naka if I had been able to earlier, but obviously I would've been wrong. Real life got in the way of Mafia life, how sad. But that would be why, here's to a better day for the town.
Was anyone roleblocked?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I was.
And with Poggy Killed I'm set up as the next lynch.:mad:
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EDWOP:
I was gonna keep the flavor to myself.
But That doesn't matter now.
I was so ramped up last night that I couldn't see straight.
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Oh and this.
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@Mod, I believe we require a 9th member for draco before allowing the game to progress any further. We can't just ignore the 12th player all game.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Ignore the quickly part, I would just like to get some answers, I have a theory, and a treat for you all when I'm done.
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Votes on naka. Everyone starts voting after shalako cc's.
Nakamura: Shalako(cc'ed cop), exlight(trusting guts, unsure about it but votes naka),
poggy(making sure of shalako's vote before voting himself), reya, quietfish, heartwoood, Tik
during naka's cc ordeal exlight points out ibug is lurking, but doesn't point out
heartwood, bebo, tacky. eventually he asks for a prod on heartwood.
Meanwhile reya goes through his depression state, being bored and posting little
content. Naka votes for him, then he votes himself, and poggy jumps onto the wagon.
Reya: Naka, reya, poggy
After tik tells him to back off, poggy unvotes, and revotes naka.
Reya also unvotes and votes for naka.
After this ibug comes back and brings up the double vote issue. Personally i
believe naka (and now we know she isn't lying) that she just mixed up her
games. exlight barns ibugs comment about doublevoting.
quietfish does some research and a pbpa then goes to vote naka, based on naka being
a critic and claiming poggys been on every wagon when she herself has too.
Also votes for naka because of nakas reaction to cc, going from 'SCUM SCUM SCUM!'
to 'scum wont do that must be town'.
Personally i find quietfish's logic sound.
Heartwork comes in after a while and puts naka on l1. This i really find suspicious.
But i do agree with his comment about thinking both naka and poggy is scum.
Finally exlight points out that bebo is lurking.
Naka's final list:
Scum: poggy(been scummy to her all game)
reya/bebo (i'm presuming because of lurking. reya active lurks,
she does post but its not of any content)
Tacky, quiet, heart,(again probably because of lurking)
Not sure why she thinks if reya's cleared, bebos scum and vice versa.
Town: Tik(been town to her all game)
Shalako(been town to her all game apart from cc, but then she
realises there could be two inves roles.)
Exlight(I'm thinking exlight is here based on his claim alone)
Finally bebo comes back.
MY list:
Town: bug(posting good content)
leaning town: reya(thought she was noob scum because of wagon jumping
but now looks more like bored noob town), tik
scum: heartwork(lurking, comes back and puts naka on l1)
poggy(jumps on every wagon, especially look at the reya one where he immediately
votes reya just to policy lynch him. When told by tik to back off he does so)
I don't know much about these drinks so can someone tell me how hunch punch
relates to town cop? and cocky carrot watcher?
Also: there are so many lurkers in this game...
Anyways, we're down two powerroles. Not good. At least we got the rber.
If we do have a vig, and it seems like we do, then why did he not counterclaim exlight and save us from mislynching?? Seems like this was the easiest thing to do instead of waiting for night and wasting his shot (i'm assuming its a one shot vig).
Because of this I'm still uncertain of Shalako's claim. I was prepared to believe him but now it turns out we have a cop and doc, and possibly a vig too. Having a town watcher as well is unlikely.
I did not get roleblocked.
Bolded parts are mine.
Asking you mafia veterans out there: would it be better for the vig (if we have one) to reveal themselves now, or for them to keep their identity hidden?
I`m guessing that the Hunch part has to do with her Being the Cop.
I`m paraphrasing from my flavor that The Carrot/Alcohol combination gives me the Skills/Courage to go out at night and watch people.
*Nod*
I`m guessing so he doesn't have to out him self and can still kill a scum.
Smart move.
Could be full
Yeah.
It`s looking pretty bad for me.
But I knew that If I was wrong about the # of roles I was dead.
I`m just waiting for L-1 because I have a funny picture.
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To answer the above question, I didn't receive any indication that anyone tried to roleblock me during the night.
As far as reads on people, I think I believe Shalako that he's town and made an honest mistake. Quietfish also comes across as quite town. That leaves six people on my possible scum list. ibug and draco are probably the scummiest looking to me at the moment.
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Very good points, I will give some guesses when everyone else checks in...
Again, please state what happened to you, if anything...
The GJ way path to no lynching:
You saw where I said I was roleblocked right?
Are you thinking we had more then thing happen in the night?
Ohhh.
Don`t tell me I like the suspense.:o
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I did, and I have my reasons for asking these questions. If anyone doubts me, I can give you my reasons ahead of time, but I would prefer to wait for everyone...
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Heartwork: Why do I seem scummiest to you?
Nothing happened to me last night.
I can wait.
It`s fun!
Hidden.
He can reveal when it is the most opportune.
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Now, on to scum hunting.
Heh, I was right about Exlight. Good. I need to reread Day 1 to recall his interactions, but good job to the vig.
Current suspects: Shalako. Why? He did a lot of flipping and flopping yesterday between two town players, Naka and Poggy, and probably more. He rode along with the attack on both these players, and if he is scum, he would know that it was two townies fighting amongst each other, which is a situation that scum would love to put themselves in.
Secondly, he has claimed tracker right? That would make 4 PR's for the town, which is totally unbelievable in a basic.
Now, I don't doubt that he's a Tracker. However, I believe he's just a scum tracker. Any time I've seen a tracker in a basic, they have been scum. A tracker is very useless to the town because it just lets you know if a player is doing something in the night. That doesn't mean that player is killing someone, just that they are taking an action. It's more commonly used as a scum role, mostly because it tells the scum who in the town is a power role. If the scum-tracker tracks a townie cop or doc, they can better plan their next night's actions and their actions during the day.
I believe that Shalako is scum based on his claim and play yesterday.
Other suspects: iBug, Draco. People to keep your eyes on.
That is all.
So, we reveal the vig, eliminate a townie from lynch contention and hopefully plan to win the game by the morning of Day 3. I'm all for it.
I know. I would have been the voice screaming "WHAT ARE YOU FOOLS DOING" at the top of my lung. I need to reread the Naka lynch because that was by far the wrong thing to do. But, it was a weekend and I was at a PTQ, so naka died instead.
Also, am I to understand that you didn't have internet for close to 3 weeks, maybe more, it feels like?
Mafia would have three actually, possibly. RBer, Tracker and Godfather. Godfather has no abilities but is revealed as town when investigated. I've seen many different setups for scumteams, but I've never seen a town setup with four pr's in a basic, especially a town with two investigative roles. A tracker and a cop in a basic on the town side? I don't buy it. That WOULD be totally unbalanced.
As for town balancing, most basics have doc/cop/1-shot vig. The vig is sometimes changed to some other smaller role, but it's totally common for the town to have three power and that's it, at least in a basic.