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Plan for Night:
TACKY vigs joboman.
Buranri throws whoever he thinks is scummy onto joboman. (Preferably one of red_0mega, claytonthegreat, Alpha Werewolf, Archmage Eternal or Id Ego.)
Other power roles do whatever they thinks is best.
Did any of this happen?
I'd like to hear if Zind has anything relevant from the night.
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Also, I'm looking pretty hard at R_0, Alpha W, Clayton and AE right now. I wouldn't be surprised if two or three are scum due to AI's NK. I think AI prolly hit the nail on the head and scum had no choice but to 'quell the rebellion' do to speak.
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EBWODP: Also, if I had thrown AI onto jobo, my card (Rock Bombardment) would be in the graveyard, which it's not. My target last night was clayton, so I'm assuming I got roleblocked again.
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Graveyard:
Fuhma Shuriken
joboman - Celtic Guardian -- Townie -- Killed Night 2
Bark of Dark Ruler
AsianInvasion - Queen's Knight -- Townie Mason -- Killed Night 2
Dark World Lightning
Solemn Wishes
iPot - Injection Fairy Liliy -- Townie Doc -- Killed Night 2
gleng - Reign-Beaux, Overlord of Dark World -- Mafia Godfather -- Lynched Day 2
Raigeki Break
Blue_Ghost4 - Dunames Dark Witch -- Townie -- Modkilled Day 2
Dark World Dealings
Soul Exchange
Archfiend's Roar
Dark World Lightning
The Eye of Truth
DYH - Judge Man -- Townie Cop -- Killed Night 1
Fuhma Shuriken
tchoob - Dark Magician Girl -- Townie -- Killed Night 1
Bark of Dark Ruler
cantripmancer - Magician's Valkyria -- Townie -- Killed Night 1
ZDS - Familiar-Possessed Wynn -- Townie -- Lynched Day 1
Notice how my ability, the shuriken, occurs after my victims. Lets assume this holds for every card and ability.
Your inconsistancy early on about your ability makes me question your "not in graveyard" defense. I take it with many grains of salt.
I also don't believe you would be RBed. RBing a town ability that could actually benefit the scum isn't as good as RBing a doc/cop or something. Scum letting you toss someone would possibly speed up the game tremendously, which it has if that's the case. However, I don't think it is, since you keep insisting that you are the constant target of RBing.
I think you are lying. You threw either iPot or Asian into jobo, knowing full well the consequences of dead townies. I think Bark of the Dark Ruler is prob your effect and the Dark World Lightening is the NK. It could be flip-floped, but I don't think the flavor fits quite as well.
I'm inclined to believe you are scum falseclaiming some Rock ability and constant RBing.
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EBWODP: I think N1 you Barked Cantripmancer onto tchoob, my target, and created a nifty double-miskill for me, with the lightening killing DYH that night.
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@buranri: Do you really expect us to believe that the scum RBed you twice? your ability could have added another town death, why would they RB you? FOS Buranri because I feel a vote might push this day way too fast without comments from anyone
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First, Bunari is lying scum. That's settled. Let's try not to rush this day though!
I've looked at the cards in the graveyard, here's what I gleaned:
1. iPot was killed by the mafia. Dark World Lightning corresponds to Reign-Beaux, Ruler of Dark World. Therefore, all (or at least most) of the mafia are Dark World monsters.
2. joboman was killed by TACKY, clearly. But note that there's nothing showing for AK's ability. So far, every ability but one (Zindabad's) is a card. Zindabad explains this by saying he is a spirit monster. How do you, AK, explain this?
3. AI was killed by the SK. Since we take Fuhma Shurikens to be TACKY, and Dark World Lightnings to be scum, it follows that Bark of Dark Ruler is the SK kill. This pretty much confirms the SK, As it rules out any and all one-shot kills.
First, Bunari is lying scum. That's settled. Let's try not to rush this day though!
I've looked at the cards in the graveyard, here's what I gleaned:
1. iPot was killed by the mafia. Dark World Lightning corresponds to Reign-Beaux, Ruler of Dark World. Therefore, all (or at least most) of the mafia are Dark World monsters.
2. joboman was killed by TACKY, clearly. But note that there's nothing showing for AK's ability. So far, every ability but one (Zindabad's) is a card. Zindabad explains this by saying he is a spirit monster. How do you, AK, explain this?
3. AI was killed by the SK. Since we take Fuhma Shurikens to be TACKY, and Dark World Lightnings to be scum, it follows that Bark of Dark Ruler is the SK kill. This pretty much confirms the SK, As it rules out any and all one-shot kills.
Opinions? Additions?
Lynching Buranri has been something I've pushed for since day 1, so yes we do it. but we should look at other things. So far the amount of cards that have been put into the graveyard that fit plenty of stories but several having weird setups. At this point with the amount of townies being killed I think the remainder of the players that haven't given their roles up might do so now. A claim spreading the masons into the picture would might single out the targets aside from buranri. If I was to guess there is 2 scum left (one being buranri) and a Sk. i DON'T usually agree to full claims but personally i'm a little nervous at the simple point that between a vig and a sk we haven't seen 1 scum killed.
Lynching Buranri has been something I've pushed for since day 1, so yes we do it. but we should look at other things. So far the amount of cards that have been put into the graveyard that fit plenty of stories but several having weird setups. At this point with the amount of townies being killed I think the remainder of the players that haven't given their roles up might do so now. A claim spreading the masons into the picture would might single out the targets aside from buranri. If I was to guess there is 2 scum left (one being buranri) and a Sk. i DON'T usually agree to full claims but personally i'm a little nervous at the simple point that between a vig and a sk we haven't seen 1 scum killed.
WTF? How can you guess there are two scum left? Have you seen the thread title lately?
We started the game with what, 22 players? Ok, so now we are down to 12, with only 1 scum lynched. In a game of 22 players, you could easily take a third, 7, as scum. We'll say 6 to be safe. With one scum down, that leaves 5 scum left. if we didn't lynch that scum and still had what NK's we had, it'd be GG right now with a scum win (6 scum and 6 town).
Point is, there is NO WAY there are only 2 scum left. IGMEOY clayton!
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1. iPot was killed by the mafia. Dark World Lightning corresponds to Reign-Beaux, Ruler of Dark World. Therefore, all (or at least most) of the mafia are Dark World monsters.
2. joboman was killed by TACKY, clearly. But note that there's nothing showing for AK's ability. So far, every ability but one (Zindabad's) is a card. Zindabad explains this by saying he is a spirit monster. How do you, AK, explain this?
AK's card has now been edited into the graveyard. I'm not ruling him out - redirection is a very scum ability - but I don't think he's lying.
3. AI was killed by the SK. Since we take Fuhma Shurikens to be TACKY, and Dark World Lightnings to be scum, it follows that Bark of Dark Ruler is the SK kill. This pretty much confirms the SK, As it rules out any and all one-shot kills.
I don't see how it absolutely "rules out" the possibility of a one-shot kill, but I do agree that Bark is very likely the SK. Going back over who AI was suspicious of would be productive, in my opinion.
We need to discuss this roleblock issue. gleng claimed to be Terrorking Archfiend before he died and to have used Archfiend's Roar on Buranri, which Buranri confirmed. Obviously, gleng was not Terrorking, but Buranri is still claiming to have been blocked by Archfiend's Roar, and it's in the graveyard again.
I think it's clear that the source of that roleblock is not town-aligned and I wonder what implications that has for Buranri's alignment. I could understand blocking Buranri on N1 as "The Plan" could have proved to be extremely harmful to scum. I don't understand why he would've been blocked last night when Anak was not active (meaning another multiple-confirmation "plan" could not have taken place) and also while I was active. I thought maybe my lack of result from CM was due to being blocked, but it wasn't.
This, to me, suggests that Buranri is scum who has blatantly made up everything, and that his scumbuddies are blocking him to give him an excuse for why his "ability" never provides any results and why his "card" never appears in the graveyard. I will stop at nothing to see him lynched today.
We need to discuss this roleblock issue. gleng claimed to be Terrorking Archfiend before he died and to have used Archfiend's Roar on Buranri, which Buranri confirmed. Obviously, gleng was not Terrorking, but Buranri is still claiming to have been blocked by Archfiend's Roar, and it's in the graveyard again.
I think it's clear that the source of that roleblock is not town-aligned and I wonder what implications that has for Buranri's alignment. I could understand blocking Buranri on N1 as "The Plan" could have proved to be extremely harmful to scum. I don't understand why he would've been blocked last night when Anak was not active (meaning another multiple-confirmation "plan" could not have taken place) and also while I was active. I thought maybe my lack of result from CM was due to being blocked, but it wasn't.
This, to me, suggests that Buranri is scum who has blatantly made up everything, and that his scumbuddies are blocking him to give him an excuse for why his "ability" never provides any results and why his "card" never appears in the graveyard. I will stop at nothing to see him lynched today.
Pretty much /barn all of this, as it was pretty much my line of thinking, and hits the nail on the head of all the major points.
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Lynching Buranri has been something I've pushed for since day 1, so yes we do it. but we should look at other things. So far the amount of cards that have been put into the graveyard that fit plenty of stories but several having weird setups. At this point with the amount of townies being killed I think the remainder of the players that haven't given their roles up might do so now. A claim spreading the masons into the picture would might single out the targets aside from buranri. If I was to guess there is 2 scum left (one being buranri) and a Sk. i DON'T usually agree to full claims but personally i'm a little nervous at the simple point that between a vig and a sk we haven't seen 1 scum killed.
And I think I found where to start tomorrow. Fishing for claims? So the mafia know who to best kill? Riiight.
first off, 2 scum left is after buranri is lynched. which will give us 2 scum confirmed. we also have a SK, which is evident with the extra kill every night. I'm use to the SK counting against the town so 5 negative roles which 2 can NK sounds plausible with the 25 player game. It could be more but it would seem a little unbalanced. but without knowing all the roles I can't really say, by the way I do mod game when enough information is present to make it decent.
as for role seeking let's look at the set up, this who is still alive. If we can pin who is town down it will leave us with just a small number of players that we could easily pick apart.
archmage Eternal -unknown
Zindabad -tracker
red 0mega -unknown
TheArtistCurrentlyKnownAs -vigilante
jerubbaal -former mason
Alpha Werewolf -unknown
Infinis -unknown
Buranri - obv scum
claytonthegreat - obviously have my own opinion
Anaklusmos761 - role swapper
Id Ego -unknown
Apokalypse_Kid-deflector
with the 5 unknowns we would have 2 masons leaving three left. findin scum and serial killer in three is not hard. with 2 more coming up killed tonight after the buranri lynch. I would imagine that it would just the same idea for tommorrow.
First, Bunari is lying scum. That's settled. Let's try not to rush this day though!
I've looked at the cards in the graveyard, here's what I gleaned:
1. iPot was killed by the mafia. Dark World Lightning corresponds to Reign-Beaux, Ruler of Dark World. Therefore, all (or at least most) of the mafia are Dark World monsters.
2. joboman was killed by TACKY, clearly. But note that there's nothing showing for AK's ability. So far, every ability but one (Zindabad's) is a card. Zindabad explains this by saying he is a spirit monster. How do you, AK, explain this?
3. AI was killed by the SK. Since we take Fuhma Shurikens to be TACKY, and Dark World Lightnings to be scum, it follows that Bark of Dark Ruler is the SK kill. This pretty much confirms the SK, As it rules out any and all one-shot kills.
Opinions? Additions?
This was the mods error, which has since been corrected
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I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
Ok, time to let the cat out of the box on the switchy thingie.
There were actually three masons, not two, at the start: Asian, Infinis, and myself. The plan was to switch me out and switch someone else in and confirm a bunch of people, obv. Didn't go according to plan, Infinis was unfortunately the target of my switch, and we were back exactly where we started.
Anyway, at least we were able to confirm Anak with the whole mess.
I am inclined to agree with the suspicion on clayton, but TBH it's a null issue. Buranri is the lynch, clayton can be dealt with tomorrow.
Being that we have an obvlynch, I really see no reason to do a fullclaim today. Tomorrow, almost definitely though.
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I am inclined to agree with the suspicion on clayton, but TBH it's a null issue. Buranri is the lynch, clayton can be dealt with tomorrow.
Being that we have an obvlynch, I really see no reason to do a fullclaim today. Tomorrow, almost definitely though.
I /barn this 100%. No reason to give the scum a better potential target tonight when we know who we are going to lynch anyway. Might as well wait until tomorrow, when we will have an even more narrowed down field.
Ok, time to let the cat out of the box on the switchy thingie.
There were actually three masons, not two, at the start: Asian, Infinis, and myself. The plan was to switch me out and switch someone else in and confirm a bunch of people, obv. Didn't go according to plan, Infinis was unfortunately the target of my switch, and we were back exactly where we started.
Anyway, at least we were able to confirm Anak with the whole mess.
I am inclined to agree with the suspicion on clayton, but TBH it's a null issue. Buranri is the lynch, clayton can be dealt with tomorrow.
Being that we have an obvlynch, I really see no reason to do a fullclaim today. Tomorrow, almost definitely though.
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I really don't think you guys are making the right choice, considering we've had 3 kill nights both times I believe another one combined with a mislynch will put us at either LyLo, or very close. I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to confirm my ability, so believe it if you want, or not. I've done all I can.
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I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
I really don't think you guys are making the right choice, considering we've had 3 kill nights both times I believe another one combined with a mislynch will put us at either LyLo, or very close. I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to confirm my ability, so believe it if you want, or not. I've done all I can.
Well, fear not! See, assuming TACKY isn't lying, tonight is just a 2-kill night. So you can die in peace.
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I want to talk about how we should make use of Anak's ability tonight before we hammer, so give me a little while and we'll talk about it.
I think we should discuss something, anything, for now - I don't like ending the day without even one page of discussion. So I await your discussion starter!
Ok, time to let the cat out of the box on the switchy thingie.
There were actually three masons, not two, at the start: Asian, Infinis, and myself. The plan was to switch me out and switch someone else in and confirm a bunch of people, obv. Didn't go according to plan, Infinis was unfortunately the target of my switch, and we were back exactly where we started.
Anyway, at least we were able to confirm Anak with the whole mess.
I am inclined to agree with the suspicion on clayton, but TBH it's a null issue. Buranri is the lynch, clayton can be dealt with tomorrow.
Being that we have an obvlynch, I really see no reason to do a fullclaim today. Tomorrow, almost definitely though.
I agree that it may seem a day early, but I wanted to know who the masons were. with that I'm going to have to say that I'm suspicious of AE and R_O. I'll have to do a re-read to see if I can find any good tells, right now it's mostly a gut feeling
I think we should discuss something, anything, for now - I don't like ending the day without even one page of discussion. So I await your discussion starter!
here's a discussion started I believe that AK is the serial killer. my mod gaming technique tells me that a redirector ability would be useful for serial killer. the serial killer is worrying more than what's left of the scum. If we are getting close to a LoL then the serial killer hitting more town targets is going to cause us to lose. I will also do a re-read to determine more on this.
I want to talk about how we should make use of Anak's ability tonight before we hammer, so give me a little while and we'll talk about it.
Well, I have an idea. Throw a neutral onto a scum. Pick a scummy player and switch their abilities with someone vanilla, hopefully taking away whatever power said scum may have.
It is switching powers right? Not roles?
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Well, I have an idea. Throw a neutral onto a scum. Pick a scummy player and switch their abilities with someone vanilla, hopefully taking away whatever power said scum may have.
It is switching powers right? Not roles?
No. It switches roles. And only of players of the same alignment. So your plan would not work because mafia and neutral are not of the same alignment. TACKY, are you a perma-vig? Or are you out of shots? If you are out, I would like to switch you. Whoever becomes the vig is confirmed town, but they won't get to use any shots that the town might not like.
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IMHO the target for Anak's ability doesn't matter incredibly. We're going to have to go through a fullclaim tomorrow anyway, which means the targets are going to have to claim, which means they're tied together and we get to pick apart the mess and see who's confirmed and who's simply related to each other.
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here's a discussion started I believe that AK is the serial killer. my mod gaming technique tells me that a redirector ability would be useful for serial killer. the serial killer is worrying more than what's left of the scum. If we are getting close to a LoL then the serial killer hitting more town targets is going to cause us to lose. I will also do a re-read to determine more on this.
A little bit surprising that AKid didn't even bat an eye at just being called the SK. He's very much an outlier on my radar, though. I think his behavior regarding the joboman blowup yesterday makes him 98% likely to be town.
No. It switches roles. And only of players of the same alignment. So your plan would not work because mafia and neutral are not of the same alignment. TACKY, are you a perma-vig? Or are you out of shots? If you are out, I would like to switch you. Whoever becomes the vig is confirmed town, but they won't get to use any shots that the town might not like.
Shouldn't there be a more obvious problem with TACKY's plan, which is that you don't get to pick who the second target of the swap is?
IMHO the target for Anak's ability doesn't matter incredibly. We're going to have to go through a fullclaim tomorrow anyway, which means the targets are going to have to claim, which means they're tied together and we get to pick apart the mess and see who's confirmed and who's simply related to each other.
That'd be right except for one thing: there's one player out there who can't be tied to anyone by Anak's ability, and that's the SK.
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Listen: we're approaching critical mass in this game. There are a lot of confirmed townies, a lot of dead townies, and only a few players to draw 2-3 scum and an SK from. We need every night action to count.
If Anak targets TACKY to swap, there's definitely the potential for confirming another townie that way. But I have to remind you that we have several confirmed players - two masons, myself, almost certainly AKid - and that our odds really aren't that great. We already did one swap that resulted in a net balance of +0 confirmed players. We can't risk another one.
I want us to use Anak's ability on a non-confirmed player. clayton seems to be a major pick for many people and I agree with that. So here's what we do - we target him. If he swaps with one of our townies, that's perfect. We've got someone else cleared. If he swaps with another unconfirmed player, then we've got the situation jerub alluded to above where we can find the alignment of both players by lynching one of them. Potential to clear someone; potential for a double scum kill. And, of course, if the swap fails, then we've found our SK.
In the meantime, I'll be using my track on one of AE, r_0, Alpha or Id_Ego. We'll rapidly narrow down the PoE and this game will be as good as won.
I want to see what did what before we proceed today.
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I'd like to hear if Zind has anything relevant from the night.
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No. I targeted Joboman directly, according to AI's last posted plan.
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In that case I think a vote: Buranri is in order.
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Anyway, I'll Vote Buranri, seems like the most logical for the day. Also threshold sucks.
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Notice how my ability, the shuriken, occurs after my victims. Lets assume this holds for every card and ability.
Your inconsistancy early on about your ability makes me question your "not in graveyard" defense. I take it with many grains of salt.
I also don't believe you would be RBed. RBing a town ability that could actually benefit the scum isn't as good as RBing a doc/cop or something. Scum letting you toss someone would possibly speed up the game tremendously, which it has if that's the case. However, I don't think it is, since you keep insisting that you are the constant target of RBing.
I think you are lying. You threw either iPot or Asian into jobo, knowing full well the consequences of dead townies. I think Bark of the Dark Ruler is prob your effect and the Dark World Lightening is the NK. It could be flip-floped, but I don't think the flavor fits quite as well.
I'm inclined to believe you are scum falseclaiming some Rock ability and constant RBing.
FOS Buranri because I feel a vote might push this day way too fast without comments from anyone
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First, Bunari is lying scum. That's settled. Let's try not to rush this day though!
I've looked at the cards in the graveyard, here's what I gleaned:
1. iPot was killed by the mafia. Dark World Lightning corresponds to Reign-Beaux, Ruler of Dark World. Therefore, all (or at least most) of the mafia are Dark World monsters.
2. joboman was killed by TACKY, clearly. But note that there's nothing showing for AK's ability. So far, every ability but one (Zindabad's) is a card. Zindabad explains this by saying he is a spirit monster. How do you, AK, explain this?
3. AI was killed by the SK. Since we take Fuhma Shurikens to be TACKY, and Dark World Lightnings to be scum, it follows that Bark of Dark Ruler is the SK kill. This pretty much confirms the SK, As it rules out any and all one-shot kills.
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Lynching Buranri has been something I've pushed for since day 1, so yes we do it. but we should look at other things. So far the amount of cards that have been put into the graveyard that fit plenty of stories but several having weird setups. At this point with the amount of townies being killed I think the remainder of the players that haven't given their roles up might do so now. A claim spreading the masons into the picture would might single out the targets aside from buranri. If I was to guess there is 2 scum left (one being buranri) and a Sk. i DON'T usually agree to full claims but personally i'm a little nervous at the simple point that between a vig and a sk we haven't seen 1 scum killed.
WTF? How can you guess there are two scum left? Have you seen the thread title lately?
We started the game with what, 22 players? Ok, so now we are down to 12, with only 1 scum lynched. In a game of 22 players, you could easily take a third, 7, as scum. We'll say 6 to be safe. With one scum down, that leaves 5 scum left. if we didn't lynch that scum and still had what NK's we had, it'd be GG right now with a scum win (6 scum and 6 town).
Point is, there is NO WAY there are only 2 scum left. IGMEOY clayton!
Not necessarily as I will address below.
AK's card has now been edited into the graveyard. I'm not ruling him out - redirection is a very scum ability - but I don't think he's lying.
I don't see how it absolutely "rules out" the possibility of a one-shot kill, but I do agree that Bark is very likely the SK. Going back over who AI was suspicious of would be productive, in my opinion.
We need to discuss this roleblock issue. gleng claimed to be Terrorking Archfiend before he died and to have used Archfiend's Roar on Buranri, which Buranri confirmed. Obviously, gleng was not Terrorking, but Buranri is still claiming to have been blocked by Archfiend's Roar, and it's in the graveyard again.
I think it's clear that the source of that roleblock is not town-aligned and I wonder what implications that has for Buranri's alignment. I could understand blocking Buranri on N1 as "The Plan" could have proved to be extremely harmful to scum. I don't understand why he would've been blocked last night when Anak was not active (meaning another multiple-confirmation "plan" could not have taken place) and also while I was active. I thought maybe my lack of result from CM was due to being blocked, but it wasn't.
This, to me, suggests that Buranri is scum who has blatantly made up everything, and that his scumbuddies are blocking him to give him an excuse for why his "ability" never provides any results and why his "card" never appears in the graveyard. I will stop at nothing to see him lynched today.
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Pretty much /barn all of this, as it was pretty much my line of thinking, and hits the nail on the head of all the major points.
And I think I found where to start tomorrow. Fishing for claims? So the mafia know who to best kill? Riiight.
as for role seeking let's look at the set up, this who is still alive. If we can pin who is town down it will leave us with just a small number of players that we could easily pick apart.
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I think we need to examine clayton. If he's scum, getting everybody to claim is a very good idea, assuming that we're really that close to losing.
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There were actually three masons, not two, at the start: Asian, Infinis, and myself. The plan was to switch me out and switch someone else in and confirm a bunch of people, obv. Didn't go according to plan, Infinis was unfortunately the target of my switch, and we were back exactly where we started.
Anyway, at least we were able to confirm Anak with the whole mess.
I am inclined to agree with the suspicion on clayton, but TBH it's a null issue. Buranri is the lynch, clayton can be dealt with tomorrow.
Being that we have an obvlynch, I really see no reason to do a fullclaim today. Tomorrow, almost definitely though.
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I /barn this 100%. No reason to give the scum a better potential target tonight when we know who we are going to lynch anyway. Might as well wait until tomorrow, when we will have an even more narrowed down field.
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I think we should discuss something, anything, for now - I don't like ending the day without even one page of discussion. So I await your discussion starter!
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I agree that it may seem a day early, but I wanted to know who the masons were. with that I'm going to have to say that I'm suspicious of AE and R_O. I'll have to do a re-read to see if I can find any good tells, right now it's mostly a gut feeling
here's a discussion started I believe that AK is the serial killer. my mod gaming technique tells me that a redirector ability would be useful for serial killer. the serial killer is worrying more than what's left of the scum. If we are getting close to a LoL then the serial killer hitting more town targets is going to cause us to lose. I will also do a re-read to determine more on this.
Well, I have an idea. Throw a neutral onto a scum. Pick a scummy player and switch their abilities with someone vanilla, hopefully taking away whatever power said scum may have.
It is switching powers right? Not roles?
No. It switches roles. And only of players of the same alignment. So your plan would not work because mafia and neutral are not of the same alignment. TACKY, are you a perma-vig? Or are you out of shots? If you are out, I would like to switch you. Whoever becomes the vig is confirmed town, but they won't get to use any shots that the town might not like.
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A little bit surprising that AKid didn't even bat an eye at just being called the SK. He's very much an outlier on my radar, though. I think his behavior regarding the joboman blowup yesterday makes him 98% likely to be town.
Shouldn't there be a more obvious problem with TACKY's plan, which is that you don't get to pick who the second target of the swap is?
That'd be right except for one thing: there's one player out there who can't be tied to anyone by Anak's ability, and that's the SK.
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Listen: we're approaching critical mass in this game. There are a lot of confirmed townies, a lot of dead townies, and only a few players to draw 2-3 scum and an SK from. We need every night action to count.
If Anak targets TACKY to swap, there's definitely the potential for confirming another townie that way. But I have to remind you that we have several confirmed players - two masons, myself, almost certainly AKid - and that our odds really aren't that great. We already did one swap that resulted in a net balance of +0 confirmed players. We can't risk another one.
I want us to use Anak's ability on a non-confirmed player. clayton seems to be a major pick for many people and I agree with that. So here's what we do - we target him. If he swaps with one of our townies, that's perfect. We've got someone else cleared. If he swaps with another unconfirmed player, then we've got the situation jerub alluded to above where we can find the alignment of both players by lynching one of them. Potential to clear someone; potential for a double scum kill. And, of course, if the swap fails, then we've found our SK.
In the meantime, I'll be using my track on one of AE, r_0, Alpha or Id_Ego. We'll rapidly narrow down the PoE and this game will be as good as won.
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