We live in a country were ~50% of the populace believe public schooling is a socialist conspiracy and that being called Einstein is an insult. We could try and fix it, but unfortunately the other 50% don't believe in euthanasia.
I got nothing in regards of flavor in the PM. Just simple and to the point. I guess I should reread to catch up, I missed the part of Ace and MMoD revealing they targetted or forgot.
What did I miss? How do they know that?
How?
A_H claimed that he's a watcher (or a role) that saw Ace and I target you, and since E_P has been confirmed as town, then one of us is likely scum, and the other one the doctor.
A_H claimed that he's a watcher (or a role) that saw Ace and I target you, and since E_P has been confirmed as town, then one of us is likely scum, and the other one the doctor.
EP is town. I have role information that agrees with it. This is why I want a mass name claim. But now I think it is to late for me to trap the person I am looking for.
+ EP might be who I am looking for and be running a great scum gambit.
Since it looks like EP is going to get lynched, I am just going to say it. I have an investigation ability and I investigated EP last night and he came up as town. Therefore I have no reason to believe EP is lying about his ability.
And before you ask no I am not the cop. I have $1,000,000.00 dollars which I can use to buy services that grant me certain abilities. Last night I spent $500,000.00 on a private investigator to investigate EP.
UNVOTE. So tell me why we want Emo lynched with these confirmations on him?
We live in a country were ~50% of the populace believe public schooling is a socialist conspiracy and that being called Einstein is an insult. We could try and fix it, but unfortunately the other 50% don't believe in euthanasia.
I know that there was some one hunting me. And I figured it would be Mark or Yoko. And now I believe it to be Ace.
And for us to have three doctors in the same game? Come on now.
Again, don't game the mod. Keep in mind that I become vanilla if I get lucky too.
I have no idea why I'm a CIA operative. It doesn't mention Lennon in my role PM, and A_K may have just named me MDC to mess with a claim, should I have to.
Explain to me exactly how this is fishing when Ace has claimed his role+target.
I feel he did his part in claiming and thus, would like you to talk as opposed to asking questions. In other words, why doesn't his claim fit the flavor?
If you guys really need my claim, I'll claim, but I think it's obvious Ace is scum, so I'd rather not.
So how does asking him more questions better prove this when you could state how his role just doesn't fit the flavor and move on? However, you certainly are correct in your observations, because if he kills who he would have killed, then something is certainly not adding up.
I feel he did his part in claiming and thus, would like you to talk as opposed to asking questions. In other words, why doesn't his claim fit the flavor?
I don't see how MMoD can get off scot-free without a claim. I co-operated, surely he can too.
As I have said, I'm fairly sure A_K made my name bonkers just to mess with the players. I recall his last game screwing loran over with a name claim, and him saying at a later point that anyone trying to game him this time is screwed.
I realise having this many doctors in game is silly, but the setup is still a mystery, and as such, may be balanced with other mechanics to support this overpowered town.
Yes I investigated E_P and he turned up town. Why do you ask?
Vote Guardman
Because I just re-read my role PM.
Apparently, for some stupid reason, when I roleblock someone, I'm not the only one that mills that night. MY TARGET DOES AS WELL. Drugs being left at their place or something.
Who would have thought that a single line would be so important?
Wait how is making some one appear scum a townie ability? I mean.... If you miller EP and Guardman got a town response wouldn't that make EP scum? Because a scum that is a miller =town? I don't understand Wuffles. And if Guardman lied wouldn't that indicate that we got two scum? And wouldn't it be easy to theorize that we should kill the mod first then? So shouldn't we be voting EP?
Wait how is making some one appear scum a townie ability? I mean.... If you miller EP and Guardman got a town response wouldn't that make EP scum? Because a scum that is a miller =town? I don't understand Wuffles. And if Guardman lied wouldn't that indicate that we got two scum? And wouldn't it be easy to theorize that we should kill the mod first then? So shouldn't we be voting EP?
Right. Wuffles please elaborate. Wouldn't Emo be scum?
alright, let me make sure i have everything straight:
a) we have three millers; Z, who is a death miller, Wuffles, a miller who becomes a miller whenever he uses his roleblocking ability, and makes the roleblocked turn up a miller. Then we have AH, who is supposedly a straight-up miller. b) AE is a mason-maker who dies if he masons with a scum, but he masoned with Z, which confirmed Z. c) EP is actually the real-life version of AKid, who has an absolutely ****** role, if he's telling the truth. d) DV is John Lennon, Ace is Mark David Chapman, and we're all looking for Yoko Ono. e) MMOD and Ace are both docs, and so was SK. f) Gaurdman claimed to have investigated EP, who came up town, which is impossible because Wuffles targeted EP, which would have made EP a miller last night, which makes Gaurdman a liar, or at the very least WRONG. g) AH is also a watcher who saw Ace and MMOD target AE.
What that your scum? I see no comment toward DV and myself. Also a quick vote on Guard. You don't want to wait for his response? Sounds like you want the lynch to go quick so your kept in the background.
There's really only two things it proves: either Guardman or Wuffles is scum. Wuffles is most likely the one that's not lying.
It's called opportunity. Guardman chose to claim an investigative role to confirm himself and got caught. Ace is probably scum as well, since it's between him and MMoD. On top of it all, Guardman put himself in a position to drag a princess down through WIFOM.
Well one of them has to be, the other one could I guess. If E_P is scum, I can't really imagine a reason Ace would target A_E (short of having an extra one-shot I guess). If Ace is scum, I guess E_P could still be scum.
EP is also scum, I imagine. I don't think that anyone, myself included, would be able to invalidate an innocent investigation in such an odd fashion.
D_V, you're missing the point as usual. I just netted us one, probably two scums. Yes, it's a very, very odd ability to have on a townie. However, it fits the flavor of a drug dealer, I suppose.
The important thing is, I had absolutely zero reason to come out with it now if I was scum, surely. Just take the surefire scum lynch and blather later, okay?
I find it weird that Wuffles says that any investigation on a person comes up as scum when he roleblocks them. I also find it weird how fast peaple are to jump on my wagon from Wuffles statement before I even get a chance to respond.
I can see a couple of possibilities for why my result came up town.
1. The Private Investigator I hired is insane so any investigation comes up the opposite of what it should be. (Which given the flavor of the game already I think that this is a decent possibility)
2. Wuffles is lying scum and is trying to do exactly what Zas is saying deflect from Ace and then ride the two days of night to cause the maximum amount of damage.
3. ApoK forgot that you roleblocking someone makes them look scum and instead gave me the normal result. (Unlikely, but with the way the game has been modded so far I wouldn't put it past him)
I think 1 is most likely, followed closely by 2 considering how Wuffles played day 1. 3 is a distant third, but is still possible.
I find it weird that Wuffles says that any investigation on a person comes up as scum when he roleblocks them. I also find it weird how fast peaple are to jump on my wagon from Wuffles statement before I even get a chance to respond.
I can see a couple of possibilities for why my result came up town.
1. The Private Investigator I hired is insane so any investigation comes up the opposite of what it should be. (Which given the flavor of the game already I think that this is a decent possibility) 2. Wuffles is lying scum and is trying to do exactly what Zas is saying deflect from Ace and then ride the two days of night to cause the maximum amount of damage. 3. ApoK forgot that you roleblocking someone makes them look scum and instead gave me the normal result. (Unlikely, but with the way the game has been modded so far I wouldn't put it past him)
I think 1 is most likely, followed closely by 2 considering how Wuffles played day 1. 3 is a distant third, but is still possible.
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Considering that our #1 scum candidate going into today, E_P, was saved *ONLY* by a suspiciously timely investigation result by you, and that people were praising me for my towniness day 1 - exactly how ARE you considering my day 1 play? - I think that there is very little doubt left in the mind of the town about your scumminess.
It strikes me that if you really thought I was scum false-claiming a ridiculously scummy-seeming ability which just happened to screw you over last night, that you'd be a tad more outraged about the whole thing.
Though I must admit I also saw 3 as a possibility, but when I clarified with AK, he confirmed both my role, what it meant, and that my roleblock was defintely successful last night - well, I was reassured.
So yeah, I suppose this brings us back to "DIE, SCUM." Your response did absolutely nothing for me. You bought up a few weak possibilities, but the fact is, your investigation result was simply too convenient. As someone who has recently been in games where you were scum, I can confirm that this is exactly the sort of claim you'd fabricate when caught out in an outright lie.
We live in a country were ~50% of the populace believe public schooling is a socialist conspiracy and that being called Einstein is an insult. We could try and fix it, but unfortunately the other 50% don't believe in euthanasia.
I find it weird that Wuffles says that any investigation on a person comes up as scum when he roleblocks them. I also find it weird how fast peaple are to jump on my wagon from Wuffles statement before I even get a chance to respond.
I can see a couple of possibilities for why my result came up town.
1. The Private Investigator I hired is insane so any investigation comes up the opposite of what it should be. (Which given the flavor of the game already I think that this is a decent possibility) 2. Wuffles is lying scum and is trying to do exactly what Zas is saying deflect from Ace and then ride the two days of night to cause the maximum amount of damage. 3. ApoK forgot that you roleblocking someone makes them look scum and instead gave me the normal result. (Unlikely, but with the way the game has been modded so far I wouldn't put it past him)
I think 1 is most likely, followed closely by 2 considering how Wuffles played day 1. 3 is a distant third, but is still possible.
Mod Vote Count Please!
Judging from wuffle's play day one, so you should probably order it 1,3,2. Just sayin'.
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A_H claimed that he's a watcher (or a role) that saw Ace and I target you, and since E_P has been confirmed as town, then one of us is likely scum, and the other one the doctor.
Thanks I missed that.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
UNVOTE. So tell me why we want Emo lynched with these confirmations on him?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Unvote Vote Ace
I know that there was some one hunting me. And I figured it would be Mark or Yoko. And now I believe it to be Ace.
And for us to have three doctors in the same game? Come on now.
Just sayin'.
You mean a neutral?
...wait, 3 doctors, D_V?
MMOD, "Ace", and who?
I don't want to be wrong about who I target tonight.
At some point, Zasz, you should probably also tell me how you knew I RB'D E_P before either of us mentioned it in-thread.
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Why would a mafia chase you? They need everyone dead anyways..?
Gaming the mod crits you for 1,000 damage.
You faint.
Again, don't game the mod. Keep in mind that I become vanilla if I get lucky too.
I have no idea why I'm a CIA operative. It doesn't mention Lennon in my role PM, and A_K may have just named me MDC to mess with a claim, should I have to.
I will begin reading later tonight. UNVOTE, if minninineko had any votes open.
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Why don't you claim before trying to fish more info out of Ace? At this point, all we have to look at is who he is, what about yourself?
Explain to me exactly how this is fishing when Ace has claimed his role+target.
If you guys really need my claim, I'll claim, but I think it's obvious Ace is scum, so I'd rather not.
I feel he did his part in claiming and thus, would like you to talk as opposed to asking questions. In other words, why doesn't his claim fit the flavor?
So how does asking him more questions better prove this when you could state how his role just doesn't fit the flavor and move on? However, you certainly are correct in your observations, because if he kills who he would have killed, then something is certainly not adding up.
He is Mark Chapman and he is a CIA agent?
As I have said, I'm fairly sure A_K made my name bonkers just to mess with the players. I recall his last game screwing loran over with a name claim, and him saying at a later point that anyone trying to game him this time is screwed.
I realise having this many doctors in game is silly, but the setup is still a mystery, and as such, may be balanced with other mechanics to support this overpowered town.
mod: we really could use a votecount
I think Ace is likely scum, since MMoD has played the most pro-town play in the game. I'm comfortable with his lynch.
JUST ONE MINUTE.
JUST ONE.
Unvote.
Guardman, did you said that you investigated E_P and he turned up town, right?
Answer this question.
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Yes I investigated E_P and he turned up town. Why do you ask?
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Because I just re-read my role PM.
Apparently, for some stupid reason, when I roleblock someone, I'm not the only one that mills that night. MY TARGET DOES AS WELL. Drugs being left at their place or something.
Who would have thought that a single line would be so important?
You sir, are boned.
good catch, Wuffles
Right. Wuffles please elaborate. Wouldn't Emo be scum?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
a) we have three millers; Z, who is a death miller, Wuffles, a miller who becomes a miller whenever he uses his roleblocking ability, and makes the roleblocked turn up a miller. Then we have AH, who is supposedly a straight-up miller.
b) AE is a mason-maker who dies if he masons with a scum, but he masoned with Z, which confirmed Z.
c) EP is actually the real-life version of AKid, who has an absolutely ****** role, if he's telling the truth.
d) DV is John Lennon, Ace is Mark David Chapman, and we're all looking for Yoko Ono.
e) MMOD and Ace are both docs, and so was SK.
f) Gaurdman claimed to have investigated EP, who came up town, which is impossible because Wuffles targeted EP, which would have made EP a miller last night, which makes Gaurdman a liar, or at the very least WRONG.
g) AH is also a watcher who saw Ace and MMOD target AE.
DO I HAVE THIS ALL CORRECT?
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What that your scum? I see no comment toward DV and myself. Also a quick vote on Guard. You don't want to wait for his response? Sounds like you want the lynch to go quick so your kept in the background.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
It's called opportunity. Guardman chose to claim an investigative role to confirm himself and got caught. Ace is probably scum as well, since it's between him and MMoD. On top of it all, Guardman put himself in a position to drag a princess down through WIFOM.
So Guardman is scum, and E_P or Ace is scum?
Sounds like it. I just want to hear how this plays out.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Why not all three?
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With the information from Guardman's lynch, we'll either have a scum lyched, or will have another scum caught tomorrow.
D_V, you're missing the point as usual. I just netted us one, probably two scums. Yes, it's a very, very odd ability to have on a townie. However, it fits the flavor of a drug dealer, I suppose.
The important thing is, I had absolutely zero reason to come out with it now if I was scum, surely. Just take the surefire scum lynch and blather later, okay?
I can see a couple of possibilities for why my result came up town.
1. The Private Investigator I hired is insane so any investigation comes up the opposite of what it should be. (Which given the flavor of the game already I think that this is a decent possibility)
2. Wuffles is lying scum and is trying to do exactly what Zas is saying deflect from Ace and then ride the two days of night to cause the maximum amount of damage.
3. ApoK forgot that you roleblocking someone makes them look scum and instead gave me the normal result. (Unlikely, but with the way the game has been modded so far I wouldn't put it past him)
I think 1 is most likely, followed closely by 2 considering how Wuffles played day 1. 3 is a distant third, but is still possible.
Mod Vote Count Please!
It strikes me that if you really thought I was scum false-claiming a ridiculously scummy-seeming ability which just happened to screw you over last night, that you'd be a tad more outraged about the whole thing.
Though I must admit I also saw 3 as a possibility, but when I clarified with AK, he confirmed both my role, what it meant, and that my roleblock was defintely successful last night - well, I was reassured.
So yeah, I suppose this brings us back to "DIE, SCUM." Your response did absolutely nothing for me. You bought up a few weak possibilities, but the fact is, your investigation result was simply too convenient. As someone who has recently been in games where you were scum, I can confirm that this is exactly the sort of claim you'd fabricate when caught out in an outright lie.
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Judging from wuffle's play day one, so you should probably order it 1,3,2. Just sayin'.
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"WELL THEN WHO THE **** WAS THAT?"
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"****. That's what I get for shutting my ****in' mouth for one ****in' second."
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I'll wait for the vote count to vote in case we want more discussion today.
(2) Ace: Guardman, Z, D_V
(4) Guardman: Wuffles, EP, Bilbroxain, Ace, AH
GM is at L-2
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Ace(3):Guardman, Zasz, DV
Guardman(5): Wuffles, EP, Ace, AH, Bilbro
With 11 alive, it is 6 to lynch.
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