I was, more or less. Now I'm pretty much an ordinary townie, except I can talk to one other person at night, and I have two win conditions: I win if A. All the scum are dead, or B. If me and my "buddy" are among the last 4 people alive.
I still don't understand the Chrome Moxen kill. Like I said, he acted the exact same way, down to being the 3rd person on a wagon in the other game, and he turned out to be the Healer. Musashi, well, I'll leave that one up to you, whether you want to lurker-kill.
I zapped musashi based on titus' claim that he was scum. Randomly zapping lurkers wouldn't such a great idea.
As for chrome moxen, his explanation was pretty unimpressive, and next to musashi, who had been fingered by titus, he seemed the best available target we had. All townies are important to us, but if he was a townie, he was a relatively low-value one considering how little thought he seemed to put into his voting.
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And you have to kill 2 people at once? Can't save kill one now, save one for a rainy day?
I could save one for later, but once my killing ability becomes revealed, I only have a 30% chance of hitting my target. I could try killing people at night as well, but due to the dark I'd only have a 50% chance of hitting.
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ok then.
azrael: dementia blader?
I would have preferred to keep his identity secret for the moment, but yes. That's correct.
they were family - that's why i assumed one of them might be scum. it seems to have been an inside, family job - but the two you killed wern't the one i should've suspected most - the don's son.
i can't directly say who he is, but here's a hint: he's 13 and jewish.
all votings based on who is scum and who isn't are assumptions.
So, you get the names of the roles, and you are making educated guesses about who is scum based on the names? That's...pretty risky if you ask me.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
So, you get the names of the roles, and you are making educated guesses about who is scum based on the names? That's...pretty risky if you ask me.
Yeah. I thought he was some sort of cop at the time I selected my kills. If I had known he wasn't, I would have held my fire.
At any rate, I'll go ahead with my role-claim since it's already out in the open. I am the Entertainer. My abilities are as explained earlier. I can only talk to Dementia Blader at night.
So, you get the names of the roles, and you are making educated guesses about who is scum based on the names? That's...pretty risky if you ask me.
yes
and yes, it was a huuuge play error on my part. i'm assuming it'd either be a hitman or the don's son who would do such a thing. i've hinted as to whom both are, anyways.
yes! mass roleclaim - confirm/deny - lynch all liars.
Now that we have titus here to confirm/deny, a mass roleclaim of the title of each of our characters should definitely help the town out. We'll want to keep each person's abilities under cover, but identifying the hitman/son/daughter-in-law, and wife might be a good idea.
Here's what we have so far, I believe:
Dementia Blader- The Butler
Axelrod- The Chef
Billking- The Lawyer
Azrael- The Entertainer
Azrael, I'm confused as why you used your ability so early, you could have waited atleast until we lynched Musashi (if we did) and then we would have been able to know if titus was scum or not, right now, we are setting up a lot of trust on him, and so early too.
Anyways, I would say my role but if I did it would endanger me and in the long run, endanger alot of you.
and yes, it was a huuuge play error on my part. i'm assuming it'd either be a hitman or the don's son who would do such a thing. i've hinted as to whom both are, anyways.
Well, you can stop hinting, because I'm the hitman. I get a single nightkill that is has a 25% chance of not being caught or something.
Azrael, I'm confused as why you used your ability so early, you could have waited atleast until we lynched Musashi (if we did) and then we would have been able to know if titus was scum or not, right now, we are setting up a lot of trust on him, and so early too.
Anyways, I would say my role but if I did it would endanger me and in the long run, endanger alot of you.
Azrael, I'm confused as why you used your ability so early, you could have waited atleast until we lynched Musashi (if we did) and then we would have been able to know if titus was scum or not, right now, we are setting up a lot of trust on him, and so early too.
Essentially I just "lynched" musashi for us, saving us a day, so that if titus turned out to be making a false cop claim, we could remove him immediately without missing a lynch, or if he was telling the truth, that we could act appropriately on that knowledge while he was still around..
Unfortunately, Titus wasn't actually making a cop claim after all, so the hit on musashi is more or less a shot in the dark, and the chrome mox hit probably isn't much better.
I didn't need confirmation from you; I'm the Right Hand Man, the recently deceased Don's childhood friend, and I know all his old contacts. Every other night, I am allowed to carry out an inspection, identifying a player's name and faction. If it is the second time I carry out an inspection on a particular player, I get their role description as well.
In other words, I'M 'the cop', so to speak, although that's not my official title.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Hvir, I'm still confused as what the Don's sons importance is?
titus said something earlier about identifying all the family members. I chose to inspect 20Bux, last night, and it revealed that his role title was the Don's Son, and that he was a Loyalist.
Dementia Blader- The Butler
Axelrod- The Chef
Billking- The Lawyer
Azrael- The Entertainer
20bux- The Don's Son
Lt. Ripper- The Doctor
KCW- The Hitman
Hvir- The Cop/Right Hand Man
Yet to claim:
Musashi
Chrome Moxen
Titus
Safetydance
Frankly this might end up putting us back at square one again. Like I said earlier, everyone has got a role. Everyone probably has some kind of ability. Chances we can tell who's Traitor/Loyalist based just on role name = small.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Frankly this might end up putting us back at square one again. Like I said earlier, everyone has got a role. Everyone probably has some kind of ability. Chances we can tell who's Traitor/Loyalist based just on role name = small.
Yes, but if what titus claims is true, then we can tell who's lying.
I'm guessing that the son of the Don would be loyal, no? Unvote dead person, vote 20bux
No, being a Loyalist in this game is a GOOD thing. Read aurorasparrow's first post. What the inspection revealed was that 20Bux was for all intents and purposes a TOWNIE.
Azrael: My title isn't 'The Cop', it's just 'The Right Hand Man'. I only mentioned being a cop, because I have the cop's inspection ability.
titus said something earlier about identifying all the family members. I chose to inspect 20Bux, last night, and it revealed that his role title was the Don's Son, and that he was a Loyalist.
No, being a Loyalist in this game is a GOOD thing. Read aurorasparrow's first post. What the inspection revealed was that 20Bux was for all intents and purposes a TOWNIE.
Yes, but if what titus claims is true, then we can tell who's lying.
No we can't. Unless your role is "the traitor." Assuming everyone gives their real role name. No one has to lie.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
In most Mafia games, it is tradition for the 'Doctor' to protect the 'Cop' once he's revealed himself, because the inspection ability is one of the Town's most powerful tools. Have you played this game before?
titus said something earlier about identifying all the family members. I chose to inspect 20Bux, last night, and it revealed that his role title was the Don's Son, and that he was a Loyalist.
Of course, going back to something else I said earlier. There is probably a "Godfather" type in this game who is going to ping as a Loyalist. Not saying we should be voting for him at all. Just saying 20Bux isn't totally clear here. It make a certain amont of sense for the Don's son to be the "Godfather" type--you know, trying to take over the business....
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Of course, going back to something else I said earlier. There is probably a "Godfather" type in this game who is going to ping as a Loyalist. Not saying we should be voting for him at all. Just saying 20Bux isn't totally clear here. It make a certain amont of sense for the Don's son to be the "Godfather" type--you know, trying to take over the business....
I agree - I'm well aware of this possibility, so I would take my identification of 20Bux's FACTION with a grain of salt. He IS the Don's Son, though.
I agree - I'm well aware of this possibility, so I would take my identification of 20Bux's FACTION with a grain of salt. He IS the Don's Son, though.
Agreed. I have no idea who to vote for anymore. So I will also:
Unvote: Dead Person
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Right now, I am going to point my FOS at titus. While I don't doubt that he has a sort of mini-cop ability to see role names, wouldn't it make sense for a Mafia to get an ability like that? Also, what he is doing right now would be perfect for the mafia: creating chaos and confusion using the truth, possibly mixed with lies.
i eagerly await aurorasparrow's update. just in case anyone's wondering why i haven't posted since, i'm waiting for an id on the corpses first
addendum: i'm very suspicious of roleclaims. the traitor's temptation to lie is overwhelming, and believing them at face value isn't the best idea. azrael is the enteretainer tho. i think that much was obvious.
Spock is not portrayed correctly. If Vulcans are above petty emotions, what motivates him to join the most elite starship crew in the galaxy? I, on the other hand, have transcended the weakness of emotion and achieved a blissful lack of caring. Apathy is my strength, our strength, which prevents us from being all-to-human. In this spirit, may Meh be with you, always.
Right now, I am going to point my FOS at titus. While I don't doubt that he has a sort of mini-cop ability to see role names, wouldn't it make sense for a Mafia to get an ability like that? Also, what he is doing right now would be perfect for the mafia: creating chaos and confusion using the truth, possibly mixed with lies.
Um, no. titus' role is similar to that of Principal Skinner in the Simpsons Mafia over at mafiascum.net. He has a list of names, which means that he can correctly identify those who make up non-existent roleclaims (i.e. the Traitors). I'm almost certain he's a Townie.
Spock is not portrayed correctly. If Vulcans are above petty emotions, what motivates him to join the most elite starship crew in the galaxy? I, on the other hand, have transcended the weakness of emotion and achieved a blissful lack of caring. Apathy is my strength, our strength, which prevents us from being all-to-human. In this spirit, may Meh be with you, always.
vote KCW - he is who he says he is, but his ability seems a bit off, and he is acting very... scummy. i think it's fairly apparent as to what my faction is, and my ability has already been mentioned. this isn't a solid vote or anything, though
i eagerly await aurorasparrow's update. just in case anyone's wondering why i haven't posted since, i'm waiting for an id on the corpses first
addendum: i'm very suspicious of roleclaims. the traitor's temptation to lie is overwhelming, and believing them at face value isn't the best idea. azrael is the enteretainer tho. i think that much was obvious.
One wonders a little, however, why an "entertainer" has two vigilante kills. I mean, I'm a Chef. I serve dishes. Why does the entertainer kill people?
On the other hand, giving the Traitors two extra day kills in a 12 person game is ridiculously overpowered, so I'm inclined to believe.
billking: if that's your ability, why did you suspect Azrael? Finding out he's the entertainer is hardly incriminating.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
This game has become ridiculous. Yes, I am the Don's son. After my father was murdered, I vowed revenge on whoever killed him. I am (for now) a vanilla Townie, although I was told that that would change.
I am also probably at the top of the Mafia's hit list (after the cop, if he's telling the truth, which I believe he is), because I am a potentially dangerous (to them) Townie.
Also, I just want to point out the billking has edited at least 3 posts ITT. I don't quite recall if that's legal in this game (I've always taken for granted that it isn't, but the rules in this game are very strange), but even if it is, it may mean he has something to hide.
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I will wait for an ID on the people Azrael killed before voting.
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I was, more or less. Now I'm pretty much an ordinary townie, except I can talk to one other person at night, and I have two win conditions: I win if A. All the scum are dead, or B. If me and my "buddy" are among the last 4 people alive.
Apparently our mod thinks they are.
i'm would assume you're lying. nothing points to you having a partner + being able to kill, plus your vic condition is different.
ok then.
azrael: dementia blader?
I zapped musashi based on titus' claim that he was scum. Randomly zapping lurkers wouldn't such a great idea.
As for chrome moxen, his explanation was pretty unimpressive, and next to musashi, who had been fingered by titus, he seemed the best available target we had. All townies are important to us, but if he was a townie, he was a relatively low-value one considering how little thought he seemed to put into his voting.
I could save one for later, but once my killing ability becomes revealed, I only have a 30% chance of hitting my target. I could try killing people at night as well, but due to the dark I'd only have a 50% chance of hitting.
I would have preferred to keep his identity secret for the moment, but yes. That's correct.
Does it feel to anyone else that this game may not last more than two nights?
Would it be wise to roleclaim at this point, or just certain of us?
i can't directly say who he is, but here's a hint: he's 13 and jewish.
yes! mass roleclaim - confirm/deny - lynch all liars.
So, you get the names of the roles, and you are making educated guesses about who is scum based on the names? That's...pretty risky if you ask me.
Yeah. I thought he was some sort of cop at the time I selected my kills. If I had known he wasn't, I would have held my fire.
At any rate, I'll go ahead with my role-claim since it's already out in the open. I am the Entertainer. My abilities are as explained earlier. I can only talk to Dementia Blader at night.
For all I know, the butler did it. : /
I hope not, but I suppose it's possible.
yes
and yes, it was a huuuge play error on my part. i'm assuming it'd either be a hitman or the don's son who would do such a thing. i've hinted as to whom both are, anyways.
Now that we have titus here to confirm/deny, a mass roleclaim of the title of each of our characters should definitely help the town out. We'll want to keep each person's abilities under cover, but identifying the hitman/son/daughter-in-law, and wife might be a good idea.
Here's what we have so far, I believe:
Dementia Blader- The Butler
Axelrod- The Chef
Billking- The Lawyer
Azrael- The Entertainer
Anyways, I would say my role but if I did it would endanger me and in the long run, endanger alot of you.
Doctor, please do your job.
Why does the doc need to do anything?
Well, you can stop hinting, because I'm the hitman. I get a single nightkill that is has a 25% chance of not being caught or something.
is your ability that of a doctor?
@hvir: yes, that is the case.
Essentially I just "lynched" musashi for us, saving us a day, so that if titus turned out to be making a false cop claim, we could remove him immediately without missing a lynch, or if he was telling the truth, that we could act appropriately on that knowledge while he was still around..
Unfortunately, Titus wasn't actually making a cop claim after all, so the hit on musashi is more or less a shot in the dark, and the chrome mox hit probably isn't much better.
It means that you get to kill someone but have a 25% chance of us seeing you doing it.
I didn't need confirmation from you; I'm the Right Hand Man, the recently deceased Don's childhood friend, and I know all his old contacts. Every other night, I am allowed to carry out an inspection, identifying a player's name and faction. If it is the second time I carry out an inspection on a particular player, I get their role description as well.
In other words, I'M 'the cop', so to speak, although that's not my official title.
I'm guessing that the son of the Don would be loyal, no?
Unvote dead person, vote 20bux
titus said something earlier about identifying all the family members. I chose to inspect 20Bux, last night, and it revealed that his role title was the Don's Son, and that he was a Loyalist.
Dementia Blader- The Butler
Axelrod- The Chef
Billking- The Lawyer
Azrael- The Entertainer
20bux- The Don's Son
Lt. Ripper- The Doctor
KCW- The Hitman
Hvir- The Cop/Right Hand Man
Yet to claim:
Musashi
Chrome Moxen
Titus
Safetydance
Yes, but if what titus claims is true, then we can tell who's lying.
No, being a Loyalist in this game is a GOOD thing. Read aurorasparrow's first post. What the inspection revealed was that 20Bux was for all intents and purposes a TOWNIE.
Azrael: My title isn't 'The Cop', it's just 'The Right Hand Man'. I only mentioned being a cop, because I have the cop's inspection ability.
And what do you want the doc to do about that?
O shi. I'm retarded.
Unvote 20bux
i was assuming it'd be an inside, family job - a power hungry son.
doc = security?
kcw: confirmed.
In most Mafia games, it is tradition for the 'Doctor' to protect the 'Cop' once he's revealed himself, because the inspection ability is one of the Town's most powerful tools. Have you played this game before?
Well then I don't know, it atleast gets us somewhere.
Of course, going back to something else I said earlier. There is probably a "Godfather" type in this game who is going to ping as a Loyalist. Not saying we should be voting for him at all. Just saying 20Bux isn't totally clear here. It make a certain amont of sense for the Don's son to be the "Godfather" type--you know, trying to take over the business....
I agree - I'm well aware of this possibility, so I would take my identification of 20Bux's FACTION with a grain of salt. He IS the Don's Son, though.
Agreed. I have no idea who to vote for anymore. So I will also:
Unvote: Dead Person
addendum: i'm very suspicious of roleclaims. the traitor's temptation to lie is overwhelming, and believing them at face value isn't the best idea. azrael is the enteretainer tho. i think that much was obvious.
Spock is not portrayed correctly. If Vulcans are above petty emotions, what motivates him to join the most elite starship crew in the galaxy? I, on the other hand, have transcended the weakness of emotion and achieved a blissful lack of caring. Apathy is my strength, our strength, which prevents us from being all-to-human. In this spirit, may Meh be with you, always.
Um, no. titus' role is similar to that of Principal Skinner in the Simpsons Mafia over at mafiascum.net. He has a list of names, which means that he can correctly identify those who make up non-existent roleclaims (i.e. the Traitors). I'm almost certain he's a Townie.
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Spock is not portrayed correctly. If Vulcans are above petty emotions, what motivates him to join the most elite starship crew in the galaxy? I, on the other hand, have transcended the weakness of emotion and achieved a blissful lack of caring. Apathy is my strength, our strength, which prevents us from being all-to-human. In this spirit, may Meh be with you, always.
lt. ripper: CLAIM, DAMNIT
azrael's roleclaim list: *lips are sealed*
unvote whomever.
vote KCW - he is who he says he is, but his ability seems a bit off, and he is acting very... scummy. i think it's fairly apparent as to what my faction is, and my ability has already been mentioned. this isn't a solid vote or anything, though
On the other hand, giving the Traitors two extra day kills in a 12 person game is ridiculously overpowered, so I'm inclined to believe.
billking: if that's your ability, why did you suspect Azrael? Finding out he's the entertainer is hardly incriminating.
I am also probably at the top of the Mafia's hit list (after the cop, if he's telling the truth, which I believe he is), because I am a potentially dangerous (to them) Townie.
Also, I just want to point out the billking has edited at least 3 posts ITT. I don't quite recall if that's legal in this game (I've always taken for granted that it isn't, but the rules in this game are very strange), but even if it is, it may mean he has something to hide.
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I will wait for an ID on the people Azrael killed before voting.